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Title: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 01, 2008, 01:54:24 PM
Edit by Sean, November 12 2009:
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This is one of many "I just learnt to..." threads which was started (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=591.msg5823#msg5823) by mrbpink (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=279) back in 2005. Its intended purpose was as follows:

When you learn a new trick you want to show it and tell others that you have achieved something new. This is a thread where you can tell about your latest achievements, doesn't matter if its the string climb or a solid four diabolo shuffle you just learnt, tell us about it! And let others be inspired by what you do!
The original "I just learnt to..." thread wasn the most popular thread on the forum. Long forum threads induce an extra burden on the forum database server, so to keep things running smoothly around here I have started archiving these threads by year.

If you really feel like reading them all, there are about 1000 posts per year (2009 (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=7318), 2008 (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=7317), 2007 (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=7316), 2006 (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=7315), 2005 (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=591)). There may also be more years of threads since this message was written. Have a look around. Otherwise, just post in the most recent version of this thread. It should be near the top of the Tricks (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?board=21.0) section. It almost always is.

Sean
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Original message follows:
Have now landed some all new duicide variations 8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on January 01, 2008, 07:38:18 PM
Woot 1 trick down bomb loads more to go, just got the fritz release down! :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 01, 2008, 10:40:07 PM
3d sun 13 ott afterward trid a seft stop on the 14th catch but on fell out of the 2d shuffle.
EDIT:42 sun with about 18 otts afterwards but a failed selfstop.
ANOTHER EDIT: 3 catches after a suicide!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 02, 2008, 12:59:12 PM
I made some progress on my fan, I don't catapulte away 1 diabolo immediatly after the vortex enrty ::)

EDIT: I qualified a fan with vortex entry, but it was short and ****ty looking.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mellowscholar on January 02, 2008, 02:34:37 PM
Genocides.
Little stick grindy, finger grindy, throw into the string - combo type thing.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on January 02, 2008, 05:20:27 PM
I can do Vortex now! I tried it today and it was so easy!!!!!! ;D

Thanks to everyone who has helped me! ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on January 03, 2008, 12:32:37 AM
i kno these triks are like standard now.. but i havent learned them cause i was using the WRONG HAND!! GAHH. i was using the wrng hand for genocide variations on the release... and also the wrng hand for inf. suicides.. i feel kinda dumb T.T
but its all good now!! ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 03, 2008, 01:37:34 AM
i was using the wrng hand for genocide variations on the release... and also the wrng hand for inf. suicides.. i feel kinda dumb T.T
There is no wrong hand for genocides, in every direction from each hand, genocides have been done. ???
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 03, 2008, 02:20:20 AM
Another Eiffel Tower ::) Why does all my slack mistakes have to lead to an Eiffel Tower?!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 03, 2008, 05:29:58 AM
3D around the leg for a qualify or two..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 03, 2008, 08:40:15 AM
-sigh- Another Eiffel Tower, why does g*d curse me with such invention WHY!? Actually about 4 Eiffel Towers, only one that's worth a d*mn is the right side up one that doesn't require hub stacks.

A basic string rejection trick

and finally a Not So Trash's Web Web... thing... I'll explain later...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 03, 2008, 10:01:44 AM
How is God a curse word?
I'd like to see the right side up tower.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on January 03, 2008, 10:35:24 AM
Mr Moffett, i like you, you make me chuckle

p.s so its mildly relevant ive got more moves for my sun knot combos now:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 03, 2008, 02:25:22 PM
I just learnt to...Fix my own juggling balls :D

Also some more string control stuff.

(Damn orbiting the diabolo in minicolumns with stick + string like JiBe does in Diabology is hard with my non dominant hand -.-)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on January 03, 2008, 07:29:01 PM
There is no wrong hand for genocides, in every direction from each hand, genocides have been done. ???
ok then when i tryed it with my other hand i nailed it!  now i feel dumber T.T   :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 03, 2008, 07:41:39 PM
How is God a curse word?
I'd like to see the right side up tower.

Don't want to offend anybody for using it ;)

anyways another trick I've learned is... a ridiculously complicated way into a left backwrap
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on January 03, 2008, 08:57:09 PM
I´ve learnt quite a few tricks since my last post here, and especially during the winter holiday (and it´s not over yet) but for the holiday I´m just so excited about finally getting 360 (walk-around) unwrapped inf. suicide on my left (I know it´s a basic trick but it´s actually way harder than the wrapped version). Also gotten the Taiwanese´s combo for going back out solid and right handed unwrapped from a normal wrapped. I have changed my sun so it now looks a lot more like the async people do it (whipping with the left around just one diab as a pivotingpoint) and have started to have success with continous fts. Also slowly started to learn 3D accelration into 3 high more solid finally and some new 3D arm/handstall variations (darksidestuff among others ;D). Probably some more stuff not mentioned too, but this are the tricks I´m most pleased with right now.

Slightly offtopic: I HATE the Eiffeltower. Been trying for ages to learn it but slackwhiptricks are just not my thing. If anyone know of an "Eiffelguide for the absolute dummie", please let me know :P.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomMiller on January 03, 2008, 09:21:23 PM
talk to beni or langerz

or the moff




(beni knows to many eiffel towers)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on January 03, 2008, 09:31:02 PM
Quote
talk to beni or langerz

or the moff




(beni knows to many eiffel towers)

^Hey thanks a million. I will definitely do that.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on January 03, 2008, 10:20:53 PM
360 fans, at last
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 03, 2008, 10:43:37 PM
Slightly offtopic: I HATE the Eiffeltower. Been trying for ages to learn it but slackwhiptricks are just not my thing. If anyone know of an "Eiffelguide for the absolute dummie", please let me know :P.

I have one that all you have to know is how to spin a diabolo ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on January 04, 2008, 12:47:16 AM
2d awesomeness to anti-suicide to s-fan (and when i get better)....
2d awesomeness to anti-suicide to s-fan to left handed mini-g to half turn big sun to 2d double genocide to anti shuffle hyperloop :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 04, 2008, 01:05:59 AM
2d awesomeness to anti-suicide to s-fan (and when i get better)....
2d awesomeness to anti-suicide to s-fan to left handed mini-g to half turn big sun to 2d double genocide to anti shuffle hyperloop :P
Wtf is 2D awesomeness.
Also, I'm not even sure Anti-Suicide to S-Fan is even possible(Since you'd have to interrupt it with a back side anyway.)
And i seriously doubt the second one.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on January 04, 2008, 01:16:33 AM
Wtf is 2D awesomeness.
Also, I'm not even sure Anti-Suicide to S-Fan is even possible(Since you'd have to interrupt it with a back side anyway.)
And i seriously doubt the second one.

I know, kids eh ::)

Since Nick graced me with THREE gripless performer handsticks, I've been so so very close to landing a 2d floaty grind. The entrance is there with an exit but the double grind moment is very hard to hold.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on January 04, 2008, 01:19:09 AM
well then you just have no imagination legault, do you!!
i tihnk nev did antisuicide to sfan many moons ago and then there are so many different ways to do it!
i have a strange anti suicide to Sfan in one of my combos that involves pulling a left slack from the shuffle. you dare tell me that it still can't be done!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on January 04, 2008, 01:45:59 AM
the way i did the sfan to anti suicide was i did a right arm stall then do a back side on the left diab exit the the arm stall so the right diab gets a loop on it then do a anti-suicide vortex thing then sfan ;D
and i think you could exit the sfan so you could do another anti-suicide and then go back into a sfan.

simple ;)

PS i just found the vid with Nev's 2d awesomeness to anti suicide to sfan
heres the link http://youtube.com/watch?v=HUYGjBRU7Rk&feature=related
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 04, 2008, 02:30:17 AM
k, i was talking about a classic, non variated anti-suicide.Also, Thats a double inverse trapeze to backside, not...2D awesomeness.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on January 04, 2008, 02:41:45 AM
okie doke,    but 2d awesomeness if easier to say than double inverse trapeze to backside ;)
and my way of getting into the anti suicide sfan thingy was harder to explane, oh well 

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 04, 2008, 03:05:16 AM
3d vortex sucks, and so do flys, you depend on there awesome speed and low friction to have any chance of landing vortexes, but the low friction=difficult lifts+increibly difficult async. When I can do 3d I can get to a vortex consistantly, without a contnue after, but in order to have any chance of landing that I have to get 3d with bearings to a more consistant point. Right now I can do 3D with bearings at about 10% which makes landing vortexes 10x harder! >:( in, out, in, out ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 04, 2008, 03:08:20 AM
okie doke,    but 2d awesomeness if easier to say than double inverse trapeze to backside ;)
and my way of getting into the anti suicide sfan thingy was harder to explane, oh well 


Well Description is the key, and it doesnt matter which is easier to say, 2D awesomeness doesnt describe anything.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 04, 2008, 03:08:54 AM
k, i was talking about a classic, non variated anti-suicide.Also, Thats a double inverse trapeze to backside, not...2D awesomeness.

I don't like you.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on January 04, 2008, 03:18:57 AM
Well Description is the key, and it doesnt matter which is easier to say, 2D awesomeness doesnt describe anything.
who gives a $h1t
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on January 04, 2008, 03:20:28 AM
k, i was talking about a classic, non variated anti-suicide.Also, Thats a double inverse trapeze to backside, not...2D awesomeness.

...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 04, 2008, 03:44:21 AM
k, i was talking about a classic, non variated anti-suicide.Also, Thats a double inverse trapeze to backside, not...2D awesomeness.

Bad excuse?
Go have a glass of water and please explain.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on January 04, 2008, 04:47:20 AM
Or just leave it alone. It's a done deal guys.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 04, 2008, 05:03:12 AM
Bad excuse?
Go have a glass of water and please explain.

By non variated i mean one grinding with frontwrap, the other on open string.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: barnesy on January 04, 2008, 09:15:12 AM
What Duncan said.   Enough of the bickering.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 04, 2008, 09:22:44 AM
What Duncan said.   Enough of the bickering.

Well said both of you.

Oh that vid made me cringe - where's my hair gone
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on January 04, 2008, 10:19:44 AM
sorry for all the fuss, but i was in a pretty down mood.

and i got the sfan to anti suicide back to sfan, so i am happy now ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on January 04, 2008, 11:13:10 AM
circus's and no hair! i bet you cant sleep now. ha

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 04, 2008, 04:51:06 PM
If anyone know of an "Eiffelguide for the absolute dummie", please let me know :P.

Actually, I was thinking only the other day maybe I should make a little guide on a few easy ones.

talk to beni or langerz
or the moff
(beni knows to many eiffel towers)

Don't forget Nick, the KING of diabolo eiffel towers.

The eiffel tower is a quite an astonishing figure, there are so many ways of doing them...
I just learnt... nothing much. I've been busy :-[.

Beni
("A good diaboloist thinks up 3 eiffel towers before breakfast")


Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Valium on January 04, 2008, 05:30:55 PM
swinging cfans, wohoo I've killed my personal demon, now for the ac ones (shouldnt they be easier for a normal righty anyway :P well not for me)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on January 04, 2008, 06:49:39 PM
I could never figure out the eiffel tower in donald grant's books....
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on January 04, 2008, 11:23:53 PM
first succesful basic m-gan. WOO exit n all ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 05, 2008, 02:05:09 AM
circus's and no hair! i bet you cant sleep now. ha

lz
I Know - shame on me, but that clip was of  only 4 months of diabolo, so I guess I didn't know any better then........progress has been slow since mind

& on the subject of Eiffels,  It has been said that all roads lead to rome....well all slacks lead to paris my freinds ;)
swinging cfans, wohoo I've killed my personal demon, now for the ac ones (shouldnt they be easier for a normal righty anyway :P well not for me)
Whoho for you - I always found swinging cfans harder than acfans - but well done Sir, swinging cfans took me a long while after ac's - keep at it & you'll get there
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on January 05, 2008, 11:02:43 AM
[youtube=425,350]3DjurWrJovs
 ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on January 05, 2008, 11:51:08 AM
Some of those bearing knot hover things that Nev does. There's a nice one if you half weave a fan and then exit a fan :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 05, 2008, 01:14:18 PM
s-fan hyper-loop. haven't got a really clean exit yet though...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 05, 2008, 01:26:44 PM
Some of those bearing knot hover things that Nev does. There's a nice one if you half weave a fan and then exit a fan :D

They also work without bearings - thats how I first learnt them with circi.

There are quite a few fan ones - by half weave I assume you mean letting just 1 diabolo swing to one side? - you can do this on either the left or the right - both will produce a string stall knot (to the right gives a frontwrap to backwrap exit - to the left gives a backwrap to frontwrap).
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 05, 2008, 02:35:22 PM
s-fan hyper-loop. haven't got a really clean exit yet though...
How do you do these?
I've been trying to learn these for forever but i don't even know the procedure im supposed to do.
They also work without bearings - thats how I first learnt them with circi.

There are quite a few fan ones - by half weave I assume you mean letting just 1 diabolo swing to one side? - you can do this on either the left or the right - both will produce a string stall knot (to the right gives a frontwrap to backwrap exit - to the left gives a backwrap to frontwrap).
I've also been trying to learn these, the best i've been able to do is to swing the right one to the left, but i cant really swing back so...
Any motion tips nev?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 05, 2008, 02:42:34 PM
Also, finally got my friend to get some 2d, And i got some 3d last night, got down the throw and wrap start... Now to do more then like 6 OTT.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on January 05, 2008, 03:28:38 PM
Cheers for the info on what swings produce what wraps. The left swing has a nice fritz exit which is good. I think some of the slack entrance to these need some more exploration. Got a 2D gyroflop aswell which is pretty sweet :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 05, 2008, 03:38:45 PM
My 2D left suns actually look like nice suns now :P

Can't find the right rythem/movement of my hands during fans yet though :-\
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 05, 2008, 04:19:54 PM
Inspired by yomn's vid, I decided to try 360 fans, I accidentally grabbed bearing, but got and infinite fan and therefore infinite 360's ???

7560 fan, (21 spins) with solid stop :P could do more but its very exhausting.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on January 05, 2008, 06:03:13 PM
I just learnt a new Armstall Combo! :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Valium on January 05, 2008, 09:09:46 PM
clean cfan 360s
btw is th buskonature video uploaded somewhere? the link in the thread doesnt work anymore
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 05, 2008, 09:13:08 PM
double sprinkler 360 suicide like sean in the Collab vid, not with as much style though, its still really sketchy...

btw is th buskonature video uploaded somewhere? the link in the thread doesnt work anymore

it's on youtube is it not? if not then it's on juggling.tv and i assume a downloadable version will be there.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Valium on January 05, 2008, 09:25:45 PM
who the hell needs that crappy youtube quality
and I cant find it on juggling.tv
someone cares for an upload? :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: dashpops on January 05, 2008, 09:29:36 PM
When you lern a new trick you want to show it and tell others that you have achived someting new. This is a thread where you can tell about your latest achievements, doesnt matter if its the stringclimb or a solid four diabolo shuffle you just lernt, tell us about it! And let others be inspired by what you do!

2day I got the hang of 2d and was very proud of myself
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 05, 2008, 10:11:58 PM
double sprinkler 360 suicide like sean in the Collab vid, not with as much style though, its still really sketchy...

it's on youtube is it not? if not then it's on juggling.tv and i assume a downloadable version will be there.

I Pm'd Busk about that on youtube about 2 weeks ago, it's somewhere on circusplanet.

EDIT: Here it is :): http://www.circuspla.net/mirror/buskonature.avi
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: martin 1692 on January 05, 2008, 10:21:23 PM
- shuffle of 2 seconds of 3d
- fan 360
- vortex suicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 05, 2008, 10:57:09 PM
Three low is getting pretty solid.
And something else which I'll show when its solid.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Valium on January 06, 2008, 12:11:56 AM
thats the link from the topic, and the link doesnt work  :P
still thanks for the effort
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: BVB231 on January 06, 2008, 12:14:26 AM
I learned double sprinklers suicides, got better at 2d high, and almost did my first vertax genocide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 06, 2008, 12:50:21 AM
Inspired by yomn's vid, I decided to try 360 fans, I accidentally grabbed bearing, but got and infinite fan and therefore infinite 360's ???

7560 fan, (21 spins) with solid stop :P could do more but its very exhausting.

With bearings - I've 360'd for about 30mins before I got bored.  Without bearings my best is a mere 37 x 360 (you work it out) but I have to pause in regular fan mode to re-accelerate a while between each one
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 06, 2008, 12:54:46 AM
btw is th buskonature video uploaded somewhere? the link in the thread doesnt work anymore

I've just mirrored it for you
www.diabolomoves.com/temp/buskonature.avi (http://www.diabolomoves.com/temp/buskonature.avi)
One of my all time favorites.

Busk - please let me know if you dont want this video to be available still
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 06, 2008, 12:55:47 AM
With bearings - I've 360'd for about 30mins before I got bored.  Without bearings my best is a mere 37 x 360 (you work it out) but I have to pause in regular fan mode to re-accelerate a while between each one
I have to get a stable fast spin at first, but then I rocket in my 360s. I get a spin in at least every three seconds, but thats with a pause or two  averaged in. I can get it so I continually 360 for 10 seconds for ten spins. But it is very exhausting, ( i'm used to finesse)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 06, 2008, 01:45:33 AM
My math says 13320. ;)
Holidays.. Killing me.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Valium on January 06, 2008, 02:10:30 AM
thanks alot nev  ;D one of my favourites too

and how can you 360 fan for so long without your arms falling off ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 06, 2008, 02:27:47 AM
thanks alot nev  ;D one of my favourites too

and how can you 360 fan for so long without your arms falling off ;)

You're welcome

& I don't 360 anymore - it was just a passing phase
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 06, 2008, 03:32:50 AM
Nev, i want to see a Eternal 360 swinging fan, with some of the sharpes variations thrown in.
That'd be crazy. ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 06, 2008, 11:10:09 AM
thats the link from the topic, and the link doesnt work  :P
still thanks for the effort
My bad, didn't check it since it still worked fine a week ago :-X :-X
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 06, 2008, 07:09:51 PM
working on a sprinkler integral...Crazy hard. Landed it once, but missed the handstick coming around.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 06, 2008, 08:01:06 PM
I just learned Nick's awesome string rejection trick. Thanks Nick :D.
Also a cool eiffel tower and like 6 alright eiffel towers.
Also an instant green triangle + instant weird wrap.
Also some more knot things.
Also some more slack suicides.
Also forgot some other stuff >:(.

Beni
(Too many also's)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 06, 2008, 08:20:20 PM
A bunch of Slack tricks.
Also suddenly became a lot better at sprinklers,
I have vortex the sprinkler down 50% of the time now, and i even was able to do a fan the sprinkler for a few rotations(Not fan hyperloop, much different, one tip, use tons of string otherwise it looks horribly awkward)
Sprinkler double grind stall back into sprinkler or anti-sprinkler.
Sort of sprinkler columns(Working on)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 06, 2008, 08:27:29 PM
Slowcide->Integral Suicide->Infinite Suicides :D

Double Left Sprinkler Suicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 06, 2008, 08:41:04 PM
In case you hadn't noticed legault, AC fan (normal) sprinkler is the same as antishuffling and then doing an AC sun. C fan sprinkler is normal shuffle with a clockwise sun (assuming a right swing entry) and then turning into fan plane. They don't really count.
I don't think sprinkler minicolumns would work, at least not continuously, as the minicolumn motion would tighten the loop.
And fan the sprinkler? Why that's just an antisprinkler in fan plane.
Remember fan tricks don't count unless they are in S fan mount. AC fan tricks are just tweaked vortices, C fan tricks are just tweaked suns. It's only pure if it's S fan ;D.
I just learnt another instant eiffel tower.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 06, 2008, 10:58:26 PM
In case you hadn't noticed legault, AC fan (normal) sprinkler is the same as antishuffling and then doing an AC sun. C fan sprinkler is normal shuffle with a clockwise sun (assuming a right swing entry) and then turning into fan plane. They don't really count.
I don't think sprinkler minicolumns would work, at least not continuously, as the minicolumn motion would tighten the loop.
And fan the sprinkler? Why that's just an antisprinkler in fan plane.
Remember fan tricks don't count unless they are in S fan mount. AC fan tricks are just tweaked vortices, C fan tricks are just tweaked suns. It's only pure if it's S fan ;D.
I just learnt another instant eiffel tower.

