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AznnBoyaZ

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Light weight Diabolos
« on: November 13, 2013, 01:48:08 am »
Hello all!
So, I'm yet again back with another question.
I've only played with Asian diabolos currently, and recently got a henrys circus.
Now, I love my Sundia suns, Glary Taibolos and my Circus.
My only issue with the circus and Suns, are the weight.

I'm looking for a light weight diabolo, similar to a taibolo. I say similar, as Taibolos don't seem to feel stable enough.
I was looking at the G4 with the Ultra solutions. and the Circus with the ultra solutions.
Those 2 seem to really stand out to me. I love the way Taibolos feel, they just seem a bit too.. Thin? The walls don't feel thick enough.
My only Gripe with getting either of the 2 diabolos with the Ultra solutions, is where to find them. I obviously would like a Full set of 3-4.
And they seem very hard to find! And rather expensive.

And I noticed Epic A-Dreams getting popular. I read through the reviews etc. My one question is, How do the walls of the Epics feel?
The Weight and other specs seem spot on.

Has anyone tried these babies? I've seen them used in a few performances and they seem super light and darned stable
http://www.renegadejuggling.com/c36/Taiwanese-Wide-Axel-Diabolo-p347.html

Last, Unrelated question. Where would I be able to find a larger roll of Taibolo white string? By far the best string I've had a pleasure of playing.

Every time I post, I feel like I'm whining over new diabolos haha!
I Should really post a video or something. Seriously.

-Wilson.

Tipper

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 03:01:25 pm »
Well.. I've had the pleasure of using the Juggling Dream Typhoons from Oddballs for some months now, and they are brilliant diabolos :)

http://www.oddballs.co.uk/juggle-dream-typhoon-diabolo-p-4012.html

They are 240 grams, super stable, and I am yet to be tired of playing with them for extended periods of time. Just allround nice and light diabolos :) you dont notice the weight when doing tricks, but the impact they have on your arms are tremendous.

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AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 08:25:25 pm »
Ohhh! Those look nice! What're they comparable to? They appear to be close to a Taibolo!

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Duncan

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 08:29:54 pm »
I've also used them for a bit and yes, they're close-ish to a Taibolo. Quite light and cheap.

AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 08:36:14 pm »
I've also used them for a bit and yes, they're close-ish to a Taibolo. Quite light and cheap.

That makes me feel excited!

Any other suggestions? Also! Either of you try the Taiwanese Diabolo I posted?

AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 10:15:32 pm »
http://www.oddballs.co.uk/juggle-dream-big-top-jumbo-diabolo-p-3199.html

How do these compare to the circus?
It sucks that Oddballs doesn't do profile shots! haha

Tipper

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2013, 09:06:18 am »
Hubs and axle are similar to taibolo, cups are like sundia suns and the weight is like nothing else!
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Tipper

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2013, 09:09:19 am »
How do these compare to the circus?

I dont quite know about the big top, since I havent tried it. But if you buy the typhoons you wont regret it :) I prefer cups that arent super rubbery, so the circus and big tops wouldnt be fitting for me.
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Graham Milligan

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2013, 12:45:10 pm »

My only issue with the circus and Suns, are the weight.

I'm looking for a light weight diabolo, similar to a taibolo. I say similar, as Taibolos don't seem to feel stable enough.



Dunno if i can help you pick which diabolos you need. but what i can tell you is that the more weight the diabolo has it is generally going to be more stable and spin for longer due to the fact that it carries more momentum which is why i prefer Finesse's.

I also have Epics which are far more stable than glary and pretty light aswell. dunno about Tiabolo V2's as i've never had a go on them but im sure they are pretty much the same feel.

Good Luck.
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AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2013, 08:25:58 pm »
I dont quite know about the big top, since I havent tried it. But if you buy the typhoons you wont regret it :) I prefer cups that arent super rubbery, so the circus and big tops wouldnt be fitting for me.

So, Typhoons are like pretty much super awesome?
Geez. Not I have to try one out.
Geez. So many options now geez.

Also, Now That I found another website.

My options are
Typhoons, Epics, Bigtops(Maybe), and upgraded Circus.
They all seem nice and cheap.
And yet very nice performing.

Epics and Typhoons, seem super nice. Sundia cup with Taibolo guts. and a super light weight. nice.
How's the stability compared to Sundias? That is my biggest question now :)

Circuses are super stable, just WAY heavy. If the metal was removed (Like the upgraded version is 50g lighter)

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2013, 09:03:41 pm »
The typhoons are surprisingly stable! Better than my sundia suns, finesse g3 or g4, and basically any other diabolo ive tried :)

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AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2013, 10:25:54 pm »
The typhoons are surprisingly stable! Better than my sundia suns, finesse g3 or g4, and basically any other diabolo ive tried :)

WOAH WOAH. Better?! Like. More stable?! WOW
I must get some. Geez

Duncan

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2013, 12:50:16 am »
I'll offer the other side of personal preferences - the typhoons are NOT better than my sundia suns.

