Author Topic: Diabolo.Ca Collab 2012 Editor (Read 3358 times)

Mediaboy13 · « **on:** May 09, 2012, 09:38:36 am »

Hi all!

Although it's only May, I thought since I have been doing more editing than filming at the moment I would like to volunteer to be the editor for this years collaberation video, if thats allright with admins, moderators and other diaboloists.
I have already been planning on how I'm going to edit (music, effects etc), is anyone else volunteering? Because I would REALLY want to be apart of a big project with other diaboloists/jugglers around the world.
If I am chosen to be the editor (I really hope I am) send your clips (3-5???) to my email (badboy_simmons@hotmail.com) and add your name, country, if you have been in a previous collab video (which one) and if you want age.
I promise that if I am the editor it would be a great video to watch with a new twist.
One last thing:
Is there an actual length to a collab video (I want it to be aound 10-15 minutes) and is there a limit of people to be in one (because I want to fit everyone in)!???

Sorry for length of post and all replys welcome!
-Alex

Scharling · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2012, 11:38:38 am »

Could you show us some stuff you've edited?

-Scharling

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2012, 11:40:16 am »

Okay over the next few days i will make an edit of various projects i have been involved with (diaboloing, juggling, stunts, skating, scooting etc).

-Alex

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:19:05 am »

Okay rather than make a completely new edit i decided i will put the links to SOME of the videos i have edited, made, etc:

Sleep With One Eye Open -
Sleep With One Eye Open - juggling videos hosted @ Juggling.tv

Club and Ring Routines (short) -
Club and Ring Routines (short) - juggling videos hosted @ Juggling.tv

****bird Newz: Top 10 of Season 2 -


****bird Newz: Top 10 of Season 2

****bird Newz REJECTED Clips -


****bird Newz REJECTED Clips

Theatre Video Trailer -


Theatre Video Trailer

Christmas Clips -


Christmas Clips

Forever The Stupidest Kids - Rusty Demons (Long Trailer) aka Our 1st full length film! -


Forever The Stupidest Kids - Rusty Demons (Long Trailer)

Forever The Stupidest Kids: Mental Mulisha - Long Trailer aka our 2nd full length film! -


Forever The Stupidest Kids: Mental Mulisha - Long Trailer

THUD -


THUD :: Ep# 1

Sleep With One Eye Open - Extras + Bonus (Mostly UNCUT and UNSEEN) -


Sleep With One Eye Open - Extras + Bonus (Mostly UNCUT and UNSEEN)

At the moment i am working on some more diabolo and juggling projects, as well as try to sell our 1st and 2nd FTSK films while filming and editing our 3rd and maintaining 3 youtube channels with weekly uploads of vlogs, skits and other stuff.

For more videos please view these links:
http://www.youtube.com/user/MediaBoy13/videos
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mediaboy132/videos
http://www.youtube.com/user/NewBreedProductions7/videos

Hope you all enjoy and that i can be the editor!!!

-Alex

diego · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2012, 01:43:21 pm »

How much has to take the video?

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2012, 01:58:41 pm »

Quote from: diego on May 12, 2012, 01:43:21 pm

How much has to take the video?

What? Sorry I don't understand.

Icebox · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2012, 04:10:17 pm »

Based on a couple of videos I watched, your music choice doesn't seem like it would be a good fit for a collaboration video. Heavy metal doesn't go over very well in diabolo videos, most people prefer some sort of electronic or laid-back rap/hip-hop.

Some of them didn't even have that much editing in them, it seemed like. Mostly just cuts from one clip to the next, except for that THUD video.

Wis · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2012, 07:50:02 pm »

I mostly agree with everything Icebox said. But I am not friend of rejecting volunteers.
I assume that you see the difference between the videos you have already made and what the diabolo.ca pals would appreciate more. And in any case you can always ask for advice to any previous editor, I am sure they'll be glad to help you.

diego · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:03:09 pm »

¿cuantos minutos tiene que durar cada video que te mandemos?, and sorry my english is basic

spryoyabe · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:56:21 pm »

Diego is asking how long do the clips we send in for the collaboration video have to be.

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2012, 06:07:58 am »

Ok, i will be less lazy and make a new edit with good tasteful music, more effects and advanced editing techniques.
I'm pretty sure that a collab clip should be maybe 10-20 seconds long roughly (although im not sure, they could be any length

), so i would say one combo per clip.

-Alex

Marijn · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2012, 10:31:48 am »

More effects, more is always better!.....

Why don't you watch the older collabs a few times and try to figure out what it is that made them so good?

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2012, 10:54:45 am »

Quote from: Marijn on May 13, 2012, 10:31:48 am

More effects, more is always better!.....