Beni
Thanks, that clears a lot up for me.
As for the AC fan sprinkler, I don't really think of it as a sun, since one is being constantly vortexed on a one count, and its a lot different then a sprinkler sun, but you're probably right, I'm not huge on Fan Theory.
Sprinkler minicolums are odd, they dont work very well, but are sort of like relaxed bounces.
Thanks.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on January 07, 2008, 12:07:13 AM
i was always taught that there are infinite fans to do (or atleast equal to the mounts you know). so why does a fan trick have to be an Sfan again?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on January 07, 2008, 12:16:51 AM
quite right garner, jumped in there before nev flew off the handle. damn jiberish

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 07, 2008, 07:33:58 PM
i learnt one of bloodyclowns integrals,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQHajq91Mk0


anyone know if he is around anymore?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on January 07, 2008, 09:40:52 PM
I know he was this summer
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 08, 2008, 12:23:48 AM
Thats a nice trick..

Got some random stuff involving body combos and one diabolo.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 08, 2008, 07:31:08 AM
i learnt one of bloodyclowns integrals,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQHajq91Mk0


anyone know if he is around anymore?

Is that first mini-genocide tomicide thing the same(ish) as what pranay uses in his first trick in d.ca collaboration vid 2008?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 08, 2008, 01:07:57 PM
No, Pranay's doing a form of infinite minigens.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on January 08, 2008, 02:13:09 PM
yeah, Pranay's doing a combo of an integral suicide and a mini genocide!

It's very simple to explain, but hard to do!

You do it like this: integral-mini genocide-integral-mini genocide-do as often as you want
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 08, 2008, 03:46:16 PM
No, Pranay's doing a form of infinite minigens.

Yes I know but do the 2 tricks have the same ''fundamentels''? I could never figure out what was exactly going on with pranays trick.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 08, 2008, 04:19:49 PM
i was always taught that there are infinite fans to do (or atleast equal to the mounts you know). so why does a fan trick have to be an Sfan again?

Cos S fan is the mount where each hand speeds a diabolo and it's symmetrical. Maybe I'm just too poi-minded.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on January 08, 2008, 05:04:11 PM
Yes I know but do the 2 tricks have the same ''fundamentels''? I could never figure out what was exactly going on with pranays trick.
It's exactly the same the trick. Pranay just catches the first stick with is left hand to do a minigen
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 09, 2008, 12:39:01 AM
3 diabolos is a bit better
mini columns is getting better
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 09, 2008, 09:00:21 AM
Decided to have a go at 3D endurance for once. 182 catches on the first try. My arms hurt.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ~james~ on January 09, 2008, 09:12:18 AM
Just learnt to genocide and am getting much better at infinite suicides ( i can now get it around 14 times)  :)
Just wondering, cos these seem like hard tricks to me, have i learnt them fast seeing as ive been diaboloing for 12 days (i think)
James
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 09, 2008, 09:14:46 AM
Genocides and infinite suicide in 12 days? Wow. I think thats great. Nice work.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 09, 2008, 12:26:14 PM
Decided to have a go at 3D endurance for once. 182 catches on the first try. My arms hurt.
Hey Will, I've been starting 3d lately, and I think i have the shuffling concept down, but the problem for me is that when I'm wrapping in the 3rd diabolo, the 2 shuffling get too low together, and when i unwrap they collide.
I've only gotten a few good starts, but I did get one with somewhere between 10 and 15 OTT.
Do you have any tips on keeping them from colliding, or correcting into 3d from that?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mellowscholar on January 09, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Wrap start 2D shuffle. :) Now to learn how to correct...ugh.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomerB on January 09, 2008, 08:27:21 PM
Hey Will, I've been starting 3d lately, and I think i have the shuffling concept down, but the problem for me is that when I'm wrapping in the 3rd diabolo, the 2 shuffling get too low together, and when i unwrap they collide.
I've only gotten a few good starts, but I did get one with somewhere between 10 and 15 OTT.
Do you have any tips on keeping them from colliding, or correcting into 3d from that?

have you tried giving more speed to the first two ?

it'll make them shuffle in a bigger pattern and keep it away from colliding
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 09, 2008, 09:35:50 PM
have you tried giving more speed to the first two ?

it'll make them shuffle in a bigger pattern and keep it away from colliding
Yeah i know, but I have to shuffle a lot for that, and i'd rather not have like 5 min between each try =/
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 09, 2008, 10:05:03 PM
Yeah i know, but I have to shuffle a lot for that, and i'd rather not have like 5 min between each try =/
Continuous wrap acceleration, or wrap-release technique, alot of the time, I have too much speed and have to wait for 20 otts before I can unwrao without hitting the ceiling. Bearing diabolos shuffle small but for a long time ???
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 09, 2008, 11:57:03 PM
So the start is your problem? My suggestion would be to try others than the wrap start also. My preference is a trapeze start. I've heard a few people talking about it taking them such a long time just to get the wrap start down.
I was talking to a guy via MSN (No mentioning names because they might not want me to.) who said he had the wrap start solid but no shuffle after ten months of practise. So think about that.. I decided to go with the trapeze start after seeing many of the Taiwanese kids do it, I had progress in about two weeks. And now about 3 months later I'm getting long runs. Mull that over a bit.


Hope this helps you a bit.

William - Remember, 4326 Taiwanese children cannot be wrong.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 10, 2008, 03:28:48 AM
Ive been horrible with the trapeze start   :'(
I got my wrap start like 30% of the time from the wrap i can go and get from 1 to 5(On occasion, 8)
But i'll try working with trapeze start.

Also got my 2d low pirouette thing down.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on January 10, 2008, 08:53:53 PM
Are you pumping the suffle? because with bearings you have to push as the axles have no momentum, whereas with fixed axle, to an extent, they shuffle themselves. Try moving your left hand up and down with the beat of the shuffle. basically get two in one hand down first.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 10, 2008, 09:03:41 PM
2d around the leg AGAIN! already learnt it once but forgot it
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Valium on January 10, 2008, 09:18:29 PM
some transfers...
followed by roughly 4 month of almost no diaboloing, gott love working the next 4 month
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 10, 2008, 09:31:20 PM
Antisuicides quite solid :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 11, 2008, 08:52:47 AM
Some random 2D thing. Something to put in video at least.
PS: Jake, send me the videos. ASDF
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 12, 2008, 12:15:53 AM
ASDF? lol

Hyperloop AC-Fan entry no just to finish learning swinging fans =b
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomerB on January 12, 2008, 10:35:40 AM
Very solid Anti - Suicide.

2D Around the leg with the leg on the floor - solid.

2D Around the arm - solid.

2D Around both arms - 2 Otts  :P.

2D Right sun.

3D above the leg - around 5 Otts easily.

3D sun - done it couple of times but when i get back the shuffle is not very solid...

Also, got 3D C - Fan ( sun and immediatly another sun ) once.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 12, 2008, 11:00:33 AM
ASDF? lol

Hyperloop AC-Fan entry no just to finish learning swinging fans =b

ASDF = The ultimate rage.


3d "getting there" zz

New 1d vertax trick.

Also some more 1d normal ideas, but meh.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on January 12, 2008, 11:42:30 AM
Japanese j-whip, finaly!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on January 12, 2008, 12:01:17 PM
Some silly 2D starts that involve a lot of suicides and bearing stalls :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on January 12, 2008, 11:30:23 PM
double sprinkler with the suicide exits!! woo ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 13, 2008, 01:20:22 AM
ASDF = The ultimate rage.


3d "getting there" zz

New 1d vertax trick.
'
ASDF. :)
Yay for Jakes getting there 3 low. Tassie is where its at ;)
That vertax trick is so damn good. VIDYOOH PLIZ.

Also got my first transition from three low into three high.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on January 13, 2008, 12:13:11 PM
Some silly 2D starts that involve a lot of suicides and bearing stalls :)
never gets boring, bearing is cheating though

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on January 13, 2008, 12:21:30 PM
I don't care anymore. It doesn't feel right without having the whizz of the bearing in my ear :P

Back on topic: so very close to a 2D gyroflop, where both diabolos flop.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on January 13, 2008, 12:29:12 PM
(rev kit only) gyrobeericide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mellowscholar on January 13, 2008, 01:16:36 PM
(rev kit only) gyrobeericide

That sounds amusing. Care to enlighten us?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on January 13, 2008, 01:18:07 PM
for those that haven't seen it. hold a rev kit in vertax and balance a pint on top of it...let it spin.
if you do it wrong then you'll get wet
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 13, 2008, 02:01:25 PM
More work on 3d, found out my start in general is fine, just my 3d hover doesnt help the 2 diabolo's shuffling below enough, so i have to unwrap before getting enough speed on the third to really shuffle Without tangles.
When my start works i get 5-10 shuffles.

Also, open string suicide into sprinkler.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 13, 2008, 03:01:02 PM
for those that haven't seen it. hold a rev kit in vertax and balance a pint on top of it...let it spin.
if you do it wrong then you'll get wet

I like your style sir
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on January 13, 2008, 04:25:17 PM
stick switch duicide to infinite slap/kick back stick switch minigen!

now thats a mouthful
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 13, 2008, 04:58:54 PM
never gets boring, bearing is cheating though

lz

I don't care anymore. It doesn't feel right without having the whizz of the bearing in my ear :P

Back on topic: so very close to a 2D gyroflop, where both diabolos flop.

[off topic]I think it was a joke, and while where o/t I made a wide axle bearing spinabolo[/off topic]

-Qualified 3d yesterday, once...
-gt's continuous mini-gens from short and long
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 13, 2008, 07:12:30 PM
feed the sun 2-3 :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 13, 2008, 07:19:46 PM
What exactly is qualifying, flashing, etc?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 13, 2008, 07:49:16 PM
What exactly is qualifying, flashing, etc?
3D suicide!

okay. Flash=1 throw and catch of each object. (5 ball flash= five balls all thrown and all caught.) rule: flash=#of objects
         Qualify= 2 throws and catches of each object. (4 diabolo qualify=8 catches) rule: qualify=#of objects x 2
         double qualify= obvious and so on.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 13, 2008, 08:21:35 PM
ok, awesome.
I got a triple qualify earlier =P(3D)
starting to really feel the shuffle and its getting me a clean, more sync style.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 13, 2008, 10:19:55 PM
4242 nuff said
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 13, 2008, 11:26:10 PM
swing fans finally
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomerB on January 15, 2008, 02:21:51 PM
3D wrap acceleration  :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mo3 on January 15, 2008, 03:11:03 PM
wow tomer you're so fast o: i just made a little progress with my 3d low shuffle..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TheDutchMan on January 15, 2008, 04:48:15 PM
Just did my first 2d sprinkler with a suicide exit(haven't done a normal exit yet! Suicide seemed easier than having to reach around two high speed diabolos circling each other...).
I think i should start working on my shuffle though, as I haven't really learnt how to correct yet!
but still..SPRINKLER!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 15, 2008, 06:23:41 PM
Correcting will come in good time, learn tricks.
I just entered the seedy world of tech suicides.

Beni
(And I got another eiffel tower... doh ::))
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 16, 2008, 04:38:26 AM
Anti-Shuffle Acceleration :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 16, 2008, 01:40:54 PM
Solve the bedlam cube  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on January 16, 2008, 04:11:47 PM
I just did a nice long magic knot run :P I'm so happy, its taken me ages to get these,and i am now happy that i know a few diffferent releases!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 16, 2008, 06:31:21 PM
Misc string control like changing the shuffle direction with 2d :)

(keep the smilies in each post going ;))
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 16, 2008, 10:27:40 PM
 :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 16, 2008, 10:35:50 PM
I just learnt another tech suicide that looks suspiciously like the first one...


...oh yeah :-* (rarely used smiley 8))
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 16, 2008, 10:54:43 PM
Some slack idea I had for yoyo (Still need to order my new hitman) That I want to try,

Trying with diabolo ofc.


Also learnt how to ruin a bunch of kids days, No smiley for you.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on January 17, 2008, 06:31:37 PM
sprinkler with the normal exit!  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on January 18, 2008, 05:29:15 AM
feed the suicide 2-3
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 18, 2008, 06:49:13 AM
ASDF passing with Jake.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 18, 2008, 08:57:42 PM
2d eiffel tower , thanks beni  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 19, 2008, 12:49:28 AM
2d eiffel tower , thanks beni  ;)

Thanks Beni? Why didnt you ask me then LOL?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 19, 2008, 01:00:31 AM
Thanks Beni? Why didnt you ask me then LOL?

lol wut? did you not see like all 50 2d eiffel towers by nev in the 07 collab?

My minicolumns are solid!
feed the sun

[edit] fixed the not making sense part [/edit]
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 19, 2008, 01:10:59 AM
lol wut? did you not see like all 50 in the 07 collab?

OK that made no sense at all
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 19, 2008, 01:21:56 AM
ok fixed it

unfortunately I can't think of anything to keep this on topic =O
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 19, 2008, 08:55:26 AM
ok fixed it

unfortunately I can't think of anything to keep this on topic =O

then post nothing...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 19, 2008, 09:57:36 AM
3D Sun to armstall.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 19, 2008, 10:02:47 AM
Nev, he didn't specifically ask me, it just happened to come up in an msn conversation, so I explained one that was adapted from (may even be the same trick) the second one in your combo in the collab.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: spinnin pig on January 19, 2008, 07:41:45 PM
genocide
woot woot
woot woot  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D im so happy
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 20, 2008, 03:12:41 PM
I got 30 OTT yesterday!  ;D And then I woke up and realized it was a dream  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 20, 2008, 03:20:18 PM
LOL Legault.
I just learnt a whole heap of lacerations.... coooool.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 20, 2008, 08:46:50 PM
C-fan :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 20, 2008, 09:20:11 PM
After trying flys FOR THE FIRST TIME (thanks Tom :)) I learnt...
UFO grinds
Finger pinch grind

...that's about it.

BUT IT'S ENOUGH.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: bugboy on January 20, 2008, 09:31:48 PM
Yesterday I got the hang of my first UFO grinds.  SWEET!

-Anders
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 21, 2008, 12:26:24 AM
After trying flys FOR THE FIRST TIME (thanks Tom :)) I learnt...
UFO grinds
Finger pinch grind

Ugh.. That makes me want my flys even more.. Today, tomorrow or the day after.. Impatient.

Uhm.. On topic.. Forgot. Ohh. Vertax around the legs - Sharpe style!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on January 21, 2008, 02:24:04 AM
i just did a c fan from a left sun so perfectly (by accident) and it made a wooshing sound like a real fan ;D
probably never be able to do it again lol
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on January 21, 2008, 02:44:22 AM
quadruple sun and quinctuple? sun, 42*42*42*42*42*, 2 ott around the arm w/ 3...

Josh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on January 21, 2008, 04:12:47 PM
2d Anti-suicides without grind are very solid now ;D

I really like them because they fit perfectly in vortex combo's
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Nevercrashed on January 21, 2008, 04:29:03 PM
j whip

and a web
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 21, 2008, 04:44:18 PM
Just remember getting a one handed whip to eiffel tower yesterday. Don't quite know how I did it though...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomMiller on January 21, 2008, 05:14:36 PM
Just remember getting a one handed whip to eiffel tower yesterday. Don't quite know how I did it though...
FLUUUKKKEEEEEE!!!!!!!
, i know, i was there
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 21, 2008, 07:51:36 PM
quadruple sun and quinctuple? sun, 42*42*42*42*42*, 2 ott around the arm w/ 3...

Josh
Wow, video? I think its quintuple.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 22, 2008, 08:07:12 AM
Flys came today, Sundia didn't ship my fixed axles...So mainly practicing bearings.

Nice random 2d sprinkler fingergrind thing..
Trashs web
A couple random slacks
Fingergrinds

Some nice patterns with will passing, ETC.

It's fun learning all these things I never really "bothered" with. (Fingergrinds, Trashs web etc)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 22, 2008, 10:47:46 AM
We rule of course. The passing is the best. Forgot to work on ASDF passing!  :o
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 22, 2008, 01:04:45 PM
2d and 3d rocket start.
Still can't get any 3d with finesses(Apart from a qualify or 2)
The problem is that with the wrap start, half the time the diabolo im unwrapping hits the one on the left side, And 45% of the time when that doesnt happen they go of course...giving me 5% to shuffle, and either my shuffle doesnt work, or they go off target.
Tips for 3d wrap start and shuffling?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 22, 2008, 01:35:00 PM
Some cool wrap stalls.
Some random finger grind stuff

New slack - Normal underslack - trashsweb thing in one slack.  :donno:

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: traPACK on January 22, 2008, 03:51:32 PM
3ball cascade and 2d rocket start
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 22, 2008, 06:21:49 PM
Jake, That slack isn't new. I was doing it a year ago at least. Plus I think nev did it before both of us, although I only discovered that the other day. Sniff.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on January 22, 2008, 09:13:28 PM
2d suns every other time around! woo! ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 22, 2008, 10:54:57 PM
I've been developing two new concepts; reforming a mount and hybrid* slacks.

Beni :-X

*Sounds silly, but that's exactly what they are.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 22, 2008, 11:03:16 PM
2D Vertax in one hand - You'll see.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 22, 2008, 11:16:17 PM
2D Vertax in one hand - You'll see.
cOME ON, iTS been almost half a year.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 22, 2008, 11:23:24 PM
And its been good fun.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 22, 2008, 11:54:12 PM
Will, a Video...V-I-D-E-O...movie...moving picture...any of the following, would be a good thing mister vertax Fan.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 23, 2008, 12:13:52 AM
It's snowing out.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on January 23, 2008, 12:17:29 AM
Lay of him Al, coming from a 3rd world country, William is unlikely to have access to expensive equipment. I know for a fact that he  only gets to post here on an old 486 PC using windows 95 in the local mission station
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 23, 2008, 12:19:40 AM
And the kangaroos are attacking again. They're evolving - snowboots. Dropbears have the advantage - hangliders obviously.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 23, 2008, 12:23:38 AM
And the kangaroos are attacking again. They're evolving - snowboots. Dropbears have the advantage - hangliders obviously.
:D
(http://sidesplitters.catastrophe.net/arch/2005/boxing-kangaroo.jpg)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 23, 2008, 12:46:36 AM
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m241/Willba5/NOWAI.jpg)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 23, 2008, 01:31:56 AM
Rich.
I didn't even think it snowed that much in australia.
I wouldn't really refer to australia as a 3rd world country though..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt D on January 23, 2008, 01:34:38 AM
it snows plenty in australia...just isn't it summer there right now???

BTW, I just got 12 ott of 3d.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 23, 2008, 01:49:15 AM
Yeah we're packed in. Blame Global Warming.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 23, 2008, 01:59:54 AM
Jake, That slack isn't new. I was doing it a year ago at least. Plus I think nev did it before both of us, although I only discovered that the other day. Sniff.