One of these days I'll be free enough to finish writing my review of them.

AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2013, 12:37:00 pm »
I'll offer the other side of personal preferences - the typhoons are NOT better than my sundia suns.

One of these days I'll be free enough to finish writing my review of them.

Well now I'd like to see this comparison.
I love it when people have diverting views. I wonder what the outcome will be! Haha!

Mecyr

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2013, 07:52:01 pm »
As for me, I would recommend Sundia Shining Crystal with competition fixed axles. Their weight is 250 g, they look similar to the typhoons and are also really stable...

AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2013, 09:20:56 pm »
As for me, I would recommend Sundia Shining Crystal with competition fixed axles. Their weight is 250 g, they look similar to the typhoons and are also really stable...

I already have them. They feel too heavy for some reason. Maybe mine are 270s?

Mecyr

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2013, 09:11:14 am »
Maybe you have the standard fixed axle. The competition fixed axle is about 10 g lighter..

AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2013, 02:06:48 pm »
Maybe you have the standard fixed axle. The competition fixed axle is about 10 g lighter..
Hm. I didn't know that.

And I may have to look into finding 2 more Crystals, and the Axle if I dont end up getting something else mentioned.
I do like these diabolos though :)
Smoothest by far.


AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2013, 02:43:37 pm »
Thank you!
I may get 2 of those axles for my current 2!

And then order a new set, of whatever diabolo I pick later on! :)


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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2013, 04:40:12 pm »
Hi it seems you like suns - but my guess is you have the heavy cup version.

The Sun can be set up at low as 233g with the lightweight cups / plastic washers and the full black axle - or anywhere up to 300g with the various different components
www.Diabolomoves.co.uk/diabolos/ - shop for Sundia diabolos, Handsticks & String

AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2013, 04:52:41 pm »
Thank you Nev!
Its fine, my Suns are great at 1D. And I intend to keep em for that reason!
My final thoughts are now this.
Epics vs Typhoons.

I wonder what a comparison between these 2 and the Sun would be?

The only thing I didn't like about the Suns, are the wide metal axle. I prefer axles like a taibolo.
The Epics and the Typhoons seem to have that going for them! Which is why a Circus with a kit would have been one of my choices too. I may just get 1 upgrade kit for the circus I already have!

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Duncan

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2013, 05:13:56 pm »
Let me offer a small critique on the typhoon's axle.

First, it 'seems' like its akin to the taibolo's axle, but when you use it you realize there is a 'ridge' which means the axle isn't flush with the hubs.

That ridge causes my typhoons to go crooked almost all the time. Its like I have a wide axle, but I have a narrow axle right in the middle which means I lose that benefit.

edit: is this the first 'discussion' diabolo.ca has had about a diabolo in a long time?

AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2013, 05:23:50 pm »
Let me offer a small critique on the typhoon's axle.

First, it 'seems' like its akin to the taibolo's axle, but when you use it you realize there is a 'ridge' which means the axle isn't flush with the hubs.

That ridge causes my typhoons to go crooked almost all the time. Its like I have a wide axle, but I have a narrow axle right in the middle which means I lose that benefit.

edit: is this the first 'discussion' diabolo.ca has had about a diabolo in a long time?

Ahh, thats a deal breaker for me. The hub not being flush, thats a bit upsetting!
In which case. Epics are probably gonna be my pick!

Duncan, can you tell me a brief comparison from Epics to Sundia Suns?
And Taibolos?
Thank you all so much!

(And not sure! I haven't been around in a little. I just got really back into diabolo. And I'm quite happy about it!)

Duncan

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2013, 08:21:16 pm »
Let me clarify my statement 'crooked'. By going crooked, I mean I often have to correct every 10 seconds or so in a 2 or 3d shuffle. Its not an automatic thing, and its not like other diabolos don't do this as well. But for me, my typhoons were going crooked often enough that I spent most of my time being frustrated with them.

That said, they're very light, the spin about as long as my heavy suns (around 45-50 seconds after Chinese whip accelerations), and the cups are okay (mine had suicide edges, but I'd just avoid doing arm orbits to save my delicite skin.

Also, I can't compare the Epics to the Suns because I don't have a set of Epics yet (next on my wish list). I'm told they're similar kinds of cups, however.

AznnBoyaZ

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Re: Light weight Diabolos
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2013, 09:53:29 pm »
Well, I'm gonna take the plunge and I'll let you know then! :)

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