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Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Punkerpanda on January 24, 2005, 03:31:10 PM
i was wondering how long on average your guys's string last, cause right now my selfmade aluminium sticks rip them almost everyday. i use the renegade string  btw since i havent gotten my hands on some henry yellow string. I seriously doubt that once a day is the amount the string should break, and i know it has alot of how much you play and how violent.

also i was wondering how much the henry aluminium sticks weigh, cause mine weigh about 50 grams each(48 and 47 to be excact)
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: martijn on January 24, 2005, 04:38:25 PM
My Henry's alu sticks weigh 44g each. The Henry's yellow string lasts 1 - 2 weeks. I practise about 1-2 hours a day.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: seán_ on January 24, 2005, 05:49:46 PM
what are the ends of your sticks like? Any sharp edges will snap string in no time, same for burrs. Potentilally if the string is not free to rotate then that can put strain on a string as well.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Chiok on January 24, 2005, 08:18:06 PM
I used to use my own aluminium sticks as well made from 10mm bar with a hole drilled in the tip and out one side similar to the henry's ali.  Any slight burr on the edge or in the "barrel" will cause the string to fray and eventually break with prolonged whipping.  I solved this by cutting of a small piece of tape that I stuck backwards to itself to form a lil tube that I slid inside the hole I made to act as a sleeve.  This worked fine.

I also solved it by changing back to wooden sticks with the same mod on the end so the string comes out of the stick which I find helps when doing 2 diabolos.  Though I could do with a way of making the string rotate freely so that it wouldn't get all tangled (very similar to yoyo string, and we all know how annoying that gets).

Generally my string lasts for about 3-4weeks with frequent use.  When it used to break near the knot, I just retied it till my string got shorter and shorter it was pointless.

Chiok
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Punkerpanda on January 24, 2005, 11:11:17 PM
alright, thanks for the replys
yeah the thing i have now still needs some fine tuning, but so far i think i'm getting very close.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Matt_ on January 27, 2005, 07:14:15 AM
i've used Henry's white string for a few months now, i've had my string last as little as a week (from a break then it's too short to retie  :evil: ) to up to 3 or 4 weeks. i havent broken a string in a couple months (knock on wood!) but my current string (~2 weeks old) is getting frayed and dirty. i have no idea how i ruin string this fast.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Tahia on January 27, 2005, 07:22:39 AM
well math ... my sting usualy brek in one week.... but can break in of string :)
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Leeroy on January 27, 2005, 08:11:30 PM
It depends on how much you're playin'... My string gets worse after two weeks or so. In summer, when I practise outside it lasts shorter (a week or so). My last string I ripped while playing Excalibur (very surprising). That was very loud  :?
Title: My string...
Post by: Luke Burrage on January 27, 2005, 11:30:48 PM
I often use flair diabolos that have brass axels. I think the brass is bad for string. When I use my non-brass diabolos the string lasts longer.

Maybe.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Ifrit on January 28, 2005, 09:16:37 AM
My string very rarely last for a week when I’m doing allot of 2 work but it can last allot longer (almost 2 weeks :) ) when I’m mainly doing one.

As a testament to this my current sting is three old pieces tied to make one (kind of a Frankenstein’s monster string), even though it’s still 2 short and it about to snap again.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Susannah on May 03, 2005, 02:05:40 PM
I have found the worst thing for breaking my string is other people. All some of my friends can do is throw it really high and that seems to break the string more than technical tricks.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Hoop on May 03, 2005, 03:36:26 PM
My wood sticks tear through the string faster than my aluminums.  I guess the wood is rough there.  I have a small diabolo that had little devils on it but they are worn off now.(anyone know what kind this is?  I got it so long ago I can't remember.)  It came with these really thin and long wooden sticks and a funky string.  The string was red and yellow and lasted me about 4 years of on and off play.  The string still hasn't broken, it's just stuck in a tree.    :shock:  :twisted:
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Spink on May 04, 2005, 12:18:11 PM
Quote from: RattaY
I have found the worst thing for breaking my string is other people..


I bring a seperate set of sticks out for 'everbody else' because people get the string filth, which ends up in snapage.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Twilite on July 08, 2005, 01:51:31 PM
Sorry for digging this back up, but it's the best place I can find to ask my question.

Just recently, my string seems to be constantly twisted. You know of you were to hold one stick still and twist the other one, the string gets turned over itself and when you hold both stick close together the two parts of the string wrap around each other? (Does that make any sense?)

My previous string, which wasn't too old started doing it, so I figured it was dead and replaced it. My brand new string is doing exactly the same thing.