Beni

I ment a new slack for me :P  I don't watch to many videos so don't ussually know what's "Already done" And it doesn't matter to much to me :P I just like creating new ideas


Also working on some one hand slacks today, 3 diabolos with bearing feels a bit strange, Guess just need to practice.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 23, 2008, 02:21:26 AM
3 diabolos with bearing feels a bit strange, Guess just need to practice.
Async is hard. No friction=difficult lift=difficult async.
Yeah we're packed in. Blame Global Warming.
That Al Gore, he's always right, but no one knows that if we reduce our carbon emmissions and the glaciers stop melting, the same ones that would have been destroyed will begin to attack!
http://www.gonomad.com/roundworldphoto/uploaded_images/ilulissat-ice-ford-749223.jpg......apparently if you do an image search concerning glaciers attacking, this is what comes up...not very dramatic...ah well....pretend this is where florida USED to be.

Darn..clicked on the link it and it doesn't work....just picture a lot of ice....wow, the diabolo.ca 404 page is better than that one ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on January 23, 2008, 02:40:34 AM
Rich.
I didn't even think it snowed that much in australia.
I wouldn't really refer to australia as a 3rd world country though..
Ok 'developing nation' if we have to get all PC
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on January 23, 2008, 02:45:24 AM
diabolobro check this out - http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/  There's a summary at the bottom if you don't bother reading it too in depth cause it's pretty deep.

3 sun to double armstall cleaner, 4 ott around the arm, got this one run of mini columns that actually was the correct entrance but I have no idea how I did it.

Josh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 23, 2008, 11:50:42 AM
diabolobro check this out - http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/  There's a summary at the bottom if you don't bother reading it too in depth cause it's pretty deep.
I've been through it, I know,...btw...heres a quote from this link,
"humans aren't affecting the planet or its temperature.

Whoa! We didn't say that at all.

This discussion is on greenhouse effect and possible enhanced greenhouse"
and if 99/100 studies say we are increasing our CO2 at the same time as one of the biggest temperature icreases, then how long do we have to wait around for people to make the link, there is no proven link between smoking and cancer, but how many times do you have to roll heads before you realise its a double sided coin. ::)

Offtopic, whatev.

1800 fan a few times, and so close to 2160.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on January 23, 2008, 11:52:53 AM
if you were a chemist you might see things alittle different diabolobro
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on January 23, 2008, 05:02:30 PM
Seriously I spent about 3 weeks researching and doing a lot of maths (stats *shudders*) and you'd be surprised how little of the 'bad stuff' humans kick out into the atmosphere actually has any effect on the global warming situation. In fact there's proof that the earth goes through various heat and climate changes every couple of thousand years. I'm not saying we aren't contributing to the current changes to the earth - that'd be ludacris, but it really isn't as much our fault as it's made out to be.

Back on Topic: I shoved the fixed axels on my flys for the first time and managed a 42. Really sketchy though.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 23, 2008, 05:18:48 PM
Remember, a lot of people are very rich but their businesses rely on carbon emissions — a few scientists may be open to bending the truth for a little dough. Conspiracy OMG :o.
And I think it's been proved now that if you keep on smoking you will get cancer unless you die first.
BTW Jake that slackwhip is a good example of 5th base or tweakage (same thing, just I believe base theory should be 'stepped' both ways).
I just got a nice long run with 4b tennis.

Beni
PAGE 200!! Congrats Mr Pink.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on January 23, 2008, 07:12:21 PM
don't be so cynical beni, or if your going to be cynical then you can go the other way and say that all the global warming stuff is well used ploy for more money
"we now you concentrate to take more lorries off the road and reduce emissions" so you buy their stuff"
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomMiller on January 23, 2008, 07:35:22 PM
Anri-suicide with and without a grind






YAY!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomerB on January 23, 2008, 08:44:54 PM
Clean continous Anti - Suicide.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 23, 2008, 09:20:10 PM
Garner, that argument is one of the biggest ones of the pro-carbon/death-to-the-planet emissions people. They say that a lot of people make a lot of money out of the whole anti global warming thing, but the point is a lot more people get rich out of emission-producing industry (oil, cars etc).

I just learnt... nothing? >:(

Beni
(Public transport and bikes... PUBLIC TRANSPORT AND BIKES!)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: robbie322 on January 23, 2008, 09:27:13 PM

I just got a nice long run with 4b tennis.

Beni
PAGE 200!! Congrats Mr Pink.

how does that one work? video? i can 4b tennis but its not exactly tennis as its not symmetrical i dont think


I just learnt trash's web. YAY
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 23, 2008, 09:58:20 PM
Robbie, it may not feel like tennis because of the way you throw — it feels kinda strange because you throw 2 balls consecutively from one hand at intervals (or that's how it seems). I know the pattern I do *should* count as tennis.
One of the main reasons I learnt 4 balls was so that I could juggle 3 with one over the top, so tennis was like my goal in juggling. Now I gotta get my 5b better >:(.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: barnesy on January 23, 2008, 10:14:32 PM
My favourite tennisy pattern with 4 is 53444.  The 5 is always the same object, so for me, it feels like a progression on from 3 ball tennis, even though it's a fair bit more complicated.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 23, 2008, 10:33:15 PM
360 swinging fan and a 4 beat swinging fan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 24, 2008, 12:25:09 AM
BTW Jake that slackwhip is a good example of 5th base or tweakage (same thing, just I believe base theory should be 'stepped' both ways).

If I recall correctly, Jake couldn't care less for 3rdB, 4thB etc.  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 24, 2008, 12:55:01 AM
Double underslack - trashs web.

Some sprinkler variations - Nothing special, but will see if something nice comes out of them :P


-Beni   No idea what 3rd base or 4th etc etc is, I've had a few people try and explain it to me...And I still don't understand it, Or the point of it.  so :donno:

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 24, 2008, 01:34:20 AM
Er... anti-sprinklers
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 24, 2008, 02:23:52 AM
Over head fan, standing and laying on my back.
My infinite fan's coming along, and im working on doing a backwards somersault while fanning.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 24, 2008, 08:24:57 AM
Got a memory stick for my Video Camera. Might film something and post it if I can be bothered.

On topic, 3D suns are getting close. VERY close.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 24, 2008, 04:45:49 PM
4 beat swinging fan? I wondered when someone would get that. Though probably nev got it years ago ::).

Best explanation of 3rd base is Will's 3rd base sandwich. A 5th base sandwich would have filling spread on the top as well as the middle, 6th (although this is pointless as most anything tweaked can be classed as 5th) would be a triple decker.

Beni
(<3 triple decker sandwiches :))
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 24, 2008, 04:50:01 PM
Lol - I don't even know what a 4 beat swinging fan is
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 24, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
actually i lied i can only do it on the left hand side  :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on January 24, 2008, 04:56:26 PM
@Nev That doesn't mean you can't do it! ;)

I've just learnt a funky pirouetty genocidey combo thingy.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 24, 2008, 06:48:02 PM
"Beat" theory:
Used in poi a lot to describe weaves (2,3,4,5,6?,7 beats I know of, may be more). A 3 beat weave uses the same hand pattern as mills mess.
A normal swinging fan is 3 beat, and alternate left/right suns (in fan plane) are 2 beat*. A 4 beat swing would involve letting a swing go on for one extra revolution of one diabolo on both sides. I don't know whether this works in practice.
Ben may have done a 5 beat swing, where there would be an extra revolution of both diabolos on each side. In theory this is easier.

All of this would be easier (at least on the mind) with an S fan rather than a normal fan.

I just learnt an instant semi eiffel (side on one).

Beni

* 4 beat and maybe even 6 beat suns should be very possible.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 24, 2008, 07:09:10 PM
now i think about it it would be 5 beat not 4  :)

still working on the other side...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: robbie322 on January 24, 2008, 07:13:09 PM
My favourite tennisy pattern with 4 is 53444.  The 5 is always the same object, so for me, it feels like a progression on from 3 ball tennis, even though it's a fair bit more complicated.

dont know siteswap but im sure its sexy. have all you jugglers seen falcores video? its insane, he does a three ball cascade with 4 balls. you need to see it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riqkA3HKHB8 i need to learn 5 ball tennis.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 24, 2008, 09:53:24 PM
That video was beautiful.
I don't understand what you mean by 3b cascade with 4 balls... if you mean that 2 are treated as 1 (i.e. thrown and caught in multiplex) then that's not really too hard. It's possible with 6 balls.

Back to diabolo.... this has been a great evening for slackwhips. I got some really cool flukes and a few that I can actually repeat.

Beni

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 24, 2008, 10:21:16 PM
Not flukes if you can repeat them  ;D

And  :o That was the most amazing thing i've ever seen.
Looked like he had 3 hands.

We have a juggler like that at our juggling club, but this guy makes him seem like almost a joke.
I'll film him sometime if i ever get hold of a camera.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 24, 2008, 11:49:56 PM
My first real run of 3d!
About 15 ott of controlled pushing around instead of crazy pushing and running off momentum.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: robbie322 on January 25, 2008, 01:03:18 AM
Not flukes if you can repeat them  ;D

And  :o That was the most amazing thing i've ever seen.
Looked like he had 3 hands.

We have a juggler like that at our juggling club, but this guy makes him seem like almost a joke.
I'll film him sometime if i ever get hold of a camera.

he must have 3 hands! probably one of the best, most creative  3 and 4b jugglers ever, did you see the 3 ball cascade with 4.

i just learnt tomicide to miniG.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 25, 2008, 05:56:29 AM
Best explanation of 3rd base is Will's 3rd base sandwich.

Yes! I knew it had relevance to something!

3D suns. I can do them, but I can't.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 25, 2008, 06:01:00 AM
4 beat swinging fan? I wondered when someone would get that. Though probably nev got it years ago ::).

Best explanation of 3rd base is Will's 3rd base sandwich. A 5th base sandwich would have filling spread on the top as well as the middle, 6th (although this is pointless as most anything tweaked can be classed as 5th) would be a triple decker.

Beni
(<3 triple decker sandwiches :))


Thanks for the confirmation that 3rdbase is a bunch of crap. :P

Learnt:
Some sprinkler knots
3d getting there -.-
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on January 25, 2008, 01:02:48 PM
3rd base sandwich =1    slice   bread
                             3 slices bacon
                             Dijon Mustard
                             1 slice lettuce
                            2 slices roast beef
                              Dijon Mustard
                            And one Slice William

 :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on January 25, 2008, 01:32:15 PM
Quote
Thanks for the confirmation that 3rdbase is a bunch of crap. :P
only for the narrow minded. it took me a while to fully grasp it (cheers sean_) but in my eyes its the most inspiratonal theory ever for everything especially diab, i think i've improved my 1d tenfold thanks to 3rd base. ITS F***ING GENIOUS

lz

wants "3rd base crew" status
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 25, 2008, 01:39:13 PM
Perhaps you can help me understand it better then?

:donno:
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 25, 2008, 05:08:18 PM
WHy don't you go round to Will's house and have him talk at you for an hour aided with the components of a sandwich, handsticks and a few diabs, until you get it?

Not flukes if you can repeat them  ;D
Yeah I meant they were solid, like.
And you can repeat a fluke if you don't understand how it works.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on January 25, 2008, 05:23:04 PM
only for the narrow minded. it took me a while to fully grasp it (cheers sean_) but in my eyes its the most inspiratonal theory ever for everything especially diab, i think i've improved my 1d tenfold thanks to 3rd base. ITS F***ING GENIOUS

lz

wants "3rd base crew" status
Thought you already had it. I've said it before that when we were first discussing 3rd base that I thought you would be one person who could make a lot of use of the theory.

P.s. Beni, thought you had grasped the fact that that 5th base and up arent in the scheme. try rereading the 3rd base thread (especially my megapost). Well of base on Wills sandwich

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 25, 2008, 05:26:42 PM
I still don't understand how you call it 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, tweakage. If you dismiss everything that side of the spectrum as tweakage, why not call 1st, 2nd and 3rd anti tweakage instead of 'stepping' it?

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomerB on January 25, 2008, 06:15:57 PM
Decided to try 3D indurance. got 185 otts on my first try  :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on January 25, 2008, 07:21:07 PM
Haha woot!! I got Mini-G's, did a load at school today, so i got all weekend to polish them and make a routine.Next I'm gunna work on getting 2d and vertax sorted
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Niclas on January 25, 2008, 08:33:03 PM
My feed the sun with 2d is clean!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on January 25, 2008, 09:54:24 PM
double 360 swinging fan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on January 26, 2008, 01:02:55 AM
WHy don't you go round to Will's house and have him talk at you for an hour aided with the components of a sandwich, handsticks and a few diabs, until you get it?
Yeah I meant they were solid, like.
And you can repeat a fluke if you don't understand how it works.

Beni


He's tried, All I understand from it is..Something like;  Going to do a trick then doing something else or something.     I have no idea.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on January 26, 2008, 01:15:34 AM
A normal swinging fan is 3 beat, and alternate left/right suns (in fan plane) are 2 beat*. A 4 beat swing would involve letting a swing go on for one extra revolution of one diabolo on both sides. I don't know whether this works in practice.
Ben may have done a 5 beat swing, where there would be an extra revolution of both diabolos on each side. In theory this is easier.

OK so now that I understand what you are talking about - a 4 beat swing would not work (I think) simply because a 2 beat (why is there an extra beat as its only 1 diabolo swinging?) i.e. one diabolo only swing gives a twist centrally in the string when you try to undue it on the other side, leaving the original (untwisted) diabolo in a twist - if that makes sense - so a 4 beat would give the same twist.

I won't say impossible (I never would ;)), but improbable I think

..........but thank you for getting me to THINK about diabolo again - its been a while now
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 26, 2008, 05:29:51 AM
3D double armstall, around the leg and suns. Also got close to a suicide. Not bad for a days work.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 26, 2008, 12:19:40 PM
why is there an extra beat as its only 1 diabolo swinging?

For a swinging fan it is 3 beats, not 2. It is 3 beats because you swing alternate diabolos across the fan. E.G. if you have a yellow and a green diabolo in a fan and you swing to right with the green diabolo, when you undo the swing on the left you swing the yellow one. Beats aren't counted by how many times the thing is swung — they are literally beats.
4 beat fan may take 4 swings to cancel out the twists, as I think you twist each diabolo one way and then the other way instead of alternate twist/untwist. I'm pretty sure it's possible.
4 beat suns should be far easier.

I just filmed some stuff but it won't upload on the computer and half got deleted by accident :(. Maybe next week...

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Niclas on January 26, 2008, 02:43:16 PM
I just got seven feed the sun in a row.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 26, 2008, 09:27:52 PM
OK so now that I understand what you are talking about - a 4 beat swing would not work (I think) simply because a 2 beat (why is there an extra beat as its only 1 diabolo swinging?) i.e. one diabolo only swing gives a twist centrally in the string when you try to undue it on the other side, leaving the original (untwisted) diabolo in a twist - if that makes sense - so a 4 beat would give the same twist.

I won't say impossible (I never would ;)), but improbable I think
I tried it a few times, and got back to  fan position once but, was so surprised that I couldn't finish the fan, and one fell.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on January 26, 2008, 09:56:55 PM
That's impressive a successful 4 swings of a 4 beat fan would be revolutionary.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 27, 2008, 12:00:00 AM
Unfeed the sun 3-2
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 27, 2008, 12:34:19 AM
horizontal gyroscopic flop 8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on January 27, 2008, 02:54:42 AM
42*42* :D....Not that hard surprisingly, my ceiling gets in the way though


Also getting close to double suns. I can consistantly do the suns, and occansionally do triples, but the speed from the suns makes the recovery difficult, ah well, something to work on.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 27, 2008, 04:00:53 AM
qualified (6OTT)after a suicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Xev on January 27, 2008, 10:11:03 PM
I learned to do chinese whips and orbit thrusts! Also, I just got my first diabolo injury. I was repeatedly switching from chinese whips to sun power thrusts, which probably wasn't such a good idea. It wrapped up and hit right where my nose meets my forehead. :'(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: xiaman on January 28, 2008, 02:21:04 AM
Fan! :D

I know that may not seem much, but to me it is ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on January 28, 2008, 04:19:57 AM
Fan! :D

I know that may not seem much, but to me it is ::)

It's quite an accomplishment!

I got two qualifying runs at 3d so far tonight, *NOTE* I only work on 3d for a bit (10 to 30mins MAX) on an irregular nightly schedule
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on January 28, 2008, 08:06:14 PM
anti-big sun and sprinkler reverse suicide exits
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on January 28, 2008, 10:24:30 PM
sprinkler reverse suicide exits

Damn. Thought I was the only one that thought about that. Guess I've going to have to get my doubles clean
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on January 29, 2008, 02:12:14 AM
2 high to sprinkler, I dont know why (or if) I haven't tried this before.

Something big and impressive together with something awkward to get into when you first try it. Always a good combination. The Yin and Yang of diabolo right there.

Oh, a bit of under the net ping pong on the string control side. (Long way to go before that feels/looks right though)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on February 01, 2008, 05:10:34 AM
Alot more sprinkler stuff, Also working on 2d star.

Some 2d meteor/staff random crap.


3d is getting there, bearings feel funny, waiting on fixed axles + string =[
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: redchina on February 01, 2008, 02:53:31 PM
Infinite Suicide 360!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on February 01, 2008, 03:11:08 PM
Damn. Thought I was the only one that thought about that. Guess I've going to have to get my doubles clean
Tahia does one in Diab'N'Roll
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: eminem2012 on February 01, 2008, 06:38:07 PM
Finger grind on circus diabolo so happy cant wait to get my finnesse
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 01, 2008, 06:40:52 PM
Over arm orbits ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Saw on February 01, 2008, 07:59:56 PM
Monorail Yea :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on February 01, 2008, 09:18:49 PM
Tahia does one in Diab'N'Roll

his is different from the one i do, at least i think so. i just do a right backside sprinkler and throw the left stick instead of right, its a nice feeling trick. will, how solid are your doubles?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 02, 2008, 12:02:28 AM
Doubles? Not really all that great. 1 every 4 or 5 goes.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on February 02, 2008, 12:02:34 AM
his is different from the one i do, at least i think so. i just do a right backside sprinkler and throw the left stick instead of right, its a nice feeling trick. will, how solid are your doubles?

Is that the same as Zack's votw from way back in 2005? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRK3xL97lbQ
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 02, 2008, 12:19:25 AM
Is that the same as Zack's votw from way back in 2005?
It sounds to me as though he does a sprinkler, then throws the left stick, so it would be nearly the same as this but there would be  sprinkler instead of a normal suicide.

BTW, I learned continuous wrap acceleration, (2)...in 3d, thanks Fini, for the inspiration.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Aaron Z on February 02, 2008, 02:02:26 PM
Wooh! Tomicides today!!!
Catches aren't too shabby, though  :(

They're my first advanced trick, thanks to William for the advice and help!
 ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 02, 2008, 03:34:35 PM
424242....and almost 522. also 51 for a pretty long run.

EDIT: like 20 otts around the leg, or something like that, Got down the clean finish as well.

EDIT: Also got fts better, and am getting close to tahia's box.

EDIT: BOX! Cha-Ching
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 02, 2008, 09:43:11 PM
4 catches of 2 high vertax

also 4 passes of 2d vertax per person.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: tommi on February 02, 2008, 09:53:52 PM
4 catches of 2 high vertax

Interesting.. I wonder what that looks like. By the way, those siteswaps you mentioned above, high or low?


