Author Topic: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle  (Read 47722 times)

Duncan

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #60 on: April 12, 2008, 10:09:31 pm »
the main reason i didnt go for one was because i stil drop a lot and have heard the the plastic cups gauge and scratch easily

The only time you should worry about that is if you're diaboloing on concrete - that scratches up the plastic cups badly. If you're mostly diaboloing inside, on grass or in a gym/non-concrete floor, plastic cups are fine.

mellowscholar

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #61 on: April 13, 2008, 01:46:06 am »
Even if bearings were made to make things easier, why would it matter.
If people didn't want to make things easier diabolos would still be two conjoined wooden cones and none of us could do any of the stuff we do at all.
I think it's less a case of fixed versus bearing and more of the two of them hugging and having a healthy respect for one another.

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« Reply #62 on: April 13, 2008, 02:04:58 am »
Even if bearings were made to make things easier, why would it matter.
If people didn't want to make things easier diabolos would still be two conjoined wooden cones and none of us could do any of the stuff we do at all.
As everyone has been saying, It's not about making things easier, it's about opening up new possibilities. I'm sure even a wooden diabolo can do things that 'normal' diabolos can't do, like provide a source for fire for example. :D

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #63 on: April 13, 2008, 02:19:51 am »
True. It's an endless discussion anyway.

I wanted to buy one of those wooden babies in my local museum gift shop but it was £3.50!! Extortionate.

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« Reply #64 on: April 13, 2008, 01:03:24 pm »
The only time you should worry about that is if you're diaboloing on concrete - that scratches up the plastic cups badly. If you're mostly diaboloing inside, on grass or in a gym/non-concrete floor, plastic cups are fine.
yeah most of my practise is on concrete though :P
tricks im happy with
2d stuff
grinds
sticktrap
sticktrap double release
sprinkler/sprinkler suicide

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #65 on: April 13, 2008, 06:56:20 pm »
PS ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITH FIXED, CAN BE DONE WITH BEARING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

Elevator? :P

fzzyrn

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #66 on: April 13, 2008, 07:43:43 pm »
you can do that. it just needs like 4 or more wraps.

Eric Moffett

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #67 on: April 13, 2008, 07:53:11 pm »
Elevator? :P

Or a yo-yo variation of the trick. Like I said one way or another
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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #68 on: April 13, 2008, 08:05:38 pm »
garner can do elevator.
anything you can do with a bearing you can do with a fixed
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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #69 on: April 13, 2008, 08:11:16 pm »
Wrong. I have a nice knot trick around the axle with 2D that you just can't do with fixed axles.
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Eric Moffett

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2008, 08:12:28 pm »
I mean, to the point to where one isn't limited in the other for the fundamentals. Not quite the extreme stuff.
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nev

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2008, 12:28:36 am »
garner can do elevator.
anything you can do with a bearing you can do with a fixed

You can do an elevator -  but why would you want too.  Bearings offer so much more - & & no you can't do anything you can do on bearings with fixed - not even close - but you can do most things with fixed on a bearing.
www.Diabolomoves.co.uk/diabolos/ - shop for Sundia diabolos, Handsticks & String

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #72 on: April 15, 2008, 07:57:13 pm »
I´d like to see someone grab a fixed axle diabolo between pointy finger and middle finger and keep it there for 10 seconds :P

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2008, 08:08:02 pm »
You could do that with a finnesse with a wide axle, but...

60 seconds!
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JC

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2008, 08:34:23 pm »
it´s the same for a Circus with a Ultra Leicht Kit or with a Finesse with a Ultra Solution Kit....
www.diabolonet.de - email to: diabolo-kits@web.de
MONOBOLOS, Henrys Circus, Vision and MB Finesse with round shaped axles

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2008, 09:04:32 pm »
it´s the same for a Circus with a Ultra Leicht Kit or with a Finesse with a Ultra Solution Kit....
Ultra Solution Kit?

JC

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2008, 09:19:30 pm »
The round shaped kits for the Finesse
you could find them here between the other axle kits
http://www.diabolonet.de/Webshop.php?opt=10&wl=0&Benutzername=

www.diabolonet.de - email to: diabolo-kits@web.de
MONOBOLOS, Henrys Circus, Vision and MB Finesse with round shaped axles

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2008, 07:29:39 pm »
Are bearings mostly for advance knots, long combos and grinds?

Just wondering.. I have never seen or have played with a bearing.

I am not into the making combos yet so I don't know if i should buy one.

But just a quick question. Is lurning 2d with bearing easier then fixed or has it no difference?

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2008, 08:29:37 pm »
learning 2d is probably better to do with fixed... in my opinion.

bearings are for everything as with fixed, its just a bit different. get one and try it out if you've got disposable income, i'd recomend a fly.

for other advice check out the rest of this thread and the others about bearings.

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Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« Reply #79 on: May 19, 2008, 08:58:48 am »
learning 2d is probably better to do with fixed... in my opinion.

bearings are for everything as with fixed, its just a bit different. get one and try it out if you've got disposable income, i'd recomend a fly.

for other advice check out the rest of this thread and the others about bearings.
I bought one.. But I can't play with them.. So I'll just stick my finesses