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My Idea...
« on: April 08, 2008, 03:47:54 pm »
Hey
I have an idea which may or may not work...
Maybe you could have a differential axle so that one cup could go faster than the other and also the cups could spin different directions...

Could this be helpful for any tricks or would it just be pointless  ???

Jack

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 04:01:23 pm »
You'd have to have 2 different axles connected to a center hub first of all, with the axle over it, and i think you'd have to make something that takes up too much space if you want them to spin different directions.

I think it would just be pointless..

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 04:28:41 pm »
hehe fair enough but i have the design all done out... I might scan it in and show you all to see what you think then... it would take up no more space than an average bearing.

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 04:55:31 pm »
so would it be like two diabolos stuck together? or maybe have a small stopper in the middle to separate the axles? sounds pointless if you ask me

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 04:59:13 pm »
How would the other one spin the other direction though? You'd have to have something to reverse force.

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 05:23:09 pm »
What extra effects would this achieve? Why re-invent the wheel?
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 05:56:45 pm »
Well, a free spinning cup, which wasn't connected to the axel could be useful. You could just grab the edge of the cup like a revo kit, which is most definately cool. I get the feeling that this could be quite hard to do, but would be almost certainly worth it if it's possible.

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2008, 06:27:27 pm »
i would like to see the design  ;D
if it works it sounds cool to me, bit weird though

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2008, 06:29:13 pm »
Well, a free spinning cup, which wasn't connected to the axel could be useful. You could just grab the edge of the cup like a revo kit, which is most definately cool. I get the feeling that this could be quite hard to do, but would be almost certainly worth it if it's possible.

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Hah, had the same idea few nights back when I couldn't get sleep. I thought about the design and came to the conclusion that it would be probably easier to connect sort of extra cup to one-way bering axle.. Hmm, just wait a sec, I'll draw a picture of it.

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2008, 07:48:16 pm »
a lot of the diabolos stability is achieved through speed, i dont really see how u could accelerate effectively and if one cup was spinning faster than the other the diabolo would either turn or just wobble and fall off. it impracticle, i dont really think it can work.

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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2008, 08:04:19 pm »
Ok there:


Little different from what I was trying to explain first. Basically It is just a massive hubstack, that covers the diabolo, connecteted to bearing hubs on the outside of the diabolo. I don't know too much about physics, but my guess would be that the 'extra-cup' should be pretty light. Since it doesn't really gain spin when you speed up the diab, the extra weight makes it harder to the actual diabolo to remain its spin.

But if that kind of kit could be built, it would allow one to manipulate the diabolo even when holdin on to it, and there still would be the spin that keeps it stable. Whole new dimension to contact diabolo I say..  And you wouldn't even have to run after the diab when you drop it, great for lazy people like me..

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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2008, 09:10:12 pm »
The diabolo of the future. Would make string rejections impossible though :-\.

I think one free-spinning cup would unbalance the diabolo completely and probably rotate it. Although you might be able to achieve something like that by having a hubstack on a one-sided diabolo (on the opposite side to the cup, where there's the counterweight).

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2008, 09:16:50 pm »
At tommi: Yeah, its not quite the half and half design! So its like a shell around everything but the axle? I have to say, thats a quality idea idea. Prototype?

One way bearing in the middle and normal bearings holding the shell right? *tries to get head around having both oneway axles*




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so would it be like two diabolos stuck together? or maybe have a small stopper in the middle to separate the axles?

This sounds like the most realistic way of doing it, but it means that the one way bearings in the axle couldnt drive the spindle, it would have to drive one of the cups independently instead. Or maybe even a split spindle? Am i making sense? im not even sure.

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2008, 09:40:58 pm »
Really interesting idea, not a way I'd thought about it at all.

The outer cup would have to be really rigid so you didn't squeeze the innner, spinning one if you wanted to grab it, and cup corrections would be non-existent.

But you could do some really interesting cup grinds (or perches, in this case) much like with the revo kit, I guess. I suppose it's an extension of that idea; a free component beyond the axle.

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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2008, 09:45:05 pm »
Someone email Duncan quick and have whatever design plans they have changed. Immediately!

