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Title: Favourite Diabolo Poll 2005-2007
Post by: Sean on March 09, 2005, 04:42:29 PM
There have been a number of questions recently about what diabolos people prefer.

I thought it might be interesting to see what the distribution of diabolo preference is for the wide variety of diabolists on this forum.

If you're interested, vote for your favourite diabolo, and if you wish, add a short message about why you prefer that diabolo.

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There are many threads on reasons why people prefer one type of diabolo over another. A few that come to mind are:

http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=3 (Equipment Sticky)
http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=86 (Plastic vs. Rubber cups)
http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=30 (Yohos)
http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=358 (Wide axled Finesses)
http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=355 (Alternatives to Henrys, Babache, Yoho)

Sean
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Sean on March 12, 2005, 03:16:19 AM
Hey, good idea, Sean! Why don't I start out.   ::)

For me it's hard to say which kind of diabolo I prefer overall. I chose normal axled finesses.

For 1 and 2 diabolos I love wide axled finesses, especially for grinds of any kind, s-fans, and the overall feel of the diabolo.

For 3 diabolos high and low I like circuses the best. I find them the most stable and the extra weight makes the movements more obvious. I can only correct 3 diabolos with circus diabolos and the pattern is more relaxed. Edit - Finesse G2's feel much more like circuses and I can correct 3 diabolos low and high with them (normal axles) similarly to circuses.

I like the teflon hubs (wide or normal width) infinitely more than the original henrys metal hubs because of the feeling on the string, the decreased wear on the string, better grinding, and the slightly decreased weight.

So, why would I choose normal axled finesses as my favourite? It took me a while to get used to the slimmer profile and reduced weight, but it's the only diabolo that I like for 1, 2, and 3 diabolos and it's nice to not have to change diabolos all the time.

Sean
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: seán_ on March 12, 2005, 03:37:42 AM
I've punted for normal circus. I really like them with teflon wide and teflon replacement  hubs but since I dont have any yet I stuck with old faithfull. I'm hoping to get some teflon hubs one day, maybe at the British or from Europe, they definately make an excellant diabolo even better.

I also use finesse G1 with wide axles and 6g weights. I learnt to do without the weights but wish I had have had them when I was transitioning from circus. I had a play with Matt_H's plain G2 tonight and they are really nice (it was very strange using narrow axles again).

It's hard to go wrong with circus they are just really nice diabolos, good spin, good balance and a joy to use. I find them easier to correct with two because of the shape and can seem to get out of more tricky situations with them (and dont hurt myself as much with them.

Basically I'm glad I have the choice of diabolos for different reasons. I wouldn't like to have to give up either kind.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on March 12, 2005, 06:00:19 AM
i chose henry's with regular axles, the only diabolos that come near it are the henry's with teflon axles but i guess i don't like them because they still feel foreign. to be fair i've never tried a finesse but i'd love to get one with a wide axle (finger grinds baby!!). i've also tried renegades (odd...but sucks), henry's jazz (too small), henry's beach (too light and still small), the harlequin (heavy...), a spiniabolo or whatever (bizarre...but spins fast) and there was also this really godawful POS kind of diabolo that Hall-sensei has with brass axles and thick, hard plastic cups.

overall, it's all about henry's. but when i can ill be getting a finesse or two.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: martijn on March 12, 2005, 10:03:10 AM
wide axled Finesse vote! :D

After using Henry's circus a lot, I bought 2 Finesses G2 with wide axle. I tried Arjan's G1's before, and I really loved the wide axle. Now I don't use my Circus anymore, it's too heavy since I'm used to Finesses. I use my Finesses for everything! (I can't do 3d yet, so maybe that will change someday)

I really like to try the teflon hubs for the Circus, cause it seems like a nice improvement on the Circus diabolo's. 8)
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Arjan on March 12, 2005, 12:10:02 PM
I would have said finesses with wide axle. But recently I switched my 3 finesses back to normal again, for doing 3 and excalibur. It makes more sense for me to pick normal at this moment.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Mattias on March 12, 2005, 12:18:24 PM
Voted for Circus as that is the only diabolo i have any advanced experience with, besides Eagle which is better than the circus for grinding, I am hoping to test out a Finesse at the NJC in a couple of weeks though.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: kragen on March 13, 2005, 12:00:54 PM
When i was starting off I really liked the weight of the harlequins & the grippyness of the axel - It seemed to make things easier and I felt I had a lot of control, when I first got my finesse it felt far too light - I almost couldnt feel the diabolo, but I've gotten used to it now and it feels so much better doing 1D with the finesse - it's so much more responsive, and harlequin feels sluggish and cumbersome now.

I'm currently having the same thing again with 2D - the weight of the diabolo and the grippyness of the axel makes the 2D shuffle easier, I couldnt do the shuffle with the finesse through lack of feeling - but I was managing fine with the harlequin's.

