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Title: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on August 12, 2014, 10:10:18 AM
D.ca collaboration video 2014.

At first I need to say I appreciate the votes I got on poll to do this and I appreciate that people voted. I will do my best with the editing and I hope that it will be enough after all superb collaboration videos done already.

Concept

I thought I would like to try to build this collaboration video to be like a routine or an act, with sequences of different types of diabolo play. So for my editing it would help a lot to get clips in 3 different camera framing / angles that I could edit diabolo movements to fit in easily to next players clips. It would also be very important that you would start your clip and end your clip with with a open string throw about your head high. Of course you can jam even after this but too but at least I would have sure moment where to cut the clip in. Trapezes, internal and external wraps would also do and I will use these as much I can but to really keep this idea of building a collaboration routine I would need your help to get the clean opening movements at the beginning and at the end of your clip, and to have the same trick filmed from 3 different sizes or/and angles.
I hope you understand what I am trying to say and do. ;)


Please read these guidelines to keep the video for 2014 as good as the previous ones:

- Please make your footage HD, at least 720p. If you don't own a HD camera, borrow it from a friend! Send your clips in the best quality you can.

- You can send as many clips you want.

- Please record your sequence from different angles.

- Keep your clips and appearances short; make the move/trick be special but not special in a way of making it long.

- Mind lighting, photography and locations

- Name your clips with your name, Include your name as you want to appear in the video, city and country) and number these clips after the name like (SamuliPasanen Tampere Sweden1)

- Please don't release your clip on the internet before the final video is online. This will be more fun this way.

- Have fun and be creative and do it good and send the clips in the original format

- Preferred places for me to get your videos are dropbox and google drive

Send your clips to raulisamuli(hät)gmail.com


The deadline is November 1st and I’ll try to get the video done in the end of November. That we could all enjoy it during X-mas holiday.

If you have any question just leave a comment below!




Best regards,

Samuli
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Duncan on August 12, 2014, 01:14:04 PM
Thanks for taking this on, samuli. Looking forward to seeing what everyone comes up with in regard to your concept!
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Graham Milligan on August 12, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
I like the sound of this concept should be a cracker video!
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: luabduch on August 13, 2014, 12:20:48 AM
cool! :D I'll try to have some fun with that!
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Not Skilled Yet on August 13, 2014, 03:34:28 AM
how would you want people to start a passing clip?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on August 13, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
For passing tricks, there might be lot of ways to deal with this, coming from close up from trapeze to really wide  shot with the same trapeze showing the other person taking part as well, or the ten other players taking part. Then the tricks and we are back on solo stuff?

I am sure you people can think of even better ways and I am open for ideas how to deal with this. Main thing is to keep the footage good, with quality in all the levels of the clip and have enough different angles and in enough sizes (close up, Wide/Long Shot, Full Shot, Medium Shot, etc.)
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Toddyupa on August 13, 2014, 11:31:36 AM
Hey Samuli. This sounds really awesome!

So, start each trick with a throw (or trapeze, etc). What about tricks where that might be really hard? Or if trick is 3 diabolos, etc?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: the_vik_vh on August 13, 2014, 12:05:09 PM
For me it is a bit hard to visualize the concept. Would it pe possible to make a clip where you show how we should film the start and the end?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on August 13, 2014, 12:23:54 PM
Maybe we manage to film an examlpe during fdc2014.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Antho0722 on August 13, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
Your concept looks very cool!! But yeah an exemple would be very greatfull because I'm kinda confused :P
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Chloé F. on August 13, 2014, 04:45:02 PM
I really like your idea  :-D
I'm just wondering, if the trick we want to do is with several diabolos, is it best to throw 1 or all the diabolos ?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: TomasCZ on August 13, 2014, 07:44:32 PM
Yeah, I also like your  concept, but how are we supossed to do vertax/integral/suicide combos ??
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on August 13, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Integrals and vertax are super easy to edit together  because there aren't much state changes in either one style. I am bit more concerned of righty/lefty stuff but I trust my luck. ;)

With two and more, the basic shuffle and hover are propably the most clear cut moments.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on August 28, 2014, 06:41:24 AM
Sorry I have been busy with other stuff. In the meantime here's old video with moment that is kind of edited to be routine with different people

http://juggling.tv/2837 (http://juggling.tv/2837)

and from 00:42 - 01:24, I hope this example is clear enough.

Hear you all soon,

Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on August 30, 2014, 07:58:02 AM
For now I have got one person sending two clips for collaboration video. This won't make the final work really long neither collaborational. Would be fun to get more. ;)

On a side note please send videos after next week as it seems that my computers ssd drive is dying or something else is getting broken. I need to take it for repairing on Monday and I am not sure how big process this will be.