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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2008, 09:57:06 pm »
now that, is a very interesting idea! i have a spinning top with a similar design. you blow into it to keep the inside gyroscope spinning but the outside you can stop spinning and it re-starts automatically when placed down. i was going to comment on the outer shell being rigid. seems like a good idea. if people thought that bearings were cheating, wait until they see this! it would be the ultimate form of 'cheating' :P

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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 11:21:36 pm »
heh, you could grab it and it would appear to stop spinning then just put it back on the string and it starts to spin magically =D
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 11:31:40 pm »
hmmm that sounds like a really cool idea. ive been thinking about it and if you just want one cup to stay still id say use a skateboard bearing or something on the inside of the cup in the hole where the hub slips in with a fixed axle. that way it would spin with it but if grabbed, it would only stop that cup not the axle or other cup.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 11:33:05 pm »
Hmmm, interesting, different direction spinning cups would be pointless I think, but very interested on how that would be achived, Tommi's design is sweet, would allow for ufos, as long as grinds, would prevent rolling from spin aswell, may be a potentially difficult diabolo to learn a roll start with as thw center wouldn't spin, but think of it, reverse direction bounce passes. Wait thought of an ambitious idea, from the original oposite spinning cups, a diabolo that could be spun by lefties, and righties facing the same way, the bearing would have to switch....hmm. just a thought. :P Still overall a very interesting idea.
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2008, 12:10:04 am »
It's not a bad design, but could do with some tweaking. I imagine making the cup within a cup would be very difficult and expensive to make. Also, when you drop the diabolo, it would force pressure onto the inner cup and slow/stop it from spinning. Maybe some lubricant could help it spin better inside.
I think you could modify a Fly diabolo to be similar to this design, just mod the axle and build a case for the cup.

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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2008, 08:09:31 am »
But if that kind of kit could be built, it would allow one to manipulate the diabolo even when holdin on to it, and there still would be the spin that keeps it stable. Whole new dimension to contact diabolo I say..  And you wouldn't even have to run after the diab when you drop it, great for lazy people like me..

Its a nice idea, but i dont see why that outer shelter must be timeglass shaped like diabolo.. if those "outer cups" would be just box-shaped it wouldnt go anywhere if you drop it :) it wont look very much like diabolo, but why should it?

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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2008, 08:36:58 am »
Jussi, word. I was thinking the same thing.

Tommi, there might be one small problem with it. Remember the
time you got a brand new diabolo on your hands, you add some speed
in it and you have no idea how much it's spins. Then it gets some dirt
and you can handle it better.

Now imagine diabolo where you actually don't see the spinning part at all
:D It will take some time to get used, not seeing the speed. Okay i admit
it....pause in writing.... oh. Totally forgot it, what i was saying. Well you
can get used to it quite quickly, ah there it is. The diabolo might not lose
it's speed that fast with all the bearings there.

Nice ideas. Many things worth of trying. ;)
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2008, 09:14:44 am »
Nice idea jussi! A triangle or star shaped diabolo would be pretty cool/funny, strange to play.
No one seems to have built any kinetically charged light kits yet either.

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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2008, 09:52:49 am »
Its a nice idea - I've also thought a little on this topic in the past.

The problem with this design would be the weight distribution - you're not going to have much mass actually spinning (most of the weight will be in the parts that don't spin), and its the spinning weight which keeps the diabolo stable.  Also without much mass spinning, you're going to have problems with the diabolo running out of spin pretty quickly (even with a bearing) - my past experiments have proved this to be the case.

The closest I could come to a solution was to have just the outer rim of the cups (outside 1 or 2cm only) on a large bearing ring so its just this part which does not spin.

Here's a very quick diagram (excuse the sloppiness - I drew whilst I was writing this)

The black is the cup (which still spins - so you can still cup correct etc) - the red is a large ring bearing mounted to the edge of the original cup - the green is the non spining part - either just an extension of the cup (right pic) or it could part cover the cup (left pic).

I have the tools but not the time to make one - if someone else could - I'd love to see if it works.

Edit - here's a better sketch of that
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2008, 11:39:45 am »
Hmm, it would have to be either a totally non-flex cup, because the races of bearings don't like to flex, or the bearing attached to the axle (so a much extended Revo kit with a ring as big as the cup diameter).  Praise to your felt-tip abilities.

Although I don't see a great deal of "usefulness" in these bearing ideas.  An issue I have with hub stacks on diabolos, is that it can seem like the diabolo isn't spinning at all, and it might as well not be.  Unlike a yoyo, it doesn't need to come back to the hand afterwards.  The only thing that I thought might be interesting is Tommi's idea, although impractical.  The illusion of "spinning diabolo, stop diabolo, oooo it's started spinning again" would be worth it.

