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Mr.D

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NEW TOPIC: Taibolo, Finesse or Circus with allround kit for 2d!
« on: January 10, 2009, 08:44:35 pm »
Hi
I own two Sundia Flys with wide bearing axles. I just started doing 2d and can shuffle, but not correct. I love the bearing axles, but find them a bit inconvenient for 2d, since they wont shuffle on their own without me pushing them around, but fall down in the middle and crash, if you get what I mean...
Thus, is it possible to do Sprinkler with two bearing diabolos?

Should I buy a pair of fixed axles (wide/narrow) for the Flys or just keep working with my wide bearing axles?
Or maybe just buy a pair of circus or some other diabolo...?

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Taibolo    OR    Finesse    OR    Circus with allround kit    for 2d ?
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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2009, 08:47:01 pm »
you can do any trick with bearing except string climbs or tricks that involve friction of the string with a wrap

sprinklers are possible and even easier with bearings

but if you are just learning 2 diabolos i recommend going with a fixed axle

Beni

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2009, 08:54:42 pm »
Fixed axles will make it 100x times easier. Bearings make it all a lot more stressful — I struggle to do even the basics.

you can do any trick with bearing except string climbs or tricks that involve friction of the string with a wrap

Some observations:

• You can't (easily) do a string climb
• Sprinklers are possible but don't last for long due to lack of friction
• RHFW knot transfer where you unwrap it with your left stick is impossible (for me at least).
• Changing the direction with a left wrap/unwrap (e.g. to start a fan) is impossible because of the ratchet.
• Single wrap accelerations can only maintained with a lot of huge flailing motions.
• String control is slightly harder but antishuffle is easier.
• Fans are harder to control (may just be me)

imo it's worth it to buy some fixed axle diabolos or fixed axle fly kits.

Beni


Ben.

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2009, 09:11:44 pm »
i find fans easier?

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2009, 09:16:29 pm »
Fans should be easier as they won't lose speed. Sprinklers will be harder as there is little friction to push the diabolo's around, which is similar to why you have to push the shuffle. Most left wrap stuff is possible with some slight tweakage of style. I would recomend getting fixed axle's for learning 2d and its nice to have some spare anyway.
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Mr.D

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2009, 11:47:10 pm »
Thanks for the quick replies.

I've decided to go fixed, but should I buy wide or narrow axles? Or new diabolos (i.e. Circus?
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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2009, 11:53:13 pm »
wide. fixed fly is a mighty fine diabolo. unless you want more anyways:)

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2009, 12:48:34 am »
i agree with funty. but if you want to shell out a little bit more i suggest taibolos. they are reduced right now (v1) and i LOVE mine
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Funty

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2009, 10:15:47 am »
dont go for tiabolos over fixed flys. though tiabolos get alot of power quickly flys hold their speed/power for much longer and in my opinion are more stable, go for tiabolos if your going for 3 because they're alot lighter.

obviously this is all personal preference but if you were going for new i'd go suns or circi or even check the most popular diab thread again which i think is finnesse by quite a way.


p.s they're both lovely diabolos but obviously my preference is the fixed fly. but i like the weight:)

Jonny_

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2009, 10:33:15 am »
 flys are less stable than taibolos but are easier to correct ive got taibolos and bearing/ fixed flys and id say taibolos are better for 2d

Funty

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2009, 10:53:52 am »
fair enough, again personal preference:) if you are to get them remember to go through diabolomoves.co.uk

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2009, 12:10:21 pm »
completely disagree with you there jonny. tiabolos are definitely less stable than flys. fact

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2009, 12:54:23 pm »
completely disagree with you there jonny. tiabolos are definitely less stable than flys. fact
agreed.
tbh i think you should try out all of the diabolos before you buy, but obviously that isn't always possible.
i'd go with circus with allround axle.

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2009, 01:05:02 pm »
I think that a bearing diabolo is the best in vertax,bodys and slackwhips
i recomend 2 diabolo and 1 diabolo(except vertax,bodys and slacks)with fixed axle (like circus,finesse or taibolo) because if you getting used to bearing axles problably you can´t do the same trick with fixed axle


pd:i have a sundia fly (vertax)2 circus(2d) taibolo(1d)

Jonny_

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2009, 02:03:22 pm »
completely disagree with you there jonny. tiabolos are definitely less stable than flys. fact

witch taibolos are you talking about

mike.

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2009, 02:35:00 pm »
witch taibolos are you talking about

Lol i agree. are you guys using a taibolo thats made from rock or something? mine are great
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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2009, 02:51:10 pm »
I never said that they aren't good diabolos or that they aren't stable...they just aren't as stable as a fly.

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2009, 05:37:26 pm »
its a weight thing surely.

the tiabolos are great diabolos but i gave mine to a friend when i got my fixed flys. but yeah you'll probably not get a straight answer from here, if you can get to a juggling club or a shop try them out before you buy:)

Mr.D

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Re: Which axle for 2d?
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2009, 08:48:22 pm »
ok thanks anyways for all the quick answers.

I think I'm gonna get 2 new diabolos, but I have to try some to know which :)
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Mr.D

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Re: NEW TOPIC: Taibolo, Finesse or Circus with allround kit for 2d!
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2009, 10:11:37 pm »
I've decided to buy new lighter diabolos with fixed axles for 2d, so my new question is:

Taibolo, Finesse or Circus with allround kit for 2d ?

taibolo (V.1) is alot cheaper, but does the prize reflect the quality...? I've seen many using finesse (often with some +weights), but does the rubbery cups make them hard to correct? What about Circus?

Share to me your opinions and tips please!
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