Every now and then I do borrow someone elses finesse to have a play with the 2D shuffle and although it feels strange (I can actualy do the shuffle now :P) I can see myself getting used to it and eventualy preferring it.

I think the heavier grippyer diabolo are good initially, but as soon as you get used to using a lighter diabolo it feels much more responsive - you wont want to go back :P

I always have the wide axels on my finesse, it makes the axel exceptionaly slipery but I find myself doing finger grinds all the time when im bored and cant think of something else to try!

Just to point out - I havnt even had a go on a circus before, - im just comparing what I know :P
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: norbi on March 13, 2005, 04:00:00 PM
Where is G2, i like G2 a lot (infact they are quickly becoming my favourite) but i dont like G1's. You only specified Finesses, not which gen.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Sean on March 13, 2005, 04:48:34 PM
Quote from: norbi
You only specified Finesses, not which gen.

Yes, because the G2s are obviously an improvement over the G1. I can't see any valid or educated reason why someone who has tried both G1s and G2s would prefer G1s over G2s and hence it is redundant to include and would not provide any useful information.

We're not asking for what diabolo do you use but what diabolo do you think is the best overall. If you only like G2s, that's great, it's the finesse of the present and future and your vote counts. If someone likes G1s that person will like G2s even more and their vote would remain with finesse.

This is similar reasoning to why I chose not to include the original circus metal hubs as a separate category vs. the improved teflon hubs.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: norbi on March 13, 2005, 08:19:27 PM
Well that's a pretty darn good reason, yeh i love the new G2's, they are amazing (although i dont actually have any yet, i want white but they arent releasing them until all the G1s are sold out)

I did reall like Ryo's DiaBig, but havnt played with them enough to know if i prefer them to the others, i probably would though.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: seán_ on March 13, 2005, 08:30:54 PM
there should be some diabig/yohos floating around at Sheffield next weekend, I'm looking forward to seeing what they are like.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: w35ku on March 22, 2005, 08:22:21 PM
Mod Edit - Message moved to this relevant thread. w35ku, please read through this thread for people's past answers.

What is the best diabolo?
i have head that the best is Henry's Circus, do u think so ?
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: darren2dream on March 22, 2005, 09:21:15 PM
Well I’ll throw my vote out there, I’ve been lurking for quite a while but havent posted yet...

I’m a fan of the Yoho (normal axle) Diabolo’s and chimed in here as I saw not many others mentioning Yoho yet.
Sure the Circus is a fantastic choice and I like them, but for the price, anyone who wants a Diabolo and does not want to spend a fortune could pick up a Yoho and  still get totally quality equipment. I truly enjoy them and see no reason yet to switch to anything else.

The Yoho ratchet Diabolo are quieter than the Spintastic for sure & spin plenty long enough for any trick Im trying to learn (which is the only time I use one). It does tend to loosen up at times after extended play but it just a quick twist of the wrist to get it tight again..
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Darkstar on March 22, 2005, 09:26:51 PM
Well, I would say the Harlequin (as its the only one I have!) but I really want to try a Finesse, to get to grips with a larger diabolo.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: seán_ on March 22, 2005, 11:03:56 PM
I'm dieing to get my hands on some yoho fixed axles for a try. They do sound like a great diabolo and the price is great. Ryo Yabe uses them, definately up there in most peoples lists of great diaboloists YOHO should be selling them hand over fist yet I have never seen them. David LH (UK and Europe seller/distributer) was going to bring some to Sheffield but unfortunately he did not make it (I don't mean that because I didn't get to try the yoho's but because you missed a great convention).

for those interested see the sales pitch in some of the threads Sean mentions above and check the links sticky (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=2) to find the YOHO sites.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Sean on March 23, 2005, 08:36:48 PM
I've had a discussion with Ryo a number of times about the virtues of circus diabolos and yoho/diabig fixed axle diabolos.

He likes both circus diabolos with teflon hubs and yoho/diabig fixed axle diabolos. He uses both of these diabolos although he tends to use the yoho/diabigs now.

He explained that with teflon axles on the circuses, both types of diabolos feel almost the same. The only reason he prefers to use the yoho/diabigs is because of the slippery material the cups are made of. If 2 circus diabolos touch each other with their sticky rubber cups all hell breaks loose. If 2 yoho/diabigs touch each other not much happens at all.

As has been mentioned,  Yohos are dirt cheap diabolos. Unfortunately finding local dealers can be challenging. I've previously worked out that even with the costs of shipping and duty taxes it would be cheaper to have 3 Yohos shipped from the factory in Australia than to buy 3 Henrys locally.