As for one cup spinning one way, and the other in the opposite direction, instinct thinks you'll be running around in circles.

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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2008, 12:24:57 pm »
kinetically charged light kits yet either.

thats a pretty awsome idea i thought of something else whilst nodding off to bed;
solar powered! charge in the day, use at night! now thats a cool idea

anyways back to topic, are we thinking about the weight? that'll be incredibly heavy but i sort of have an idea on how to make it and could do a quick bodge at school with the vacuum formers and CAD CAM machines. as long as you keep the inside cup incredibly light you can concentrate on the outer cup. also thinking about "gyroscopics?"(not sure thats the word) the outer cup would move but wouldnt it rub on the hubs and axle? I think nevs idea is a good idea which has the potential to work

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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2008, 01:12:15 pm »
Great design Nev. I thought that that type of bearing ring would have to be added into the kit I suggested, to keep the outer cup from touching the inner one. And I'm sure you are very correct when you say there would be the weight would be a problem. (Someone please invent a super light/strong material to use for it :D) I think that your idea is much more realistic one to build.

I have some more ideas, maybe ones that can get around that weight issue too. But now I don't have the time or the energy to post them.

Edit: Marko, I know the cure for that one. Just have the shelter part transparent and inner cup with Arlequino type of texture. Would make a really pretty diab too ;)

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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2008, 01:40:23 pm »
this is quite old idea and allmost forgotten one.. (something same with those thoughts above)



this is main purpose what it is for.. infinite sprinkler.. of course it has other good abilities as well..


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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2008, 02:41:29 pm »
this is quite old idea and allmost forgotten one.. (something same with those thoughts above)



this is main purpose what it is for.. infinite sprinkler.. of course it has other good abilities as well..


nice idea you could do some pretty nice things with it , if one of those diabolo's get on the market i would sure buy one  ;D

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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2008, 10:19:19 pm »
if you think about it, if it was dropped it wouldnt roll away, well as far anyways. the only flaw i see with that design is what keeps the bearing from sliding off it?

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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2008, 11:31:04 pm »
These ideas are getting space-age now :D Good ideas.
With both of the previous design though, I can't help but think they're going to break when you drop them. Metal/bearings don't flex as easy as the diabolo cup.

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« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2008, 08:09:57 am »
Who said metal bearings - these days you can get plastic bearings (usually PEEK) - these also have the advantage of being leightweight
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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2008, 09:52:23 am »
Who said metal bearings - these days you can get plastic bearings (usually PEEK) - these also have the advantage of being leightweight
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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2008, 11:54:05 am »
Oooh infinite sprinkler, not sure if it would work but very sweet aplication for the diabolo. Now someone get on making it ;)
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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2008, 12:16:47 pm »
If you could somehow put a clutch system into tommi's design so that the cup would spin with the axle untill the cup was grabbed, engaging the cluth and having just the axle spinning. Then when you let go of the cup again the cluth would disengage and the cup would start spinning. I have very limited knowlege of cluthes like this and to be honest it is probably impossible, but it sure would be sweet if something like that could be made. A cup that IS the hubstack.

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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2008, 12:52:44 pm »
i had an idea of magnetic rings on the diabolo to keep them apart if that makes sense. make for interesting patterns if they couldn't collide and maybe keep it going for ever? but this is just a pipedream:)

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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2008, 01:10:17 pm »
Just got an idea from Funty's post (which is a good idea).
Is it possible to make light kits that are magnetically attached to the diabolo? I'm guessing the magnets might somehow affect the battery???
You could stick all kinds of things in there, as weights for example. Obviously need metal washers, like on Circus' or Sun's.

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« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2008, 01:17:51 pm »
srong magnets are fairly heavy
screws work good
righty tighty lefty loosy
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« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2008, 01:19:25 pm »
but you can't make it look like the diabolos magic by putting it on a table (and the magnet under) and moving it around. that would be a trick and a half

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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2008, 01:24:40 pm »
darragh should smoke less and spell more
Sorry
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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2008, 01:31:16 pm »
the idea of externally mounted tapered roller bearings, on the outer edge of the cups looks like it could work.
espically if the light weight plastic bearing that Nev it talking about really exist ;)
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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2008, 02:19:42 pm »
You doubt me?  -  they exist
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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2008, 02:31:52 pm »
the magnet idea looks promising. 2D with both diabolos having the same charged rings, they would repel, imaging the tricks you could do with that