Umm, today I learnt to like wooden sticks and wide axles again (for some stuff). And I also learnt to break around the body stuff into really small parts in my head in a very useful way. Just as an example it led me to figure out least at 25 ways of getting in to armstall behind the back only using wraps and suns. Haven't tried all of those though..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on February 02, 2008, 09:58:39 PM
it led me to figure out least at 25 ways of getting in to armstall behind the back only using wraps and suns. Haven't tried all of those though..
good man!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 02, 2008, 10:04:30 PM
Interesting.. I wonder what that looks like. By the way, those siteswaps you mentioned above, high or low?

Looks pretty good, but it's extremely difficult to do and keep the diabolos verticle, not to mention spinning fast. I got it on my first try, but I tdidn't get to try much after, I'll give it another go in a week or so. I could definitely pull if Ethan was't the only other person around who could do vertax, Have to teach someone so we can do it, Have to find another entrance.

And all were low.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 03, 2008, 12:13:06 AM
4 catches of 2 high vertax

Go back to 1d. Waste of time.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 03, 2008, 12:30:20 AM
Go back to 1d. Waste of time.
I don't know will, I think there could be some more potential inthis style, It has a max, I don't think anything above 4d is possible but until then, I'd like to see where this could go., siteswaps are out of the question unless there are no 1's, but I think a 330 is possible, and probably a 420, but yoou need some High throws, and a sustained pattern, which is the hard part, As the diabolos aren't gaining spin.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on February 03, 2008, 12:35:57 AM
sounds sweet, how's that work?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 03, 2008, 12:41:27 AM
You'll see soon, I'm thinking about a possible submission ;) In a week or two I'll give it another go, and hopefully get some good stuff on video. Sit tight until then.

EDIT: So close to a 3d sprinkler, so close. :'(

Also got a vertax trampoline pass earlier today, and btb passing is hard...and painful.

EDIT: 3d sprinkler suicide out, with a ton of otts after and a handstick switch.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on February 03, 2008, 10:35:43 AM
vertax 2 high? it sounds pointless, to throw a vertax diabolo high then you need to drop it down and throw it up which results in the diabolo tilting. unless you're doing it in a UFO grind?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: tommi on February 03, 2008, 11:31:13 AM
unless you're doing it in a UFO grind?

Genocides can be thrown pretty high without tilting too  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on February 03, 2008, 11:33:59 AM
yeah i thought of ben langholz when typing that but i thought that two high with genocides would be very very very hard
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 03, 2008, 12:54:18 PM
I think this is where short string comes in handy.

I just learnt a doubled over coffee grinder (lol) and a c fan :-[.
Also got a back cup back cup front cup C whip, 3rdB slacks and misc slacks.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on February 03, 2008, 01:13:14 PM
^shut up and make this vid then ::)

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jesse on February 03, 2008, 01:20:53 PM
Genocides can be thrown pretty high without tilting too  ;)

How do you know!?  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 03, 2008, 01:27:25 PM
Wait 'till I get me some flys and some time...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 03, 2008, 05:10:12 PM
You'll all, see soon, I've got A little footage but not much, so I'll see what I can do, And by the way, beni, a short string, I think would make this much harder, I use my regular length, the same for 3d.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on February 03, 2008, 05:12:36 PM
3d low throw start, not many shuffles after though.  :(

how does the throw start compare to the wrap start? i can do both but i am wondering whether the downward force of the thrown diabolo will make shuffling easier or whether it makes no difference?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 03, 2008, 05:51:24 PM
I think its harder... and that the circular, and downward force of the wrap start help.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on February 03, 2008, 07:53:36 PM
vertax stoppver but i need to work on getting it 100% vertiacal
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 03, 2008, 10:10:24 PM
3d c-fan. I got four once, but couldn't finish. :'(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 04, 2008, 04:54:14 AM
A gnerly loop diabolo whip catch in the style of a miniG.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 04, 2008, 10:58:38 PM
2d fts 1-2-1-2 YEAH!! (Shut up, it means a lot to me ::))
Also 2d fts 1-2 from shuffle for the first time lol.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on February 05, 2008, 11:27:28 PM
How to breakdown a trick, and manipulate it with slight hand motions to get what I want.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on February 06, 2008, 08:10:06 AM
Some random stick + string manip without the diab.kek

Todays practice was strange.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on February 06, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
Some random stick + string manip without the diab.kek

Todays practice was strange.

This.

I figured out a sweet cradle entrance without the diab some may have seen at Bristol, it's really really hard with the diab though.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on February 06, 2008, 11:12:47 AM
This.

I figured out a sweet cradle entrance without the diab some may have seen at Bristol, it's really really hard with the diab though.

Have a video, Or even a picture of the trick for me to learn? :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on February 06, 2008, 01:18:08 PM
Have a video, Or even a picture of the trick for me to learn? :D

That will take some time, and the latter would take effort ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on February 06, 2008, 01:57:03 PM
That will take some time, and the latter would take effort ;)

Allright, guess I'll just work on my own then ;P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 06, 2008, 09:54:41 PM
2d fts 1-2-1-2 YEAH!! (Shut up, it means a lot to me ::))
Also 2d fts 1-2 from shuffle for the first time lol.

Beni

Okay Beni, you're  special, don't let anyone tell you you aren't ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 06, 2008, 10:19:58 PM
Stupid number whore >:(.
Even your slackwhips are numbers ::).

Well, let's see you get into Nick's string rejection mount from the collab video in one whip ;).

Beni
(ending every sentence with a smiley ;D)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 06, 2008, 10:24:36 PM
Don't be angry Beni, everyne here sticks up for you, if someone says you're not fit to eat with the pigs, we say you are. :D. Sorry Beni, I couldn't resist, the old SPECIAL gag. If thats with Unfeeds I'd call that good. :)


Also got a landed ott of 3d over the arm.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on February 06, 2008, 10:28:43 PM
3 high - 5 catches, 1 hour of practice  :D i reckon it was a fluke.

531




with 3 balls of course.


and i learnt to stand on one of those cool ball things
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 06, 2008, 11:05:03 PM
almost 20 catches of five..........balls. Don't think I'm that close to tony. ;)

Also got leg stall wrap.


(30! throws and catches of 5)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 07, 2008, 01:27:46 AM
I am lost in a sea of slacks

i only remembered about doing double slacks (like double trapeze in 1 motion type thing) late last week, i'm sure the first time i saw them was mofro but i remember him langerz and garner doing them about november last year. anyways i got them pretty much down over the weekend and experimented with them tonight. its ridiculous whats there mixing up the 1st or 2nd time round (eg cradle then trapeze instead of double). i am well looking forward to conventions for input and all that.

peace and love
mat:)

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on February 07, 2008, 01:17:46 PM
Casual Puppet arm whip and a fruity half string sun thru leg over the shoulder one as well.
Feel the need, the need for cheese
On the non diabolo side 8 ball cube (4-4)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on February 07, 2008, 06:37:29 PM
got 4 rotations of crossed stick fan. thats like a crossed stick sun but fanning not arms crossed. anyone else tried this?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 07, 2008, 09:08:33 PM
3d sun start, not that difficult. :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on February 07, 2008, 09:25:59 PM
Well, let's see you get into Nick's string rejection mount from the collab video in one whip ;).

Beni
(ending every sentence with a smiley ;D)

dont threaten people with slackwhips boy. or i'll take you to cleaners!

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 07, 2008, 09:27:51 PM
Haha langerz. It's not that hard, work it out yourself. BTW I have a week off next week so maybe, just maybe...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on February 07, 2008, 09:29:00 PM
i clearly already have. dont patronise me boy

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on February 07, 2008, 09:54:31 PM
Another slack cradle gyroflop thing *sigh*. Haven't learnt anything good with 1D in ages, hopefully it'll change in the holidays.

Someone might find it useful seeing as you CAN hold it for three or four smooth rotations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht2_oEJuh48
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 07, 2008, 10:42:00 PM
Leo, that's awesome!
Langerz, I guessed you would've known that slack already...

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 07, 2008, 10:45:20 PM
Yeah sick Leo.

I got 7 catches of 3high colums yesterday.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 08, 2008, 01:19:04 AM
3d crossed stick suns suck, grrr, I'm sooo tired. I've worked on them for like 5 hours but Haven't continued a shuffle afterwards.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 08, 2008, 01:24:49 AM
A nice one handed integral off slowicide, a funky new 2d suicide that has potential as a 2d integral, if i could just land it now :'(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 08, 2008, 02:14:19 AM
Landed the crossed sticks sun, and 3 otts of around the arm with a clean shuffle after.  :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 08, 2008, 04:33:54 AM
Tried some unwrapped 2d infinite suicides today(*Technically not infinite since it was with left hand)
Maxed out at about 5 or 6 rotations. (Also never exited cleanly, but noticed there were no extra knots on either diabolo)

I noticed that it was also possible to pop out one of the diabolos from the infinite unwrapped suicide, although i was never able to do it controlled.
Perhaps if controlled it could be something like feed the suns, with infinite unwrapped suicides. Sort of like doing the unwrapped suicide to genocide thing, but with 2 diabolos.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on February 08, 2008, 11:50:29 AM
everything is infinite if you do it 'right'
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 08, 2008, 04:41:19 PM
It's continuos if it loses spin, infinite if it lasts potentially for ever.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on February 08, 2008, 10:31:48 PM
It's continuous!

 :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on February 09, 2008, 12:12:55 AM
i hate to say it, garner is right. theres always a way

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on February 09, 2008, 05:12:38 PM
If this counts i getting soo close with my 2d shuffle i have flashes of it! ;D I'm really happy!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on February 09, 2008, 05:49:28 PM
5 continuous btb excalibur genocides today :) (bearing ::))

number juggling might be fun after all :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mickske on February 09, 2008, 09:48:12 PM
I got my Diabolo today, it's been great fun.

Besides the rolling start, basic power pulls, I also managed to pull of a Sun and Sun pulls very quickly. Open orbits are going good aswell, having a bit of a problem with wrapped ones because the string tangles up on the axle like all the time... I managed to do a couple of left trapeze's aswell but I'm missing my string more than I hit it. More practice tomorow! :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on February 09, 2008, 09:53:17 PM
btb inverse trapeze!
also, you know how sometimes when you're learning, you skip something REALLY REALLY basic and move on to harder tricks? I just figured out how to do leg orbits, and i'm working on arm orbits, which is funny because yesterday i was working on extended infinite suicide and genocide sequences
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: BVB231 on February 09, 2008, 11:17:41 PM
I just learned vortex, 2d ping pong, and i got 2 shuffles in 3d ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 10, 2008, 12:10:42 AM
Beginning to ;earn 2d shuffle ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on February 10, 2008, 02:13:33 AM
I just learned to do a 2d shuffle. With a weight kitted finesse and an arlequino.
seems more impressive? not really.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 10, 2008, 03:23:45 AM
siteswap 42 to sun, not too hard when you get the right technique.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on February 10, 2008, 04:32:53 AM
siteswap 42 to sun, not too hard when you get the right technique.

duh nothing is hard with the right technique ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 10, 2008, 04:49:17 AM
2d shuffle :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 10, 2008, 09:01:10 AM
Haha Hathaway. Me and my stupid American spellcheck ::).

I just learnt a 2d slackwhip.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: sasha on February 10, 2008, 10:23:57 AM
just yesterday i did a very simple mini-genocide and got my slack whips good now (maybe i already wrote that :/ )
still cant do more than five catches with 2d but ill get it soon enough!
:D

Sasha

(playing way too much ping-pong)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on February 10, 2008, 11:21:07 AM
1 stick diaboloing.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 10, 2008, 12:38:46 PM
One stick with a loop of string attached? I've played around with that a little; you need to orbit to get speed which is hassle but duicides (one stick duicides... hmm) are fun.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 10, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
duh nothing is hard with the right technique ::)
:D Very true, I meant to say, the technique is not difficult to obtain. ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on February 10, 2008, 01:53:34 PM
One stick with a loop of string attached? I've played around with that a little; you need to orbit to get speed which is hassle but duicides (one stick duicides... hmm) are fun.


Sort of,   I have one end of string in stick like normal, And the other tied to end of grip (Half way along the stick)

Some cool tricks to be done with it, Especially with 2d imo. 
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 11, 2008, 01:17:01 AM
360 Fake Whips are getting much more solid.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 11, 2008, 01:32:22 AM
Slack into double cradle, double and back to front lacerations.
3D coming along...slowly...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 11, 2008, 10:07:36 AM
A GT like I've never seen before.
The most awesome reformation I've ever done (fluke).

I've also learnt to envy legault's long string...

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 11, 2008, 12:55:08 PM
double slacks are mint as chips.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ericgk on February 11, 2008, 01:54:24 PM
 anti shuffle accelerations, not so good looking as ginger tom does it but still trying :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on February 11, 2008, 05:17:43 PM
beni is it the law that you have to post at least every third comment?

so you know its reasonably easy to get double/triple slacks, like diabolobro did in snowbound but try doing it in one motion so it atchually looks good. ALL about style folks.

i just learnt to....... do loads of slack/knot tricks

mofro
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on February 11, 2008, 06:16:43 PM
Woo practiced for about an hour and a half today. I haven't done that much since Manc convention months ago. Got about 10 new excalibur tricks and my three high has hit a wall at 20 catches. Also got some new suicidey genocide stuff.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 11, 2008, 09:38:29 PM
A GT like I've never seen before.
The most awesome reformation I've ever done (fluke).

I've also learnt to envy legault's long string...

Beni
Don't envy it, just use it.  ;)
My string is from the ground to slightly above my forehead, tied to the sticks.
Its fun to use but makes vertax genocides, very, very hard- In fact for some reason, it makes multiple vertax genocides slightly easier if you've already learned to do them(I think its because you throw the out farther).

Seriously, I am really wanting to film now...Wishing i had a camera.
I'm not really a editor or clean trick person(Most tricks i learn, i just learn and go past i don't get clean exits(Caught, but not totally clean, so when i do make a vid it'll take a while showing clean tricks and combos......maybe i can get Moffett to edit for me...If I'm lucky and he's feeling generous.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 11, 2008, 09:40:11 PM
Uhoh, a 5 post gap!

About the double slack thing, it's possible to get both slacks around the diabolo with no excess. Kind of hard to explain, but you know when you do a double trapeze slack there is a lag and it actually takes quite a while to do it in terms of slack whips? Well you can get the same speed with a movement of the left hand. I have a achieved this once.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 12, 2008, 03:33:37 AM
Finger grinds :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: CheshireBeagle on February 12, 2008, 03:42:18 AM
2d spinklers :). Kind of odd though because I haven't learned suns yet. Is this normal?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on February 12, 2008, 03:52:57 AM
2d spinklers :). Kind of odd though because I haven't learned suns yet. Is this normal?

yes

working on feed the sun and vortex suicides - they're both seeing progress
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 12, 2008, 08:14:46 AM
Slack nerds.   :P

3d throw start and wrap start both getting quite solid. Actually bothered to learn them
Also starting to like finesse again for some reason. Matt will be proud.  ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on February 12, 2008, 09:36:58 AM
thats not new beni

lz

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomMiller on February 12, 2008, 11:57:56 AM
infinite suicide gen exit
Integrals
wrapped mini g,

Finally!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on February 12, 2008, 12:01:47 PM

Also starting to like finesse again for some reason. Matt will be proud.  ::)

Oh i am Will, i am! learning to find my style, and tame the bearing once more.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on February 12, 2008, 02:40:09 PM
everything is infinite if you do it 'right'

elevator ?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ginger_Tom on February 12, 2008, 03:24:54 PM
Finesse suck, Matt, You have no style.

I mean none at all.

A dead pidgeon has more style than you.

GT
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on February 12, 2008, 04:35:08 PM
not leave my msn on when I'm doing something else

sorry gt :-*
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on February 12, 2008, 10:24:04 PM
mini-genocide (chinese suicide start)
mini-genocide wrap start (gettin' better on it)
finnaly trying to learn Vertax genocide
and trying to improve my UFO grind..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on February 12, 2008, 10:51:08 PM
i know GT, its why im trying to find it, lost it a while back.  But atleast im not Beni.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on February 12, 2008, 10:57:39 PM
today i just learn:
ufo grind
put the diabolo in vertax
a something like vertax trapeze
and i will try excalibur genocides(maybe tomorrow :P)

yeah. i am very noob, i just play diabolo for 2 months :-X

sorry for the bad english, i am portuguese :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 12, 2008, 11:31:43 PM
Calm down GT.
But yeah, we all know Matt has no style, but you don't have to yell at him!
And Beni's Diabolo tennis combo?
Stylin'.  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on February 12, 2008, 11:43:54 PM
dont try and calm down a GT, you'll just anger it further! they do bite you know, its actually quite cold in the northern territory of the GT at the moment so they are prone to voilent outbursts around feeding time. dont say i didn't warn you, GT's dont like authority.

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 12, 2008, 11:57:36 PM
Who says a dead pigeon has no style?

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2697455/2/istockphoto_2697455_dead_bird_with_flies_vector_300dpi_jpg_tif.jpg

Throw a 40's hat on him, and I think it might work.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 13, 2008, 10:39:38 AM
But atleast im not Beni.

What's that supposed to mean?
We've all seen your awesome knot combo in the collab video ::).

Now quit the hostility.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on February 13, 2008, 11:13:28 AM
hey man, dont have a go at me just coz i dont like a lot of the people on here ;D

And btw...where was ur part in the collab vid mate? keep it on topic, i was just replying to another post, dont need to have needless input. Especially from people who have little of interest so say. It's why a lot of people dont post much.

sorry Mods, get this baby back on topic.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 13, 2008, 12:31:59 PM
The best trick in the world ever... those at chocfest know what i'm talking about stay tuned for video or just wait till the next convention. in a fight this trick would beat hulk hogan, bruce lee and your mother easy.

and smash chuck norris's face off
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on February 13, 2008, 12:34:51 PM
I just found quite a cool vertex trick with a beer bottle :)

@Funty: Impressive, but would that trick beat Chuck Norris?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on February 13, 2008, 12:56:33 PM
I just found quite a cool vertex trick with a beer bottle :)

i can almost garentee i've done it
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 13, 2008, 01:37:29 PM
3D nearly solid..except for the start, considering my string is now short, broken, and grippy now that i'm out of it.
- Oh yeah, thanks to Diabolo88 especially.
Thanks.  ;D
Also got my 2d suns to stop having that frontwrap, got some double and triple 2d suns, and almost a c-fan.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on February 13, 2008, 04:05:53 PM
This post has been edited to help save lives  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: barnesy on February 13, 2008, 04:10:03 PM
Oops, sorry nev - I've made your reply to Tom make little sense as  I removed his post.  Entertaining as these silly squabbles can be, this one has crossed the line and I'd rather not let the forum get too full of that sort of rubbish. 
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Spink on February 13, 2008, 05:18:23 PM
i think a new blackpool tower string figure (eiffel for the frenchies) but sunning with a stick jabbed in.

string rejections are now at a decent level, and  a cool trick with a revolution kit and a uv penlight

I just wish i had a ' Nick'n'Langerz-in-my-pocket ' keychian

Oops, sorry nev - I've made your reply to Tom make little sense as  I removed his post.  Entertaining as these silly squabbles can be, this one has crossed the line and I'd rather not let the forum get too full of that sort of rubbish. 


