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ThermoTubbie

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Problems with the burning liquid for fire diabolos
« on: April 08, 2005, 04:06:01 pm »
Hi,
At first I am German and I would be happy if you try to understand my "strange" English ;) and try to help me :P

I bought the Nesbitt fire diabolo, but my problem is I don't know what fluid I should use. I tried it with something which is for oil lamps. The flame burned max. 20sec strong and then get quickly smaller.. :(

What do you use ?
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Monregi

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2005, 04:10:40 pm »
I use kerosene

ThermoTubbie

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2005, 04:18:40 pm »
Hi,
sry do you mean that which aircraft used (little problems with translation...)?
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barnesy

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2005, 04:21:02 pm »
Kerosene is also known as paraffin (and probably some other names), and is the fuel that I think fire diabolos are designed for.  ThermoTubbie, how much fuel are you putting on?  I can think of two reasons for the poor results: 1) Not enough fuel, or 2) Fire diabolos just don't seem to be all that good!  

Good luck with getting better results.

PS  Your english seems fine to me!

Monregi

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2005, 05:49:45 pm »
I don´t know how is it called in UK or in US, but I use the kerosene wich is made to use in stoves.

seán_

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2005, 06:07:46 pm »
Kerosene/Parrafin also came up in the thread about cleaning diabolos

http://www.brownoil.com/msdskerosene.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene

remember when using fire to be carefull
Never fire juggle when intoxicated!
Always have somebody around you trust to keep a cool head and be able to help in case something goes wrong.
keep your fuel in an apropriate container, out of way.
Have plenty of water to hand, a damp towel to put out fires and a dry  one to mop up spills.
do not wear artifical clothes that will catch fire
be very comfortable with your props.
shake (or spin off) your props before lighting away from people and in an appropriate place.
be aware of where other people are.
when getting used to fire try it in daylight, then at dusk.
Never use petrol/gasoline!

if anyone has a good link to a good firejuggling safety site let us know

Ed

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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2005, 06:12:24 pm »

ThermoTubbie

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2005, 06:54:36 pm »
Quote from: barnesy
Kerosene is also known as paraffin (and probably some other names), and is the fuel that I think fire diabolos are designed for.

Ok
 ;) I look in a dictionary and found that Kerosene is petroleum, if Kerosene is paraffin, too. Then I know where to get it :) thx !!!

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ThermoTubbie, how much fuel are you putting on?  I can think of two reasons for the poor results: 1) Not enough fuel, or 2) Fire diabolos just don't seem to be all that good!  

hmm...
I think it was enough, but I will try it again

@ seán_ & Ed
thx for your instructions ;)

I will keep it in mind !!!
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barnesy

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2005, 06:59:53 pm »
Well it's distilled from petroleum.  But definitely listen to what seán_ said - never use the fuel known as petrol or gasoline.  It's far more dangerous.

seán_

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2005, 07:25:41 pm »
What Barnesy said

ThermoTubbie, I suggest you check out a German juggling forum or website(s) for some advice. Also it is a good Idea to learn some fire craft from other jugglers, Preferably ones that appear to be taking the precautions I mentioned above. When done properly fire juggling is great but it is nothing to take lightly.

the lampoil you have been using is parrafin that has been refined further and had a scent added, the chances are that this is a reason for shorter 'burns' the Parrafin that we have been talking about is the stuff peple use in those old lamps, it should be available from hardware stores. But I repeat be sure you have the right information, preferably in German.

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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2005, 09:10:04 pm »
What Séan said, do be careful, expecially with a fire diabolo, they roll away easily.
It's called paraffin or kerosene depending (in the UK it's called paraffin).  You get them from DIY stores used in outdoor heaters.  I also suggest getting in contact with some fire jugglers in person so you can see what they use and how they do things.  As for not having long burn times, maybe you're not putting enough on and maybe not leaving it to soak long enough.  Put enough on till it just starts leaking out, then shake it off.

Difficult to do many tricks with fire diabolos, do a search in the forum for other tricks with fire diabolos.

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ThermoTubbie

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2005, 03:56:08 pm »
Hi,
many thx to you, I think/hope I got the right liquid. I will test it tonight  :P

..other jugglers
I also want to train with other jugglers but the problems is I found no one who is near to me :( I searched for other websites and forums but found only sites with tricks and no "good" forums.
I found a German diabolo juggler over ICQ, but it can't be wrong to know more ;) so I try to learn here some tricks, too :)
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woras

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2006, 01:19:02 am »
hi
I just make my secound fire dibolo
first was iron but every drop connect to damages
now I take henrys jazz and some lid jares and of course
some kevlar(25cm long x 2,5cmwide by side)

I use paraffin and i get 30secounds big fire and about 1min smoler and smoler i knew that more spin gives MORE FIRE but les time

my question is:
get more kevlar?
try to cover to reduce splash?
some others?

please write your firediabolo time

Crazy_Clown

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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2006, 10:23:53 am »
Quote from: woras
hi
I just make my secound fire dibolo


Can we see a picture please?????
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