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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2008, 02:35:45 pm »
na still dint believe ya
just like i dont believe all the fan combos and variations you showed at the BJC are really possable
Nev it might sound crazy but i think you are a CGI and so are your plastic bearings
but back to the topic
complicating the simplistic beauty of the diabolo
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« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2008, 03:19:47 pm »
if you think about it, if it was dropped it wouldnt roll away, well as far anyways. the only flaw i see with that design is what keeps the bearing from sliding off it?

well.. yeah.. there must be "gap" in diabolo cup that keeps those bearing balls (and whole ring) in same place all the time...

with ring diabolo you can give speed to diabolos when those lie on the floor.. i believe you can put example 4 this kind of ring diabolos to the floor, put string under these and give speed to all these 4 diabolos same time - then lift carefully whole stack to air and wow! there you got 4 diabolo "contact suffle" or something like that - i dont know enough about dynamics so i cant tell right away will that massive object tilt and collaps easily (those diabolos have their own rotating speed and gyroscopical abilities but how that whole system will behave?!?)

i dont believe those magnet things.. (sorry..)

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« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2008, 03:57:02 pm »
Oooh infinite sprinkler, not sure if it would work but very sweet aplication for the diabolo. Now someone get on making it ;)

Infinite Sprinkler already exists. Or infinite anti-sprinkler should i say.

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« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2008, 01:57:32 am »
Interesting thread, I like to see people thinking :)

Some issues however..

Cups spinning opposite directions = wobble, instability, incredibly quick precession..

One cup stopped one spinning = quick precession as well. Think of it as one cup trying to go somewhere, and having one foot nailed to the floor. When you release that cup, you will have stability problems until it can accelerate (it will due to the friction in the bearings)

A question about the original drawing. How do you put it together? You have a a hollow piece that has a piece trapped inside of it.. how'd it get there?

Bearings on the outer edges.. plastic bearings are light, yes, but they are also weak. They only have a fraction of the strength of steel bearings.. you'd smash them to bits in minutes with a few drops. Same goes for steel bearings really, you have a huge impact force when you have a high drop with something that weighs 250-300g and once they bend at all, you're done.

I think the effects you are all looking for -can- be done to some extent, but I'm not sure on the practicality of the ideas thus far.. now go prove me wrong :)

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« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2008, 08:42:07 am »
Bearings on the outer edges.. plastic bearings are light, yes, but they are also weak. They only have a fraction of the strength of steel bearings.. you'd smash them to bits in minutes with a few drops. Same goes for steel bearings really, you have a huge impact force when you have a high drop with something that weighs 250-300g and once they bend at all, you're done.

that will be problem in future.. i believe at this point one who have time and intrest to actually build these outer bearings wont throw it very high ;)

for mass production that ring should have similar elastic/deformation abilities (that topic is quite hard to my english) as diabolo itself.. same material would be fine..

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« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2008, 01:49:12 am »
Liking the idea with the magnets. So if the diabolo repel by themselves you could maybe keep a 4d shuffle (or more) in the string just by placing them there timely and then not really be required to do anything (doesn´t even sound like diaboling)?

Wouldn´t this require though that you have some kind of generator inside the diabolo that converted the energy from the spin into electricity which in turn creates the magnetic field (I´m total crap at science so not entirely sure) ???. If that is the case, it should be pretty hard to make small enough to fit inside the cups. Also, this generator should be able to start at just the slightest spin since you wouldn´t exactly be able to wrapstart and throwstarts would be difficult to get smooth perhaps. Is this possible?

Wonder if it would be possible to do colliding patterns accurately (D1 pushes D2 up-D3 etc) with magnets? If they would react like I think I´m imagining you wouldn´t even need to drive the diabolos, just using the left hand to adjust height for the force in the "repelled throws" would be sufficient? What about magnets at the tip/bottom handles of the sticks as well for stopping or tricks?

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« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2008, 05:58:29 am »
I don't think they're talking about electo-magnets, just the normal ones.

