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« on: May 02, 2005, 06:44:24 pm »
It is a little early, but i was wondering if anyone here is planning on going to the IJA this year, espically anyone from the Mad French Posse?

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The 2005 IJA Juggling festival is in Davenport, Iowa — July 18‑24
http://www.juggle.org/
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2005, 07:41:50 pm »
Also, if people are going, maybe we could create some sort of diabolo competition or contest. My idea: Fan battles, 2 people on opposite sides start fans and then start walking toward each other and try to knock one of the diabolos out of the fan?
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 07:56:07 pm »
i will be going, i'll see ya there.

There is a main diabolo competition, but i like games aswell.

Anyone that is going wanna share a room with me? I have booked my room and if anyone wants to pay half the price then they are welcome to share. Drop me a PM or an e-mail.

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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2005, 09:27:09 pm »
Cheers Folks
So is there coming a IJA 2005 Video ?
the 2004 video was too cool so i want to see more.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2005, 09:32:09 pm »
yes, its cheap if you pre-order it with your convention package.

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2005, 02:26:34 am »
i am going to the IJA. it should be cool, and it's my first festival. CM -- You go to my school and are in 4th & 5th period with me :D
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2005, 09:37:49 pm »
Ok.........
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2005, 10:03:23 pm »
dude cm i shall fan battle you all day long

and i'll show you how to do the s-fan so maybe you can beat me
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2005, 10:21:25 pm »
Is it possible to win a game of fan combat?  I would think that both fans would break down if they came in contact.

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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2005, 11:46:10 pm »
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Is it possible to win a game of fan combat?  I would think that both fans would break down if they came in contact.




brian i believe it is
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2005, 02:48:01 am »
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Is it possible to win a game of fan combat?

 :twisted: Let's play and find out :twisted:
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2005, 09:22:35 pm »
Well, since we're on the topic, has anyone thought of any diabolo games you could play with a few people? (not high toss contest)
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2005, 11:13:45 am »
CM theres a few posts (usually in convention posts) about possible games, its worth a search through them (the sheffield one had a lot I think).

Some games I have come across.
two diabolo gladiators (worked really well in Perth in public when we were given time to do some tricks first, JGherkin won using an sfan)
long distance passing (with one or multiple)
longest infinite suicide
diabolo in a box (either on the floor or on someones head)
most piros or skips under a high throw
pushing a diabolo with your nose race (not a big fan of this but can be fun)
Cheesiest string climb (needs judging, not to be played against Barnesy or Dave P)

Hopefully some of these could go down well at the IJA

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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2005, 12:59:58 pm »
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Well, since we're on the topic, has anyone thought of any diabolo games you could play with a few people? (not high toss contest)


I was thinking of a way to play this game indoors. The best idea I had was to sees who could get into a stick grind, throw, and catch in a grind again. Unless the ceiling is REALLY low you probably wouldn't hit it. Another vatiation for higher ceilings or outside is a high throw from the string onto a handstick grind.

Might be fun.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2005, 07:56:00 pm »
Sorry, where will it be held?

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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2005, 08:46:16 pm »
The 2005 IJA Juggling festival is in Davenport, Iowa — July 18‑24

http://www.juggle.org/

(could do with being in the first post :) )

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2005, 09:04:55 pm »
i should have mentioned that earlier
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2005, 09:08:10 pm »
So, if I go there, will someone please help me learn 2D?  Nobody has replied to my cry for help in the starting and learning 2D thread!   :cry:

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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2005, 11:45:14 pm »
I'm sure somebody would help you learn 2D, like Matt Hall or any Diaboloist would be happy to.  If I learn how to do 2 before I go I'll help you.   Also, will you be going this year Luke?

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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2005, 08:52:43 pm »
Hey man, we have a ful half dozen two diabolo jugglers in our club going this year, we will be happy teach you two and swap tricks.  It'll be good times for sure.

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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2005, 11:54:04 am »
Why don't you try learning to do 2 diabolos from this forum and diabolotricks.com       I did.
Or have you tried it already?