Cheers,

S
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on September 02, 2014, 06:38:05 PM
Hello again,

Yes the ssd-drive I had was broken but now this problem is solved and I can continue with editing things. at the moment the DcaCollab is coming to be quite short with one person and two clips. There's still time but it is running all the time.


Cheers,

R
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: The Void on September 02, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
Hoping to find time to film this weekend....
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Arjan on September 06, 2014, 07:30:35 PM
I do want to collaborate, with a 3 diabolo high diabolo start, in which all diabolo's start from a "dead" (non-spinning) position, to a full 3 high pattern. How would you suggest me to fit this in with the concept? Making an open-string throw and the beginning and possibly the end would be pointless to the trick, and a hassle. Any suggestions? Mind I'm left handed... you could flip the video, or leave it as it is.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on September 06, 2014, 08:07:15 PM
For number tricks I would hope people who have good finishes for high or low patterns would do those for the end of the clip, fancy starts and regens are always fun to see too. Leftie style is good, we'll see how I can make this happen in the end. I am really curious myself, how this will work out. ;)

Maybe you have some sort of numbers manipulation stuff to share with your 3D high start?

Cheers.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Arjan on September 06, 2014, 09:13:34 PM
You mean as sort of pre-routine, before the start itself? I'm afraid it would turn out rather routine-ish, and fairly tricky for myself.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on September 07, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
That was what I mean't but if pre-routine feels to be out of the question. You might end up to be the one starting the 3D part of the video. ;) We'll see.

Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: zano88 on September 15, 2014, 02:00:56 PM
Hi,
I've a question.
Do we have to record the same sequences from different angles as the same time by different cameras
or more simply in different times?

Thank you
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on September 16, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
Well if you have 3 cameras and have the same white balance etc settings on all of them, please use them to capture the trick on one go, but I would just have, and I believe most of people joining this collab. will have three different takes  from different angles of the same trick.  It doesn't matter that much in the edit.

Cheers, let's make this collab superb together!!!
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on October 06, 2014, 07:41:10 AM
Just 26 more days to participate in D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Not Skilled Yet on October 07, 2014, 04:33:35 PM
I have some stuff filmed, but it's not that good, maybe I'll send it in for now, then send something better
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Graham Milligan on October 07, 2014, 05:00:16 PM
Currently writing giant notes in my mind. I will try my best to remember to film the tricks tomorrow!
Sorry
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: 5p3ak on October 18, 2014, 11:36:50 AM
I didn't knew this section existed hahaha...so ignorant of me.

Will do my best to film some tricks in various angles.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: The Void on October 27, 2014, 07:22:43 PM
*bump* 'cos there are just a few days left.

I've not had time/sunlight/location yet, but I'm going out to film tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Icebox on October 27, 2014, 07:33:18 PM

I've not had time/sunlight/location yet, but I'm going out to film tomorrow morning.

And I as well.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Ronnie on October 27, 2014, 09:47:47 PM
My camera broke literally last week :/
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Wis on October 28, 2014, 09:43:31 AM
I have already submitted a couple of videos, including an easy passing clip
Ronnie is able to get a fts 34 in a week if I say he cant, but you cannot get a camera? come on, use your mądryfon :)
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Graham Milligan on October 28, 2014, 10:16:22 AM
clips in i think... did you get them?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on October 28, 2014, 12:32:53 PM
I got the clips. In total there are not too many, this is not going to be one of those 20min collabs.

I haven't downloaded the latest clips yet as I am busy doing something else at the moment. I'll dowload them at the weekend.

Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: The Void on October 28, 2014, 12:34:10 PM
Mine are in the can! I'll get them to you by the weekend, Samuli.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Wis on October 28, 2014, 12:50:31 PM
this is not going to be one of those 20min collabs.
Yummy
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Toddyupa on October 29, 2014, 04:12:29 AM
Was finally able to take time out of my busy schedule of procrastinating to shoot some tricks. After seeing how many clips there are, any estimation on how long it will take to edit / release the collab?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: ssROBINss on October 29, 2014, 09:15:59 AM
I will try to film something today
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Wis on October 30, 2014, 12:44:10 PM
Two days more! the deadline is 1st of November
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Not Skilled Yet on November 01, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
Not to be annoying, but did you get my clip?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on November 02, 2014, 12:40:25 PM
Got your clip not skilled.

Thank you all for the clips. I have downloaded the files and chosen the music for it. Next step is to make 3d-enviroment to be background for all the clips, cut the background away from all the clips... We'll have the collab-video ready in no time.

Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: The Void on November 02, 2014, 01:38:23 PM
Ooh, sounds interesting!

Have fun with the editing.  :)
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Graham Milligan on November 02, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
that does sound interesting!
Now i feel better about filming in the alley behind my house rather than trekking to somewhere of natural beauty!  :D
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on December 09, 2014, 07:36:33 AM
Diabolo.ca collaboration video for the year 2014 is ready for post-production things. Edit is done, and the soundtrack is massive. Now it is time to let the real magic happen. And as a surprise to you all Joona will take care of that post-prod-magic. Prepare yourselves, dcacollab2014 is coming out from the closet sooner than you ever wished for.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: 5p3ak on December 09, 2014, 11:31:23 AM
Diabolo.ca collaboration video for the year 2014 is ready for post-production things. Edit is done, and the soundtrack is massive. Now it is time to let the real magic happen. And as a surprise to you all Joona will take care of that post-prod-magic. Prepare yourselves, dcacollab2014 is coming out from the closet sooner than you ever wished for.

That's good to know, guess it's gonna be a long vid ?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Wis on December 09, 2014, 12:43:13 PM
Finnish marketing is a merciless effective creature. Can't wait for the soundtrack :)
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: The Void on December 09, 2014, 02:14:39 PM
Whoop!
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on December 10, 2014, 08:41:29 AM
As for information we got little set back as I found raw footage sent to me for over 40min that for some reason hadn't come through to my edit.

Bad news is that this is just more work for me but the good news is that this material is just way over the top kind of stuff so the DCACOLLAB2014 will just get bubblier.

Cheers!
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: 5p3ak on December 10, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
As for information we got little set back as I found raw footage sent to me for over 40min that for some reason hadn't come through to my edit.

Bad news is that this is just more work for me but the good news is that this material is just way over the top kind of stuff so the DCACOLLAB2014 will just get bubblier.

Cheers!

Take your time  :-D
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: vilihendrix on December 10, 2014, 08:12:35 PM
totally forgot about the collab. maybe ill try again next year  :P
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Marko on December 13, 2014, 07:58:33 PM
Sending in my footage NOW. Much love! Sorry for being latesie...
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: samuli on December 14, 2014, 04:33:04 PM
Okay! Now it seems that the edit is done and we are ready for post.prod.magic.time.

Some stuff I must say. Any guesses how long this 2014 collab. will be? and how many countries will be presented?

X-mass present for you all is just waiting to get wrapped up by Joona.


Che*rs!
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Icebox on December 15, 2014, 03:27:41 AM
45 minutes with 60 countries.

But seriously, maybe ~8 minutes with 10 countries????
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: 5p3ak on December 15, 2014, 02:06:47 PM
Okay! Now it seems that the edit is done and we are ready for post.prod.magic.time.

Some stuff I must say. Any guesses how long this 2014 collab. will be? and how many countries will be presented?

X-mass present for you all is just waiting to get wrapped up by Joona.


Che*rs!

15 minutes, 20 countries ?
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: The Void on December 15, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
12m,14c.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Graham Milligan on December 15, 2014, 03:26:59 PM
15mins

28countries
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Wis on December 17, 2014, 09:03:35 AM
10 minutes, 20 countries, half dog
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Not Skilled Yet on December 18, 2014, 04:42:07 AM
12 countries,  10 minutes
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: luabduch on December 22, 2014, 07:16:21 PM
oooh ended up not sending anything =/

I'd say 11 minutes, 16 countries
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Jussi on December 22, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
~13 minutes, 13 countries.. this will happen soon i hope  ;)
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Chloé F. on December 22, 2014, 08:16:29 PM
I think that each clip will last longer than those from previous collabs, since there are three view points.
Let's say, 16-18 minutes with about 17 countries :-D
Looking forward to it !
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: maxmaestro on December 22, 2014, 11:55:42 PM
all the countries and all the minutes!

in all seriousness though, have we ever had submissions from every continent? excluding the arctic and antarctic if you count them because yeah...
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Jussi on December 23, 2014, 06:08:57 PM
all the countries and all the minutes!

in all seriousness though, have we ever had submissions from every continent? excluding the arctic and antarctic if you count them because yeah...

No. I think there have never been videos from Africa. Not sure about South America.. at least we could have now video from Chile :), but i don't remember videos from there before. From other continents (Asia, Europe, North America and Australia) we had videos in same collaborations for sure.
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Not Skilled Yet on December 24, 2014, 04:13:13 AM
It's almost christmas... (No pressure)) :-*
Title: Re: D.ca collaboration video 2014.
Post by: Graham Milligan on December 24, 2014, 05:17:58 PM
hurray for christmas morning release!
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