The problem is, when I straighten it out, without letting go of the stick or twisting them at all, very soon it is twisted again, and even when its really twisted and two parts of string don't wrap together very much. It's as if my string is getting kinked somehow.
Just wondering if this was common and what may be causing it? It makes my diaboloing feel really rough as the diabolo moves over the twists in the string, and wraps up lots more than before.

I've recently started doing wrapped orbits to speed up, and practicing (rarely) infinite suicides. They are the only new things I'm trying.

Any idea?  :(
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Dracodragon on July 08, 2005, 07:14:54 PM
Mine goes about every 2-3 weeks if im lucky. On average, I would say it usually lasts 1.5-2 weeks. I practice a lot tho.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: seán_ on July 08, 2005, 08:15:39 PM
Twilite,
What kind of sticks are you using? (and string)
if you are using wooden sticks with you have to be aware about whn ceratain tricks put twists in the string, (I   think infinite suicides will) to stop this you have to 'let go' of the sticks to allow the string to unwind.
if you are using henrys metal or carbon this shouldn't be a problem as long as the string is free to rotate. other than that sometimes you get string that comes of the roll flattened theres not a lot you can do about that.

only other thing I can think of is that if you are wrap orbiting a lot and creating a lot of heat that might be flattening the string out, not too sure about that though.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Twilite on July 08, 2005, 11:33:49 PM
Thanks for the tips. I was, at time of asking using wooden sticks, tied with bowlines.

But diaboloing tonight I managed to snap my string for the first time, not just once but three times  :? Preceeded to snap a stick too. Strange.

Oh well, will be ordering alu sticks tomorrow. I've read about the whole destroying axel thing, how serious an issue is this? I'm buying a Circus, and plastic hubs soon enough, but does this need now to be a thing of urgency, or will I get by with some minor damage to my current diabolo?
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: seán_ on July 08, 2005, 11:40:19 PM
Dints and dents dont seem to matter much but I allways shaved of any sharp bits. I know people who are not bothered by the dints at all and others who dont like tham at all. Just keep your eye on them and take action if you feel it needs it.

Keep an eye on the ends of your new sticks as well and file or shave with a knife (carefull now) any knicks that will damage the string.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Matt_ on July 09, 2005, 03:35:25 AM
Quote from: Twilite
Oh well, will be ordering alu sticks tomorrow. I've read about the whole destroying axel thing, how serious an issue is this?


well for me, it was pretty serious. i DESTROYED one of my circus' hubs with using alum sticks. the other circus i had, i bought it, went to japanthe next week, and by the time i got back, the hubs were pretty gone too. 'course, all the mini genocides and grinds and stuff probably destroyed it a lot faster than i would've in my beginner days..

if you have non wooden sticks, i'd say the plastic hubs are a necessity. not only do you get past the problem of hub destruction, the plastic hubs look a lot better, grind smoother, make your diabolo a little bit lighter, and probably most importantly, improve string life. the metal hubs seem to never get clean---they are always rubbing off their filth onto your string, and plus they are rough, destroying your string doubletime.

so, invest in hubs and the circus at the same time and you should be safe.

or get a finesse  :roll:
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: je4d on July 09, 2005, 10:23:05 AM
Quote from: Matt_
Quote from: Twilite
Oh well, will be ordering alu sticks tomorrow. I've read about the whole destroying axel thing, how serious an issue is this?


well for me, it was pretty serious. i DESTROYED one of my circus' hubs with using alum sticks. the other circus i had, i bought it, went to japanthe next week, and by the time i got back, the hubs were pretty gone too. 'course, all the mini genocides and grinds and stuff probably destroyed it a lot faster than i would've in my beginner days..

if you have non wooden sticks, i'd say the plastic hubs are a necessity. not only do you get past the problem of hub destruction, the plastic hubs look a lot better, grind smoother, make your diabolo a little bit lighter, and probably most importantly, improve string life. the metal hubs seem to never get clean---they are always rubbing off their filth onto your string, and plus they are rough, destroying your string doubletime.

so, invest in hubs and the circus at the same time and you should be safe.

or get a finesse  :roll:


I wouldn't say they're a necessity for all non-wooden sticks - I'm using henry's carbon sticks atm and they didn't do any damage to my hubs. I would, however, reccomend them for whatever sticks you have, since the alum hubs can easily be damaged by (e.g.) dropping the diabolo on gravel (this didn't destroy my hubs, but made grinds very bumpy).