Maybe someday I'll get around to ordering some.  8)

Sean
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: norbi on March 23, 2005, 11:17:19 PM
Quote from: Sean
I've previously worked out that even with the costs of shipping and duty taxes it would be cheaper to have 3 Yohos shipped from the factory in Australia than to buy 3 Henrys locally.


Well that sounds like a pretty freakin good reason to get some. I might have to look into it.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Jester on March 24, 2005, 10:36:30 AM
First I got Given a Harlequin

Then I wanted to learn two So i ordered another

Now I'm Learning Three

But I'm Hearing about this Finesse G2
It sounds like its the shiznic

I certainly don't know any locals with one but cause of all the talk I might consider just ordering a couple (and have to learn to do two all over again)  

Where's a site for ordering G2's?
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: seán_ on March 24, 2005, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: Jester

Where's a site for ordering G2's?


Here (http://www.google.com/) ;)

or http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=11 the G2 thread, some shops get a mention in here but most shops should be able get you some now.

Any Australian (http://www.jugglingdb.com/vendors/index.php?country=13) Juggling shop that carries Mr Babache products should be able to get hold of one for you.
HTH
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: mg542 on September 20, 2005, 01:34:13 AM
well since i've never tried a finesse or a circus :P ill have to say i love my goa stages. they are well balanced and are exactly as rigid as i like. that is for both 1 and 2 diabolo.
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: J_J777 on September 20, 2005, 02:54:27 AM
finese g2 own :D  I might be bias but I love them.... ok maybe that might have gone a little far but harlequins hate me and I hate them and those are the only other kind that I have tried except for millenium  (like 2 and a half inch) and I hate those too... so lol
Title: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Dracodragon on September 20, 2005, 03:59:21 AM
i perfer my henrys circuses with the teflon hubs. They are balanced diabolos and i have grown to like them. Although i tried out the finesses G1(still wanna try g2) and i can say that they are also pretty good. Finesses are great for the fans and sfans, when i tried it out, I had like a 2 or 3 times longer sfan than with the henrys! :shock:  But I am always down with my circuses.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Jeppesen on October 22, 2006, 04:30:40 PM
i like cirkus with allrou8nd tuning kits;D
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Diabolo88 on October 27, 2006, 04:20:42 PM
Used to use Henrys with teflon hubs, but now it´s Diabigs all the way. They do feel similar to Circus Diabolos in a few ways, but the extra weight makes them a lot more stable and also, they accelrate very fast. They are (in my opinion) the best for three (and four) Diabolos and they are easily the best choice for anyone who likes whip-duicides ;)

About the new type...I dont know :(
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Christopher on October 28, 2006, 02:42:55 AM
i like yoho diabigs too, good for sprinklers, fans and fast spins.  But tricky to clean.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: One-Shot-Kill on November 27, 2006, 09:25:47 PM
Hi everyone, I'm knew but I've been doing diabolos for a while. I'd have to say my favourite type of diabolo would be the finesse (medium axel) because it's like mega awesome with doing 2 and 3 (can only just do it kehe) and also one of course. I have 2 harlequins and when I bought this I was really happy because it's so much lighter than harlequins and they don't really tilt or anything. So I sugest that anyone who reads this buys a finesse because they are AWESOME!!!!  8)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Steve-O on December 21, 2006, 10:11:08 PM
I like the Finesse and Circus equally. The Finesse is lighter and therefore better for practicing longer, but the circus holds speed a little bit better and I find it better for grinds, also for my 2 circus's. Also I bought two twist sets so I can try finger grinds.

-Matt
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: scottp45 on December 26, 2006, 04:14:13 PM
I like harliquins! I only have 1 diabolo and its a harliquin. Personally, i'd like to get a circus and a finesse, as they are good diabolos!I lik harliquins bcause they tell me what speed my diabolo is going at  ;D.

scott
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: diabolo boy 101 on December 29, 2006, 07:53:41 PM


GO HB LAVA TEK DIABOLO
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Matt D on January 08, 2007, 08:21:43 PM
I like Henry's Circus with a wide axle and teflon cups. This makes the diabolo lighter and better for grinds. I also like Finesse G2's for 2d. I haven't tried the wide axled Finesses so that is why I said Wide axle Circus as my favorite.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: merripp on January 21, 2007, 05:45:51 PM
yeh circus are best and wide axle is really usefull 4 grinds and stuff but finesse r good 2 but circus all the way   :D
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: jammy on February 06, 2007, 02:16:27 PM
i use finesse G2s and think there great,but after having ago of ginger toms Diabig with normal axles,i could change my mind very soon! they seem to spin up easyier.  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Steve-O on February 06, 2007, 05:25:28 PM

yeh circus are best and wide axle is really usefull 4 grinds and stuff but finesse r good 2 but circus all the way   :D


use the full word because not all can understand what you are saying when you type in crazy computer lingo


but any way i love  my finesse g1 with a wide axel even though the sharp edges are very painful
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Beni on February 06, 2007, 09:47:25 PM

use the full word because not all can understand what you are saying when you type in crazy computer lingo


but any way i love  my finesse g1 with a wide axel even though the sharp edges are very painful


