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Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Timtom on February 20, 2006, 01:00:10 PM
Hello everybody! (it's my first post! :D )

You waited all for that, it has just come: The videos of william wei-liang lin, the winner of the wjf diabolo competition this year are here:
http://www.thewjf.com/videos/william.html
I haven't seen them but I' m delighted!

Timtom

Sorry for my english...(one more! :D  :wink: )
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: frank0072 on February 20, 2006, 01:03:34 PM
the links don't work on the site. Has anybody got the chance to download them already? can they be hosted elsewhere then?
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: barnesy on February 20, 2006, 01:04:14 PM
Do any of the links work for you?  They seem to give 404 errors.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: -Leo- on February 20, 2006, 01:05:33 PM
I'm getting a 404 aswell. I was realy looking forward to seeing this guy diabolo aswell :(
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on February 20, 2006, 01:18:41 PM
Don't worry, it's being sorted as we speak...


[UPDATE] Ok, its fixed.

Warning: They aren't brilliant. He has much much better stuff.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: -Leo- on February 20, 2006, 01:32:43 PM
They were nice. I wish there was more technical stuff rather than skipping and stuff like that.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: martijn on February 20, 2006, 03:12:12 PM
Nice, I can tell he's an awesome diabolist from his 2d smoothness and style. I'm really looking forward to see more and better stuff of him. Yet another very solid 3 diabolo juggler it seems!
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: frank0072 on February 20, 2006, 03:39:01 PM
Wow, that little guy is really good. Do they breed special diabolo- children in the East or something? Just as they do with jugglers in Russia..
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Chiok on February 20, 2006, 04:26:06 PM
Quote from: frank0072
Wow, that little guy is really good. Do they breed special diabolo- children in the East or something? Just as they do with jugglers in Russia..
Yep, they're planted in special breeding grounds where they grow up eating with handsticks out of diabolo cups (ok, this exaggeration falls down abit as chinese style diabolos don't have "cups" persay).

But it's just a cultural thing.  Like being good at football, or drinking.  I'm not sure why, maybe they don't watch as much TV.  Can't wait to watch the clips though, haven't seen anything of this fellow.

Chiok
(unfortunately born in London)
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Alex on February 20, 2006, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: Chiok
Quote from: frank0072
Wow, that little guy is really good. Do they breed special diabolo- children in the East or something? Just as they do with jugglers in Russia..
Yep, they're planted in special breeding grounds where they grow up eating with handsticks out of diabolo cups (ok, this exaggeration falls down abit as chinese style diabolos don't have "cups" persay).

But it's just a cultural thing.  Like being good at football, or drinking.  I'm not sure why, maybe they don't watch as much TV.  Can't wait to watch the clips though, haven't seen anything of this fellow.

Chiok
(unfortunately born in London)


My friend is taught Chinese yo-yo at Chinese School.  It seems like it's very much a part of their culture.

Nice videos, the 3d especially.  He's got the same right-hand-dominant pattern that Yabe has.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: frank0072 on February 20, 2006, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: Alex
Nice videos, the 3d especially.  He's got the same right-hand-dominant pattern that Yabe has.


quite obvious, they are grown on the same farm  :wink:
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Matt_ on February 20, 2006, 08:48:56 PM
yeah, im gonna have to wholeheartedly agree with Norbi on this one...kind of underwhelming.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: fredo on February 20, 2006, 08:55:15 PM
I like the look of his 3d shuffle (Yabe's is still better). the 2d really looks awesome and the 1d looks amazing for non-diabolists..But if you try to do this jump-moves, you'll recognize that it isn't that easy as it seems...
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: web on February 20, 2006, 09:10:56 PM
Yeah, well, I guess that's what you get when non diaboloists put up videos of diabolo.  Sure, being able to do six jump rope jumps under a diabolo is pretty cool, but it won't be what experienced diaboloists are looking for... Oh well.

