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Marijn

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Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« on: June 29, 2008, 09:55:19 am »
Here is a quick,little slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (still not sure about the name of the trick to be honest ::)). I'd had some questions about the trick so on a lazy day I decided to put a little video together. It isn't a very complete or ''indept'' tutorial but maybe it can clearify some things for people who want to learn the trick. (And Windows Movie Maker stinks!)

[Diabolo Tutorial] Slowcide mini-genocides (watching in ''high quality mode'' improves the quality quite a lot)
(http://www.juggling.tv/vaults/view_video.php?viewkey=34354ac209f53d90c3a4)

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 03:35:03 pm »
Man you got skills! :) Nice tutorial. I'm still too lazy to spend time on controlling my wraps (in wrapped mini g's).

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2008, 04:07:39 pm »
Thanks Marijn. The text is very useful... it's like having someone there with you telling you all the little unspoken secrets to learning a trick.

I think I'll finally put some time into getting those down solid.

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2008, 04:18:57 pm »
that was a very good tutorial, it explored a lot of ideas and  came at the trick from many angles, thanks.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2008, 10:20:16 pm »
wow i thought i wwas quite gd

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2008, 11:06:21 pm »
thanks, that was a really nice and helpful tutorial =] ill have to try some of those.

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2008, 09:26:07 pm »
nice tutorial, ever tried the switch one with continious left ones?

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2008, 09:35:41 am »
Thanks! You already showed me the other day how to do it, but the tutorial clarifies it and explains it step by step: so it's a great help. :)

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 05:06:51 am »
Hello,
it's a really great tutorial!

Can I ask a question?
How can I start continuous minigenocide(step by step)? I've watched Tim Ellis' tutorial and your continuous minigenocide, I found that there seems a little differnet, and i've also read the continouous minigenocide topic on the forum, but i am still not quite understand it.

Could you please explain how to start continuous minigenocide(step by step, please)?

Thank you.

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 10:27:12 pm »
This trick needs a new name, in my opinion, a Slowcide Mini-Genocide implies to me a slowcide with well a mini-genocide after, rather this is just a left back wrap continuous mini genocide with a stick swap in the middle, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 12:22:21 pm »
Can we just say wrapped miniG? Or wrap miniG. Names are overrated.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 01:14:39 pm »
Can we just say wrapped miniG? Or wrap miniG.
I agree - I think you can do a slowcide and then a wrapped mini-genocide, but these are 2 different tricks and we're talking about the wrapped mini-genocide part.

It really is unfortunate we're stuck with the names suicide, genocide etc... but I suppose that's been beaten into the ground already. I'm amazed the name vertax has started to stick.

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 11:47:23 pm »
well, i only say this particular trick because i see absolutely no slowcide... unless doing a right back wrap stick release counts as one.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2008, 03:12:46 pm »
I'm glad to hear that the tutorial has been/is helpful.

Slowcide mini-genocides is a dull name indeed.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2008, 04:22:55 pm »
sorry for my negative feedback about the name, it is a bit o/t

I would also like to let you know that the tut helped me clear up what that trick was since I did it before and totally had know idea what it was called just "that trick i saw gt do in short and long," also helped out with slowing the trick down so i could see it done much more easily
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2008, 06:10:41 pm »
SUCH a fun trick to do.  I love stringing these together.  Some great entry ideas there Marijn.

I do agree with Moffett in that I don't see a Slowcide in there.  Maybe I'm wrong in my understanding that Slowcides start wrapped and the result is unwrapped?  The trick before the mini's is like....an easy suicide (I think I heard it once called that)

A possibly more fun name is Infinite Mini-Genocides?  It seems to have a similar rhythm to regular Infinite Suicides.  I never knew what to call it either, always came out as "that trick where you do a wrapped mini, and before catching the stick, throw the other one down and do another mini."  But that's a mouthful.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2008, 06:23:18 pm »
Just to be sure, I read somewhere that this is what the trick is called, not my idea ::) Something like infinite mini-genocides is much cooler and more logical.