...says the living punctuation nightmare :D.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: apd.squeaky on February 12, 2007, 04:12:48 AM
I'm new...
I don't actually have my own diabolo yet (I've been using a friend's), but I like the sound of the circus and the finesse.  I'm hoping to finally get my own soon, so I checked out this thread and found brands I've heard of (in particular, the harlequin, circus, and finesse).  However, I also noticed some other ones I've heard of and have never gotten a review on (ex: HB Lava Tek), which is good too.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Rastaman on March 29, 2007, 01:53:06 PM
Hmm, i would say Henrys circus with normal width axel. And i also use Harlequin. I think i gotta get myself a second Henrys soon to try out 2d stuff. but that´s a matter of time when ill be able to shuffle 2d. But yea again, I put my money on Henrys Circus( normal axel)!  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on April 09, 2007, 01:18:20 AM
hmm, was thinking about buying 3 finesses, but after reading this i think ill stick to yoho for now. the harlequin i tried a couple of years ago was too heavy and wasnt good for playing for a long time. and the only finesse ive played with had lights in it, but i still liked it. and circus diabolos played very similar to yohos. i just want some wide axles for my yohos
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Matt? on April 14, 2007, 01:59:56 PM
I just got mself a couple of Yoho's after having used twor finesse for 5 months and i love them! so smooth, brilliant for 1 and 2d, pretty much perfect!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Marijn on April 14, 2007, 04:21:55 PM
i still dont get what the difference is between en diabolo and a yoho >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: -Leo- on April 14, 2007, 04:49:44 PM

i still dont get what the difference is between en diabolo and a yoho >:(


< sarcasm>Well a diabolo is the general term for two cups and an axel (respect) and YOHO is the brand name of a diabolo manufacturer.< /sarcasm>

I'll assume you meant YOHO and a Diabig ;)
Basically it's just the name. Some people reckon that Diabig's are more stable but in my opinion the difference is minimal.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on April 15, 2007, 05:32:52 AM
im starting to really not like my yohos!!! so wonky, ive tried putting good cups on one diabolo, which kinda worked, means one diabolo is almost unusable. cant decide if i want circus' or finesses, both have pros and cons. were getting a mass load of yoho stock soon, so i might just choose some good balanced ones.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on April 24, 2007, 07:58:14 AM
changing my mind again. ive been playing with finesses and harlequins, and finesse sucks! too narrow in the centre and total width. harlequins are ok.
what are the pros and cons of circus' (before i buy 3 of them) ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: William on April 24, 2007, 12:15:11 PM
Well recently I was using some jumbo Yoho's that had grooves in the axle. I think they felt really smooth.

And also Miesta. Can you still buy Jumbo Yohos directly from Yoho? Cause I can't find anywhere to order from on the site. If not where? And what colours do they have available?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Rastaman on April 24, 2007, 01:58:51 PM

 what are the pros and cons of circus' (before i buy 3 of them)


Henrys circus.
Pros:
Nice speed maintaining.
Strong axles.
Good bowl material.
Good balance and good axle and bowl connector (The ring that is under the screw inside the bowl)

Cons:
Stock axle is narrow.
Stock axle eats string :)
Metal axle may damage sticks on grind.

Cant think much more cons or pros about my little sweety  ;D (Henrys Circus black). But there are always pros and cons for all types of diabolos so you just have to find the best for you  :) Hope i gave some good advice.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on April 24, 2007, 11:49:30 PM
thanks capt jack, why does it chew up string? is it rough?


Well recently I was using some jumbo Yoho's that had grooves in the axle. I think they felt really smooth.

And also Miesta. Can you still buy Jumbo Yohos directly from Yoho? Cause I can't find anywhere to order from on the site. If not where? And what colours do they have available?

is this a trick question, even im getting confused with the differences in yoho, diabig, jumbo. i thought they all had grooves in the axle. i think yoho just say you can buy them at toyshops like toyworld (but they only sell small). we sell large yohos for A$40 in...blue, green, red, orange, yellow, black, glow, sometimes white, and purple glitter. site is www.psycus.com, but its getting old and there are no contact details there.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: William on April 25, 2007, 03:42:37 AM
Okay Cheers Miesta. I might order some when I get the $$. How much is shipping?
The hubs "Chew up string" probably from Aluminum sticks hitting the stock Aluminum hubs. So if you have Metal Sticks you might might some different hubs.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: OLOBAID on April 25, 2007, 12:45:02 PM
just saw in the poll that there is one vote for yoho/diabig with ratchet(!), really would like to get some details about it... i guess this would be the perfect diab for excalibur!!! thanks for any infos!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: nev on April 25, 2007, 01:52:06 PM

just saw in the poll that there is one vote for yoho/diabig with ratchet(!), really would like to get some details about it...