Mike Webster
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Arjan on February 20, 2006, 10:50:44 PM
Come on, jumping rope under a diabolo  :?  Is was only a bit shocked about his 3 diab stuff.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on February 20, 2006, 11:16:21 PM
Hey come on, he does jump-rope very well  :wink:

Alright, so those videos really didn't do him justice. But i assure you, he rocks. Maybe his tech skills arent what you expected, but they are better than that, and he makes up for it with unbelievable energy and style. I just really hope you get to see his WJF routine. Come to think of it now, there was A LOT of new stuff, but it was so so tight, just wait and see...
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Chiok on February 21, 2006, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: frank0072
Quote from: Alex
Nice videos, the 3d especially.  He's got the same right-hand-dominant pattern that Yabe has.

quite obvious, they are grown on the same farm  :wink:
William is from mainland China, isn't he?  It's nice to see the Chinese whoop the Japanese, for no other reason than Japan's dominance.

I'll believe that there are more stormy tricks that he's capable of.  The fact that he looks very comfortable with 3 and readjusting his shuffle belies that.  He also got the Yabe Armstall in there at the end too.  Someone send this kid a camera and a firewire card.  Why did he even turn up to a convention on the other side of the world? [1]

Chiok
[1] - the answer's gonna be he lives in the US and I'm gonna feel stupid...
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: juggleBG on February 21, 2006, 02:07:26 PM
I think he's from Tailand?  Norbi do you know?
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on February 21, 2006, 03:29:59 PM
Let me just check my address book...

Taipei County, Taiwan.

He went over because Ryo is his favourite diabolist and he wanted to meet him (probably would have been easier in Japan, but i guess he wanted to compete aswell).

He hopes to make it to Nottingham (for all you Europeans who want to know) although it costs a damn site more than it does to fly to Vegas.

As for the Ryo arm stall, he got out super cleanly in his routine. Oh another badass trick he did IN HIS ROUTINE was the 2 high skip whip thing (3401 maybe?).
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: martijn on February 21, 2006, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: norbi
Oh another badass trick he did IN HIS ROUTINE was the 2 high skip whip thing (3401 maybe?).

Yeah, he did that in one of the WJF convention clips. Priam's 3401 skip whipcatch trick right?
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: KaTurN on February 21, 2006, 05:28:53 PM
Yeah he was perty good i havent seen the video they choped together of him yet but you could kindah already tell he had it when he was practiceing

the excalibur genocide off the ground was perty impressive to me just because i dont think i could get the diabolo to skid like that for soo long

makes ya wanna go back to plastic
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Pete on February 23, 2006, 06:58:21 PM
His 3 low looks super stable and that sun was really quick and violent but still amazingly cool. His wrap acceleration looks a bit strange though, it starts like yabe's and then ends like Baptistes....sort of.

And now it seems that every oriental in the world can do the splits. At one point i really wanted to learn it so i tried and streched daily for weeks. Then i pulled a muscle in my leg and couldn't walk for 2 days... so i stopped!
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Scooby on February 24, 2006, 02:28:54 AM
what are you using to play it?

because its not letting me play. :(
Title: doh!
Post by: William on February 24, 2006, 04:38:08 AM
Same here... :(
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Squiggle on February 24, 2006, 04:41:08 AM
Use vlc    YAY
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Matt_ on February 24, 2006, 07:04:45 AM
Quote from: Pete
And now it seems that every oriental in the world can do the splits. At one point i really wanted to learn it so i tried and streched daily for weeks. Then i pulled a muscle in my leg and couldn't walk for 2 days... so i stopped!


ok, first of all, it's incorrect to refer to people as "oriental". only inanimate objects, such as furniture or artwork, can be correctly referred to as "oriental". it's considered rude to refer to anyone as oriental, kind of like calling a Japanese person a "jap". it's not officially vulgar, but it is agreed upon that it is a rude (and outdated) term and should not be used to refer to human beings.

anyway, enough grammar lessons...i'd just like to point out that doing the splits isnt really something you can just stretch for a few weeks and do. if you havent kept your body in proper shape all your life (or your body just isnt inclined to do it), it's going to be tough. not to mention if you're not doing the proper stretches in a proper regimen, you may have been not helping your body out at all.

what im trying to say is, it's possible for any young and fit person to do the splits (im going to assume that you're young enough for this, and your body is "normal"), it just takes proper training, and time.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Chiok on February 24, 2006, 11:27:49 AM
About the "oriental" thing, I don't mind it, because the term Asian is just too large.  All very subjective, and I don't mind it.  Besides, hard to know where we are from, we all look the same  :wink:  (respectfully submitted).