Why don't you watch the older collabs a few times and try to figure out what it is that made them so good?

Thanks

, i am now going to watch them all again. I am also working on another edit im trying to pack with effects and good-looking transitions without over doing it too much.
-Alex

Hathaway · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2012, 11:07:33 am »

Can you ever over do it with effects and transitions?

Marijn · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2012, 12:01:06 pm »

Quote from: Mediaboy13 on May 13, 2012, 10:54:45 am

Thanks , i am now going to watch them all again. I am also working on another edit im trying to pack with effects and good-looking transitions without over doing it too much.
-Alex

Actually, what I meant to say is that a powerful edit doesn't necessarily rely on a whole bunch of spacey effect. The best edits don't overdo it, it is all about finesse and feeling for the material you have on hand, the music, the pace of the edit, how everything goes along nicely etc.

maxmaestro · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2012, 08:08:19 pm »

my advice from having done the collab last year is, dont think of it as a small project. it takes ages. secondly you dont need as many transitions as i used last year. also. really push people to send things in on time because the longer you wait the harder it gets. thirdly. spend a lot of time on the names. a good effects on the names can make a big difference. dont just leave it till last minute. and check the spelling of all the names a 1000000 times. (sorry eljas)

ya thanks
max

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 14, 2012, 12:13:50 am »

Quote from: Hathaway on May 13, 2012, 11:07:33 am

Can you ever over do it with effects and transitions?

Well if they are too repetive then yes, otherwise no.

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 14, 2012, 12:21:19 am »

Quote from: maxmaestro on May 13, 2012, 08:08:19 pm

my advice from having done the collab last year is, dont think of it as a small project. it takes ages. secondly you dont need as many transitions as i used last year. also. really push people to send things in on time because the longer you wait the harder it gets. thirdly. spend a lot of time on the names. a good effects on the names can make a big difference. dont just leave it till last minute. and check the spelling of all the names a 1000000 times. (sorry eljas)

ya thanks
max

Yeah, it looks like a big project, although i have worked on projects alot bigger than this before, the only hard thing is time which is what makes this harder then previous stuff i've done. How did you get the clips? Did you get people to email them to you because thats what i was thinking about doing, if i got the part?

Thanks
-Alex

haosone · « **Reply #18 on:** May 14, 2012, 08:37:32 am »

Quote from: maxmaestro on November 21, 2011, 09:52:14 pm

To submit a video, upload it somewhere using something like Dropbox or Mediafire and then email a link to me at: collab2011 "at" diabolo.ca. Don't forget to include your name (or forum username if you'd prefer) and location.

Here you should find some usefull informations to consider Collab 2011 The Real Thing!

aaro · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2012, 02:22:26 pm »

Quote from: Icebox on May 12, 2012, 04:10:17 pm

Based on a couple of videos I watched, your music choice doesn't seem like it would be a good fit for a collaboration video. Heavy metal doesn't go over very well in diabolo videos, most people prefer some sort of electronic or laid-back rap/hip-hop.

Some of them didn't even have that much editing in them, it seemed like. Mostly just cuts from one clip to the next, except for that THUD video.

Metal or especially rock can work, its not about genres, it's about how well the edit fits with the music.

Sam 1060 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2012, 07:02:30 pm »

Quote from: aaro on May 14, 2012, 02:22:26 pm

Metal or especially rock can work, its not about genres, it's about how well the edit fits with the music.

Well if the tricks are done at a fast pace then it would. But if the tricks are performed at a slower pace then I would prefer to listen to somthing a bit easy on the ears.

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2012, 12:12:05 am »

Quote from: aaro on May 14, 2012, 02:22:26 pm

Metal or especially rock can work, its not about genres, it's about how well the edit fits with the music.

Yes i honestly agree with you, although i wasn't really going to use it in the collab anyway (if i got the part) although i know i am going to test some different varieties of music (If i am the editor) and see what fits best.

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2012, 12:18:04 am »

By the way i have almost finisised the other edit (to show my editing skills), it has alot of good effects and transitions i know most of you would enjoy

, it is a double edit (a project edited in 2 or more programs) although i'm not sure i should add music as it is only a random test edit to show what i can do. It should be uploaded by the end of the week at the latest

.

-Alex

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 28, 2012, 11:54:23 am »

Hi all again!

Sorry i haven't posted here in a while, but i finally got the edit i said i'd make. It is packed with eccfects and transitions, although of course i probably won't use this many in the collab video (if i get to be editor). This video is just show some of what i can do.

As i said in the YouTube description (if you're lazy like me

):
An edit of lots of footage from many things (as said at end) mixed with some good looking tansitions and effects.
No music, didn't know what to put + i was lazy (as usual).
This is a multi-edit.