Getting back to the topic, I've only ever broken one string with henry's carbon sticks, when it wore through at the tip of the stick because i was learning infinite suicides ;)

Despite this, I tend to throw away strings after about a week of heavy practise, because they become too rough and start wrapping up around the axle in (e.g.) infinite suicides

and Matt_: I've yet to try a finesse :/
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: juggleBG on July 09, 2005, 02:06:14 PM
Hey Punk.  I have the same problem with my homade allys, but since I filed smooth the tip area, I discovered that the problem was at the base of the knot.  Check this zone for any edges.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: eggy900 on July 11, 2005, 11:20:23 AM
I seem to find that my finesse G2 wears down the string really quickly compared to my old Jazz. It's really annoying and i think my new reel will have run out by the end of summer. :x
Title: How often do you have to change your string?
Post by: JonnyG on September 16, 2005, 11:22:35 PM
I find this a bit weird that I have only had my diabolo for nearly 2 days, and I brought some string from firetoys as an extra and already its filthy, and I've barely used my diabolo. It appears to be making the string grip the diabolo and its easily tangled when Im doing wrap around accelerations :(.

Should I change my string already or can it just be cleaned for now? I dont know, Im just a complete newbie.

Awww, c'mon guys... 13 views and no replies? Its a simple question.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: wua05 on September 17, 2005, 07:19:15 AM
get henrys yellow string.  its cool :P
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Matt_ on September 17, 2005, 07:22:19 AM
this has only been discussed like 11 million times, sadly it's a pretty black and white issue. everyone pretty much uses henry's yellow...if not babache string, and some people like henry's white. and the cheap people use Home Depot string....

to answer your question i change mine every couple of weeks and i do diabolo a lot, but i have 2 sets of sticks.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: martijn on September 17, 2005, 11:10:30 AM
I merged your thread with this topic because it has been covered before. Have a look in this thread to find answers to your questions.

Try the Search button (http://www.diabolo.ca/forum/search.php) next time, or have a look at sean_'s Equipment sticky (http://www.diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=3) and the Trick and Video archive sticky (http://www.diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=149) please. He put a lot of work in it.

Thanks in advance.
Martijn
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Mr.Bungle on September 18, 2005, 01:25:13 AM
I have had my string for 4 years and i practise about an hour a day. note that it is fraying and has a few knots
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Pete on September 18, 2005, 02:53:34 PM
my string is lasting lesss and less time now, but mainly coz the nibs on my mr b  alu sticks area all dented and sharp, i need some more but i cant find a store that sells just the endes. at the moment my string only lasts about 5 days which is really annoying, and expensive ( in string terms). My friends all buy string off me 4 a pound a metere mostly which is a great pirce for me but it means i have to order string quite often.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Scooby on May 24, 2006, 01:54:14 PM
i re-strung about 2 and a half weeks ago, and now my string has pretty much died, but i remember when sensei gave me some of his string it lasted for about 2months!

i tried soaking the string in soapy water for about 2 days, which did apsolutly nothing!

i use henrys alu, circus with extended hubs, and henrys yellow

is it normal for people to change there string say around every two weeks??

i must say, i do practise around 4-5 hours a day.    God damn 3!!!

any help would be great,

but for now i guess ill just re-string....

Ta!

Scooby
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: frank0072 on May 24, 2006, 03:05:14 PM
I used to replace my string every week atleast, but now my string is on for about a month and it doesn't need replacement yet. I like the 'rawness' now, because I mainly practise 3D wrap starts, so a bit of friction is good then I suppose. (I still suck big time at 3D, but I have already estimated that it will take me half a year to master a shuffle..)
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: martijn on May 24, 2006, 05:43:26 PM
I used to change my string every week or 2 weeks, but now, since I'm doing more juggling and less diaboloing, I only need to change it every month or so :P Usually, just before or after a jugglingconvention. I do play with about 4 to 5 sets of string though. So divide that by 5, and you have the time my string lasts.

Arjan liked to change his string every practise session. But he practises way too much anyway :)
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Arjan on May 27, 2006, 09:46:46 PM
Quote from: frank0072
(I still suck big time at 3D, but I have already estimated that it will take me half a year to master a shuffle..)

How the hell can you estimate it will take you about 6 months to master the shuffle? Sorry, but I don`t support this theory.