Splits are hard, and yep, some people are physically incapable of doing it, it's just something you find out.  I like how it steals a bit of Frebourg's thunder.  What I'm impressed with is how he keeps control of the shuffle when it's an inch off of the ground.  And he's not even that tall, which makes it even more difficult (higher size - diabolo size ratio).

I do want to see what makes him so awesome.  Is it he's just very solid with his tricks?  Or does he have some double-hard moves in his belt?  Would like to see more.

Chiok
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: ming on February 24, 2006, 01:22:26 PM
Quote from: Chiok

Splits are hard, and yep, some people are physically incapable of doing it, it's just something you find out.  I like how it steals a bit of Frebourg's thunder.  What I'm impressed with is how he keeps control of the shuffle when it's an inch off of the ground.  And he's not even that tall, which makes it even more difficult (higher size - diabolo size ratio).


Sorry gonna correct you here anyone can achieve front splits it just takes time, middle splits are a completely different story though.

As for william good and all but maybe a little overhyped?
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Pete on February 24, 2006, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: Matt
Pete wrote:
Quote from: Pete
And now it seems that every oriental in the world can do the splits. At one point i really wanted to learn it so i tried and streched daily for weeks. Then i pulled a muscle in my leg and couldn't walk for 2 days... so i stopped!



ok, first of all, it's incorrect to refer to people as "oriental". only inanimate objects, such as furniture or artwork, can be correctly referred to as "oriental". it's considered rude to refer to anyone as oriental, kind of like calling a Japanese person a "jap". it's not officially vulgar, but it is agreed upon that it is a rude (and outdated) term and should not be used to refer to human beings.


I aplogize to all those offended.
Your overwhelming gramatical genius never ceases to amaze.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Matt_ on February 24, 2006, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: Pete
I aplogize to all those offended.
Your overwhelming gramatical genius never ceases to amaze.


more like overwhelming pickiness :P
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Sharpes on February 27, 2006, 05:22:44 AM
his style was very different. he has solid three stuff, but not much past what you saw in the video, and three high he can do a pirrouette and 441 well (all I saw him do with high), with one, hes got cool infinite suicide stuff (I think it was his best overall, and was really very impressive), and some fast body moves, but they are nothing compared to what the french guys do. He's got great style, and is very much geared to performance; not a whole lot past what he has consistent or is working on for a new routine. Great performer though. I think Yabe would have won with more preparation and if he wasn't sick, but William definitely deserved it. And I don't think anyone can match his jumprope skills, they were by far faster and smoother than I've seen anyone do. And I'm serious when I say that.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: martijn on February 28, 2006, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: Chiok
I do want to see what makes him so awesome.  Is it he's just very solid with his tricks?  Or does he have some double-hard moves in his belt?  Would like to see more.

He's like... REALLY fast and amazing. He did stuff no one expected, it was fast, dropless, amazing, technical, and over all he's a great performer.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: fredo on February 28, 2006, 10:12:04 PM
This was one of the best acts I've ever seen... His routine was just crazy!! I liked it so much...  Does unwrapped inf. suicide and walks around (:P about that name) and does a pirouette... genocides out of nowhere and behind the back catch... And stupidly difficult things I can't remember
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on February 28, 2006, 10:54:54 PM
Fredo? I guess (by the similarity in the name, and the fact you are German) that you were the guy at Daan's over the weekend?
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: fredo on February 28, 2006, 11:04:23 PM
Yes I am the guy :wink:
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on February 28, 2006, 11:25:22 PM
I believe, as i dont recall seeing any other camera set up, that everyone in that room were the only other people (other than WJF attendants) who have seen William's routine. I hope you feel special  :wink:
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: fredo on February 28, 2006, 11:38:26 PM
I do always feel special :wink: And I didn't mention where I saw it not to cause problems for you... But since you cleared it up... Thx for that Norbi :wink:
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Chiok on March 01, 2006, 09:57:20 AM
Oooo.... shhh.  Carry alot of old tapes around with you?  Going to BJC?

Chiok
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on March 01, 2006, 02:59:53 PM
haha, oops. It seems i shouldn't have let that little cat out of the bag.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: J_J777 on March 05, 2006, 02:47:25 AM
Don't let a cat out of the bag, let the movie out of the bag and onto the internet  :)  when are you gonna post the vid?
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on March 05, 2006, 08:32:11 PM
I'm not. Firstly it would probably be illegal on some level. Secondly, i spent the ridculous amount of money it cost to go out there and see it, you guys can wait for the DVD. Thirdly, it's not really allowed for other reasons too.