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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2005, 03:11:50 pm »
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I'm sure somebody would help you learn 2D, like Matt Hall or any Diaboloist would be happy to.  If I learn how to do 2 before I go I'll help you.   Also, will you be going this year Luke?


Going to the IJA festival? In Iowa?!?!

I don't think so. Unless someone gives me a few thousand dollars for no reason. And then if I had to spend it on a trip to America I'd go to the WJF instead.
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2005, 05:20:59 pm »
I did try and I am still trying to learn from every possible source I can.  I must have some fundamental flaw in my technique.  I can never get more than two rotations.  :(

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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2005, 03:19:11 pm »
Going to the IJA?  Sadly not, even though it is time for my five yearly visit (Vegas 95, Montreal 2000).  At least I got to the British this year, which was only the third time in 10 years.  Must be working too hard.

Donald

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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2005, 01:39:55 am »
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Going to the IJA festival? In Iowa?!?!

I don't think so. Unless someone gives me a few thousand dollars for no reason. And then if I had to spend it on a trip to America I'd go to the WJF instead.


I thought it would be worth a shot since you went last year.  Unfortunately, I didn't go last year, but I am going this year.  I might try to make it to the WJF as well.

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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2005, 02:10:22 pm »
So the individual prop competition scores from the IJA are up. Assuming this was the same as last year, the diabolo competition was a 1 diabolo competition. This years results are:

1st Matt Hall 45.3
2nd Ryo Yabe 44.7
3rd Brian Gadomiski 32.9

So, congratulations Matt, and great job Brian... anyone care to fill in the details of this event?

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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2005, 02:36:52 pm »
Man, Matt Hall was ruling on those competitions.  Didn't even know he did devilstick.  Who judges the competitions?  Is is different people for different props, and if so who did the diabolo comp?

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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2005, 01:38:21 pm »
Yeh, nice one Matt, beating Ryo must have fealt good, and winning boxes aswell as a couple 2nds and 3rds, rock on.

Also big up to Ryo for winning the individuals, definately would like to see that routine (aslong as its different from last year)

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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2005, 04:50:00 pm »
Greetings,  does anyone have a runndown of the championship routines?
Terry

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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2005, 04:54:41 pm »
oh on the indiviuals note... anyone film the 3 club, diabolo, 6clubs or any other comp? (or ofcourse Ryo's routine from the seniors) and want to share it? I dont have the money for the 'highlight'* DVD but i do have the tme to download a highlights** video


*they wont show whole routine from the diabolo/3 club comp unless they won.
** you will  :wink:

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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2005, 05:06:24 pm »
I like your attitude nor. time for some sreious dling methinks.

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« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2005, 05:25:02 pm »
Hey guys!

Thanks for all the positive comments--I assure you any resemblence to me is purely coincidental.  

If you want to read a longer post by me, check out the IJA discussion forum.  

Also, I wanted to let you know that the word is that the Props Competition is going to be made into its own DVD for sale.  Full routines by the top 3 competitors as well as highlights of other routines.  Cool, eh?

Save your pence, Norbi!  (By the way, slammin' WJF video)

I'm doing a full-on hard core 2 diabolo routine at Renegade tonight and I've got 4 workshops to teach today, including Excalibur and Diabolo Jam session.

Gotta run!  

Matt

PS  The Japanese Rule!!

PPS  Luke, I read your (and Little Paul's posts) on rec.juggling.  Excalibur has been around awhile, it's just that NO ONE in North America (excepting those lucky few who have been to an EJC or met Andy P.) has EVER seen it before.  Weird, eh?  Not the first time the Yanks have been behind the curve on something cool, eh?  I have a feeling it just got popular.  Yabe did 2 continuous excalibur genocides in his routine, as well as around the legs (yes, around the legs.  You have to see it)
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« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2005, 05:47:02 pm »
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... longer post ...IJA discussion forum.  

... word is that the Props Competition is ... its own DVD for sale.  Full routines ... top 3 ... highlights..other routines.  

