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The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« on: February 16, 2008, 05:43:53 pm »
I was asked in the past often whether I could make a similar form of axle kit
for the Finesse Diabolo as the Ultra Leicht Kits have with the Circus Diabolo.
Now the new axle kit for the Finesse is available.
Here a sample with white hubs




It will be also possible to get them in black, more photos will follow soon
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 05:56:06 pm »
Nice work!
They look really good and very well made.
How much do they weigh with the kits on and are they easily attached?
Im going to assume you will be selling these, so how much would they cost?

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2008, 06:09:34 pm »
The weight of Finesse with them is 246g.
also the width is affected, they add 7mm width.
I mount often diabolos so for me it is easy,
but I could give a description to sellers how it works.
The price will be 16,5 Euros.
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2008, 06:23:54 pm »
Wow, those look amazing, if only I had extra money for juggling equiptment right now...

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2008, 07:57:48 pm »
are these available to buy?? if so, where from?? ???
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2008, 08:24:23 pm »
follow up:

will these be available in the uk?
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2008, 01:22:22 am »
They look ugly :D
Looks easier to play though, a reason I normally don't like finesses is because they're too narrow in the middle, this seems to fix that (as well as wide-axle kit). nice work.

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2008, 02:52:36 am »
Gotta agree with Miesta
I think they look really ugly
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2008, 05:47:20 am »
I agree with the two above me. But very well made.
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2008, 07:10:47 am »
nice job jurgen, very proffesional looking as always but ive drifted away from the old classics since trying bearings.

i was thinking when i chucked my fixed axle on my fly instead of bearing and tried to put it on my finesse, wouldnt it be cool to make a hub to fit onto the fly bearing thats made for the finesse.

i know i would by converter hubs if someone made them.

daniel, sorry for offtopicness

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2008, 11:40:48 am »
are these available to buy?? if so, where from?? ???
here is the guy on MSN saying finnesse were rubbish! And now he is asking where to get the accessories from!! lol joking

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2008, 01:49:01 pm »
You made Finesses look even more weird JC, well done :D How do they play then? I guess the feeling might be quite close to a circus with your kits am I right?

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2008, 03:13:37 pm »
the feeling is good when I play with them,
similar like the Circus with the Ultra Leicht Kit,
as you assumed. I think someone who likes them
on the Circus will also like them on the Finesse
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2008, 04:04:21 pm »
here is the guy on MSN saying finnesse were rubbish! And now he is asking where to get the accessories from!! lol joking


if finesse can look like this, and work like this, then i may actually like finesse, i have one of these kits for a circus, and i love it, maybe it could improve a Finesse.


i must say though, i ill always back circus rather than finesse :P :P :P
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2008, 07:15:08 pm »
They look ugly :D
Gotta agree with Miesta
I think they look really ugly

How can anyone think they are ugly?
I only think they are different!
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2008, 02:41:43 am »
They look great! Reminds me a lot of how taibolo's look for some reason..

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 03:01:58 am »
They look great! Reminds me a lot of how taibolo's look for some reason..
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2008, 12:17:48 pm »
<rembers the warning 'Do not return to firework once lit, light with a taper at arms length and retreat to a safe  distance'
Hah!  Indeed.

JC, are you familiar with Diabigs/Yoho jumbos?  I think they could really benefit from PTFE replacement hubs (standard width), but I don't know how possible or difficult that might be.  I'm just thinking out loud, but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2008, 06:09:37 pm »
if anything it should be easier to do with diabigs due to the hubs being more like a washer than a hub, i reckon that kit of a diabig would be amazing.

being a fan of the circi with this kit on, i expect these will be beutifull, and with the option of weight kits they should appeal to a wider audience too

very well done

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2008, 07:02:47 pm »
@Legault, putting out fire with gasoline...perhaps you don´t know this,
here was a discussion about this in the past;-)


@Dave, I´m not so familar with the YoHos, but one possibily for these ones is to replace
the big heavy metal washers. At the last diabolocamp in Germany we changed it against
an other smaller washer. You could try it with one of the brass washers from a Circus Diabolo

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2008, 07:10:47 pm »
Thanks.  The reason I asked is that I don't like the plastic that yoho middles are made of.   Maybe just because it seems too soft.  It means they react to stick contact badly, and I think it makes the string tangle too much.  Pretty much the same reasons that made so many people go for replacement Henrys axle kits.  The lower quality of yoho stuff doesn't help either.  The engineering of Henrys, Babache, Sundia, etc is much better, and it seems that the main problem is the middles.

Anyway, I'm taking your thread OT here, I'm just interested in possibilities!

Dave

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2008, 08:09:16 pm »
Awesome again JC. I feel eager to try out those kits, after all i'm your big fan.
Been using your leight kits for 3 years now. For me they are the greatest improvement
for my diabolos. So i think i owe you much. Finesses have never been my cup of
tea but i look forward on trying those out.