Finding entries is cool indeed, I got some much cooler ones ^^
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 05:47:23 pm »
yeah, infinite mini genocides is the right name! ;)
but btw, nice tutorial though I could already do them.... :D
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2008, 05:57:52 pm »
Tutorial is super. I´m going outside right now to learn those ;D.

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2008, 12:48:59 am »
I'm not stupendously good at them do they accelerate the diabolo? if not infinite doesn't work
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2008, 02:09:13 am »
do they accelerate the diabolo?
Yes. As long as there's not too much fumbling in the middle (and clean technique throughout) you can keep them going forever.

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2008, 04:20:49 am »
Well then I think Infinite Mini-Genocides is the new name!
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2008, 01:15:04 pm »
Sorry to bump the thread,

I've been looking all over this site for (i think it's called) an 'Integral' tutorial and i noticed at the end of the vid (2min 45) that there was one, I 've been trying to replicate this but the diabolo leaves the sting much like a 'mini-gen' and some times i even catch it like a 'mini-gen' but it's not consistant and not what i'm after.  I can get into the 'Integral' and start the stick rotation but after that.........Failure.

It's been said many times already, great tutorial mate, only if the rain would stay off, i know what my main trick to master this summer.

Keep up the good work.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2008, 05:24:34 pm »
thanks...
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you gave me more motivation to do it...
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2009, 10:35:28 am »
Sorry for bumping this quite old topic again, but I need help.

I liked the tutorial really much, but I was missing a explanation for controling the wrap after a mini gen. I am able to do that trick, but my problem is, that I always got a left wrap after a genocide, and that makes the trick (and many others) a lot harder.
So can anybody explain how to control it?
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2009, 11:22:47 am »
Thanks for the tutorial Marjin, i've put these off long enough so i'm gonna give them a try!

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2009, 07:47:14 pm »
The vid mentions it's usefull to learn continious mini-genocides first. Where do I find a tutorial for that?

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2009, 10:06:15 pm »
Check on youtube for Tim Ellis, he's got some really good tutorials on there!

I'm still having trouble, i can't seem to get the stick to come round fast enough for the re-capture, can anyone help me out? :embarassed:
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2009, 09:44:02 am »
The Tim Ellis Tutorial isn't very useful for me, are there some others for this trick?

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2009, 07:34:57 pm »
What part of the trick are you having problems with?
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2009, 07:30:29 pm »
swinging the stick around. it gets either tangeled and if not it's way too slow

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2009, 09:35:23 pm »
this helped me good tutorial
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2009, 04:39:19 pm »
Is there a link missing?

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2009, 01:12:16 pm »
Is that when you do the slowicide part Cheruzan?
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2009, 10:58:27 am »
At the continous mini-genocides he explains at the start of the vid

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2009, 06:43:40 pm »
Ok... Not sure which part you mean so will write a walk-through...

This is for the left side!

1. Put a left back-wrap on the diabolo,

2. Let go of the right stick and pull up and towards you on the left handstick,

3. As the stick and string come back round to 12 o'clock pull up on the string coming from the left stick,

4. The diabolo will pop up in the air, the stick will un-wrap and then recapture the diabolo

5. The catch of the stick is with your right hand but kinda underneath the left arm

6. You then let go of the right stick and return to step 3!
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2009, 10:27:26 pm »
I might re-make this tutorial in the near future, when I have vacation. Better camera, better angles, Sony Vegas Pro instead of WMM, etc. This one is a little too ugly for my onw taste... :P
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2009, 12:08:39 am »
With some more Ronald Jenkees! :-D
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2009, 03:54:23 am »
With some more Ronald Jenkees! :-D

yeah, how did you get that mp3 though, i didnt think he had released that album yet.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2009, 10:27:01 pm »
There are always ways and means... not that diabolo.ca would condone any illegal ones i'm sure!
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2009, 10:48:58 pm »
yeah, how did you get that mp3 though, i didnt think he had released that album yet.
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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2009, 12:27:31 pm »
Does the string that will be released have to pass the other string at the back? when the wrap is in such a way that he should pass between me and the hindmost string, it always tangles.

thanks in advance

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Re: Slowcide mini-genocide tutorial (Infinite mini-genocides)
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2009, 10:45:01 pm »
A pm in Dutch would be better ;)
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