Quote from: Martijn
Arjan liked to change his string every practise session. But he practises way too much anyway :)


After about 5 to 6 hours of play (not actual playing, a lot of dropping in between  :wink: ) I like to change my string. It`s MB yellow, the best string wich delivers maximum performance after a minimal amount of play.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: -Leo- on May 28, 2006, 08:41:16 AM
Quote from: Arjan
After about 5 to 6 hours of play (not actual playing, a lot of dropping in between  :wink: ) I like to change my string. It`s MB yellow, the best string wich delivers maximum performance after a minimal amount of play.
I still opt for Henry's. On the discussion of 'How long does your string last?' I would say not long enough. I'm going through a roll of string in about 2 or 3 months.
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: frank0072 on May 28, 2006, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: Arjan
Quote from: frank0072
(I still suck big time at 3D, but I have already estimated that it will take me half a year to master a shuffle..)

How the hell can you estimate it will take you about 6 months to master the shuffle? Sorry, but I don`t support this theory.


From what I've heard around here I thought that would be reasonable to aim for... not many people get it in one week...
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: DAMIEN on May 28, 2006, 09:32:21 AM
my string usually lasts me 2-3 weeks if im good to it :D i use carbon handsticks and henrys orange string with my finesse :wink:
Title: How long does your string last?
Post by: Valium on May 29, 2006, 06:05:59 PM
Quote from: Arjan

After about 5 to 6 hours of play (not actual playing, a lot of dropping in between  :wink: ) I like to change my string. It`s MB yellow, the best string wich delivers maximum performance after a minimal amount of play.

propably true with circus or finesse, but I cant stand the string wraping up after 30 minutes with my diabigs (but is there a big difference between yellow and pink babache string, dunno if I ever used the yellow one, with the pink one its not very nice to play)

ontopic: usually every week if I dont switch alot between the pairs of sticks, though at the berlin convention I switched my string 3 times on one day
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: MIAsian5070 on March 20, 2009, 12:27:08 AM
I have henry's carbon fiber sticks; my first string I used with it lasted for months, and then now every time I change it it only lasts for a week, Max... I believe I have Henry's Yellow string.  I think the problem is that the end of the stick frays the string...is there any way to prevent this? i've tried tying a knot at both ends, so that the knots prevent any string movement, that that isn't possible, to get the knots exactly at the right spots to keep the string from moving.

I'll have to try the "tape mod" mentioned earlier, but I don't exactly know what it means...
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Sean on March 20, 2009, 01:04:51 AM
That's because the metals ends have got rough from dropping them on pavement. You need to get some fine grained sand paper and make them smooth again. Ideally you can find a Dremel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dremel) power tool or a buffing wheel to get it really smooth. If it's really bad, you might have to use a fine metal file first.

If the ends of your sticks don't have any nicks in them then your string should essentially never break (under normal circumstances).
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: seaneatsmuffins on March 20, 2009, 11:47:13 AM
for about a week i have henrys aluminum and the string breaks to easily its annoying
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: MIAsian5070 on March 20, 2009, 03:46:51 PM
yes, thank you, I have found that there is in fact a chip at the polished aluminum tip; I 'll look into getting it smoothed out. Thanks
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Sean on March 20, 2009, 09:11:00 PM
for about a week i have henrys aluminum and the string breaks to easily its annoying
If the ends are smooth the string won't break there. End of story. This has nothing to do with Henrys aluminum. It's the same for all sticks that have metal ends, which is pretty much all sticks (besides wood or Peter's sticks) these days.
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Mr.D on March 22, 2009, 08:39:19 PM
I bought a pair of Sundia short carbons, and the string that followed was incredibly durable; it lasted for two months.
Some months ago I bought a reel of the coreless MB yellow string, and I found it incredibly NOT durable (do not buy!). It's wearing out after only a week or so. I have decided to buy a new reel of string, but I don't know weather to go Sundia or Henry's? The Sundia string was very durable, but I've heard so much great about the yellow string from Henry's...
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Chiok on March 23, 2009, 11:09:02 AM
Horses for courses, as they say.  Some people really like the MB string because it is usuable from the start, if a bit stretchy and quick to gum up, but I imagine for performances, it's nice to have something you know what to expect.

Sundia versus Henrys, same rationale.  You've tried Sundia and loads of people like Henrys, so you can't go wrong really.  I use Henrys, but I diabolo so infrequently that my string lasts months before I change it.  And then I regret changing it for weeks.