That would be a Yoho Superspin - unfortunately they are no longer made - though you may find some Australian shops may still have some old stock (try kite shops etc as well as juggling ones).

& yes they are nice for vertax (I used them in the diabolo.ca collaboration video for the washing line bounce etc)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Rastaman on April 25, 2007, 03:53:27 PM

thanks capt jack, why does it chew up string? is it rough?


Hmm ill try to explain. the edges of the axle are kinda sharp at the beginning( not like knife is sharp  :)) But maybe it was jus a problem of my circus but it wore off after some nicely landed stick grinds ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Pete on April 25, 2007, 05:35:38 PM
just thought i'd make an observation of the diagram of peoples votes, as a finesse lover. f you add the Normal Circuses to the Wide axel circuses, and add the Normal finesses to the wide axel finesses. then you get Circuses:94 and Finesse:91. Which then makes the diagram look a little deceiving i would have thought, it makes the finesse look like it much further behind that it actually is. ;) Just a thought for finesses lovers like myself.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: spanerman on April 25, 2007, 09:20:45 PM
it means the circus is better stock :P
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: nev on April 25, 2007, 10:06:19 PM
I'd like to know what peoples "others" are?  I'm surprised they outnumber Diabigs (though after BJC the yohos may make a surge ::))
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Chiok on April 25, 2007, 11:44:06 PM
At £12 a pop, I was seriously tempted.  Apparently they work pretty good too.  Though I'm always sceptical of harder plastic cups and the gouges that could develop from drops on tarmac.
I gotta get a 4th Circus though, don't wanna use my signature one anymore.

Chiok
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: martijn on April 26, 2007, 10:09:24 AM
I don't think the poll is that accurate anymore, because it's quite old... More people have tried the Yoho's and bearing diabolos since the poll was created. Heck, I probably even voted for wide axled Finesses back then :P
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: OLOBAID on April 26, 2007, 11:14:37 AM
i think you are right - maybe a new poll would be nice, with a seperate poll for vertax...

thx for the infos, nev :) i already contacted some australian shops.
are the superspins very noisy when spinning at high speeds?
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: nev on April 26, 2007, 08:34:49 PM
No - they are the quietest of all the bearing diabolos I've tried.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on April 27, 2007, 06:43:00 AM
the renegade diabolos seem very popular! lol :P
ive used a superspin, but i was just learning then (cant remember much)
maybe a new poll could be made after g3's are released everywhere. just got some new circus diabs ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: dan dia on May 02, 2007, 07:26:47 AM
iv'e punted for a normal finese whit normal axel 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Matt? on May 09, 2007, 07:12:20 PM
I got some Yohos at the BJC because they were 12 quid a pop and they rule! so nige for...well everything. but now i have fly diabs and well...need i say more? hehe
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Akse on May 21, 2007, 01:19:58 PM
Heh!

I love the idea!
I took the wide axel finesse because i like doing 1 diabolo tricks and my favorites are grinds.
Like Erick
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: k2pek2 on June 11, 2007, 01:36:05 AM
got my hands on a circus today, can't really see why everybody says its so good. but i hear that there's a friend of mine with a finesse g3! i can't wait to see what its like compared to the g2.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on June 11, 2007, 05:18:22 AM
would be good to add the fly diabolo to the list, maybe thats what the 'other' diabolos are?
martijn is right, the poll is so old (9th march 2005). new one?
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: William on June 12, 2007, 01:18:44 AM
Yeah I don't think it would be a bad idea to make a new thread.. I probably voted for Henry's beach back then ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: OLOBAID on June 12, 2007, 10:26:39 AM
substract one vote for wide finesses, i would vote for the wide flys now!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Alex! on June 12, 2007, 10:57:14 AM
i would vote for the wide flys now!

I think everyone would!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: doiabolo (joe) on June 12, 2007, 05:06:13 PM
i wouldnt
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: David - SAS1 on June 12, 2007, 05:14:46 PM
I would definitely change my vote from finesse to fly and I also think it would be a good idea to reset/restart the poll
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: martijn on June 12, 2007, 06:18:29 PM
Yeah, good idea. Perhaps it's best to wait a little longer? because only a small group of people have tried the Fly's.

