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Title: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: Catjar on October 16, 2009, 12:19:17 AM
I know i could've delved a little deeper into the thread pages, but I want to know what a good editing program is, and a lot of the posts i'm seeing suggest iMovie.  My camera, even though i like it, has a fatal flaw: it's very very difficult if not impossible to get the camera files into iMovie.
I got that VideoSpin editing software, and that was okay, even though it punched the quality in the face and didn't have any video effects, and then it turned out it was just a 15 day trial.

suggest anything good, I'd be willing to pay at least a little... as long as it doesn't blow.
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: luabduch on October 16, 2009, 01:49:10 AM
I'm using ulead video studio and is really good!
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: Sean on October 16, 2009, 04:53:07 AM
Nothing wrong with iMovie. Depends a bit which version you have since it's changed a fair bit over the last few years, but they're all decent. You aren't going to find anything better without spending a fair bit of money. Plus, whatever problems you are having bringing in your video may be just the same with many other editing programs.

I'd suggest you open your video file in this program:
http://mediainfo.massanti.com/ (http://mediainfo.massanti.com/)

And then spend some time googling your video format and iMovie. You may need to pre-convert your files in a program like: MPEG Streamclip (http://www.squared5.com/)

I'd work that out first and do some editing in iMovie. If you insist on spending money on something else at this point, you might want to look into some of the home/express versions of some of the big name software. Final Cut Express for example. A whole lot cheaper for nearly the same product... unless you really know what you're doing you may not even notice a difference. Perhaps you are also eligible for a student discount?

But still - figure it out in iMovie!
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: jordak on March 12, 2010, 04:43:30 AM
I'm currently using windows live movie maker, but I intend to switch to http://linuxcrunch.com/content/early-look-vlmc (http://linuxcrunch.com/content/early-look-vlmc) as soon as a stable version comes out. For some other good options for various prices check out this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software)

I'm sure that there is something out there that will meet your needs. If you're like most casual video editing guys, you can probably find something effective and user friendly for free.

Hope this was helpful
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: Nico on March 12, 2010, 12:15:33 PM
I m using Final Cut Express on Mac and I am completely satisfied with it. Very intuitive, some nice effects and transitions, support HD formats... What else!? :)
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: christoi on March 12, 2010, 09:20:07 PM
here is a comparison of different editing programs

windows movie maker - free for windows, basic timeline, (one layer at a time) effects, transition etc.
pinnacle - I'm not sure about this one but costs about 50 euros and is good for a diabolo video but I believe it is is simmilar to imovie in terms of how advanced it is
sony vegas - very advanced but costs around 500 euros, more than what is needed for a diabolo video
adobe premiere elements - fairly cheap,  around 100 euros and is advanced enough for a diabolo video
adobe premiere pro - simmilar to sony vegas, very advanced, premiere elements is the "lite" version of this (around 750 euros)
adobe after effects- My friend gave me this program for free and I can say it is way more advanced than any other program. Everything is manual and you can change mostly anything. problem is it costs about 1000 euros

pinnacle - http://www.pinnaclesys.com (http://www.pinnaclesys.com)
sony vegas - http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro)
adobe - http://www.adobe.com (http://www.adobe.com)

I do not know if this counts for premiere elements too but if you are going for one of the adobe products, they are cs4 and cs5 is comming in april and upgrade for after effects cost about 100 euros...

hope it helps  ;)
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: Catjar on March 13, 2010, 04:31:05 PM
just so you know, I do have a good editing software now. I did post question a while ago.
Still, there's no problem with posting it because other people can read it.
Which is why i'll post some stuff too.
I have Magix movie something or other 16.  It cost $60 (USD), but it's really good I think if you are serious about editing (perhaps for even more than just diabolo videos) then it's worth it.
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: jordak on March 14, 2010, 11:07:38 PM
I'm currently downloading avidemux for windowshttp://avidemux.razorbyte.com.au/ (http://avidemux.razorbyte.com.au/)

I plan on using it to do voice dubbing, subtitling, and slow-motioning in making tutorials.

I realize that I don't yet have the skill to out-diabolo some of the guys cranking out videos, but I think I can out-teach them. Most of the trick tutorials I have seen feature some guy talking to the camera, demonstrating, and wishing you good luck. I plan on making a more professional video that is presented better than that.

Windows movie maker won't cut it for that as you can only add in one audio track.

Sorry for slight off topic.
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: Hathaway on March 14, 2010, 11:12:26 PM
Whilst movie maker isn't any good for more than one audio track, reaper which is a free audio program is very good also for dubbing over video if i recall...
Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: Toddyupa on March 30, 2010, 10:30:44 PM
Does the iMovie change every year? I know it comes with Macs, and I'm getting one next year, so I'm wondering if there are differences in the new iMovies. I would like something other than iMovie HD, so if it's different to that, then I'm satisfied. If not, then I'm lookinng at some of the good options on the thread.

Title: Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
Post by: Sean on March 31, 2010, 02:27:04 PM
It changes with every release of iLife.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMovie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMovie)

These things are never certain with Apple until they happen, but yes, there will probably be an iLife 2010.
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