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zwiggelbig

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Street diaboloing
« on: November 01, 2008, 08:09:05 pm »
Hey, I'd like to go out on the street in a big town to diabolo and put a hat infront of me  :-D Like a guy who plays guitar but everyone does that so I would like to diabolo.

But I don't dare it yet though ... Anyways anyone of you has some experience with this? And did you even got money? ( I'm just putting the hat their for fun its not all about the money =P ) and do you need some sort of license if you want to do that?


Marijn

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 08:48:25 pm »
It depends on the city you plan to do it. In Utrecht for instance it is allowed, with few restricitons (all reasonable in my opinion):

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Artikel 16 Straatartiest e.d.
1. Het is verboden om op de weg alsmede openbaar water ten behoeve van het publiek
op te treden als straatmuzikant:
- tussen 23.00 en 08.00 uur;
- met elektronische of mechanische versterking;
- binnen een straal van 100 meter van ziekenhuizen, verpleeghuizen, scholen
waarin les wordt gegeven, kerken op tijdstippen waarop daarin
godsdienstoefeningen worden gehouden, begraafplaatsen en rouwaula’s;
- langer dan vijftien minuten achtereen op dezelfde plaats, waarbij een locatie
binnen 100 meter als dezelfde plaats wordt beschouwd.


And this:

Artikel 16 Straatartiest
De activiteiten van de straatartiest, straatmuzikant, straatfotograaf, tekenaar, filmoperateur en
gids vallen onder de werking van artikel 7, derde lid, van de Grondwet. Elke uiting van een
gedachte of een gevoelen, ongeacht de intenties of motieven van degene die zich uit, wordt door
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artikel 7 van de Grondwet beschermd. Artikel 7, derde lid, van de Grondwet laat door zijn
formulering (niemand heeft voorafgaand verlof nodig wegens de inhoud), een verbod toe voor
andere aspecten van de uiting dan de inhoud, zoals bij voorbeeld de verspreiding. Het is bij de
genoemde activiteiten echter moeilijk te scheiden tussen inhoud en verspreiding. Immers, het
verbieden van een optreden van een straatartiest op een bepaalde plaats houdt in veel gevallen
ook in dat de inhoud van het optreden niet kan worden geuit.
Om deze reden is het optreden als straatartiest in beginsel vrij gelaten, zij het met enige
beperkingen.

In Amsterdam for instance, there are far more restricitons, usually a license is needed.

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Als u in Amsterdam als straatartiest wilt optreden of muziek ten gehore wilt brengen, hebt u een vergunning nodig.
Op sommige plekken mogen straatartiesten hun kunsten niet vertonen. De gemeente wijst de tijden waarop en de plaatsen waar optredens zijn verboden aan (zoals zeer drukke plaatsen in de binnenstad). Voor de overige locaties en tijden is een vergunning nodig.
De bedoelde activiteiten zijn die van bijvoorbeeld mimespelers, goochelaars, jongleurs, muziek- en zanggroepen, straattekenaars en theatergroepen.

Do some google-ing is my suggestion --> *gemeente utrecht straatartiest* for instance does the job.

Oh and I did it once on Queensday, nearly €70 in 2 hours ;)
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Hector 641

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 08:50:53 pm »
yes as many people said to me, you need a license, but who cares?  :-D
When i played one time in Munich, the police saw me playing diabolo and they haven´t said anything. They also clapped and watch my freestyle for like 10 min  :-D

And for making money, you should make a show and not just play around and hope someone give you a dollar. I come up with that when i was in Munich.
I have just played around a bit and the people didn´t gave me some money, in the end i had 8 euros for playing 1 hour

zwiggelbig

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 08:58:53 pm »

And for making money, you should make a show and not just play around and hope someone give you a dollar. I come up with that when i was in Munich.
I have just played around a bit and the people didn´t gave me any money, in the end i had 8 euros for playing 1 hour
But if you make a show.. Do you just repeat it all the time? =\ I would just fool around a bit but not practicing things I can't do yet..

And to Marijn. Alright thanks! I will do that and we'll see.

But don't you feel kinda umcomfortable while doing diabolo on street? Somehow I do..  I'll let you know how it went =)

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 09:01:29 pm »
no i don´t mean you should make a routine and repeat it always, i mean you should play a bit with the crowd and not just do your tricks, william is the best example for that what i mean

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 07:33:48 pm »
Hehe, I used to make some money with this. When it got dark, i just took some music and grabbed my led Finesses and went out to the street, and did some improvising. I think normal people dont understand actually anything about diaboloing, I mean they dont know if something is really hard and complicated even if it doesnt look cool. Suns and some fast suicides were enough to earn like 50-55 euros for about 1,5 hours of easy play. :p

Will G

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 08:10:47 pm »
It's called busking and in a couple hours I made bout £25. It was for charity though

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 01:08:58 am »
lol in america it's considered "free speech" so totally legal on all public places too a point ofc ;)
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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 10:17:36 pm »
i diabolo on the street for work! do it outside a skill toys shop, its pretty fun. i wear a shop tee and dont put a hat down, but ive had a few quid thrown into my finnesse before haha.
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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 08:46:47 am »
lol in america it's considered "free speech" so totally legal on all public places too a point ofc ;)

Also in The Netherlands ;)
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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 11:04:47 pm »
I have asked for a License! But they are doing hard.. I must give up specific times and days and where I want to do it..

Well I got the where I want to do it. And its legal to do it on that place.. But times and days I dunno =| I just want to do it when I feel like it..