But yeah, good plan :)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: David - SAS1 on June 25, 2007, 11:12:16 PM
Why isn't there a remove vote button like on the fly diabolo pole, this would allow people to change their minds while still showing the general preferences of the diabolo community
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: OLOBAID on June 27, 2007, 12:12:42 AM
hmm, yeah the remove vote thing is nice(not to say neccecary) for polls like that! i think with this option availible its about time to reset the whole thing and add all kinds of diabolos that are missing like flys(fixed and bearingy) and the continentals... also all the different tuning kits that are availible for circus(and others?)like the ultra leicht kit from JC and the TK2 should be in the poll imo!

oh, and the same thing for handsticks would be great ;D!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: martijn on June 27, 2007, 12:34:25 PM
I agree, I don't know why that wasn't an option when this poll was created. However, I'd suggest starting a new thread with the new poll and the "edit vote" option. And I think it's a great idea to do the same for sticks and string!

Here are the options I think are appropriate. Please tell me if I forgot something important!

Henry's Circus
MB Finesse
MB Harlequin
Renegade
Yoho / Diabig
Fly
Tiabolo (Grand Continental)
Spintastics Spinabolo
4 inch diabolo (Jazz)
Other

Since the use of different generations, wide axles, weight kits or fixed vs. bearing would make this poll very big... I don't think we should add all the different options, but just the diabolo. The different kits are just a way of customizing your diabs anyway :)

Henry's alu
Henry's carbon/fibre
MB Extreme
MB Energy
Diamond sticks
Selfmade
Other

Henry's white
Henry's yellow
Henry's orange
Henry's green
MB white
MB yellow
MB pink
Other
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Sean on June 27, 2007, 12:44:00 PM
Sounds good. I will set that up. There isn't an option to delete or change your vote because this was set up back when we were on the phpBB forum and no such options existed!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: OLOBAID on June 27, 2007, 01:01:00 PM
oh, i would add at least the option "Circus modded" to the poll.

because in fact there are worlds between a stock and a modded circus!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: martijn on June 27, 2007, 01:57:13 PM
Yeah I know... just read the option 'Circus' as: "Circus with either original metal hubs or replacement teflon hubs, curved hubs or wide axle" :P

And yeah, that makes sense Sean, SMF is so much better!
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Marijn on July 14, 2007, 06:27:20 PM
i just ordered two circus diabolo's (circi???) :o

My finesse's are o.k., but i just couldnt resist getting circi since they feel like 1000× nicer than Finesse's :-\  :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: SilentScreamer on July 14, 2007, 07:58:17 PM
i just ordered two circus diabolo's

Where?!?!

I'm searching for a good Dutch webshop for Diabolo's

See also this tread: http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=3172.0
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Marijn on July 14, 2007, 08:06:25 PM
Where?!?!

I'm searching for a good Dutch webshop for Diabolo's

See also this tread: http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=3172.0

http://www.eenwieler.nl/productgroup.php?idObject=597
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: SilentScreamer on July 14, 2007, 08:48:41 PM
http://www.eenwieler.nl/productgroup.php?idObject=597

I was already on that site :D , but they don't have there Finesse G3's  :-[
If you know another shop where they have them, please comment again :)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Marijn on July 20, 2007, 03:37:51 PM
how the ****ing hell is it possible to get my new henry circussen ''open'' to put the teflon hubs in it?? There is no tool i can get inside the cup, arghh
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: doiabolo (joe) on July 20, 2007, 04:04:19 PM
screwdriver kits with the small socket sets usualy do the job
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Marijn on July 20, 2007, 04:28:21 PM
damn i have to ****ing buy new tools to be able to get my teflon hubs on. Damn Henry's is gay for making them that way :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Dogstar on July 20, 2007, 04:44:14 PM
You will find a 10 mm spanner fits just fine -you may have to have 2 and hold on each side of the nut!! I have changed mine and it works fine.good luck dude
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Marijn on July 20, 2007, 06:04:16 PM
You will find a 10 mm spanner fits just fine -you may have to have 2 and hold on each side of the nut!! I have changed mine and it works fine.good luck dude

i bought a stupid tool-thingy. I did hold both nuts and could get my hubs on at last. Finesses are easier to work with ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Arjan on July 20, 2007, 06:12:51 PM
I'm sorry, Aaaaahhh!! You must have broken a finger nail using tools? Ahhh I'm so sorry for you!! Your a guy right?? Tell you what: Guys use tools!!!!

Come on, don't be spoiled with lazy but crappy Mr. Babache's but appreciate the proper german Mr. Henrys! (Or any other kind of diabolo)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Marijn on July 20, 2007, 06:21:36 PM
I'm sorry, Aaaaahhh!! You must have broken a finger nail using tools? Ahhh I'm so sorry for you!! Your a guy right?? Tell you what: Guys use tools!!!!

