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Flo

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« on: June 11, 2006, 06:06:55 pm »
I've just found a german site with an articla about diabolo. There it's said that China wants to put 1000 diaboloists in the ending fest of the olympic games 2008.
Has anyone heard of this yet or do you have any other information about it?

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frank0072

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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2006, 06:32:26 pm »
It's probably usefull if you make a link to the article you refer to  :?

And if China want's to do that we are going to make sure that France puts their MFP on stage :p
some people think they are better because they can do something better

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Flo

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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2006, 06:35:37 pm »
Quote from: frank0072
It's probably usefull if you make a link to the article you refer to  :?

As I've said the article is in german so i think you won't understand a lot:
http://de.chinabroadcast.cn/273/2005/11/22/1@40893.htm
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2006, 07:35:05 pm »
Quote from: frank0072
And if China want's to do that we are going to make sure that France puts their MFP on stage :p


well and also he said ending fest, it would probably be for a celebration (i cant read german, ill take his word on it). it wouldnt be a competition.

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2006, 08:23:32 pm »
The article is quiet interesting to read.
http://babelfish.altavista.com can translate into understandable but crappy english. Seems that there is a lot of diaboloing going on in that corner of the world, and they are interested in spreading the joy of diabolo all around the world, i whish them good luck!

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2006, 08:36:46 pm »
I'll try to sum up, what this article is about:
2 presenters in a radio-show have a talk together. One of them has brought a diabolo from his last china-journey and tells the other about it: Many people in china use it. He also talks about the diabolo's history and says that the "Bejing diabolo club" wants to make the diabolo more popular. Therefore they are planning a diabolo performance for the opening or ending celebration af the olympic games in 2008.

So this will definately be no competition like Matt_ has already mentioned.
I was wondering what this act will look like. Perhaps it's a huge 1000 diabolist-sync-action like many chinese diabolists do in circus.

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Translation Article diabolo on the Olympic Games Beijing
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2006, 02:34:20 am »
F: Tell me , Xu Wei, what kind of thing did you bring here.

M: Well, i thought this would be "something" for our show here. it is very popular in China.

F: It makes some real noise!

M: YES, and depending on the size the noise is different. This is a diabolo,  a very traditional childrens toy. It has existed in china for a long time in . It existed before there were TV sets, Internt and Computergames around.


F: It has the form of a sandclock,  and it's made out of wood, and is this what you have there in your hand?


M: This is two sticks Sticke, connected with a string.Now i will put the diabolo on the string and make the diabolo spin. When it spins fast around its axel, i can throw it in the air and catch it afterwards

F: Hey, you are really good with this . But how is this noise created?

M: This is from the two whistles at the end of the  Diabolos. When the Diabolo rotates, the air is pressed though the whistles ans then the noise is happening.

M: you know once the diabolo was made of bamboo. nowadays diabolos are made from woodm plastic, gummi and even fiberglass. And as well the size of the diabolo varies. The biggest known diabolo is 1.2 Meter, and the smallest has the size of a quarter.


F: What? So small! does the diabolo even function like this?

M: Yes , of course! of course you have to use toothpicks opn a thin string to get it to rotate

F: Really  interesting. but you said the diabolo is a traditional toy. For how long has the the diabolo been in existence?

M: Yes, this is what i asked the President   Liu Zhenyu, the Vice-President  of the Diabolo club in Beijing just a while ago:

"From hearsay I know  that the diabolo is 2200 Jahre old
Even at the times of Spring and harvesttime the play with diabolo was very much in fashion among the chinese aristocrats.
But more and more the toy became popular among  ordinary people.  In Books of the Ming-Dynastie they show illustrations and manuals on  how to make and play diabolo.This is from 600 years ago. Later the diabolo was put on stage and found interest in foreign countries
Several times have artist won the first price at the french acrobatic festival.

F:But this means the diabolos is not a childrens toy anymore.

M: Right. for along time adult people used it for physical exercise. (german word: Körperertüchtigung)
And honestly even adults have  an interest for playing. And early in the morning  you can see people in the  Parks playing with diabolo.

F: so the diabolo is a prop for Exercice, too?

M: exactly! the director of the diabolo club in Beijing, Li Kuanjiang, has told me following about this:

" Playing diabolo helps to stregthen the body and the healing of sicknesses. It helps against tensions of the shoulders and the back. The whole body has to bebrought  into  a unity . all the major joints are being trained and the circulatory system ...
Diabolo helps to concentrate better and it even helps the vision and you can loose weight."

F: Oh, loosing weight as well! Maybe I should try this too.

M: You really don't have to loose weight. but diabolo playing is fun. That is why you should try it! Even old people play diabolo! I met  
Mrs. Wang Shufang getroffen. She told me, she has been playing diabolo for over three years.