Could be once a month or more.. I don't really know

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2008, 04:06:33 am »
So the city I moved to college for allows street performing. I tried it last weekend with a friend and it was pretty fun. I only made $2.75 for like an hour with a hat and on a somewhat busy street.

Street performing is harder than I thought(and I need more experience witht his too), but some things I tried to do while performing on a sidewalk was do the tricks I hardly ever drop, have some music, and make eye contact/greet people walking by.

ps: haha, and... dont do suicide tricks over your hat unless someone is trying to steal your money :P
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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2008, 12:37:52 pm »
well , i often perform on the street  , and i get like 30 euro an hour , even when i'm just practising tricks! if it suceeds al the people clap and give you money , not bad for some cash , while practising and having fun !

i starded doing that when i was 14!
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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2009, 09:37:18 am »
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well , i often perform on the street  , and i get like 30 euro an hour , even when i'm just practising tricks! if it suceeds al the people clap and give you money , not bad for some cash , while practising and having fun !

Haha, I need to start doing that (practice in public). Extra cash is always good and it sounds easy if it´s just like practing for fun ;). Over here it seems you are avoiding taxes for labor when doing streetperformaces so not sure how legal it is even though people are doing it. Has anyone had any big problems with authority for doing it?

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 12:17:02 pm »
in Britain at least you certainly need a license... oh, and don't try and work in Covent Garden (the famous performers square in London), cause they'll just say "we already have a juggler" and decline you :P (my dad used to work there as a street artist, he really struggled to get in... the only reason he did is cause his type of art was unique... i'm afraid diaboloing isn't that unique >.<) 

one thing that must be noted is that socialising with the audience is much more important than having skill or talent :P be funny, and it doesn't matter if you fail a trick so long as you don't hurt anyone :) so yeah, just go out there and do it, see what happens XD

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 06:31:08 pm »
I practice across the road in the churchyard, it's got a big bit of concrete so smooth and dry, people seem to be impressed when they notice me. I would practice in my garden but I live in the UK so the grass is wet just about non stop. By the way, no ,I don't practice near the gravestones.

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2009, 10:38:26 pm »
I didnt do it in big towns, but in my town in germany, I nearly play every saturday on the market.  Most of the people who watch me are surprised. Some of them haven´t heard about a diabolo at all, so they often ask me: "What is that/ where can I buy it/ where can i learn it? Its a good feeling to show the peorsons the "World of diabolo"

The hardest thing is to ignore peoples bad face, or when it falls down some of them say:" Ha, you still have to practise much" Then I normally ignore them because I know, most of the people are interested in diaboloing.
The people like most 2/3d high with 360s or suns they love to see the diabolo up in the air.

Money? Its not bad,I normaly play about one hour and if there are many people in the town, I  get about 20 €. Thats quite much for me.

Kids are most interrested in diabolos, they often say:"Mum, look what this guy does....

I never asked about a license in my town I just did it. And now im already doing it for over one year and nobody said anything. :-D

I hope this helps you  a bit... ;) But you should know that for me money isn´t the most important thing. Its to show people a really cool thing: The Diabolo.

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2009, 04:09:52 pm »
I actually did it and it was well worth it.  I did it the for a couple hours(with breaks).  I got about 10 bucks. ::)
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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2009, 05:39:11 pm »
I actually did it and it was well worth it.  I did it the for a couple hours(with breaks).  I got about 10 bucks. ::)
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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2009, 06:38:06 pm »
My friend and and I were diaboling outside this restaurant last week, performing for money. The crowd loved 2d high and elevators. We made about 10 bucks, when a guy comes out and says "This is federal property kids! You can't perform for money!" :'(

If you are performing in a farmers market, or outside a store, you might want to ask the guy who owns it first.

"You can either beg for permission or beg for forgiveness"

We had a good time though!  :-D

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2009, 04:11:58 am »
i've done that a few times its pretty good pay... were i did it i got 40 in one hour the first time.

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2009, 08:02:52 am »
i've done that a few times its pretty good pay... were i did it i got 40 in one hour the first time.

Correction we made $40 in TWO hours. Still thats pretty decent since in the area we live in no lincense is needed for all of our major busking area's.

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2009, 04:28:44 pm »
because this site has lots of people from lots of countrys im going to ask in a year or two i will be back packing / traverling from england to austrailia and was woundering if you know about licences for other countrys and if there are any good stops along the way that would make a couple of £ $ e so on i can only do one d at the moment but i am very adapt with it cheers for all who help :)
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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2009, 11:09:48 pm »
If you can find me the names of your stops I can get all of the info about licenses when I get your post. Its kind of hard to find a place with no license laws which has alot of people going past. Find a guitar busker and ask them if you need a license I think thats how I found out about up here.

Google the countrys busking laws and see if that helps if not ill recomend a few big busking sites which might know.

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Re: Street diaboloing
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2009, 08:50:16 pm »
my dad (who's been in the performing art's business for a long time now) insists that the best way to learn how to street perform is to just go out there and do it! at first you may not get anyone to watch you but you gain experience over time :)

of course, thats my dads view... MY view is that you should always have a great big smile on your face, and have a "LOOK AT MEEEE I'M AWESOME!" attitude! also, try to interact and catch the attention of passers by's ^^

the place you do it helps as well... as well as time, of course :P usually busking works a lot better when people are in the mood, like at festivals and such :)

edit: WAH I just realised i've already posted on this thread a while back! erm... moderators, is there any chance you can move this comment into my last one...? >_<