Good old Barnesy, allways the moderator  ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: barnesy on February 13, 2008, 05:23:10 PM
I don't like having to delete stuff, but threats (however pathetic they are) are bang out of order, and I'm not standing for it.   If anyone has a problem with any of that, talk to me or another member of the forum mod team but keep it off the forum.

Now back to whatever counts as on topic around here, please.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 13, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
where was ur part in the collab vid mate?

There was plenty without me :). Anyway I wasn't doing much diabolo at that point...

I just learnt some GT thingy...
Spink, Leo and Funty — sounds interesting.

Beni


Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 13, 2008, 09:31:25 PM
Excalibur
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 14, 2008, 02:26:39 AM
Landed 8 continuous triple vertax genocides in a row today at the juggling club  ;D.
Also landed some of those UFO grind tip genocides(The one in that votw)

Came up with a slogan for GT.
"I'm right, Your wrong, get used to it."
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on February 14, 2008, 03:25:44 AM
btb excaliber genocide  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 16, 2008, 04:13:17 PM
4 throw of 3d vertax passing, between two people. Very hard with only 2 people, and very doable with 3 people.

6 catches, 7 thows 2d vertax, I am so close to eight, dropped the 7th catch at least 8 times.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on February 16, 2008, 08:20:57 PM
Finger grind and almost excalibur genocides :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 16, 2008, 09:28:29 PM
J-Whips.
Almost got Eifel tower
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on February 17, 2008, 04:15:58 AM
how're you getting into the three diabolo passing and the two diabolo excalibur? sounds gnarly
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on February 17, 2008, 09:27:19 AM
Yeah man that vertax passing sounds insane? Any footage?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on February 17, 2008, 01:30:21 PM
I just got j-whips and trashes web by mistake, but i'm working on the tower thing.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: allsoppy5 on February 17, 2008, 01:43:20 PM
fan while lying down and a big long leg combo which includes alot of behind the back! lol
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 17, 2008, 01:45:29 PM
how're you getting into the three diabolo passing and the two diabolo excalibur? sounds gnarly
I don't think you'll be that surprised, it's actually pretty easy, but I can only judge how well it can go by my attempts at two high. Which, though lose spin are actually, strangely sustainable. and passing or doing 3d vertax with the same method in my opinion seems easier. I made a video, you'll soon see, but the attempts from ethan don't look promising despite the ones by myself being so.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on February 17, 2008, 02:21:07 PM
i'm finally learning 2d low to 2d high
and working on vertax pass..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: James C B on February 17, 2008, 05:41:01 PM
nearly learnt the vertax, just got to keep it going lol, had to take a break after the string snapped and it hit me in the face  :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on February 17, 2008, 05:56:52 PM
Cool stuff diabolo bro! Looking forward to the video!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 17, 2008, 10:11:03 PM
the tower thing.

I love you.

I just learnt some outside-the-box stuff, but I think I prefer it back in the box where it is warm and cosy.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on February 18, 2008, 12:17:56 PM
Lol, thanks beni. I still can't get it i can't get my head round how i need to turn my stick round, man its confusing, but other than that my 2d shuffle is getting better i can get it round about 6 times before it colaplses, thats with a good wrap start.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on February 18, 2008, 05:04:03 PM
I got 4 continuous excal genocides at JuggleFest + several other excal tricks solid
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on February 18, 2008, 10:38:45 PM
finally with good UFO grinds
working on my vertax genocides.... I made another one perfect today....

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 19, 2008, 01:03:07 AM
Eifel Tower and a basic suicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 19, 2008, 02:40:46 AM
Eiffel's and a lost of variation's/tricks off.
Some cool 2d sprinkler things.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 19, 2008, 09:19:06 AM
Random OFO tricks.
I also learnt that I often forget what I am about to type, just before I type it.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 19, 2008, 01:01:17 PM
Continuous 2d suns and nearly c-fan(A few good rotations and then it whacked me in the face)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: James C B on February 19, 2008, 02:20:20 PM
double genocide, nearly triple but the speed of the string threw the diabolo and kinda hit the greenhouse  ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on February 19, 2008, 04:33:19 PM
This schoolholiday and the week before I´ve learnt:

4D:

Much better start now. A new PB as well in the most unstable pattern ever.

3D:

Changed my technique on the 3D sun(before it was solid but looked more like Yabes. Now it´s not very solid anymore but I´m trying to make it look more async). Started to learn fts. It´s weird, doing continous 5x isn´t so hard but just the exit is a big problem if anyone have any ideas ???.

Finally got the accelration into immediate 3 high somewhat solid. Also (inspired by the TND video) been trying to experiment with some sunvariations under a double armstall-start and box with some success.

2D: Variations on exits from normal sprinklers. That whip with pirouette under 1 high. Also started practicing the whip with a jump.

1D: Taiwanese legcombos (which I totally suck at :P) are getting better. Also got Williams inf. suicide exit variation with a genocide and a throw and a few selfinvented exits as well. Unwrapped inf. suicide on the right hand.
4 rounds of ropeskipping which I am extremely happy for(I am tall so any tricks involving physical speed are difficult). Also have learnt two stars, a vertical cross and a variation on the "triforce" stringtricks with whips.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on February 19, 2008, 08:41:03 PM
4d?!
Have you gotten a qualify yet? :o (I'm referring to if your trying 4d low)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Tomko401 on February 19, 2008, 09:21:46 PM
How can you get 4d!!??  I can barely get 2d!! :o
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ericgk on February 19, 2008, 09:36:18 PM
just got 180º fan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on February 19, 2008, 10:35:14 PM
almost excalibur genocides :P
but was raining and i didnt play diabolo :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on February 20, 2008, 12:06:03 AM
Quote
4d?!
Have you gotten a qualify yet?  (I'm referring to if your trying 4d low)

^I was talking about 4 high. 4D low is still only a distant dream for me :-\.

I did get a fluke run of 4D low a few months back ago (by using a one-handed stall and throwstarting nr 4) of about 2-2.5 rotations but it was just so out of control it wouldn´t even count as a pattern. Diabolos just drove themselves and fell off. Haven´t tried it again since then and probably wont (focusing on 4 high now).

I was told by Angela about a month back though that her students were practicing starting 4 low this way too, so maybe they can already do it longer and with control?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 20, 2008, 08:13:10 AM
2D minicolumns with a third in an armstall. And a 2d sprinkler with a third in an armstall. But the sprinkler died.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on February 20, 2008, 10:49:03 AM
The funty bow in all its glory  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on February 20, 2008, 03:40:06 PM
Quote
2D minicolumns with a third in an armstall. And a 2d sprinkler with a third in an armstall. But the sprinkler died.

Got any tips for the 2D columns with an armstall? I have tried it before but never with success. The stalled Diabolo always fell off.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Moabiter on February 20, 2008, 03:46:49 PM
Wrapped miniGens, infinite suicide to Genocide, genocides(big) from open string and 2D over right arm (I am lefty) ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on February 20, 2008, 04:22:38 PM
I worked on Fans the past week(s) and I can finally say I have a ''comfortable'' fan. Can start it from ackward positions, I am able to change the rotation speed if I want to and don't have to be really concentrated to keep 'em going =)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 20, 2008, 04:25:41 PM
The funty bow in all its glory  ;D

mwhahaha the word has spread!!! bet you can't do the funtycopter lift yet. that is a ridiculously hard trick to master  ;D maybe i should do a workshop on them at the bjc.

on topic ive got a great exit for the bow :)i'll show you at notts if both you and i are there, failing that ill see about recording for VOTW or at BJC
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on February 20, 2008, 04:35:22 PM
Fail and film it :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 20, 2008, 04:38:17 PM
it's too good to be caught on camera, like the elusive dodo (or something better and more amusing)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on February 20, 2008, 04:45:25 PM
mwhahaha the word has spread!!! bet you can't do the funtycopter lift yet. that is a ridiculously hard trick to master  ;D maybe i should do a workshop on them at the bjc.

on topic ive got a great exit for the bow :)i'll show you at notts if both you and i are there, failing that ill see about recording for VOTW or at BJC

"all its glory" - funtycopter n all (damn its hard  ;))

I added an arrow back to copter exit.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 20, 2008, 05:36:37 PM
1 rotation of 2d funtycopter people will cry in the streets
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on February 20, 2008, 06:29:51 PM
1 rotation of 2d funtycopter people will cry in the streets
Is that even possible? Your creativity baffles the mind. You should try it with one diab on the 'blade' in vertax.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 20, 2008, 07:20:57 PM
i didn't think so maybe it was the CGI. Blade?
i was playing with rings last week too and that was fun.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on February 21, 2008, 04:36:22 PM
uh, excuse me, but what exactly is a fantycopter?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 22, 2008, 12:10:31 AM
i think you'll find its a u and its the best thing you'll ever see. it'll be recorded in a couple of weeks. get the best VOTW of 2008 award ready. ha.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Mark BMC on February 22, 2008, 12:24:11 AM
check fanty out getting all ****y.

ps. it is probobly the most awsome diabolo move ever.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 22, 2008, 12:38:17 AM
i should probably give it a break now.  :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on February 22, 2008, 10:00:36 AM
^Not even a hint to what it is? Wanna see it NOW ;D.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on February 22, 2008, 10:30:42 AM
i'll do my best to film it this weekend, ive got a mate with a camera that seems to be uneditable:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on February 22, 2008, 06:21:36 PM
arm stall fan entry!!  ;D and my inf. suicide genocide release is coming along nicely too. ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 23, 2008, 03:22:55 AM
YAY.  ;D
Feed the suns 2-3!
YAY
YAY
YAY. Etc.

Extremely happy.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: lupii on February 23, 2008, 01:47:03 PM
anti shuffl/ anti sprinkler  :D :D :D

anti sprinkler is kind a funny
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on February 23, 2008, 02:25:50 PM
My 2d shuffle is almost there! hope fully i have it by the end of the day, and also got another slack and a cople of differnt exits.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Spink on February 23, 2008, 03:20:18 PM
wrapped mini g => integral => mini g => integral
not the smoothest but i've been at it for months now
Click click to me i think  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 23, 2008, 03:40:09 PM
got 12 throw of 3high from 3low within the first two miniutes of trying in the freezing cold. also a catch of tow of 4high here and there.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yitavd on February 23, 2008, 05:02:44 PM
3d hover start is solid now!
yay!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 23, 2008, 09:36:24 PM
2d high vertax for 11 throws.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on February 23, 2008, 09:40:58 PM
2d high vertax for 11 throws.

Care to explain how this works?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 23, 2008, 10:12:48 PM
I submitted it, but I'm not sure how cool it is, I'm making a video anyway.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pranay on February 23, 2008, 10:16:07 PM
One week ago I did the bloodyclowns integral(The one,that crackers did) 8 times continuesly directly after the other in one run;-)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on February 23, 2008, 10:36:59 PM
Nice  :)
Only managed to get 3 of thoses in a row
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on February 24, 2008, 03:45:51 AM
wrapped mini g => integral => mini g => integral
not the smoothest but i've been at it for months now
Click click to me i think  ;D
Click Click
I was worried you'd gone totally slack these days.

Not picked up much recently myself, a few slacks and an easier version of Nevs Wrist Slack Self Harmer Cry For Help to Inf Suicide.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 24, 2008, 04:26:12 AM
Just learned to keep the Diabolo in Vertax without the need for turning.
Also Vertax Genocides without turning.
3D double sun.
3D double sun to armstall. Or [3sun,sun to armstall]
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on February 24, 2008, 04:38:31 AM
Got a bunch of new trick (3 sun to double stall to one handed hold, more box stuff, staircase sfan, a couple 2 diabolo combos that I'm still trying to work out, a 1 diabolo combo)  Should I do a short one minute ish video now or save it for a longer video later?

Josh

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on February 24, 2008, 04:46:14 AM
learning a new kind of transfer
getting better on my UFo grinds and on vertax pass (UFO to whip)
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on February 24, 2008, 05:34:04 AM
Should I do a short one minute ish video now or save it for a longer video later?

Save it for a longer one.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Pete on February 24, 2008, 07:46:57 PM
3 low endurance 29minutes 27 secs. Just short of my half hour target...dam.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on February 24, 2008, 08:05:09 PM
3 low endurance 29minutes 27 secs. Just short of my half hour target...dam.
Unlucky, though still bloody impressive
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pranay on February 24, 2008, 11:33:21 PM
Nice  :)
Only managed to get 3 of thoses in a row
Maybe it's why you use extremes(if you still use them).
With carbons it's much easier for me because of the weight....There is just not as much pressure going on.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on February 25, 2008, 12:31:41 AM
Possible yes, I feel very unconfortable doing genocides with my set of carbons though
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on February 25, 2008, 01:31:52 AM
if you can, try sundia short carbons, they bridge the gap.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on February 25, 2008, 01:50:32 AM
learning a little more things with 2D...
like stalls, suns
and another basic things...
..I want another diabolo soon..
my friend forget his diabolo here... so I could train with 2 diabolo all day...
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: xiaman on February 25, 2008, 03:12:27 AM
2D mini-columns, and left stop-overs (I'm left-handed).
Within minutes of each other, mini-columns coming first :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: jwockydwb on February 27, 2008, 12:22:39 PM
finally, a nice day to go outside and practice. After months of indoor diaboloing while fearing for the safety of breakables, it's a beautiful day, and although I have a deadline I decided I could take a couple hours off and head out.

smoothed out some minigen combos I haven't been able to practice, as well as regular genocides, and best of all, infinite suicide (half a dozen revolutions) with a clean exit. I didn't smack myself in the face with a stick or anything.

wheeeeeee!

but now, back to work

boooooo!

-dWb
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on February 27, 2008, 01:44:22 PM
if you can, try sundia short carbons, they bridge the gap.
They are that different ?
I'm buying Trash's sticks soon I think, thoses might be the solution  :) I still love my extremes though ^^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on February 27, 2008, 04:39:51 PM
They are that different ?
I'm buying Trash's sticks soon I think, thoses might be the solution  :) I still love my extremes though ^^

Amen to that! I got Trash's web down today as well as some other slacks that i had never seen before.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on February 27, 2008, 08:25:28 PM
The short ones are really different, im a carbon man myself, but these are just amazing, smooth as.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on February 27, 2008, 08:41:19 PM
excalibur genocide.
excalibur btb pass genocide.

btw i need some help please.

how to speed you diabolo on vertax?

cause when i do excalibur genocides when i will catch the stick sometimes the diabolo stops and falls :(

sorry for the bad english but can someone help me please? :'(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on February 27, 2008, 08:57:28 PM
Speed up more before.  You really shouldn't lose that much speed with good technique.  You string when catching should be parallel along with the diabolo.  Then when your coming out you shouldn't leave the wrap on for long and how you transition between catching the string and the stick is key too.  Good technique will come through practice.  Good luck with it.

Josh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 27, 2008, 09:39:44 PM
2d vertax duicide pass, and duicide pass to duicide pass.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on February 27, 2008, 09:49:30 PM
Diabolo Bro, how are you exactly doing this 2d vertax?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 27, 2008, 10:29:09 PM
This is a different 2d vertax, 2d vertax pass, duh. I throw a duicide, Ethan throws a duicide, I catch a duicde, Ethan catches a duicide.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on February 27, 2008, 10:55:46 PM
triple vertax gens
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on February 27, 2008, 11:12:58 PM
2d vertax pass, duh.
well, you didn't make it obvious. would that not just be vertax passing? the fact that its with one or two is fairly irrelivant, 2d never hits one string. all theoretical mind.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Nahxela on February 27, 2008, 11:42:54 PM
Hey, Matt, don't suppose you'd want to share some pics of that dog-bitten finesse, by any chance? I'm still curious as to know how it looks...

Anywho, I've been experimenting with infinite suicide genocide releases and interesting ways to re-enter.
So far I've just ended up doing a finger grind of the genocide and doing a suicide start/re-entry, I've also tried a bounce variation of this, but not to much success.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 27, 2008, 11:52:10 PM
well, you didn't make it obvious. would that not just be vertax passing? the fact that its with one or two is fairly irrelivant, 2d never hits one string. all theoretical mind.
Fair enough sorry, the duh was uncalled for my bad....wow I dislike that phrase...hmm.

Anyway, I just got 4beat swinging fans consistant, anyone for a 360?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on February 28, 2008, 03:03:18 PM
So its 2 person vertax? not 2d at all is it?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 28, 2008, 04:09:21 PM
So its 2 person vertax? not 2d at all is it?
Oh, where to begin, oh where to begin. I posted a while ago about 2high vertax, which is one person, 2d vertax duicide pass, is what I recently posted 2 seperate tricks, 2high, and also 2d vertax duicide pass, not a 2d duicide, a 2d pass, 2 duicdes in the air at once, two seperate pairs of sticks, I've submitted 2high for a votw for all interested, and I am also making a video of my own which is underway.

Apologies for the mix up.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on February 28, 2008, 05:03:06 PM
Anyway, I just got 4beat swinging fans consistant, anyone for a 360?

*5 beat. I'd be very impressed if you managed a 4 beat, as that would involve at least 4 swings to do and undo the knots.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on February 28, 2008, 05:17:25 PM
Yeah 5 beat, sorry about that, I have no sense of rhythm

EDIT: just invented Double Eiffel tower and intricate Eiffel tower.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on February 28, 2008, 06:28:36 PM
Woot!!! I got my 2d shuffle down.Its really good, my corrections need a bit of work but otherwise there good.Just need some tricks down now.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on February 28, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
Speed up more before.  You really shouldn't lose that much speed with good technique.  You string when catching should be parallel along with the diabolo.  Then when your coming out you shouldn't leave the wrap on for long and how you transition between catching the string and the stick is key too.  Good technique will come through practice.  Good luck with it.

Josh
i will practice, ;)
but i unwarp when i catch the stick


thanks
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ericgk on February 29, 2008, 12:54:17 PM
left c fan ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on February 29, 2008, 03:28:21 PM
A very very messy 2d knot combo  :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on February 29, 2008, 09:55:21 PM
5 catches 3Low shuffle
6 catches 2D around the leg
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 01, 2008, 05:17:20 PM
i just learned that trying minigens with your teeth gives you rope burn on your lips.


i also learned that vertax is very good fun
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 01, 2008, 10:51:07 PM
i also learned that vertax is very good fun
Yeah it is.

I just learnt 42424242, I'm only 6 away jacob, duh, duh, duh!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on March 01, 2008, 11:36:33 PM
by all means, do 11
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on March 02, 2008, 01:52:34 AM
I'll go for 12 then. Alex and myself made a deal that he would come to Aust when I got 10.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 02, 2008, 02:41:41 AM
 :D Nah I'm just kidding, I don't think I'm anywhere near 10, I'd be thrilled with five, Ethan was jokong about it when I was trying to film some continuous 42s :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 03, 2008, 12:39:11 AM
3D grind, to 42 :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on March 03, 2008, 12:40:11 AM
360 fan finally!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 03, 2008, 09:14:50 PM
Forgot to post this a while ago, I just learned a very instant Eiffel  one whip, and you're there, have it consistant now.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on March 04, 2008, 10:20:00 AM
3 low on a tightwire and 120cm rolling globe.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 04, 2008, 10:24:57 AM
do it on your head.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 04, 2008, 07:47:05 PM
I just learned a very instant Eiffel  one whip, and you're there

Well isn't that the definition of instant-ness?