Chiok
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Mr.D on March 23, 2009, 10:53:49 PM
What's the difference?
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1522/js3861xli.jpg)(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7541/henrysdiabologlowstringd.jpg)

Which would you recommend?
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Ben. on March 23, 2009, 10:56:13 PM
really they have a few minor differences i find. go for the fleck, but really stop worrying about what string to use, it's all similar anyway.
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Mr.D on March 23, 2009, 11:26:30 PM
really they have a few minor differences i find. go for the fleck, but really stop worrying about what string to use, it's all similar anyway.
ok thanks. you see I bought 25m MB string which turned out very bad, so I ask about the strings before I waste another £10 :)
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Sean on March 24, 2009, 02:31:41 AM
The difference between the non-fleck and fleck Henrys yellow is that the fleck stuff is newer. Henrys wanted to differentiate their string from the rest. Supposedly it's the same stuff. I don't notice much of a difference if any.

The MB string isn't bad, in fact it's probably almost as popular as the Henrys yellow now I'd think. Priam, Arjan, Martijn, and Ceri-Anne are all using it, for example. I keep one set of sticks with it.
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Crackers on March 24, 2009, 09:14:38 AM
Yeah Babache string is kewl. But they did like Henrys and changed it, it's much more elastic and doesn't have the same feeling  :(
Anyone knows where I could find some old rolls of babache yellow ?
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Arjan on March 24, 2009, 10:03:55 AM
Yeah Babache string is kewl. But they did like Henrys and changed it, it's much more elastic and doesn't have the same feeling  :(
Anyone knows where I could find some old rolls of babache yellow ?

Are you saying the MB yellow string has changed?? That would be a serious problem since I only use that. Hmm.. I have half a roll left... I'd better make some phone calls  8)

On topic: that would seriously prolong my use of a single string I guess!
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Crackers on March 24, 2009, 01:07:23 PM
Yes went there the other day and asked for a 100m yellow roll of it, and they gave me a different one as usual, larger and not as tall, so I asked. They confirmed that it was a new version that is supposed to last longer. The yellow is also less bright, a bit more pale, and from my experience it's life time is shorter than the old one  :(
I went to the factory as second time after testing it to try and buy as many old rolls as I could but someone beat me to it, so there's apparently no more left and I doubt they'll be making it anymore. Perhaps websites still have them in stock, I need to have a look. Maybe we could do a petition for the return of the string and the g2  :-D
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: K on April 02, 2009, 03:51:22 AM
I can get about 1-2 weeks with it. Granted I diabolo for almost 2 hours every day I can. Thinking of replacing my string soon anyway. But I want to 2 diabolo at busking and I can only 2 diabolo out of a throw start and im not very good at those XD

-K
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Diabolo88 on April 02, 2009, 11:31:35 AM
Quote
Maybe we could do a petition for the return of the string and the g2  :-D

Not until you have had a petition for the old Henrys string ;). I have had extensive practice now with the new type and it´s nowhere near as good as it used to be.

Quote
What's the difference?

Mr.D. Where do you have that choice? Is there a website that still has old Henrys string?
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Mr.D on April 09, 2009, 08:48:46 AM
Mr.D. Where do you have that choice? Is there a website that still has old Henrys string?
I'm guessing the flecked string is the new one?

Not flecked (http://www.oddballs.co.uk/diabolos-diabolo-string-c-1194_1509.html)
Flecked (http://www.firetoys.co.uk/juggling/diabolo_string.html#25mrollofHenry'sdiabolostring-yellow(grey fleck))


EDIT: flecked string is new...
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: martijn on April 09, 2009, 11:14:17 AM
Nope, Henry's flecked string is the new stuff!
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Revo on September 28, 2010, 08:20:04 PM
Hey, I'm kind of new to the diabolo (2 months I think), But I'm having a real problem with the string in general.

It only really happened on chinese whip thrusts, when the diabolo decides to just wrap up and climb the string. Even when I know the string is an 'open' wrap (opposed to the string rubbing against itself in a wrap) it still happened. I just put this down to fuzzy string; from new it lasted 2 weeks.

So I changed  the string. But now I don't have enough friction for a 2d wrap start; I wrap the second one, give it a slight spin, reach for the handstick, and it's already collided with the first.

My set up includes: Henrys carbon handsticks, Henrys green string, and 2 Henrys Circus'.

Is there something wrong with what I'm using? Am I meant to be changing my string every 2/3 weeks?
Any help or advice would be brilliant. Thanks.
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: Cand1ez on October 03, 2010, 02:19:59 PM
I have 2 sets of sticks.
One for 1D - New string
And one for 2D -old string.
And it works on a rota so when i replace the 2D string the 1D string is used for 2D.
I change the string every 2 weeks probably.

THinking of getting third set for 3D - supppper worn in.
Title: Re: How long does your string last?
Post by: 4leek24 on October 04, 2010, 03:44:36 AM
well i change my string every week
or sometimes faster
it depends on what you're doing and how much you practice
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