Are you taking some of them with you to Karlsruhe this summer? I think i could buy
few of them to take back for Finnish jugging conventions. Probably Samuli will do
the same. ;)
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2008, 01:38:52 am »
Those look gorgeous! Strange to see white hubs on a finesse... I like it.

I'd be curious to see some closer photographs. It's intriguing how you've shaped the hubs where they join the cups.

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2008, 11:57:20 am »
they dont look as stylish in white, plus i dont like the way they suddenly go concave, if that were slightly smoother at the edge it would look even better  :P

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2008, 07:18:37 pm »
@marco
Thanks for your comment, and surely we will meet on the EJC in Karlsruhe

@Sean, today I learned two new words gorgeous and intriguing...
I will make in the next days a closer photo and will also add photos from the narrow white and a black (with a white ring) version of the Ultra Leicht Kits.

@JCB3000, that was also my first thought, but it was not possible.
Hub diameters of the Circus and of the Finesse are different.
The easiest way was to place the slightly modified hub of a Circus Ultra Leicht Kit into a ring that fits in the Finesse. So I decided to do what Sean mentioned, I elongated the shape of the cup...
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2008, 06:40:57 pm »
The photo is not the best, it is from the black axle version,
I will replace it soon, but you could see more details

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2008, 11:02:17 pm »
Now she's lookin' sexier!

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2008, 05:04:48 am »
That looks soo nice! Loving the white stripe.
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2008, 07:20:02 am »
they do look nice.... good work
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2008, 01:59:51 pm »
I bet a white finesse with white hubs and black rings would look pretty nice too. Or just plain white  ::).

So the hub is slightly modified hub of a Circus Ultra Leicht Kit? How is it modified? It would be great if a original hub for henrys could be mounted to finesse with that little ring part. But i guess that is not the case?

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2008, 06:15:58 pm »
In the moment this is not possible...I have to rework each hub.
If I order the next hubs in the future (this will take a while) I try to go this way.

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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2008, 10:39:40 pm »
reckon you could do that (the ring to mount the circus concave hubs on a finesse) to a finesse with fly bearings?  ;D

i also think the work on the finesse is quite impressive

Daniel,

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2008, 07:23:58 pm »
How they look in green, yellow, blue, orange (white ring/black hub)
is viewable here
http://diabolonet-shop.homepage.t-online.de/Webshop.php?x=10&y=10&Benutzername=&wl=7&opt=1&inc=2&auto=2


and here is orange (completely white axle), red and white
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2008, 07:27:58 pm »
light blue finesse,that was somthing new!!
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2008, 11:03:07 pm »
Hmmmm. Might sell off my four G2's and put that towards 3 of those green ones.. Yummmm.
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« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2008, 04:28:01 am »
Orange with white stripes and black hubs looks like Nemo!

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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2008, 11:24:41 am »
well ive had a go on these, and i can honestly say that they are great!

i have just (kinda) converted to a nice heavy circus for a while, but really these are so much nicer im going to have to get some of the black ones. would say that they do play better with the 6g weight kits, but that is just personal prefernce.

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2008, 08:53:09 pm »
Is it good for excalibur diaboloing ?

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2008, 11:31:22 pm »
I'm not entirely sure, but i would guess that it'd be slightly harder because of the reduced hub area for the string to rub on

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2008, 01:48:29 am »
I just received my two finesses today.....to satisfy background curiosities, I use sundia suns (with plastic washers and aluminium center piece), flys, and taibolos most of the time.

These are very well balanced and nicely weighted diabolos in the end.  Each diabolo is very stable and easy to do all the 1D tricks with the possible exception being excalibur (which admittedly I'm still learning, but I couldn't do anything with these).  The transition from the hub to the axel is completely smooth and takes double wraps with ease.  For 2D, there is no issues with low speed turn as with the Evo1 (wide axle) kit.  If you like a finesse with a wide axle, then order JC's kit and make your diabolos really nice. 

I have a performance with my high school's diabolo club tomorrow in front of 2700 people and will be using JC's finesses.  enough said.


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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2008, 02:08:27 am »
I'm not entirely sure, but i would guess that it'd be slightly harder because of the reduced hub area for the string to rub on

I don't know about you, but I don't need to rub the hubs to get into excalibur =b
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2008, 05:16:52 pm »
I don't know about you, but I don't need to rub the hubs to get into excalibur =b

So how do you force it into that plane against the gyroscopic effect? Mind power?

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2008, 09:25:23 pm »
revolutions kits...
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2008, 10:54:29 pm »
So how do you force it into that plane against the gyroscopic effect? Mind power?