I've not being doing a lot of diabolo lately, what with GCSE work and music practice for a performance coming up, but I still found the time to learn...
• A normal diabolo move based on one of langerz's loop combo endings
• Some 3rd base realization
• Solid 2d J whip from shuffle
• Unimaginative 2d eiffel tower based on this whip
• Unimaginative 2d slack based on this whip

I have, however, forgotten quite a lot. I believe I am having, in the words of Busk, a creative crisis.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Nick on March 04, 2008, 08:06:17 PM
I have, however, forgotten quite a lot.
Maybe if you had filmed some of your stuff for us you could have looked back on it and it would have helped you to remember. ;)
"Oh, that's right, I went there."
Nick.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 04, 2008, 09:34:49 PM
Well isn't that the definition of instant-ness?
I don't know....It's quicker than Marron's, and also simpler, it's probably already been discovered, just stumbled upon it. Lz would probably call it an untrue Eiffel
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 04, 2008, 10:24:59 PM
"Oh, that's right, I went there."
That, "Oh, cool!!" and "Oh co- SH*T! Stupid knot :-[" about sums up my diaboloing life.

@ Al and anyone who cares: I find the easiest instant eiffel is doing a C whip onto the left stick and pulling the right stick out of the loop at the same time. However, this may or may not be counted as instant, depending on how the string lies... do it and you'll see.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 04, 2008, 10:28:53 PM
same one
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on March 05, 2008, 10:53:48 AM
round of applause from me there nick,

lz

i leant............ loads of stuff
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on March 05, 2008, 10:55:54 AM
alternating sprinkler suicide releases out of a triple sprinkler
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Mark BMC on March 05, 2008, 05:40:35 PM
alternating sprinkler suicide releases out of a triple sprinkler

Nice, If you dont have that down 100% at the bjc I'm gonna shake my fist at you for making me read LIES!!!

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on March 05, 2008, 06:08:21 PM
...Shuffle 3D for 3 and a 1/2 minutes.

OFFTOPIC: Finally got the Rubik's revenge sussed, now for learning parity. For more geeky rubiks cube related chat see our IRC channel ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on March 05, 2008, 06:45:56 PM
i leant that i'm actually rubbish at all diabolo related things...

+i got a video in an email: some footage from crawley, you know what i mean
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on March 05, 2008, 07:20:26 PM
the phrase 'rock out with your **** out' comes to mind

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Mark BMC on March 05, 2008, 09:31:53 PM
or "hang out with your wang out"
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 05, 2008, 11:00:12 PM
votw?

(also been playing with imaginary webs(a big mess that is actually open string))
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 06, 2008, 02:12:36 AM
2d trashes web, from whip :-\
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: DaviD Brackpool on March 06, 2008, 04:23:07 PM
j whip whilst in vertax  didnt manage anything from it though  ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: relic on March 06, 2008, 05:36:43 PM
Finally worked out infinate suicides, not very impressive along side the amazing things other people on here are doing but it's a personal achivement I'm pleased with and that's what counts for me!  :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on March 06, 2008, 08:06:39 PM
Woot i have posted about my 2d shuffle a couple of times now, But it is now solid with corrections! i also manged to get a triple trashes web! but i have only done it once.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 06, 2008, 09:14:16 PM
double vertax trashes wed
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on March 06, 2008, 09:20:13 PM
double vertax trashes wed

Video please.

~
20 ott 3 low
A random 3 low string control start - Sketchy
2d trick - That string orbit around diabolo in mini columns (That JiBe did) Doing that trick in normal shuffle with backwrap every pass

Swinging fans - And lots of random fans, T.T

O, And a cool sprinkler/knot etc trick
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 06, 2008, 09:41:19 PM
Video please.
Working on one, i don't know...maybe

just learned 2d star, flippin sweet ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on March 06, 2008, 09:46:47 PM
You learn too much. Stop learning!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 06, 2008, 10:40:57 PM
You learn too much. Stop learning!
NO!!   Never!!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 06, 2008, 11:02:25 PM
another start to infinite suicide (a kind of duicide start)
infinite suicide to genocide to duicide

and improving my vertax genocides...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 06, 2008, 11:13:45 PM
infinite suicide to genocide to duicide
hmm, how does that work
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on March 06, 2008, 11:33:05 PM
i just figured out slowicide minigens!

and diabolobros,
in diabology, there is this move where one of them uses an infinite suicide to magic knot, then swings the stick in a genocide. transitioning to a duicide would be easy (slowicide duicide? not really)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 07, 2008, 12:31:38 AM
Vux does this trick, yes, but that would be an infinite-magic knot-genocide, then just a duicide after, you wouldn't be able to link it to the combo as descrbed.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on March 07, 2008, 12:35:09 AM
true. i guess that leans on your definition of "to". maybe he duicides it while wrapped? like a duicide and a slowicide all put into one?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on March 07, 2008, 11:56:46 AM
i got vertax trash's web some time ago.. also got a few incidental variations.
3D Async! (Finally).. now gotta work on speed wraps and 42's.
nothing else  :o
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on March 07, 2008, 04:55:48 PM
votw?

(also been playing with imaginary webs(a big mess that is actually open string))

welcome to my world MUAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on March 07, 2008, 05:14:53 PM
I decided to post here for the first time in quite some time.....

I can do 2d backwraps every pass now, damn I'm happy. It has taken way too long though :-P

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on March 07, 2008, 06:23:01 PM
I just re-learnt open string genocides. Anyone remember when people used to learn these a couple of years ago?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on March 07, 2008, 07:14:30 PM
I don't actually post what I learn here very often... mostly been working on learning how to get 3low going as fast as possible with every 4th wraps. Nearly can leave it alone with only slight movement now. Thanks to that, I managed a flukey, sketchy-but-it-worked 3d big sun.

Leo, not sure what you mean by those open string genocides.
 
Edit - oh, those ones
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 07, 2008, 07:55:14 PM
well done marijn! (and everyone else too:))

you confuse me diabolo bro 2d vertax slacks. 2d slacks are hard. vertax slacks are hard. by putting them together does it make it easy? 2 wrongs make a right type of thing?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on March 07, 2008, 09:34:34 PM
well on the provable point the '-1=1' then i'd say everything is both easy and hard at the same time
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on March 07, 2008, 09:35:03 PM
omfg
today i learn how to break a wood stick doing 3x excalibur genocide  :o :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on March 07, 2008, 10:20:03 PM
High five.
My 3d chinese acceleration is getting there. I've got the feeling for it. I think it has potential to be continuous.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 07, 2008, 10:31:55 PM
hmm, how does that work

it's an infinite to genocide...
than I do something like a duicide but it's different (I call it duicide because for a moment I don't have any stick in hand) soh after the genocide I release the right stick get the left and after get the right....

I don't now if you can understand it....

my infinite suicide to genocide is here.. I do it a lot of time ago...
now it's very better...

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=HrzrImcfHpY

but the start of this trick is it..

..

EDIT: another tihng.... I do that Vux trick (infinite - magic knot - genocide) but it's that I'm talking about..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on March 08, 2008, 12:58:06 AM
High five.
My 3d chinese acceleration is getting there. I've got the feeling for it. I think it has potential to be continuous.
If it's the one with the exchange it would be very hard ...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on March 08, 2008, 01:11:08 AM
Its like the one you showed m in that video.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on March 08, 2008, 01:18:30 AM
Then even harder, you'll have a hard time making the middle diabolo jump.
There's perhaps a way of making two in a row, but the third one would be on the first diabolo (always the same diabolo would stay on the left). If it's sunny tomorrow I'll give it a try ^^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Shaun on March 08, 2008, 04:16:59 AM
Finally got 2d leg and arm orbits, some slackwhip trick, couple of s-fan exits and entries, and other random tricks. Slowly getting there.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 08, 2008, 05:58:17 PM
well on the provable point the '-1=1'
Debatable... (i.e. square root of 1 = 1, square root of -1 = ...)

I just learnt that everyone's getting a lot better while I'm plodding along or possibly reversing. :-\

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on March 08, 2008, 06:07:52 PM
The square root of -1=I

-that's further maths right there!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on March 08, 2008, 06:57:23 PM
its a lower case i....

or a j...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on March 08, 2008, 07:14:56 PM
-1=-1

-1/1=1/-1

√(-1/1)=√(1/-1)

√(-1)/√(1)=√(1)/√(-1)

(√-1)(√-1)=(√1)(√1)

-1=1

beni:learn maths
sharpes:i HATE complex numbers(but alas, they a part of life)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on March 08, 2008, 09:03:08 PM
Hmm my PDA must've changed my lower case I to upper case automatically.

Did I mention I hate english?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 09, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
Imaginery numbers, meh, check out my new diabolo move; imaginary 3d triple duicides!
Hmm, in that case garner, I'll buy all your possessions for -£2,000,000.
There is a similar proof to 1=2.

EDIT: 24! * e = aproximately all the different orders of up to 24 cards
e= answer to life

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on March 09, 2008, 02:26:03 PM
imaginary 3d triple VERTAX duicides!

Beni
you forgot that  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on March 09, 2008, 06:11:56 PM
Beni, even people who hate maths know that the answer to life is 42.

I just learnt some cool sun combos with 2d.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on March 10, 2008, 12:04:54 AM
Beni, even people who hate maths know that the answer to life is 42.
I just learnt the meaning of life, twice.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: traPACK on March 10, 2008, 03:23:23 PM
two 2d big suns in a row and vortex suicide ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on March 10, 2008, 04:07:33 PM
Beni, even people who hate maths know that the answer to life is 42.

I just learnt some cool sun combos with 2d.
Jugglers are yet the only one to have realized that 42 does actually mean that the meaning of the life is 3.
At least the lives of the diabolists  8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 10, 2008, 04:58:15 PM
...which is the magic number. Eery.

I love the Hitchhikers guide. :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on March 10, 2008, 05:14:09 PM
...which is the magic number. Eery.

I love the Hitchhikers guide. :)

Douglas Adams is cool.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on March 10, 2008, 06:45:26 PM
j-whip
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 10, 2008, 06:54:59 PM
a cool grindy type entrance to around the arm and body
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on March 11, 2008, 01:24:06 AM
Been experimenting with incorrect sprinkler exit tricks (i.e when you suicide exit but the handstick comes back round the wrong side of the string ending in a half sun in effect).  The results are looking good at the mo.

But why am I getting distracted thinking this stuff up now with an essay in tomorrow?

Lou - loving yet another all nighter
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 11, 2008, 06:49:00 PM
best of luck with the essay:)

i just managed 3d for about 30 secs + did a sun +  did a sprinkler
just managed 4d for about 10 seconds:D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 11, 2008, 08:01:24 PM
best of luck with the essay:)

i just managed 3d for about 30 secs + did a sun +  did a sprinkler
just managed 4d for about 10 seconds:D
congrats on the 3d sprinkler
I'm assuming 4high ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 11, 2008, 08:12:52 PM
4 low. its a 2d sprinkler with the 3rd diab static. same with the sun but its got 3d on the same string.

before anyone else says. i'm not doing it the conventional way but its all good fun:) (and definitely not cheating)

x
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on March 11, 2008, 09:53:33 PM
cheater.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on March 11, 2008, 10:10:04 PM
double J whip or something like that,and begin 2d
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 11, 2008, 10:12:16 PM
almost getting continuous wrapped mini-genocide
and trying to learn tomicide to infinite suicide....
still working in the different starts for infinite suicide..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: lollige on March 11, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
I have no idea how its called
but today I figured I should not wait when I do a 2d left trapeze (out of a 2d right one) but swing it back immediately to a right trapeze.. I can wait with a right trapeze, but somehow the left trapeze always goes weird and weirder.. but now I do it quick I can do this trick I don't know the name of!

Also I can do a crossed-stick sun 2d (I never tried before utill yesterday.. I was able to do it yesterday XD)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 12, 2008, 12:50:15 AM
4 low.
10 seconds of 4 low is like a world record, 10 catches no 10 seconds is like 20 something catches
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on March 12, 2008, 01:12:21 AM
10 seconds of 4 low is like a world record, 10 catches no 10 seconds is like 20 something catches

if the record is less then 10 seconds its probably pretty close... not really sure tho. someone should make a topic listing all the diabolo/jugling world records :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on March 12, 2008, 04:48:44 AM
There are diabolo records somewhere on this forum. Search perhaps.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 12, 2008, 08:40:19 PM
Funty is out-of-the-box al, he probably means a number of diabolos are static but there are technically 4 of them. Btw that is totally cheating.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on March 12, 2008, 08:58:41 PM
right. its cheeting. be quiet benni, its as was previously said it funty is 'out of the box' 4 low has no rules to it.

unless u suddenly made some up? if so lets hear them king beni.

same to garner (although i have a feeling his was trying to be comical, if so fair play)

mofro.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 12, 2008, 09:11:17 PM
oh not shuffling.....ooOOhhh in early ejc videos people really got into that...I think i saw seven....yeah

MOD....2d guillotine...kind of thing
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on March 13, 2008, 11:25:27 AM
thanks mofro. i win. everybody knows not to take me seriously.

i anti-learnt 2 diabolo
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on March 13, 2008, 12:37:55 PM
Btw that is totally cheating.

You sound like a 12 yr old girl in the playground at school. Ssh.

My long vortex's are finally down! The shorts are getting there as well!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 13, 2008, 02:22:17 PM
i was gonna make a video and put in the 3 and 4d but thats not happening. the trick is to put them in the loops i have at the end of my strings and shuffle 2. its easier if you have someone else to do it or too speed them up once they're in. so technically it's 3/4d even though your only shuffling 2 :D if i have enough friends to help me i'll try for loads :)

x

ps mofro you are my knight in shining armor

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on March 13, 2008, 02:31:11 PM
You should definatley make a video! I bet 4d big suns look quite interesting, that is assuming they work!  :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 13, 2008, 02:33:26 PM
i'll do it at the bjc, have a go at 6 if everyone will help and place them in for me. ha.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 13, 2008, 05:14:33 PM
You sound like a 12 yr old girl in the playground at school.
Yeah I'm aware of that I was being ironic ::).
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: DaviD Brackpool on March 13, 2008, 05:19:58 PM
i'll do it at the bjc, have a go at 6 if everyone will help and place them in for me. ha.

how are you planning to do that if it works it will be insane ;D
 ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 13, 2008, 05:23:20 PM
Well, if you think about it, there are five fingers on each hand... with some careful string adjusting you can get yourself two handfuls of spinning diabolos.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on March 13, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
i was just gonna tie a couple of loops to the bottom of the ones i have but that might work better
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on March 14, 2008, 07:10:10 AM
Get a step ladder, then tie as many loops as there are diabolos!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TomerB on March 14, 2008, 09:05:57 PM
3D open suns - clean.
522 Sun ( or 42* ? not sure... ) - almost clean.
2D-Anti-Suicide-Untill-The-Speed-Of-The-Diabolos-Is-Over - clean.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on March 14, 2008, 10:11:30 PM
2d anti-suicide
vertax suicide (stick with diabolo at one end thing)
double vertax genocide ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 15, 2008, 02:23:44 AM
so close with 3d figure 8, and big suns
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: traPACK on March 15, 2008, 06:12:48 PM
1d-infinite suicide in non-dominant hand-duicide-inf.suicide...but not so clear
2d-i more improved my high skills...it means about 20catches
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ERIK da blue on March 15, 2008, 07:04:57 PM
wooo!
3 diabolo mini collumns acceleration!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: DaviD Brackpool on March 15, 2008, 10:07:45 PM
2d anti-suicide


nice well done  8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on March 15, 2008, 10:22:16 PM
wooo!
3 diabolo mini collumns acceleration!

its an acceleration? how dose that work?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 15, 2008, 11:01:19 PM
its an acceleration? how dose that work?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEQm1mKhG8
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on March 15, 2008, 11:52:06 PM
nice
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 16, 2008, 03:04:16 AM
522 Sun ( or 42* ? not sure... ) - almost clean.
They're the same, the siteswap is 42, but it originally took the siteswap 5[22sun]
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: DaviD Brackpool on March 16, 2008, 08:28:08 PM
infinite suicide majic knot release WOOT!! 8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 16, 2008, 08:45:42 PM
They're the same, the siteswap is 42, but it originally took the siteswap 5[22sun]
Yeah I've always thought of 2d suns as [22], 3d suns as [333] etc. because the speed is subjective.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 18, 2008, 12:21:15 AM
Yeah I've always thought of 2d suns as [22], 3d suns as [333] etc. because the speed is subjective.
3d sun is definitely not 333...cut that into a third...take it from someone who can do them, it's one beat.
Speed isn't THAT subjuctive.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on March 18, 2008, 01:47:04 AM
got 531 qualified and a much more stable 3 high.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on March 18, 2008, 01:50:23 AM
Wow you mods are quick.  ;D (We got some high quality mods)
The only reason i was saying that was because of the smug "Take it from someone who can do them, its one beat" comment.
I'm not disagreeing with him at all.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: tommi on March 18, 2008, 07:12:28 AM
3d sun is definitely not 333...cut that into a third...take it from someone who can do them, it's one beat.

Just because you can do the sun ONLY really fast, doesn't mean somebody couldn't do 3d sun really slow ('taking 3 beats').

Speed isn't THAT subjuctive.

Neither is siteswap.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 18, 2008, 11:00:03 AM
If someone could I'd be very surprised if they could make the sun itself last for 3 beats, that is a long time. Sure someone could do one slowly, but again, i'd think not that slowly

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on March 18, 2008, 12:03:16 PM
I do my 2d suns somewhat in the style of a c-fan, therefore lasting 2 beats.
If 3d c-fan is possible and is essentially doing suns a certain way, couldn't it last 3?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jussi on March 18, 2008, 12:30:07 PM
3d sun is definitely not 333...cut that into a third...take it from someone who can do them, it's one beat.

siteswaps have nothing to do with speed, time or height.. siteswaps are just order numbers, when that object will be thrown again..

maybe there is not siteswap for 3d sun because you throw nothing. maybe its 333. but it wont be anything else.

i think its not very usefull to use siteswaps for low diabolo stuff anyway..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 18, 2008, 04:24:53 PM
Al, Al, Al...

3d sun is not 333, it's [333]. In juggling, square brackets are used to indicate simultaneous throws. In diabolo, it's a bit different; it means that there are that many throws (which there are, they're just enclosed in a loop) but they happen at a different speed. This can also be notated as 3*, but I don't like asterisks in siteswap because they cut out a beat.
That's just my pedantic way of writing suns in siteswap.

EDIT:
siteswaps have nothing to do with speed, time or height.. siteswaps are just order numbers, when that object will be thrown again..

I disagree, if they're nothing to do with time, why are there different values for longer throws? True, they are not strictly to do with these dimensions, as one man's 7 is another's 5, but they do have something to do with them.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on March 18, 2008, 04:37:41 PM
i agree that low siteswaps should not be called siteswaps, why not give them original names like sun/vertax/orbits?

i don't really have any ideas of what to call stuff like 42 but 42* should just be called one up sun.
maybe it's time to rename a few tricks.  ???
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on March 18, 2008, 04:54:37 PM
Dunno about time to rename a few tricks, but perhaps it's time to get back on topic. If someone wants to continue the 'swap discussion, feel free to start a new thread.

As for learned stuff, I finally figured out 3d feed-the-sun. Also finally started qualifying 5ball bounce juggling and finally started to learn some multiball contact juggling after being surrounded by it for such a long time.

