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Darragh

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Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« on: May 22, 2008, 01:30:41 pm »
I spent the last few nights brain storming about hand sticks and came up with a few ideas ,
not exactly new design ideas but ways which meant i could make my sticks myself with a few basic tools .

i have used aluminum tube hollow with solid aluminum plug ends ,
the string is fitted like the carbons through the handle, but slides all the way up to the top once you tie the knot to save on string.

I have not fitted hand grips yet but at the moment one stick weighs 29 grams,
they are just a quick prototype but i am happy so far, the are fairly strong but the plug inserts need working on , but i have a plan.

the design allow for custom weight changes, and allows you to change the sticks center of  balance  (if that matters)


now off to play diabolo with the crazy Spanish lady.

ill post pictures and final weight when i have them.
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 02:40:19 pm »
love the name

Darragh

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 10:31:21 am »
I fitted some silicone grips to the sticks last night which brough the weight to 43 grams per handle.

almost identical in weight to my Henry's aluminum sticks

I am not happy about that so I have ordered some foam tubing to make hand grips, and that should drop the weight nicely.

They should be the lighter than any other aluminum sticks that i know of and strong too.



these ends will be rounded and the plug insert mounting will be seamless



tie one knot and pull it through easy, eliminates string waste and Mr B's fancy yet fragile screw on tips.

these are just a quick prototype with out proper chamfering, central drilling etc
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Darragh

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2008, 10:42:36 am »
Patent Pending :o
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2008, 10:44:35 am »
Looks cool. Are you planning on selling some ?

Darragh

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2008, 10:50:28 am »

Must test to destruction first, I will only sell them if I am 100% happy with there build Quality and durability.

This morning I was talking to a man who is a welder by trade and does a lot of work with aluminum, so i think i have the soloution to my final problem :)( and its a light weight solution)
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2008, 11:28:53 am »
Wow, that's pretty innovative and, when you think about it, obvious. Good on you for making some.

I'd be really interested in buying some with foam grips, or just buying some and fitting the grips myself.

Are they quite a bit thicker than henry's sticks? what sort of length are they?

Also, nice to see some whole milk there, sustenance for stick whittling.

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2008, 12:10:44 pm »
Wow, that's pretty innovative and, when you think about it, obvious. Good on you for making some.
I believe performer handsticks are like that

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2008, 12:12:40 pm »
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Are they quite a bit thicker than henry's sticks? what sort of length are they?

They are 12mm thick

The Length of the ones in the picture are the same length as henry's aluminum sticks .
I wanted to make them the same as the Henry's for weight comparison and to see how the balance/feel of them compared to the Henry's.

I can make them any Length required (between 3 to 100 cm ).

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Darragh

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2008, 12:35:30 pm »
I never saw the performer sticks and cant find any pictures on-line.
I did a search on here for them and had a quick read.
They were too heavy, too long, and the end plugs came out.
Nice to see where they went wrong, ill try and avoid the same mistakes .
could not find out about the string mounting but its only logical that its been done before, in some shape or form.

Thanks for the feedback,
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2008, 12:51:25 pm »
Looks pretty proffesional :), only wonder though if the aluminum caps at the end will cause much fraying potentially severing the string. ???
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2008, 01:44:15 pm »
My MB Xtreme G3's haven't really crapped out on me, except the grip on one went bye-bye during a genocide... I've put them through their paces...

But these look nice, consider anodizing to get custom colors? I always wanted that in a diabolo stick.
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2008, 01:55:54 pm »
the ends wont fray the string once they are smooth .
they will be rounded , not like the picture above



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But these look nice, consider anodizing to get custom colors? I always wanted that in a diabolo stick.
ill look in to it see how much it would cost.

thanks again for the input
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2008, 04:27:11 pm »
hello dude

 If you can create something that is very similar to the henrys ali's in terms of weight and thickness [I love both feature's] but stronger and with a choice of colours and grips then I think youd be on to a winner! [i.e id buy a set]

pics look great if a little wide for my taste.

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2008, 05:16:17 pm »
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If you can create something that is very similar to the Henry's ali's in terms of weight and thickness [I love both feature's] but stronger and with a choice of colours and grips then I think you'd be on to a winner! [i.e id buy a set]

Not sure yet but i think these sticks are as strong as if not stronger that the Henry's.
As far as colour choice and grip choice , I can do that its easy  but would never be able to sell them at a reasonable price.

I am starting to think its not really a runner to make these sticks economically.
i might make one batch of them and take it from there, but to make them the quality i want is very time consuming.
unless i can find a cnc machinist
looking into that too
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2008, 08:49:46 pm »
cool indeed. well done and all that.

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2008, 08:59:46 pm »
pics look great if a little wide for my taste.

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2008, 11:54:08 pm »
They looks great, nice work!
Where do you get silicone like that from? hardware, rubbershop?

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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2008, 12:37:31 pm »
I love custom handsticks, they're more for your own benefit than an audience benefit, but they're still nice.

You seem like you have a good idea.  How is the variation in centre of mass achieved exactly?  Although a tad chunky for my tastes.  They should be stronger than Henrys aluminiums from the view that it's 12mm OD compared to 8mm OD.

Keep us posted.
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Re: Love Handles Home made hand sticks
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2008, 09:12:34 am »
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Where do you get silicone like that from? hardware, rubbershop?

the ones in the picture are off some old devil stick handles that a friend had but they are a bit too heavy.

I have ordered some rubber/foam grip and am waiting on the postman.

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How is the variation in centre of mass achieved exactly?

well i cant be giving away all my secrets, but the handle is hollow and it has  end plugs on both ends, changing the length/weight of these plugs alters the balance.

I have started working on a set with a 8mm OD.
I dont now how strong they will be, but they should be really light.

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