Come on, don't be spoiled with lazy but crappy Mr. Babache's but appreciate the proper german Mr. Henrys! (Or any other kind of diabolo)

Guys dont like biking through the pooring rain to buy a tool :-\

I did break my toe-nail last saterday tho, can barely walk

EDIT: Yeah i was annoying with my posts but it sucks when you come home, see your brand new diabolo's and cant get the hubs on them :-X

Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Eric Moffett on July 20, 2007, 06:26:07 PM
I'm sorry, Aaaaahhh!! You must have broken a finger nail using tools? Ahhh I'm so sorry for you!! Your a guy right?? Tell you what: Guys use tools!!!!

Come on, don't be spoiled with lazy but crappy Mr. Babache's but appreciate the proper german Mr. Henrys! (Or any other kind of diabolo)

I disagree ;) Mister Babache FTW, they include tools! Oh, and by the way German is a proper noun and needs capitalization ;D. Of course you will find something wrong with this statement I'm sure.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Arjan on July 20, 2007, 07:48:21 PM
Yeah your statement sucks! LOL

This is me trying to be correct and all: My favorite diabolo so far is Henry Circus! (capitalization on Henry or Circus? Not that I give a ****)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: martijn on July 20, 2007, 08:12:51 PM
Both, Henry's is the brand, Circus is it's product.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: JC on July 20, 2007, 08:38:09 PM
That´s right;-)
By the way, the most people know it as Henrys Circus
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: garner on August 30, 2007, 02:10:05 PM
finnesse is still in the lead by 0.1%
the way it should be
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Nahxela on August 30, 2007, 10:47:11 PM
finnesse is still in the lead by 0.1%
the way it should be

It is ??? On mine it looks like it's down by 6.6%...

Unless people really voted that much between the time you posted and I posted :o
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: looby on August 31, 2007, 01:33:25 AM
finnesse is still in the lead by 0.1%
the way it should be


bloody fanboy
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: J_J777 on August 31, 2007, 02:30:40 AM
It is ??? On mine it looks like it's down by 6.6%...

Unless people really voted that much between the time you posted and I posted :o

He's talking about the added percentages.  If you add the finesse percentages and subtract the circus percentages then you'll get 0.1.

Josh

finesse ftw
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: William on August 31, 2007, 03:33:03 AM
Finesse ftw

Hell yeah! I wouldn't mind some flys though.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on August 31, 2007, 07:37:08 AM
800 posts Will, your flys are here and waiting Will hehe
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Marijn on August 31, 2007, 09:49:35 AM
Hell yeah! I wouldn't mind some flys though.

i started with finesses but switched to circi about a month ago, i now wonder why in the world people would prefer finesses :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on August 31, 2007, 12:38:53 PM
Quote
i now wonder why in the world people would prefer finesses :-\
surely theyre insane! :D ive never liked finesses
fly has become my favourite diabolo ;)

edit: when's that new poll coming?
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: William on August 31, 2007, 01:56:58 PM
800 posts Will, your flys are here and waiting Will hehe

Haha. Oh yeah. I forgot about them  :-[ I don't know when I'll have the money. I have money now but it'll all probably be blown on MJC..
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Nahxela on September 01, 2007, 02:17:53 AM
He's talking about the added percentages.  If you add the finesse percentages and subtract the circus percentages then you'll get 0.1.

Josh

finesse ftw
Oh right, forgot to include the wide axled ones ::)

I don't like the finesse too much.
I like the customization and weight, but I hate it for vertax :-\, so I went and got a different diabolo for doing vertax that I prefer over the finesse.

The one I got is like a fly, and it's got the little "Ryo Yabe style diabolo" molded in the cups, but it's called a 三鈴 (Three Diabolo), so perhaps it was a prototype or something.
I got it in Taiwan where I was hoping to buy a Fly, since a friend of Yabe's that taught me for a day recommended them over the finesse (which I do prefer;)), but I was short 100NT :(
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Chiok on September 01, 2007, 11:56:21 AM
The diabolos I saw with "Ryo Yabe Style" written on the inside were some diabig-esque diabolos being sold at the BJC for a measly £12 a pop.  Dave Proctor bought 3 of them and found them quite nice, though he had to balance them out with some washers in the cups.

I'm happy with my Circuses though, I'm just a bit rubbish in general, I won't blame my equipment :-P

Chiok
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: SnowDan1 on September 01, 2007, 12:10:14 PM
Harlequin, because it's quite small but still heavy and easy to use. It's the most selling diabolo in Finland. And It's good looking!! ;D


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Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Ace_parsnip on September 04, 2007, 11:09:34 PM
i voted for the finesse as its so good at tricks but i do like heavy diabolos so i am also quite fond of the Harlequin
would love to have a go with a henrys circus though
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Nahxela on September 05, 2007, 12:16:14 AM
i voted for the finesse as its so good at tricks
Heh... I'm certain there are a number of people who'd beg to differ :D.