-Duncan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 18, 2008, 07:39:42 PM
3d sun is not 333, it's [333]. In juggling
oooOOOooh, I apologize, completely my fault there, I misunderstood :D

Back on topic: I just learnt that our routine for the upcoming talent show needs some work
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Conor on March 18, 2008, 08:28:44 PM
just learnt that i need to get alot better in three weeks, preferably one. and that i need a hair cut. also infinite wrapped minigens but i dont thinks thats so important.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 18, 2008, 10:40:24 PM
another vertax start (with a normal grind)
360 UFO grind
a kind of vertax suicide around the body... I'm improving it..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ollie on March 19, 2008, 03:05:31 PM
Hello,

I seems like I have finally got 3 high fairly consistent and it’s been a long time coming (nearly 2 years!). I’ve had nice runs before but it was maybe 1 in every 10 attempts or less and even then I usually struggled to get past 15-20 catches. But at the last juggling club I was consistently getting good starts and runs without much thought and the better ones were around 40+ catches. I think I will bake a cake when I get to 50 :) Something has definitely clicked. Then again I have thought something was clicking before and they were just false summits. I wonder how long or what standard do you need before you can say ‘I’ve just learnt…’?

Nev and I also had some of our smoothest passing ever too.

Duncan – nice to hear you are practicing some bounce and contact juggling. I always find it nice to see Diabolists juggling other props. Your 3d feed-the-sun sounds like a good breakthrough too, something for me to work towards perhaps?

Cheerio,

Ollie
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on March 19, 2008, 03:25:58 PM
Duncan – nice to hear you are practicing some bounce and contact juggling. I always find it nice to see Diabolists juggling other props. Your 3d feed-the-sun sounds like a good breakthrough too, something for me to work towards perhaps?

Yay, you're finally posting on here :)

I'm sure you'll be schooling me in some bounce stuff at the BJC - I've got some very basic patterns down and am eager for some stuff to mess with. My feed the sun won't be as spectacular as Jacob's stuff, but I'll try to impart what I've learned from figuring it out. I'll have to ask if Thom (cube boy from the Scottish if you remember) is coming down to the BJC and we can have a contact session as well

We've got to work on our passing for renegade as soon as we get there though ;)

As for standards for having learned something, I think it's mostly subjective to the person - learning is an ongoing process after all, and it sounds like you're finding a new summit to climb regarding 3d. For example, you learned to do 3high two years ago, so it's not like you're finally learning it - just learning to do it better.

Okay, back to learned stuff... learned that 3d gives me shoulder problems. Also starting to figure out how I can transition from 3low to high more consistently - now to get the throws down...

-Duncan

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ecuador16 on March 19, 2008, 03:45:02 PM
well
i dont really put too many posts here in diabolo.ca very often
but i feel like ive finally done some stuff that might be worth posting about

finally learned 2d mini columns and my fans are getting better progresively. I landed a 5,1 yesterday with 2d of course and my 2d high is getting a bit more solid. I've only played diabolo for about 6 or 7 months out of which i only have had 3 months of good practice time. Work, School, weather and soccer get in the way of practice time.

And ive also got some pretty decent 5 ball flashes and a couple of 4 ball tricks. I have no idea what they are called maybe ill post a video later and someone can tell me. And this is not very performance juggling related but i finally pulled off a back to back bouncing revolution in soccer. Probably a very lucky fluke
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 20, 2008, 01:14:25 AM
 >:(Nooooo, Noooooo :'( :'( :'( 3d mini columns, with a shuffle after, then I dropped the 5th catch. dam. :'(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on March 20, 2008, 02:44:18 AM
I would practice 3 high more but my arms get so tired...  I just can't hold it that long cause my hand gets way too tired...  I did get my second 3 up 360 along with a transition to 3 low to a clean finish.

Josh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on March 20, 2008, 05:47:21 AM
3 low is ok - Haven't practiced it in about a week though O.O

Getting ok with contact - Now I have another thing to waste money on T.T


And I'm working on my old sprinkler stuff again, Many ideas involving slacks + Suicides ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 20, 2008, 10:26:46 PM
God dam it. 3d mini columns again. I managed 10 catches, but had to move backwards to make a save and smashed into my wall, losing the shuffle, grrr. First day of spring my a** it's been snowing all day. *sigh* I'll take it but rr. so close.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt D on March 20, 2008, 11:01:27 PM
I haven't been diabolo much...I got 5 clubs down now though, and some cool 5 ball siteswaps and am getting alot better at my 3 in each hand...and am bounce juggling 5 consistently and bounce passing 9 with a kid who is amazing and does everything for me. Diaboloing i have been working on some 2d slacks, but nothing all that hard, my 3d is coming along well also just got a sun in a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 21, 2008, 01:16:46 AM
Alright I've gotten columns a few times now, and got five without a shuffle after.


500th POST

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Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 21, 2008, 09:38:55 AM
Well It's my first morning here in switzerland and there isn't a lot of distraction (SNOOOOW) or work (YEEEEEAH!!), and I have my camera + tripod. Maybe time for some filming?

Unfortunately, I have forgotten some really cool stuff, which is really p***ing me off. Grrr...
I just learnt an eiffel tower that I can't quite understand, a really simple star figure and a shaky and bo*****s combo.

Beni
(Can't remeber that awesome double ended triangle thing  >:()
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 21, 2008, 11:29:25 AM
mod edit - size 78 coloured font is unnecessary
Fair enough. Anyway. I've gotten it. 3d columns are very close to live.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on March 22, 2008, 01:07:04 AM
Today i just learnt to:
-vertax suns
-continuous excalibur genocides
-continuous btb pass excalibur genocides
-double excalibur genocides
-double btb pass excalibur genocides
-mini genocide with infinite suicide exit or something like that :-\
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 22, 2008, 06:28:42 PM
these VotW's (cool and easy):
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=ejhVsCPri3s&feature=related
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=790-j1Qgcw4

and some vertax starts...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on March 22, 2008, 07:45:30 PM
Umm slowcides and some slack exits, for a big routine I'm think up.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 24, 2008, 11:39:41 PM
productive day:
- improving my wrapped mini-genocides
- new vertax start (from the diabolo without spin, holding it in the arm)
- trying to learn another vertax start (giving spin with hand and catch'n the diabolo on air)
- first good vertax continuous genocide (just one by now)
- improving my infinite suicide with non-dominant hand
- trying to learn a trick that I don't now the name (right handed infinite suicide, when the diabolo is going to fall down you grab the string and wrap it again... I don't now how to explain this..)
- learning continuous wrapped mini-genocides 

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on March 25, 2008, 03:15:49 AM
I relearnt that poi is possibly one of the most dangerous forms of juggling (og;dc if you don't consider it juggling, call it manip. then)


Double orbits of string around diabolo in mini colums cleaner
A variation of the but in ping pong and crossing the string.


And still working on string control in a sprinkler - donno if I'm going to get anywhere, but I'm trying ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on March 25, 2008, 09:57:43 PM
I learnt that I can recover a bad vertax pass from the guy above me while falling on my behind.
And that he also can whip a stick right out of my hand when trying to do a blind whip catch out of my three low.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 25, 2008, 10:01:15 PM
with almost perfect non-dominant hand infinite suicide
continuous minig and variations of it..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on March 26, 2008, 12:12:19 AM
I learnt that I can recover a bad vertax pass from the guy above me while falling on my behind.
And that he also can whip a stick right out of my hand when trying to do a blind whip catch out of my three low.

I'm the best partnet for duo work....Ever.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 26, 2008, 10:30:58 PM
nothig very impresive...
but I learnt infinite suicide start and wrapped minig start with the diabolo without any spin starting on hand.
and still improving my right handed infinite suicide and my vertax duicide..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on March 27, 2008, 05:10:21 PM
I started learning poi today...its a lot easier then it looks once you put diabolo knowledge into it, I learnt swinging suns, swinging vertical sun, hyper loops, And I put a little diabolo twist in- A poi integral!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 27, 2008, 10:50:30 PM
raining day....could work just a bit in Continuous vertax genocide...
learnt some cradles and the strange thing that you grab the string and the sticks seems to be flying... I don't now the name...
just it today...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 28, 2008, 01:20:09 AM
star cradle..
with a little help of a guy of this forum..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on March 28, 2008, 04:04:24 AM
2d antishuffle and wrap unantishuffle
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on March 29, 2008, 12:04:23 AM
           330           , and           312            =D at least I think those are the site swaps
(throw, throw, wait)       (throw, sun, throw)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 29, 2008, 12:57:28 AM
I've gotten pretty good with a four ball shower :-[ and trying some mini columns to sun.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on March 29, 2008, 01:30:28 AM
I've gotten pretty good with a four ball shower :-[ and trying some mini columns to sun.

are those 3d mini columns>suns? and I'm working on 5 ball, but it bores me
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 29, 2008, 01:36:16 AM
are those 3d mini columns>suns? and I'm working on 5 ball, but it bores me
I just got it, and yes 3d. I can only manage half shower with five, I can juggle five, but, in the shower field that's it, ethan I think can shower for 7 throws or something.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on March 29, 2008, 02:14:00 AM
Since we shall all have a good old chat about juggling..
3 balls plus every basic/intermediate trick
4 balls, all kinds of stuff, shower below head, 4 up pirouettes
5 balls, half shower sometimes, shower is alright, random multiplex patterns (simple stuff)
6 balls, qualify
7 balls, flash plus 7 balls bounce runs - 30-40 catches
5 rings qualified, 6 rings flashed.
I just don't like clubs at all really. So I won't talk about them.
Also starting to get a slight feel for 3d string control.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on March 29, 2008, 04:40:20 AM
relearning integral suicides.. (almost perfect now)
improving continuos minig (4-6 by now)
trying to learn another kind of continuos minig...
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on March 29, 2008, 05:40:09 AM
i just learnt...
3D hover unwrap to legstall to shuffle 3333334233BUSH???
oh well.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on March 29, 2008, 09:52:26 AM
I can't seem to break the 5 ball barrier. It's just not happening. I think I can get 5 catches :(.

I just learnt another double triangle, but I still can't remember the double ended one I worked out a month or so ago.

Beni
(grrrrrrrrr...)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: sasha on March 29, 2008, 02:28:39 PM
I just got my whips solid! did 4 whips in a row, and i get about 90% right now!! ^^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Null on March 29, 2008, 05:44:02 PM
i just learnt...
(i dont know what the name is so ill just describe)
put left side of your string around neck and hold both sticks out infront of you and hop the diabolo from string to string
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on March 29, 2008, 09:03:55 PM
i just learnt...
(i dont know what the name is so ill just describe)
put left side of your string around neck and hold both sticks out infront of you and hop the diabolo from string to string
Neck Trampoline
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Null on March 30, 2008, 02:07:23 AM
ty i knew it was neck summat so yeah i just learnt neck trampoline :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on March 31, 2008, 09:44:52 PM
I finally got 3 mini columns w/ a qualify FINALLY!

SO FREAKING HAPPY!
Josh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 01, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
I finally got 3 mini columns w/ a qualify FINALLY!
A qualify after or a qualify in catches of columns?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on April 01, 2008, 02:02:38 PM
Beginner's luck, 3d sun pirouette
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on April 01, 2008, 07:35:58 PM
A qualify after or a qualify in catches of columns?

Pet peeve.
diabolotricks fall under
Somehow this happened and I dont know why
I nearly did it
I fluked it
I've done it but couldn't continue
I've done it
I 'can' do it
I can do it!
I've got that nailed
I don't really have to think about it anymore

and just to get OT
2d Mini-c - stick antisuicide direct to mini-c, first time, nailed, diabolos not leaving the string, bit of tweakage thrown in :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: traPACK on April 01, 2008, 07:39:26 PM
1d- my first two body combos,whip double duicide
2d-suns to armsall, throw one quite higher and 1d suns under it
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 01, 2008, 08:30:54 PM
Beginner's luck, 3d sun pirouette
Wow nice
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on April 01, 2008, 09:54:09 PM
2d vertax sprinkler

(happy april fools)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on April 01, 2008, 10:07:15 PM
That was funny. Good one Beni, that won't be forgotten! Ever!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on April 01, 2008, 10:10:21 PM
Yes well I'm tired and not up for an elaborate joke and haven't actually learnt anything for ages.
Maybe it'll make diabolobro's heart skip a beat. haha.

Beni :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on April 01, 2008, 10:27:33 PM
double handstick tricks. 

not long now nick ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on April 01, 2008, 10:51:20 PM
I got a nice triple vertax genocide to 2x continuous genocide to infinite suicide(x3) combo.
Maybe I'll try and pull it off at my talent show audition tomorrow, probably wont need it though.
Btw, can anyone beat my 8x continuous triples? (I normally can only do 2 or 3, but a few weeks ago at the juggling club i was super solid and practically was never missing so i had that run there.)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 01, 2008, 11:02:40 PM
almost getting the
'realy continuous minig' (i don't now the correct name it's a wrapped minig 'infinite')

and the best trick never seen before!!!

grind in the street electric wire!!!!!
hhahahahahhha..
it was very funny...

..

ps: no damage has been caused.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 01, 2008, 11:23:48 PM
6 catches of minicolumns, unclean trick, but got a shuffle after :-\
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on April 02, 2008, 10:50:06 AM
that infinite C-Fans may be possible after all (cheers Spink) now just to refine that hand motion - it may take some time.

Oh and pulled several 3600fans (10x360) at BJC from a throw start (yes with fixed axles)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: sasha on April 02, 2008, 02:05:21 PM
Instant slack cradle!
:O
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on April 02, 2008, 03:07:15 PM
I got a nice triple vertax genocide to 2x continuous genocide to infinite suicide(x3) combo.
Maybe I'll try and pull it off at my talent show audition tomorrow, probably wont need it though.
Btw, can anyone beat my 8x continuous triples? (I normally can only do 2 or 3, but a few weeks ago at the juggling club i was super solid and practically was never missing so i had that run there.)
Bearing or fixed ?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on April 02, 2008, 10:21:40 PM
Bearing of course, I can barely even land a triple with fixed.


- Also had my talent show audition which i completely bombed.
I wish i didn't get so crappy under pressure, i didn't even land a vertax genocide(It was inside so it was kinda hard to be careful and catch it too) forgot to throw in infinite suicides, messed up a lot, and took up too much time so i didn't even get to show them 2d.
Hopefully I'll still make it, considering I'm like the only juggler at the school.
It was really funny, the movie for the talent show showed a bunch of jugglers, yet I'm like the only one at school, so I sure hope i made it.
Results will be announced the monday after next.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on April 02, 2008, 10:28:47 PM
6 bounces of 3 mini columns w/ qualify after

Josh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 02, 2008, 11:30:22 PM
42*42*42*42*42*42*42*42*42*, drop...*beep*
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 02, 2008, 11:40:40 PM
loop acel.(I don't know why so late..)
a kind of body combo..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on April 03, 2008, 09:18:18 AM
Bearing of course, I can barely even land a triple with fixed.

Haha - then I'm pretty sure Crackers can beat your 8x
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on April 03, 2008, 12:52:25 PM
If a good soul can offer me a bearing diabolo I'll try  ;D
(yes I'm talking about you nev ^^)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on April 03, 2008, 01:00:43 PM
Its not all my form actually - my string just is usually grippy.
With new string i can probably land a couple with fixed.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 03, 2008, 07:01:24 PM
how many vertax genocide continuous is possible to do with a fixed???

..

I'm learning it but my stick grip is sliding..
I tried to glue it but I didn't have succes...
..

I'll buy new sticks this month.. (henry's alu.)

...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on April 03, 2008, 07:03:04 PM
how many vertax genocide continuous is possible to do with a fixed???
I've done 10 with a Circus last summer but apparently Garner has done much more at BJC
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on April 03, 2008, 10:41:13 PM
i think he got to 10 aswell
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 04, 2008, 01:09:11 AM
it's a lot....
how can you keep the velocity for this time??..
you spin up after the genocides or you have any other technique???

..thanks
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on April 04, 2008, 01:00:49 PM
I just learnt a trapdoor thing based on langerz's VOTW. It's an awesome theory.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on April 04, 2008, 01:10:18 PM
Some crappy diabolo stick/diabolo stalls


Also working on some random stuff with one poi + a juggling ball, hopefully more juggling balls soon.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on April 04, 2008, 02:26:35 PM
it's a lot....
how can you keep the velocity for this time??..
you spin up after the genocides or you have any other technique???

..thanks
No idea really ... I guess after you've done a trick so much it just doesn't loose as much spin
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on April 04, 2008, 03:57:39 PM
It's actually been sunny today so I've done about 2 hours practice :)

I also went through all the old videos on my hard disk this morning, the 'Leeds Lot' video caught my eye again as it was such an inspiration when I first started out diaboloing - Thanks sean_ (not late at all :P)

EDIT: Also, are Matt_H and MattF still around?

-Leo

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: DaviD Brackpool on April 04, 2008, 07:43:36 PM
matt hall still around he was at the scottish this year.  8)

db
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on April 05, 2008, 12:18:48 PM
Oh no, it's a different Matt altogether (We really need completely different names for them.)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 05, 2008, 09:03:06 PM
42*42*42*42*42*42*42*42*42*42*42*42*

5511*

... :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on April 06, 2008, 03:20:18 PM
Now you should upgrade it to 5511[22][333] :).

I just learnt antishuffle backwraps, maybe if I put on new string I'll try for continuous antishuffle backwraps.
I think these'll be good if I ever perform, as they speed up the diabolos and look different from normal backwraps.

Beni
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 06, 2008, 06:00:14 PM
Now you should upgrade it to 5511[22][333] :).
Yeah, I tried, I got 5511*2*smash drop smash *sigh*
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on April 06, 2008, 06:45:31 PM
i've been playing with slacks in different ways, changing wraps in trapezes and sun twists. I think people at the bjc were playing with it so i've copied them and its an interesting thing:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on April 06, 2008, 09:02:00 PM
I got another thing that is sort of based on trapdoor theory, only it doesn't actually involve the diabolo being re-inserted into the trapdoor, or if it does it all happens in the same motion. It's bizarre since I somehow manage to get a LHBW GT thing from a left hand trapeze motion.
Also, I got sun-minicolumns-sun YES!!  ::) I'm so skilled at diabolo... *sigh*. <-- [that is not a siteswap, but if it was, it would be the best siteswap in the world*.]

Beni

* A throw height with 's' value? :o
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on April 06, 2008, 09:42:10 PM
When does something become a theory? -it's just a trick right?

BTW: Has this become an astrophysics forum with all these 'theories', 'concepts' and other crap some people bang on about?

-Leo (sick of reading complete piss-wallop)

...........
theories ask questions and seek proofs
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on April 06, 2008, 11:38:55 PM
Vouch leo



I just put bearing on other diabolo, so working on 2 more. 

so i learnt..

Ping pong - String orbiting every diabolo that comes on right side - Nothing crazy, just feels like a weird timing imo

Sprinkler - Explosion - Finger grind - Anti sprinkler - But sketchy =[


And some more poi ofc
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yitavd on April 07, 2008, 03:04:17 PM
30 stable 3 diabolo otts.
also learnt integral suicide to mini genocide.
some cool 1D combos and thats it.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on April 07, 2008, 03:49:14 PM
Finally got solid mini-columns, mini-columns to sun, mini-columns to vortex, and a shaky mini-columns to fts.