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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2008, 09:13:11 am »
One thing you are forgetting here is that if u put magnets on the outside of the cups, the diabolos may repel one another such that you could keep a 4d shuffle going, IF they are in the same plane. Once they move out of alignment they wouldnt repel one another so that u could keep the shuffle going, they would repel in all different directions (up, down, forwards, backwards, left, right). It would probably be harder than doing a 4d shuffle without magnets. One thing you also have to take account of is the polarity of the magnets. As well as pushing the diabolos apart, they attract, but if you have it set up so each is identical in the layout of the magnets and they way the diabolo is facing, you could get past this.
Also an idea that was raised earlier, one with the dual cup things (one cup on the inside and one on the outside with bearings). Someone said that u could make the outside cups box shaped or triangle shaped. That wouldnt work, because if those cups are spinning (and even if they arent) it would screw up the aerodynamics of diabolo, thats why they use cones. I think the best idea so far is putting rims on the diabolos which are on bearings. That would work pretty well if u want to catch the diabolo and hold it while its spinning, but again it might screw up the aerodynamics.
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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2008, 01:00:21 pm »
magnets are tricky things to get right. i had another spinning top ( i have quite a lot :)) and the basic principle was that you spun it on this strong magnetic base and it hovered in the air. i must have spent at least 6 hours fiddling with it and trying to get it to work but i could never get it exactly level. the point that i am trying to make is that 1. the magnets would have to be really strong to have any effect on the diabolos and to get any results the diabolos would have to be perfectly in line. i think that this idea is a bit too imaginative.

nev's idea was good because it allowed the diabolos to be left on the floor still spinning. lots of 2d vertax stuff could possibly start from having two spinning diabolos on the floor.

this is a great thread  :D



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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2008, 01:15:27 pm »
All of you guys are really creative and smart, its a pleasure to read this  :D

I think Nev's idea is the most reasonable one.
Magnets would definetly give way to amazing tricks, but the costs and hassle wouldn't make it worthwhile.
Someone should really have a go at creating Nev's diabolo, it could be the next thing.
Im pretty sure that there are some forum members here who go to university with physics or something similar, maybe they should be consulted?

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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2008, 02:38:11 pm »
This one's for Ben and anyone else that's interested.  It's the same magnet based top Ben was talking about.  The clip's been on the laptop for years now, hence looking about 12 years old :)

It works using three massive magnets on the the outside of the base with their field pointing upwards (bear with me).  By turning three dials on the edge of the base you adjust the direction of the field.  When you have them pointing at the exact same point the top will hover over the point, hence the lifting of the base to begin with.

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« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2008, 05:51:28 pm »
A friend of mine has one of these. I caould stare at them for hours  :P

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« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2008, 09:57:54 pm »
Same can be done with liquid nitrogen and a superconductor. If you happen to have liquid nitrogen spare :).

How about applying the magnetic spinning top idea to the amgnetic diabolo idea? That way you can get a bearing diabolo (with a magnetic axle, but not magnetic ball bearings) in vertax, allow it to hover over a really powerful magnet base at around shoulder height (I did say really powerful), start another diabolo up in vertax and pluck the first one out of the air and into a 2d vertax shuffle. This would be cool if you had a strong magnetic floor, repelling the diabolos so much they couldn't fall below chest height.

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William

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Re: My Idea...
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2008, 01:31:40 am »
repelling the diabolos so much they couldn't fall below chest height.
1) You must have a weird style if you never go below chest height in vertax. I'd go with knees or even just a few inches above the floor.
2)Would a floating diabolo loose speed? Stay at one speed (as S-fan) or even speed up?

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mellowscholar

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Re: My Idea...
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2008, 01:40:38 am »
Will, a floating diabolo won't lose too much speed if you just leave it there, exactly like a big version of loob's spinning top but if you're doing tricks and rubbing the string all over it i imagine it'd be taking the same amount of friction as usual (except maybe on the upper cup).

Although really really bloody impractical I think it would make for some cool vertax passing; like that sharpe stuff on the frozen lake but at chest height, and relatively slowly.

But I think that spinning top uses multiple magnets to keep it steady so it ends up staying in the same place hence making this whole fantasy completely useless.

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JimmyCords.

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Re: My Idea...
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2008, 09:02:21 am »
Now, if we could design a repulsor (an anti-gravity technology -[star wars ;) ]) and implement it into a diabolo, almost anything would be possible.......... So wat the hell are you doing reading this! Get out there and invent a repulsor!
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-Leo-

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Re: My Idea...
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2008, 10:04:39 am »
To be honest with all of these anti-grav floors and liquid nitrogen ideas it'd be easier just going to the moon.
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JimmyCords.

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Re: My Idea...
« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2008, 10:44:49 am »
Do u know how much that would cost????!!!! It'd be much cheaper just to develop some kind of anti-gravity technology!!!
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