I don't like them much for vertax, since they aren't as effectively designed :-\
Especially with UFO type tricks
Although the customization is nice, that can still be competed with by the Circus, of course ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Ace_parsnip on September 05, 2007, 12:20:26 AM
well there good for my tricks because iam still newish to diabolos :D
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: BlackFire on September 06, 2007, 01:53:19 AM
ok so i have a question, my cousin jus introduced me to diabolos, she has a henry micro diabolo which is insanely smaller than the rest i was wonderin if any of you have any thoughts on how effective the micro is wit tricks and what not there isnt much out there about the micro so i came here. ???
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: J_J777 on September 06, 2007, 01:59:29 AM
It's not, you really have to get a decent sized diabolo to be able to do tricks well with it.  I reccommend 5 inch diabolos like the finesse or circus because they really are the way to go unless you want a fly or taibolo.

Josh
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Nahxela on September 07, 2007, 11:07:57 PM
Uh oh, looks like the circus and finesse are tied :o
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: R-J on September 08, 2007, 12:01:25 PM
both exactly 122 votes for circus and finesse :o
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Sean on September 08, 2007, 09:16:16 PM
I'm thinking we should close this and open a 2007-08 poll to see how trends have changed.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Nahxela on September 08, 2007, 11:06:02 PM
I'm thinking we should close this and open a 2007-08 poll to see how trends have changed.
Haha, I think that would be good, and some of the newer diabolo brands that have emerged should be included now ;)
Like the various Asian diabolos and such :D
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Eric Moffett on September 09, 2007, 12:16:46 AM
I would of course vote for Finesse, then get a diabolo I like better ::) afterwards (IE a Fly, or a Taibolo) so the ability to change your vote should be included
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Shaun on October 12, 2007, 12:12:49 PM
I'm thinking we should close this and open a 2007-08 poll to see how trends have changed.
Still thinking? :)
Since it's October already, maybe we could just wait a couple of months and start another one early 2008? Then it could be done precisely every year....or 2, just an idea ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Eric Moffett on October 14, 2007, 07:15:55 PM
omg! finesse is in the lead by 7 votes lol
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Sean on October 15, 2007, 01:33:10 AM
maybe we could just wait a couple of months and start another one early 2008? Then it could be done precisely every year....or 2
Sounds like a good idea. By then more people will have had a chance to try some of the newer brands as well.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: willum89 on October 15, 2007, 02:32:20 AM
Yay for "Other", here's what I'm using.
(https://webspace.utexas.edu/wucj1/yoyo/logo.gif)
Only thing i've used other than this is the plastic whistling chinese yo yos.
I have to say I don't really like this diabolo but it's all i've used so...."GO DIABOLO USED BY THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK OF WILLIAM'S CRAZY DIABOLO VIDEOS!!! YOU'VE GOT MY VOTE!!!"
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Vitor on October 25, 2007, 10:28:13 PM
Finesse G3 Normal Axel for the win!

It's a great diabolo, and I have 2!

WOOT!

Vitor.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Diabolo88 on October 29, 2007, 12:10:03 PM
I love my old Diabigs (the ones that´re actually called Diabig) becuase they are so all-round. Good for handgrinds, good weight for getting spread on whip/duicides, stable and easy to throw, easy to correct.

Recently though I´ve also taken a liking to wideaxled Fly´s with weightkits, but they didn´t get a vote because they´re slightly more difficult to control. Their wide axle is good for 3D though.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: fzzyrn on November 30, 2007, 05:24:46 AM
i'm a finesse g3 kinda guy. I couldn't live without them.
I tried a circus once, but i felt it was sort of uncooperative in a way, you know?

But renegades.......what the hell kind of idea was that? They're quite possibly the worst design i've ever seen
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: aznalien on December 23, 2007, 01:41:10 AM
anyone have a say with flys compared to finesse?
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: dashpops on December 30, 2007, 12:08:12 PM
wots a renegade??????
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: nev on December 30, 2007, 05:06:05 PM
This is a renegade http://www.diabolotricks.com/wii-Renegade.html.

Hard plastic cups and quite heavy - if you drop them a lot, you may want to invest in earplugs as the noise can be heard miles away.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Niclas on December 30, 2007, 05:16:37 PM
+ they are really old.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: TomMiller on December 30, 2007, 05:17:35 PM
there isnt sundia diablos on the poll :(
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Niclas on December 30, 2007, 05:20:07 PM
Or taibolo.
Maybe time for a new poll.
Title: Re: Favourite Diabolos
Post by: Sean on December 30, 2007, 05:48:47 PM
there isnt sundia diablos on the poll :(
Yes it's an old poll... from before Sundia diabolos existed. I will post a 2008 version in January and end this poll. Then we can watch how trends change over the years.
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