"Since i am retired i have been playing diabolo. I like it a lot. it is good for shoulders, hips and legs. Every morning i go outto play diabolo, as i feel younger while doing it!"

F: It seems to be real fun. And it is not dull or boring, as i thought first.

M: Yes that why a student from a shanghai Prep school likes it a lot, too. Liu Wei says:

"I am 15 years old. Two years ago I learnt diabolo playing in parc in shanghai. since then i play it and i like it. In my leisure i play diabolo very often. ."

F: But tell me how difficult is it to play diabolo?

M: it is not difficult at all. You can imagine how difficult it is to put a sandclock body in rotation. It is difficult to master all the different ways of playing it.

F: You probably have people who are truly professional!

M:
Yes of course for example Liu Zhenyu, the vice president of the diabolo club. he has been playing diabolo for 6 years. This year he was with his delegation in London and demonstrated diabolo.The people there became  very curious about it!

F:
I can imagine. When there is so many people here in china fond of the diabolo, then there is probably people in foreign countries, too.

M: YES that is why the club has decided to spread the play with diabolo throughout the world. So said the Vice-President of the toycompany owned by the chinese people, Wang Zhenrong:


"WE WANT TO ORGANIZE FOR THE OPENING AND CLOSING CERMONY OF THE OLYMPIC GAMES A SPECTACLE WITH 1000 DIABOLO PLAYERS. IF OUR IDEAS BECOME REALITY, THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD GET TO KNOW CHINESE DIABOLO!DAS PLAY WITH DIABOLOS IS NOT ONLY A TOYS OR A SPORT. IN CONTRAST IT WILL SHOW ALSO THE ELEGANT APPEARANCE AND VITALITY OF THE CHINESE PEOLPE"

F: Oh well! THe idea of a diabolo spectacle at the olympic games is a real clever idea. Maybe i should start to practice. Maybe they let me participate.


M: I wish you success with this.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2006, 06:06:52 am »
Would they have people world wide? or keep it to asia or what

very interesting...
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2006, 01:59:55 pm »
Sounds really cool. One problem though. You would have to sit and watch the endingshow all the way through and those shows are seriously boring. Can´t help but wonder if Diabolo could be a good event. Also, 1000 Diabolists :shock:? . It sounds like China has more than the rest of the world combined.

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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2006, 07:08:59 pm »
If you're not willing to sit through the entire 3 hour Closing Ceremony to wait for 2 minutes of diabolo, well, then you're just not dedicated enough, you'll have to revoke your Diabolo.ca membership I'm afraid. [1]

I sat and watched the Winter Olympic closing ceremony to watch a few moments of club juggling with Radical Fish.  I doubt many other people remember it though.

That sounds like a great idea, hope it goes well for them, nice to bring a bit of heritage into the event your organise, that's why it moves each time, so it can be a little more diverse.  2012, there's gonna be tea, black cabs and the English Institute of Queueing.

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MIKA

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Mass spectacles at the Olympic Games with diabolo
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2006, 09:35:18 pm »
China is a totalitarian state and I hope thy are not exploiting the peaceful ancient form of diabolo and exploit the games to bedazzle many foreign spectators with an image of a peaceful,"TOLERANT", "DEMOCRATIC" China.

There was this guy in 1936 who was able to use the Olympic games for his own evil purposes.

 

"German sport has only one task: to strengthen the character of the German people, imbuing it with the fighting spirit and steadfast camaraderie necessary in the struggle for its existence."-
THIS INLUDEd ONLY ARYANS and people who go conform with the nazi regime, politicals opponets were sent to the KZ befor hand

or:

"WE WANT TO ORGANIZE FOR THE OPENING AND CLOSING CERMONY OF THE OLYMPIC GAMES A SPECTACLE WITH 1000 DIABOLO PLAYERS. IF OUR IDEAS BECOME REALITY, THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD GET TO KNOW CHINESE DIABOLO!DAS PLAY WITH DIABOLOS IS NOT ONLY A TOY OR A SPORT. IN CONTRAST IT WILL SHOW ALSO THE ELEGANT APPEARANCE AND VITALITY OF THE CHINESE PEOLPE"

THE CHINESE PEOPLE INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO ARE  WITH THE REGIME AND ARE NOT PRO DEMOCRACY, FALUN GONG-some form of Buddism and the politicals will be sent to camps before the olympics...i read they have death/torture camps in china.



The Nazis organized mass spectacles as well and bedazzled the rest of the world. That's what china might do, but probably  not only with their 1000 diabolist.
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2006, 10:58:35 pm »
.... and little martians will take over the world  :?   seriously chill Mika.  I doubt that they will torture the 1000 diaboloists in china.  Yes they do have rigorous training and must mantain excellence but torture is extreme for even China.  (yes i'm chinese).  just my 2 cents

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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2006, 05:00:05 am »
Quote from: J_J777
just my 2 cents


Can somebody explain that to me? I've heard it before
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2006, 05:13:34 am »
can Australia go in it??
GO HARD OR GO HOME DIABOLO FOREVER!
I LOVE 2 DIABOLO'S!