Save your pence, Norbi!  (By the way, slammin' WJF video)

...full-on hard core ... Renegade... I've got 4 workshops t...including Excalibur and Diabolo Jam ...

PS  The Japanese Rule!!

PPS  ...  Yabe did 2 continuous excalibur genocides in his routine, as well as around the legs (yes, around the legs.  You have to see it)



This post was longer, i swear.

DVD sounds good, wonder what kind of price we're looking at.

Save my pennies? To do that i would download stuff, i guess you just mean not to get the highlights DVD and just get props. Thanx about the vid, sorry for no diabolo, it just didnt seem to fit.

Good luck on renegade (film it) and have fun in the workshops

PS Yes they really do

PPS WOW, yeh we need to see it, so show us. Someone unnofficial must have had a camera  :wink:

Take it easy

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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2005, 11:27:40 pm »
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PPS WOW, yeh we need to see it, so show us. Someone unnofficial must have had a camera  :wink:
Long live the freedom of information that is the Internet.  (i don't have it unfortunately)

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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2005, 01:08:15 pm »
...and showing that a diabolist can take on the big boys of traditional juggling with nothing but diabolos, Ryo Yabe won gold in the individual championships.

Congratulations Yabe-san!

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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2005, 07:55:07 pm »
so in that case, what is the difference between the props competition and the individual competition?

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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2005, 08:24:26 pm »
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PPS  Luke, I read your (and Little Paul's posts) on rec.juggling.  Excalibur has been around awhile, it's just that NO ONE in North America (excepting those lucky few who have been to an EJC or met Andy P.) has EVER seen it before.  Weird, eh?  Not the first time the Yanks have been behind the curve on something cool, eh?  I have a feeling it just got popular.  Yabe did 2 continuous excalibur genocides in his routine, as well as around the legs (yes, around the legs.  You have to see it)



I know it is really new in america. It was really weird turning up at the Rochester convention this year... and I was the best diaboloist there! That has never happened to me at a juggling convention, ever.

The Vertax in the show went down a storm.... but then again, so did the string climb.
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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2005, 06:58:39 am »
IJA rocked!  There was some great diaboloing with Matt and Ryo putting down some great stuff expecially.  Hopefully some videos will show up of some of the "flava".  My Diabolo highlights were:
      Ryo winning the stage championships with awxsome three stuff and inverse and standard excali.
      Matt's jam session and workshop (he did alot of stuff).
      CM and Web's youth showcase performance (featuring a clean s-fan, knot stealing, and lots of drops (wait, who am I to talk))
      Competing against Matt and Ryo (guess how that turned out).
      Alex Z in renegade (double sprinkler 720 out).

Matt_:
The indivdual competition is the Main IJA Competition.  It is a stage performace competition, so judges rate performances on an arbitrary scale factoring in technical difficulty and performance.  

The individual prop competition is a more sport style competition which features an attempted point based judging system.  Its a nice concept but there are some flaws.
1: Matt beat Ryo
2: Matt beat Daymont
3: Luke beat Vova
4: Not enough people enter.

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« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2005, 02:10:05 pm »
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The individual prop competition is a more sport style competition which features an attempted point based judging system.  Its a nice concept but there are some flaws.
1: Matt beat Ryo
2: Matt beat Daymont
3: Luke beat Vova
4: Not enough people enter.


1. yes something's wrong (no offence Matt, i think you'll agree)
2. as above
3. could that not have been down to the fact that Luke is infacnt arguably the best 3 club juggler around at the moment? Ok, so you prefer sports juggling to european juggling, but come on, admit it, Luke rocks and is far more inventive than Vova will ever be.

just a thought.

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« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2005, 05:44:55 pm »
Hi everyone,

No offense taken.  I thought I would be second as well.  I talked to Scotty Meltzer, Bill Gilliland, and Dan Holzman (not recently, but last year) at different times about it.  Dan set up the competition so folks could show 2 minutes of high quality prop mastery.  The judging system they set up penalizes drops fairly heavily.  The basic message as I heard it was something like "You should be able to keep your stuff off the floor for 2 minutes, even if you're trying for some burly stuff. It's not the 3 ball open."  