Anyway, it's not that good.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: martijn on March 05, 2006, 09:04:09 PM
Quote from: norbi
Anyway, it's not that good.

Oh yes it is.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on March 05, 2006, 09:16:25 PM
shhh
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: martijn on March 05, 2006, 09:22:47 PM
I mean... Norbi should have won the competition! William is like... so bad. Really, he is.

(that better Norbi?)
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on March 05, 2006, 09:27:42 PM
good boy
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: J_J777 on March 05, 2006, 11:17:32 PM
wow williams so bad that norbi's better than him!  :P  haha  about when do you think you'll release it?  also you have some different footage than the dvd which is why you should post it.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: norbi on March 06, 2006, 11:39:17 AM
Quote from: J_J777
also you have some different footage than the dvd which is why you should post it.


Amusingly... I don't.

I'll let you think about that one....
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Chiok on March 06, 2006, 01:26:09 PM
Yeah, let's not push the issue now.  If anyone remembers WJF04, personal footage of that was near impossible to see.  It's geared towards a US audience anyway, so ESPN will show it to you if neccessary.  It's not always cricket, remember.

Anyway, be glad he's not Alan Plotkin.

Chiok
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Pete on March 06, 2006, 04:57:13 PM
Has anyone here got ESPN or ESPN2? Because i had never even hear of it until WJF 04.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: jammy on March 06, 2006, 05:35:08 PM
its a american channel! it ist even on sky! but could be wrong!
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Matt_ on March 06, 2006, 09:20:50 PM
Quote from: Pete
Has anyone here got ESPN or ESPN2? Because i had never even hear of it until WJF 04.


i've had ESPN and ESPN2 for several years. it's been on basic cable here in the states for a while ;)
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Chiok on March 07, 2006, 10:04:17 AM
Quote from: Matt_
i've had ESPN and ESPN2 for several years. it's been on basic cable here in the states for a while ;)
I've had been buying alcohol and gambling for several years now.  It's the government given right of every 18 (or looks 18 ) year old here in the Limey Country  :wink:

Chiok
(For the record, I don't drink much or gamble at all)
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Diabolo88 on March 09, 2006, 04:28:10 PM
I feel I´ve gotta ask. Why do the WJF put out vids of him doing such crappy tricks (besides his 3 stuff which looked pretty good)?

It´s obvious that he must have much harder and better stuff than that if he won against Ryo in a tech-competition. So why do the WJF put vids of him doing tricks that are very inferior to Yabes? Even though I could understand why they would want to save stuff for their DVD, they could at least show a few tricks that are worthy of first place.

P.S. I agree that his 3 sun look really cool. Is he able to combine it with an armstall, or is it too fast?
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: martijn on March 09, 2006, 04:53:18 PM
Well, they're non-diabolists, they just think these are the most impressive tricks. And yes, he can do the sun to armstall very well.
Title: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: frank0072 on March 09, 2006, 07:22:08 PM
I agree on Martijn, that must probably be the case. Just as a string climb is just as cool as a genocide to the 'normal people'
Title: Re: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Niclas on February 21, 2008, 07:44:25 PM
Anybody still have the video of william's wjf profile , i really want to see it ;)
Title: Re: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Diabolo88 on February 21, 2008, 08:03:53 PM
If you mean the 3 that were up during that time I still have them.
Maybe I could send them to you (but I dunno how).

They weren´t spectacular though. 3 with normal sun and 42, ropeskipping and lying down fan and such. He does much, much better stuff than that now.
Title: Re: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 21, 2008, 10:11:29 PM
The link will not work for me
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Title: Re: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: Duncan on February 21, 2008, 10:17:10 PM
The link is two years old, after all.

-Duncan
Title: Re: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: yonm13 on February 22, 2008, 10:46:41 AM
is there an alternative link? i really wanna see that..
Title: Re: Video of William! (from WJF)
Post by: nezzybaby on February 22, 2008, 12:42:48 PM
Why do people keep bumping threads from 2 years ago, it's driving me insane, i see a thread appear called video of william, get really excited, then click the link only to realise it's something i've seen years ago and have since had much much better videos of him. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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