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2006, 05:18:34 am »
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can Australia go in it??

Read it more closely.. :-s
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Re: Mass spectacles at the Olympic Games with diabolo
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2006, 01:49:59 pm »
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China is a totalitarian state and I hope thy are not exploiting the peaceful ancient form of diabolo and exploit the games to bedazzle many foreign spectators with an image of a peaceful,"TOLERANT", "DEMOCRATIC" China....


I like your way of thinking MIKA. And of course that's what China wants to do with the whole Olympics.

However, let's hope that the sight of 1,000 diabolos in the air creates a tidal wave of national spirit and pride, causing them to rampage through the streets and throw off the yoke of commu-capitalism.

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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2006, 02:22:39 pm »
im so confused.... but its great to see diabolos getting out there. but 1000 diaboloists is a bit extreme even for china...
diabolo is my religion!

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2006, 02:30:12 pm »
I don't think it's extreme .. they've got 2 years to practice.
//Jakob

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2006, 04:05:54 pm »
where are you from Mika?
Rooted diabolist.

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I prefer 1000 french diabolists at the games in France...
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2006, 10:31:52 pm »
Josh, i am so so sorry i have studied a lot of  history and i also have  a very peaceful mind.

 if you look closely at China's Human Rights Fact Sheet- you might agree that France may have been a better choice for the games  (i dont really care about the 1000 diabolists), as there is no danger of politicisation of the games...

...wouldn't it be better to have the games in France with 1000  french diabolists (including the mad french pose)....javascript:emoticon(':lol:')
playing at the olympic games in France- a very  peaceful, democratic state in europe...or even the US- we put Matt hall in the middle of the field, he is cooler than 1000 diabolists from china


But here some facts on China:
Human rights violations in the People's Republic of China (PRC) remain systematic and widespread. The Chinese government continues to suppress dissenting opinions and maintains political control over the legal system, resulting in an arbitrary and abusive judicial regime.

human rights violation
1. Controls on Expressions and Associations
2. Torture and Ill-Treatment of Prisoners
3.Lack of Judicial Independance and Due Process
4. Death Penalty
5. Tibet-PRC policies, including population transfers of hundreds of thousands of Chinese into Tibet, threaten to make Tibetans a minority in their own land and to destroy Tibetans' distinct national, religious and cultural identity. In Tibet, hundreds of Tibetans have been incarcerated for peacefully expressing their political and religious beliefs. Conditions in prisons are reported to be dismal, with numerous accounts of torture and ill-treatment. In particular, PRC law enforcement officials have perpetrated violent acts against Tibetan women in detention centers and prisons. Buddhist nuns and lay women have been subject to torture or violent, degrading and inhuman treatment, including assault, rape and sexual abuse.. PRC authorities also have severely restricted religious practice; out of the 6,000 Buddhist monasteries that were destroyed by the PRC since its 1949 invasion of Tibet, only a few hundred have been rebuilt.
5.Women
6. Resource List
7. Controls on Expressions and Associations
8.Restrictions on Free Speech and the Media: Although the PRC's 1982 Constitution guarantees citizens freedom of expression and of the press, its preamble mandates adherence to "four basic principles"-- the CCP's leadership, socialism, dictatorship of the proletariat and Marxism-Leninism Mao Zedong Thought. In practice, the PRC employs a wide range of controls that violate the right to free expression and interfere with independent media. These include severe restrictions on contact between foreign news media and Chinese viewed by the government as critical of the regime. An extensive censorship bureaucracy licenses all media outlets and publishing houses and must approve all books before publication.
10. Torture of detainees is endemic in Chinese detention centers and prisons. Although China became party to the UN Convention Against Torture in 1988, the government has not taken effective measures to diminish the risk of prisoners being tortured or ill-treated. Despite strong evidence of torture in several cases of death in custody, state prosecutors have refused to release autopsy results to families or to initiate investigations. In many detention centers, beatings, inadequate food and poor hygiene appear to be a routine part of the process of eliciting confessions and compliance from detainees. Such treatment is applied to ordinary prisoners as well as political detainees.

According to prisoner reports, methods commonly used by guards include: beatings using electric batons; rubber truncheons on hands and feet; long periods in handcuffs and/or leg irons, often tightened so as to cause pain; restriction of food to starvation levels; and long periods in solitary confinement. Furthermore, corrupt authorities at detention centers, prisons and labor camps have extorted large sums of money from families of detainees for the state's provision of "daily supplies" and "medical expenses."

It probably would look great to have 1000 chinese diabolist at the games, but the 1000 Bund deutscher maedel girls in Berlin in 1936 who did their drills with sticks slooked great, too
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