With that in mind, I had zero drops in diabolo to Yabe's one drop.  I had 2 drops in boxes to Daymont's 3 or 4.  The same thing happened last year.  I had 3 drops to Yabe's 1 drop last year.  Two of the judges from last year told me I would have won last year with 2 or 1 drops.  

Funny how it works out, eh?  I mean, we could go over each trick I did versus each trick Daymont/Yabe did and try and figure it out, but what's the point?  I give them respect and they give me respect.  It's all good.  

Make no mistake.  I needed the money (bought Lisa a 1+carat diamond wedding ring). I was stoked to win the money, but I would have entered even if the first prize was a set of poi.  We do it for the love and we do it because we want to measure ourselves against the best, right?  

Peace,

Matt

PS  St. Ignatius--great stuff this week.  I'm very impressed.
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« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2005, 06:26:17 pm »
Fair enough I guess, there is definitely respect flowing throughout, which is commendable.  But how awesome is that!?  You do what you love to do, you win, you get prize money, and you manage to buy a ring for your wife with a diamond the size of a racoon's brain that you bought with the money you won doing what you love!  That is just the absolute American (or anywhere infact) Dream!  Maybe my girlfriend would like juggling more if it bought her pretty things...

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« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2005, 09:41:20 pm »
Hey matt, I was on the phone with Rory every day at least once during IJA, and when he told me you beat Ryo, I meant to have him give you mad props from me, but forgot to with all that he was telling me.  I know I speak for both Rory and Myself when I tell you that we look up to you both as a Juggler/Diabolist and as a person of good character.  Sadly, i missed jugglefest here in Austin so I havnt met you yet.  That aside, congrats, and hope to see you here in February.

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« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2005, 10:46:19 pm »
Hey Norbi.  Luke Wilson is an amazing club juggler.  His stuff is really inventive and visually interesting (not to mention difficult).  I just don't see how Vova could lose as his routine was flawless except for one broken combination.

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« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2005, 03:52:26 pm »
maybe the judges are bored of seeing Vova do 720s into alberts and would rather see something new and interesting.

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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2005, 04:32:09 pm »
:D
Guess thats a better explanation than I have.

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« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2005, 03:03:56 pm »
Anyone know who this diaboloist in the cascade of stars show is? Check the pictures before and after this one for more. Does North America have a female diabolo star that I'm not aware of?

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« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2005, 03:43:09 pm »
Meike Fromm, possibly? (not to be confused with Maike Aerden/Venus)  I've not seen her for several years if it is her, but that's who I first thought it might be.

edit -  Confused rambling snipped :)

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« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2005, 05:02:42 pm »
Hi everyone,

I'm pretty sure Barnsey's right on this one.  I met her in Seattle this year, where she performed her club routine.  She introduced herself as having a Japanese name, "Mika", but I suspect it's the pronunciation of her German name Meike.  She is German, that much I'm sure.  She hung out with Lisa, Mick (of Dew Drop Jugglers), Kirstin, Sam and me on our little patch o' carpet in the gym.  She always needed my diabolo wrenches for her Renegades, which kept falling apart.  Luckily, that didn't happen onstage.  I actually didn't watch her act too much because Jay's ensemble piece was on next and we were all backstage being hyper.  We heard the Renegades hitting the stage from time to time....and I did see her put 3 up at the end for a bit.  It was a droppy night for everyone.  My ball routine....whew...ugly.  It was the perfect ironic twist that right after I had stunk it up onstage solo, they make me go out and accept the Peoples Choice.  I felt like asking for a recount  :oops:

So, Meike is here in the U.S. presently, and I believe she's based in New York and has recently finished the credentialing process to become a public school teacher and/or substitute.  Congrats to her for joining the ranks!  

Matt

PS  On another completely different topic, how about an mpg version of that new excalibur vid Sean-san?   :D I got Yabe's one around the legs going last night.  It's tougher than it looks, but doable.
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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2006, 05:17:42 pm »
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