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Nick

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Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« on: March 07, 2008, 10:15:57 am »
Duncan Yo-Yos have just released their product catalogue for 2008.
http://www.yo-yo.com/catalog_pdfs/duncan_catalog.pdf
Of particular note to people on this forum is their plan to release a new diabolo:

They only have early CAD designs available as it is still in the prototyping stage at the moment. From Jack Ringca, Team Leader of the Duncan Crew:
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We are really excited about the proto and hope to produce an even better product than that. There are portions of its design that are not shown due to forthcoming patents.
Still waiting to hear about the specs.

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 10:17:48 am »
Interchangable?! Thats awesome. The most convenient diabolo ever. I'm going to have to get one. Even if they play terrible.
Thanks very much for the link Nick!
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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2008, 11:20:58 am »
I want one (Well 3+) !

I expect these to be decent, Hopefully not too overpriced though.

(And I've thought about a new project in 3D-Design at school ;)

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2008, 04:32:56 pm »
Quite an innovative idea. I wonder how they will actually play though and what the ratchet axle will be like. If they put some effort into the bearing then they might be quite good, but you never can tell how a diab plays until you play them. I wonder if they are going to be hard of soft cups?

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 04:50:43 pm »
There were rumours about Yoyojam doing something like this a while ago but that never materialised. You gotta wonder if they take the same approach with diabolos as yoyos (competitions, teams etc)

Whatever it plays like it should be interesting,

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 05:07:31 pm »
i want this to work i really do, but..... i have a funny feeling that that they will be alsolout trollop!

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2008, 06:39:40 pm »
i have faith in duncan. they have made some amazing products,

it all depends on what size it is........

come on 4inch

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 10:24:06 pm »
I think that the bearings will be absolutely brilliant, but the cups won't be as good. somebody should email them suggestion about the cups. Also, i believe they should come out with a 5-inch variation and a 4-inch variation. The cups should be interchangeable (totally brilliant).

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2008, 12:53:29 pm »
wow, I like the idea, definitely going to have to get some, the knob would make ufo's hard though.
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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2008, 03:17:17 pm »
I've got to have two.

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2008, 04:24:27 pm »
My guess is the first edition of these diabolos will be awful bearings and awful fixed all in one. I'll bet there'll be an issue with balance.

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2008, 06:32:55 pm »
i'd save your opinion till you get to try or someone else did. everyone said the wheel would be rubbish and how wrong were they.

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2008, 11:39:09 am »
I voted yes for the wheel, I saw potential in it personally.

It says two new features; I only count one.

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2008, 12:14:31 pm »
'The Wheel' for the most part is still useless. You can't really go anywhere on one wheel...the second wheel was by far the superior invention.


Back on topic and even if you think it's going to be a flop you'll probably be still interested to see how it turns out. I myself think it'll be decent. Duncan have a good reputation with their yoyo's so...

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Beni

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2008, 10:31:25 pm »
Unicycle?

Yeah I guess it works with yoyos but then again the diabolo spins a lot more violently and the knob is only "hand tightened"...

Beni

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2008, 12:21:20 am »
^ what!? if anything yo-yos spin faster, trust, they will get round any problems

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Beni

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2008, 09:38:31 am »
I disagree, a yo-yo is a lot smaller and so the spin may be faster but there is less force. A diabolo, however, is jerked around (especially in vertax) and a lot more power goes into making it spin. Occasionally one of my finnesses will loosen, and that's tightened with a tool.

Beni

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2008, 07:57:48 pm »
My guess is they'll develop a system so that the axle is tightened by machine/tools until the final 2 notches which will be the difference between bearing and fixed.  Cannot say it will play well in either aspect yet but its an interesting idea indeed.


Dan

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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2008, 08:20:03 pm »
Watch a video by Hiroyuki Suzuki (mickey) and you'll know that yoyo's get jerked around a fair bit aswell :P
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Re: Phoenix Diabolo: New Diabolo from Duncan Yo-yos
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2008, 08:47:02 pm »
^ cant say i'm a mickey fan to be honest. going completely off topic have a look at this

ridiculous

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