No, throw it in, or use the stick. Also like JC said, revo kits =D
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2008, 07:00:11 pm »
What I'm saying is, to keep the diabolo in vertax plane there needs to be some friction against the hub unless you're spinning fast enough for the centrifugal force to be greater than gravity.

I think.

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2008, 09:48:31 pm »
Centrifugal force doesn't exist.
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2008, 09:49:02 pm »
What I'm saying is, to keep the diabolo in vertax plane there needs to be some friction against the hub unless you're spinning fast enough for the centrifugal force to be greater than gravity.

I think.

Beni

you are wrong in so many ways. for a start centrifugal force doesn't exist! what i think you are trying to say is that centripetal force is higher than gravity then the diabolo will just turn into vertax? this is also wrong. centripetal force works as a result of gravity, so it will never be higher than it as it works in conjunction not separately. the only reason that the principle of a diabolo works (i.e. remains steady apron spinning) is due to centripetal force, however this has no direct connection with getting into vertax. at least i think this is correct, garner or Sharpe's will correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure.

(beni this wasn't a flaming it was a correction don't take it the wrong way)

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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2008, 09:59:58 pm »

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2008, 10:01:39 pm »
Centripetal force plays a small part of getting into vertex. Small, but it's still there.

And the reason 'centrifugal force' is used by some people is to make otherwise complex physics calcutions simple. The easiest way of thinking about it is as a reactant force.

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« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2008, 10:18:57 pm »
chears barnsey that is funny as.
i stand partially corrected, yes leo it has been created for calculations to become possible, but it stands as a concept and not much more.

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2008, 11:20:15 pm »
can someone please explain what centripetual force is?

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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2008, 11:58:36 pm »
Ask your science teacher they Will be able to explain alot better than me, (I'm not even sure if i know anymore) but its the principle of when something is spinning (in most cases) that all of the mass within the object tries to force itself to outermost point which then creates stability, same reason you cant stay balanced on a bike if its stationary.

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« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2008, 03:01:07 am »
can someone please explain what centripetual force is?
I'm pretty sure it's centripetal force...no?
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2008, 03:41:25 am »
Perhaps a diabolo physics thread is needed  ???

I think thats the first time I've used ??? before.
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2008, 03:50:38 am »
there are two centrifugal, and centripetal

centrifugal is the outward force from the swinging - why your diabolo goes the middle of the string when doing vertax suns
^-v are used to simulate gravity in space or vertax =D
centripetal is the inward force from the string - why your diabolo doesn't go flying while doing vertax suns

also there is rotational inertia - aka weighting - rim/cup weighting lets you have more spin and stability because of greater rotational inertia, the fact that this kit makes the finesse taller it improves this since the weight is farther from the center vise versa for center weighting
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2008, 02:40:23 pm »
I think we are asking the wrong question here. It should not be how' the diabolo gets into vertax, but 'why' the diabolo gets into vertax.
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2008, 03:52:38 pm »
no it is deffenatly HOW it remains stable within vertax, and WHY it works that way!
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2008, 05:42:47 pm »
the how is irrelevant if you don't know why.
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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2008, 06:14:25 pm »
Centrifugal force is easy to misinterpret. Most of the time when people use the term 'centrifugal force' they are incorrectly referring to a consequence of the centripetal force as another force. However, 'centrifugal force' does have its place. (I like Dave's link!)
Wikipedia does a good job on this topic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force 

But ahem... this does seem a bit off-topic now?

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2008, 10:23:49 am »
Wow, didn't mean to spark this off, by centrifugal force I mean the outward momentum of the diabolo when spinning in vertax, like a hammer throw or a planetary orbit. surely if you're spinning fast enough that this force (i.e. the force determining the momentum of the diabolo if the diaboloist were to let go of both sticks*) became greater than the pull of gravity, you wouldn't have to correct the falling of the diabolo by rubbing the top hub because the speed in which it is orbiting is fast enough to sustain its height.

But, as Sean says, this is a *little* off topic. Diabolo physics thread anyone?

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Re: The evolution of the Finesse Diabolo is going on
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2009, 12:46:40 am »
A while back JC kindly sent me one of these (along with some other much appreciated goodies). Thought I'd jump in and mention just how much I'm enjoying it. The black hubs with white ring on orange cups looks incredible; the craftmanship is highly professional; and you get all the same benefits of these hubs as on the circus. These hubs, like the circus ones, are the absolute best for finger grinds (outside of Flys) and nothing else feels quite as soft on the string. Of course they're a bit wider, so you're trading a bit of slow speed stability for these benefits, but such is physics. In fact they become the exact same width as Flys or Suns.

Sorry if that sounds like an infomercial. I do really like them. I'm also loving the narrow width curved Circus hubs, but that's for another day and another thread.