Effects and Transitions Edit

Note - Sorry for lag, YouTub upload stuffed up O.o, also it stuffed up the credits. Here is what they said:
Clips Taken From:
FTSK Films
Vlogs
Unseen Footage
Random Things
Fun Stuff With Friends

Hope you all enjoy and that i can be editor!
-Alex

Vyckinis · « **Reply #24 on:** May 28, 2012, 07:16:23 pm »

extreme facepalm

Sam 1060 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 28, 2012, 07:56:21 pm »

Haha

. The edit was ok but you should've put music to it, it would've made it better in my opinion.

Also, heads up, I guess that lazy will make a collab a lot harder

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 29, 2012, 12:11:29 am »

Haha yeah, i should stop being lazy. But also i didn't want to put music because there were so many choices! Although i have been thinking of music choice for the collab video already whether i get to be edtior or not

.

-Alex

-Eric- · « **Reply #27 on:** May 29, 2012, 02:26:03 am »

I think it's too early to think about the diabolo.ca collab. Maybe wait until around september at earliest?

Egad! · « **Reply #28 on:** May 29, 2012, 05:27:38 am »

Typically, stating that you are lazy over and over again won't get you any part of it.

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 29, 2012, 06:44:59 am »

Quote from: Egad! on May 29, 2012, 05:27:38 am

Typically, stating that you are lazy over and over again won't get you any part of it.

You have a good point, but when there is anything to do with filming, editing or writing i am up for it!
@Eric - Waiting later is also a good point (but not too late), but the more time someone spends editing, the better it can be. I'm not saying we should start now though, just agreeing.

luabduch · « **Reply #30 on:** May 29, 2012, 01:01:52 pm »

Quote from: -Eric- on May 29, 2012, 02:26:03 am

I think it's too early to think about the diabolo.ca collab. Maybe wait until around september at earliest?

It's never too early.
contactjuggling.org started thinking about their collab in january, the deadline for sending you clip is june 3rd.
And it'll probably be released in about two months...

Planning makes things a lot easier.

Icebox · « **Reply #31 on:** May 29, 2012, 04:04:53 pm »

Do you think you'd be up to editing lucas?

Sam 1060 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 29, 2012, 05:08:17 pm »

Who did it last year. I thought they would want to do it again.

Just checked and it was max, so did max say he is not doing it or is it a new editor every year?

Icebox · « **Reply #33 on:** May 29, 2012, 07:41:08 pm »

Nobody has edited the collab 2 years in a row. Martijn has edited 2 of them ('06 and '08), but he isn't really around here anymore (or if he is, he isn't posting). As such, we have had a different editor every year. I just suggested lucas because I've seen what he can do with footage and I've liked it. Ideally, Nico would be able to do it again since (IMO) the 2010 collab was the best one in terms of editing and effects.

haosone · « **Reply #34 on:** May 29, 2012, 11:05:59 pm »

Lucas for the king... except quality of the voice in "Sticktrap Concept"

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 30, 2012, 04:46:01 am »

Quote from: Vyckinis on May 28, 2012, 07:16:23 pm

extreme facepalm

What is the deal with this? I forgot to ask.

luabduch · « **Reply #36 on:** May 30, 2012, 01:32:32 pm »

Quote from: haosone on May 29, 2012, 11:05:59 pm

Lucas for the king... except quality of the voice in "Sticktrap Concept"

I'm working on correcting that! =)
Have you seen the new toss juggling tutorials on "Malabarize-se"?
www.youtube.com/lucasgabd

It'd be awesome to be the new editor guys, but right now I can't give this confirmation, I have a lot of work to do on my youtube channel until the end of july, and couldn't deal with a project so big in this moment.
But I can give the confirmation in August!
If we get another editor until then, no problem!

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 31, 2012, 03:24:26 am »

Maybe this year we could a try to have two editors.
Each editor could edit roughly half each the combine them, or even edit a half each then send each other their edits and edit over them again (without deleting stuff, just adding stuff).

What do you guys think?
-Alex

Scharling · « **Reply #38 on:** May 31, 2012, 09:33:03 am »

Quote from: Mediaboy13 on May 31, 2012, 03:24:26 am

Maybe this year we could a try to have two editors.
Each editor could edit roughly half each the combine them, or even edit a half each then send each other their edits and edit over them again (without deleting stuff, just adding stuff).

What do you guys think?
-Alex

No. No. No. How would you organize that, get the same theme, don't use the same clips and get the same style? It'd be a mess..

Olive · « **Reply #39 on:** May 31, 2012, 11:02:55 am »

Vote luabduch.

Ceri-Anne · « **Reply #40 on:** May 31, 2012, 06:01:56 pm »

Quote from: Scharling on May 31, 2012, 09:33:03 am

No. No. No. How would you organize that, get the same theme, don't use the same clips and get the same style? It'd be a mess..

You'd have to communicate really well and on a very regular basis, but it can be done. I'm not in favour of it though. It seems difficult enough to find one person. Let alone two people who are not only good at editing, but who are also able to work together well enough to make this a success.

Quote from: Olive on May 31, 2012, 11:02:55 am

Vote luabduch.

I agree. Most videos on his youtube channel look good! The editing looks professional.

Marijn · « **Reply #41 on:** May 31, 2012, 09:04:38 pm »

Luabduch!

Tipper · « **Reply #42 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:02:44 am »

I honestly don't care... I've been here here for 3 years now and I missed every single collab there has been due to laziness... but anyhow as one of the rather "old guys" here:

Vote luabduch!!!!!!!

-Tipper

dudderscircus · « **Reply #43 on:** June 01, 2012, 06:12:00 am »

Luabduch!

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 01, 2012, 07:24:21 am »

Okay, i guess i'll wait till next year.

Egad! · « **Reply #45 on:** June 01, 2012, 03:11:28 pm »

Luabduch!!!!

Finally got this thread out of the way

haosone · « **Reply #46 on:** June 01, 2012, 07:27:13 pm »

It's funny last year people were waiting till someone take it to do... nowadays people are choosing a guy who even didn't think about it!

luabduch · « **Reply #47 on:** June 01, 2012, 07:28:39 pm »

This is so cool, I didn't know that so many people here appreciate my work...

You know what, I'll do it!

But I'll not receive new entries now. I'll start getting it in August. we'll probably have 3 months to send (August, september and november). Is it good?
You can start planning and recording already!
Please, at least 720p, I know it's sometimes hard to have a high quality camera but you can always borrow one from a friend! (I did it many times before buying mine, and I live in Brazil, where filming equipment is really expensive, in comparison with USA, countries in europe or other places...)
Lighting doesn't have to be perfect, but at least think about it, also, search for cool backgrounds!
I'll try to put everyone in! (I know the feeling of being out of a collab, and is not that happy), but please, let's make it in high quality!

I can't edit as well as Nico yet, but I'll make my best!

Also, suggestions of good music that can be used (creative commons, attribution license) are always welcome! I have some in mind but I'll probably need more, so if you have a independent band and think that your music could fit, send me! If you find a cool music at jamendo.com, show us!

It can be good to everyone, and we can make a great work together!
Suggestions are welcome too and ca be discussed, always.

Thanks a lot and we'll talk soon!

Mediaboy13 · « **Reply #48 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:56:27 am »

Will you take submissions through unlisted or private links on YouTube and JTV?

spryoyabe · « **Reply #49 on:** June 08, 2012, 08:09:32 pm »

I would say try to put them on JTV instead of youtube because with youtubeyou have to take the time to go use a youtube video downloader but with JTV you can download right on the same page.

Nico · « **Reply #50 on:** June 09, 2012, 01:50:57 am »

Quote

Ideally, Nico would be able to do it again since (IMO) the 2010 collab was the best one in terms of editing and effects.

Thanks a lot but definitely won't have the time this year coz of some other projects... but I trust Lucas on this too

.

maxmaestro · « **Reply #51 on:** June 09, 2012, 09:45:27 am »

luabduch!!! ya this sounds exciting!! ya for whoever said isnt max doing it earlier. it was fun. but a lot of hard work and quite stressful. so i would like to do it again someday (maybe in a few years if im lucky) but definately not now. but as someone who has edited the collab i would like to push everyone to be helpful. give all your details (name, location) preferably put it on media fire or simular websites. try and make it mp4 or mov (i found the best) RAR and FLAC are the hardest things to convert.... i couldnt find an rar converter to save my life. and also can EVERY ONE SUBMIT and try and do it in the earlier stages. its stressful as it is, and its really nice to have all your footage. i think i got my last peices of footage after xmas... its not that hard to film a trick, if the weather is holding you back then go out this summer and film a few things. (its always nice to have a couple of tricks filmed somewhere anyways.

good luck to everyone. and it would be awesome to get some more silly ones. (i always remember the lawn mower tricks, i cant even remember most of the others) its always fun and shows how the forums just that bit more friendly if you get what i mean...

thanks
max

luabduch · « **Reply #52 on:** June 10, 2012, 03:09:39 am »

I'll get the submissions throught sites like ge.tt, 4shared, gogle drive, dropbox, or any site you want to upload it and people can't watch it before the real thing is coming.

youtube is not a good idea, it process the video after the upload, we can lose quality.

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Author Topic: Diabolo.Ca Collab 2012 Editor (Read 3358 times)