- Also now have -
2D Mini-columns high down(Sometimes i can work in suns under it too), 2 high down, Double sun, and a shaky triple sun and a shaky c-fan.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Beni on April 07, 2008, 09:34:50 PM
Concept/theory means there's a lot more of it then one or two tricks.
For example, integral suicides are a group of tricks. But trapdoor theory, which is like holding a loop which will give the diabolo a certain knot (or take off a knot) or creating a knot by putting the diabolo through a stick loop is a concept because 1) it's not fully explored and defined 2) it's a different way of looking at the construction/deconstruction of knots which has many permutations etc. Sure you can name anything cool you discover which involves a technique not used or not used to full potential a trick and leave it at that, or you can think of it as a concept, explore it and see what else is possible. I just find dismissing really interesting techniques as single tricks is a bit of a narrow way of looking at it.
But hey, everyone has the right to think of tricks and the discovery of new tricks how they want. Donald Grant I believe mostly just makes up singular tricks, and I have a lot of respect for him.
Also, trapdoor naming is langerz's call I guess, although I'll always consider it a concept.

Beni

(Hey check out this trick it's called a 3rd base!)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: marcdblo on April 07, 2008, 10:48:44 PM
2D shuffle  ;D well chuffed, been at it constant for about a week and it clicked today,not much for most of you but am a happy chappy.
Still workin on the corrections though as not perfect.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 07, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
fake minigen integral to slowicide minigen!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on April 07, 2008, 11:13:30 PM
thats a great entrance into info suicides
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 08, 2008, 12:57:55 AM
true, sad part is, i immediately forgot how to do the integral after i walked away.... i tried to do it again but it has ceased working. i wanna figure out how to do the infinite integral that pranay does in beat of the diabolo. i've worked out that it involves left handed inf suicides but other than that, no dice.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 08, 2008, 01:50:46 AM
fake minigen integral

how it works??

just learnt a little cradle/web things...
I'm without time.... tests week..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 08, 2008, 01:53:35 AM
the fake modifies the minigen not the integral. You enter it like a minigen, but you throw the diab onto the string in between your finger/hand and the non released stick and use the momentum of the minigen to do an integral in one smooth sexilicious motion
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on April 09, 2008, 09:51:56 AM
Left handed orbits of string around diabolo getting alot better, still can't do right hand/left hand both going together continuesly (Sp)

And Ping pong - String orbiting every diabolo that comes on right side getting alot more solid - about 10 rounds today

aka

Cr H A Hr Cr H A Hr Cr


Poi: Hyperloop 360's or whatever people call them.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: James C B on April 09, 2008, 06:33:14 PM
getting my technique for j-whips, starting to do them more consistantly, then i can start on c whips hehe
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Athena on April 09, 2008, 07:27:15 PM
2 days ago, I learnt Duicide, Genocide and Inifinite Suicide. I can only do Duicide properly, but practise makes perfect. ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: traPACK on April 09, 2008, 08:16:29 PM
 ;D 2d:ping pong and a few turns of antishuffling ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on April 10, 2008, 12:49:04 PM
i think sprinkler into anti sprinkler. twice out of many times.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on April 10, 2008, 06:24:44 PM
But trapdoor theory, which is like holding a loop which will give the diabolo a certain knot (or take off a knot) or creating a knot by putting the diabolo through a stick loop is a concept
I'm pretty sure that this is inncorrect (langerz will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong) trap door theory is all about opening strings that are close together or otherwise unable to land the diabolo singley opening up new strings and therefore more knots... could be totally wrong tho.
would be good to have a full explanation.

the mofro
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: James C B on April 10, 2008, 07:10:10 PM
about 95% of time can nail J and C whips  ;D and excaliburing is getting alot better! and also thought of (i hope) a rather cool diabolo yoyo start  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on April 11, 2008, 12:31:44 AM
Concept/theory means there's a lot more of it then one or two tricks.
For example, integral suicides are a group of tricks. But trapdoor theory, which is like holding a loop which will give the diabolo a certain knot (or take off a knot) or creating a knot by putting the diabolo through a stick loop is a concept because 1) it's not fully explored and defined 2) it's a different way of looking at the construction/deconstruction of knots which has many permutations etc. Sure you can name anything cool you discover which involves a technique not used or not used to full potential a trick and leave it at that, or you can think of it as a concept, explore it and see what else is possible. I just find dismissing really interesting techniques as single tricks is a bit of a narrow way of looking at it.
But hey, everyone has the right to think of tricks and the discovery of new tricks how they want. Donald Grant I believe mostly just makes up singular tricks, and I have a lot of respect for him.
Also, trapdoor naming is langerz's call I guess, although I'll always consider it a concept.

Beni

(Hey check out this trick it's called a 3rd base!)

right, i hoped i wouldn't have to justify naming a trick ever. however the trick is a variation of the yoyo trick trap door hense trap door (nick help me, edit - much appreiciated, look below). i think thats a fair enough explanation.

@ beni, EVERYONE THINKS YOUR TALKING S**T,

if i was asked nicely about what i thought about my own trick, i would give a decent answer. but jumping to conclusions about theorys and concepts is ridiculous. i am however going to point out that josh (mofro) knows alot about this and is polite enough to stand in my defense,

lz

oh i learnt......... FTET and FTET2

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on April 11, 2008, 07:55:58 AM
oh i learnt......... FTET and FTET2
how about you show us what it is ???
I started working on 3D tricks...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Nick on April 11, 2008, 08:17:45 AM
"Trap Door" is a yo-yo trick created by the one-and-only Doctor Popular. You can see it in this video, TheGlassLab Experiment 04 (http://www.yoyoing.com/videos/play.php?vid=1644), at 3:50. You may also spot some solid loop diabolo in amongst all that yo-yoing if you keep your eyes peeled.
Langley's diabolo version is slightly different as the diabolo picks up a string as it goes through the "trap door", but both are equally awesome.
Nick.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Mark BMC on April 11, 2008, 08:51:34 AM
FTET2

if thats what i think it is. 8)
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Post by: nev on April 11, 2008, 12:01:48 PM
Its probably not what you're thinking Mark - just a better variation on the original

And well said to Lz and Josh - If only people would ask before they jump in and type rubbish eh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on April 11, 2008, 12:34:12 PM
feed the extra terrestrial? wheres elliot when you need him
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 11, 2008, 10:34:35 PM
continuous wrapped minig (I mean really continuos with no stop of the stick.... in sequence)

I can do 3.... learnt today..
very cool trick..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on April 12, 2008, 02:28:21 PM
Over the past two weeks:

3D:

3d different sun styles. I can now tweak them with both sync (yabe-ish) and async style (William-ish). Better exit and better control too. Also better style.

Normal 42 into immediate sun (don´t know siteswap for that).

42* smoother and with better exit. Not good at them yet though.

Continous 42 smoother (same as above)

Better box and better exit for it.

Reverse shuffle (only 4 very shaky rounds so far from a boxentry and no exit so far)

Exit with two popped diabolos from handstall (harder than it sounds if you do sync)

A few tries with wrap-high522 back to shuffle. Not successfully pulled it yet but have been pretty close at times.

I need help with how to correct 3D from above if anyone know a good thread please? Is it possible to do in sync or do you need to shift to async?

2D:

Twohanded whip-pirouette

Twohanded whip-skip (Williams)

BTB shower

Minigenocide from fan (Makkys)

Genocide start from spinning 1D (pulled it once or twice only)

1D:

Continous shoulderwhips with pirouettes between (one handed setupthrows)

Sticktwirl combinations into BTB, crossed hands etc.

Better at ropeskipping (5 under a high throw, but I´m clumsy and not fast so it´s good for me)

New looptricks and better at them. Underwhips, double UW, "loose wraps" ??? etc.

Been few weeks of great progress, but have only had minor progress before so hoping I can keep it going for some time now.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on April 12, 2008, 04:09:22 PM
Quote
Twohanded whip-skip (Williams)

Ooh don't let Priam hear you say that.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on April 12, 2008, 08:20:24 PM
something abou 2D correction or wtf  :P

Btw is something to don't lose speed in excalibur genocides?
Cause I can't catch the diabolo 3 times,(continuous excalibur genocides)
I only catch it 2 times and the diabolo almost falls cause it don't have speed =/

sorry for the english,if you don't understand say something :-\
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on April 13, 2008, 01:37:23 AM
3d box for two rounds.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on April 13, 2008, 01:50:16 PM
something like
Excalibur genocides with phone screen break Exit

so..... the phone was in my pocket and the stick hit my pocket.....and do someting like this.

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/962/img0108kp9.th.jpg) (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0108kp9.jpg)

lol,sorry for the english
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 13, 2008, 03:12:07 PM
i just learned the basic 2d vortex
then vortex to sun
then vortex to double sun
then vortex to sun to left trapeze stall
you get the idea
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 13, 2008, 04:09:35 PM
I have this phone too Scarp...
but I broke the visor (?) two times..
it's very fragile..
..  :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 14, 2008, 02:19:51 AM
just one new kind of minig's
..
improving finger grinds (finally get my extended axle)

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on April 14, 2008, 08:28:38 AM
some stuff. :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on April 14, 2008, 12:37:01 PM
some stuff. :)

Very informative.  :D

Some more 2d string control stuff - Minor stuff

and going to start working on some fans, have a couple ideas but :donno: if they'll work.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on April 14, 2008, 01:17:40 PM
It took me suprisingly short to get a hold of mini-colums.

I thought they would be really hard to learn but luckily enough I got the feeling within 2 days :-D

Sexy trick.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on April 14, 2008, 08:56:06 PM
My first 2d trick woot!

2d crossed stick sun  8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 14, 2008, 09:26:44 PM
1d: finger grind

2d: a lot of things:

improving traditional sprinkler
"front right" wrap sprinkler
suns
trying to learn a new transfer
working on 2d high (3333.. yet --> I guess)

..thats it...

I'm tired..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Adamer15 on April 14, 2008, 11:50:01 PM
Excalibur/Vertax stop over
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 14, 2008, 11:59:34 PM
2d fts from wrap start!
what else....
a bunch of vortex transitions
grind entry to antishuffle
left trapeze entry to antishuffle
continuous whip acceleration
whip acceleration antishuffle exit
right stick stall entry to antishuffle

i heart antishuffles, can you tell?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 15, 2008, 02:02:54 AM
I forgot this:

2d quick launch

and some slackwips with 1d.... (starting to understand it)
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 15, 2008, 11:53:35 PM
1d:
J-whip
J-whip instant cradle (I don't know the name...)
3 kinds of eiffel tower

2d:

improving chinese acelleration
sticktrap (left and right)

no success with fans yet...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on April 16, 2008, 10:08:46 PM
-web trash
-effeil tower(i learn it about 3 days ago or something like that)
-and i practise excalibur continuos genocides
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 17, 2008, 02:38:41 AM
i just learned the 2d start that sean does in the 3rd base video ("short and long" i believe)
the "unwrapped 2d dead start". is there a better name for it?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: karatepekka on April 17, 2008, 03:27:12 PM
 ;D ;D ;D 3D 10 OTTS  ;D ;D ;D

And the shuffle actually looked like a shuffle for awhile and not just 3 diabolos flying everywhere.


edit: LOL it was pure luck. I can barely get 5-6 otts now...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 18, 2008, 12:12:08 AM
-left hand j-whip
- cradle whip (?) - J-whip moviment but results on formed cradle
- 2 new kinds of eiffel tower
- a new kind of whip catch
- improving false whip catches...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Adamer15 on April 18, 2008, 08:57:29 PM
Disc chop (My trick)
a Infinite suicide variation
Mini gen to Infinite suicide to genocide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on April 18, 2008, 10:29:52 PM
something like a super trash web.
a web trash with more one warp on the string,but need to train it better
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: redchina on April 19, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
2D Figure 8 sun. Really impressive trick; took forever to learn
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Adamer15 on April 19, 2008, 11:08:15 PM
J-whip (Underwhip) front cup
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Post by: DaviD Brackpool on April 20, 2008, 07:38:38 PM
exchaliber genocides

vertax moririn


http://www.youtube.com/v/h2PDa1P79xs&hl=en"
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on April 20, 2008, 08:15:53 PM
An underwhip integral.  It's not a bad trick at all if I say so myself. I reckon Nick can show me some stuff with the entry I've figured out as well. Roll on May 3rd.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 20, 2008, 09:52:06 PM
Some cool new variations on 3d box, and working on cleaner columns
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Martin_ on April 20, 2008, 10:00:15 PM
tye my shoelaces!! (I was proud)

oh and antisuicides.. But more importantly my laces no longer trail dangerously!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: spinnin pig on April 21, 2008, 08:37:08 AM
sprinkler suicide
but sometimes i have problems getting into the sprinkler hyperloop whatever ya wanna call it
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Adamer15 on April 21, 2008, 09:33:45 PM
Trash's web
Star cradle
MiniG to integral
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on April 21, 2008, 11:23:10 PM
Some random 2d knot/trapeze combos - Still working on ofc

More sprinkler know/stall suicide things...etc


Trashs web is fairly solid now :D Time to learn left handed =[
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 21, 2008, 11:27:38 PM
2d fts! this time true fts. last time, it was just a trick to sun.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on April 22, 2008, 04:14:05 AM
What exactly qualifys a fts? A 1 diabolo popped up, then a sun underneath into a catch of the other into another sun? Or a direct catch into sun?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 22, 2008, 04:17:03 AM
i've always imagined its a popped up diab, sun underneath then catch. the following sun, i guess, is totally optional. You're actually feeding a sun this way. the consider the following sun to be the feeding sun would be innacurate to an extent i suppose
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on April 23, 2008, 01:31:31 AM
a kind of integral minig and a lot of variations of eiffel tower...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Conor on April 23, 2008, 01:54:29 AM
6 or 7 catches of 2 high, i lost count. need to practice my counting as much as my diabolo, this is what happens when u stop doing maths at school.

and some pretty knots.

now 12 catches, and looking cleaner
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: redchina on April 23, 2008, 09:28:51 PM
Behind the back whip catch. Still needs some practice, but it's something I thought was nearly impossible.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on April 25, 2008, 04:47:04 AM
Some stupid stuff..

Played around with some 2d knots I made a while ago

1d around the leg slack whip into cross armed around the leg


also 4 contact rubber practice balls in one hand is getting ok, they're fun to juggle and makes me think about switching to russians :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 25, 2008, 11:59:43 AM
interesting variation on a four ball shower with the left hnad and my four ball hi-low shower is getting there.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on April 25, 2008, 12:34:54 PM
got 2d continuous feed and regurgitate the suns almost down woo:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on April 25, 2008, 01:17:42 PM
Quote
got 2d continuous feed and regurgitate the suns almost down woo:)

Sounds pretty interesting. What tricks are these?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on April 25, 2008, 02:16:30 PM
random stuff learnt with diaboloing, i tried a triple vertex genocide for the first time, and landed it on my second try. balancing it out with juggling, new record with 4 ball shower, as with 5 ball shower, working on cascade with 5, and a 2 up 360 with 3 clubs.
that is all
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on April 25, 2008, 04:48:09 PM
duicide-integral-inverted finger cradle thing.

thats all at once by the way:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on April 25, 2008, 08:38:16 PM
Sounds pretty interesting. What tricks are these?

fts and unfeed the sun continuously doesnt sound as interesting now:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Conor on April 26, 2008, 11:10:34 AM
39 catches of 2 high

2d vortex suicide, and manages an anti suicide a few times, not clean yet.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 28, 2008, 02:40:29 AM
7531....with 4 balls don't worry
7441....or I think thats it

EDIT: 3 ball Arches
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 29, 2008, 01:15:55 AM
i just created/learned my own very nifty little right hand genocide to infinite suicide bit. it involves a dominant hand genocide to what is essentially a faked integral
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on April 29, 2008, 12:02:08 PM
found a nice entry to fan...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pranay on April 29, 2008, 06:17:45 PM
I got one handed slowycides 5 times in a row sometimes today :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on April 29, 2008, 07:33:43 PM
Pranay that sounds like a fun trick to do, I'll have to try it sometime :)

I actually learnt a few significant things this afternoon for the first time in ages. I've found out that with bearings you can do reverse transfers because of the lack or friction. The diabolos don't climb the string at all, so you can move them whatever way you want. -It's hard to explain with words but I think it's pretty cool.

-Leo
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: tommi on April 29, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
I've found out that with bearings you can do reverse transfers because of the lack or friction.

If I know what you are talking about, I've been doing those for ages with fixed axles ;). It's nice anyways, just to change between giving and taking transfers.

Hmm, I think I learnt something new with transfers with one and two today, or least at got some ideas to work with. Breaking stuff to simple parts works just wonders for creativity..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on April 29, 2008, 09:21:37 PM
We'll see, I failed to mention a few minor details ;) Hopefully I'll get a few more combos with them soon. I have a cool one with a knot on both axels which knots and unknots continuously.


Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on April 29, 2008, 09:55:57 PM
Lol - I have definitely been doing those for ages (both with bearings and fixed slippy string).

And there are many combo's to find with bearings  ;)

I often use transfers to escape from experiments gone wrong knots
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on April 29, 2008, 10:10:01 PM
i finally found a proper name for the trick that i last posted about.
it's a feed the infinite suicide. oh yeah. nice huh.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on April 29, 2008, 10:12:56 PM
i learnt how to go into a sprinkler from internal transfers. i have been able to do it for ages but now i know HOW i did it  :)

just pulled off an antisuicide with an under the leg catch...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on April 29, 2008, 10:47:33 PM
just pulled off an antisuicide with an under the leg catch...

this is just getting silly now ben... ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on April 30, 2008, 12:44:56 AM
just pulled off an antisuicide with an under the leg catch...
this is just getting silly now ben... ;)
This way ( 'Aunties Leg') or another way.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cSninY7W1PA


On the Antisuicide front I finally buckled and worked on the non stick version... I feel so dirty :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on April 30, 2008, 02:07:43 AM
I did that earlier today after ben's post, but went imidiately into orbit. Also invented a new 2d mini-column around the leg trick.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on April 30, 2008, 02:33:35 AM
oh diabolo bro you gave me an idea.  you could be do mini columns under a leg and lift that leg and bring it around the two mini columns like a figure 8.  it'd be sick.  I'd try it but im in crutches...

Josh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on April 30, 2008, 03:17:50 AM
Some more double handstick tricks for you lucky brummy lot, if you aren't there you won't see it for a looong time ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on April 30, 2008, 07:47:44 AM
i had a suspicion that it had already been done before but oh well, i can do that. thanks sean, but i have to say mine was better, it was a fluke but i did frontwrap antisuicide and vortexed under the leg and then went into orbits.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on April 30, 2008, 01:30:01 PM
i've just learnt that customizing diabolos is brilliant:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Darragh on April 30, 2008, 01:55:26 PM
just got double sprinkler suicide exit with a pirouette,
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on April 30, 2008, 08:25:46 PM
Anti duicides. real fake mini gens. 3 rounds of synch mini collumns
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: J_J777 on May 01, 2008, 02:30:54 AM
Matt aren't anti duicides just duicides?  how can you have real fake mini genocides?  That's like saying there are good carbon fibre sticks (BURN!). 

haha...  6 mini column bounces into 3 diabolo sun.

Josh
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 01, 2008, 02:50:11 AM
an anti-duicide usually ends in some kind of backside, i believe. It's an interesting way to enter into a minigen.

speaking of which, i just learned to do just that. With Henry Alus. ahahaha!

but seriously, i'm willing to try carbons, i'm just poor.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 01, 2008, 06:40:05 AM
Sprinkler explosion while pirouetting out. Sometimes hits you on the head/face.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: karatepekka on May 01, 2008, 07:22:04 AM
Stupid question: What is anti-duicide?? Anyone has it on video? ??? ???
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 01, 2008, 01:44:49 PM
antiduicide being taken from antisuicide therefore 2d. real fake minigens are very real and very smooth. i dont use carbons, i use xtreemes.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on May 01, 2008, 01:48:49 PM
Stupid question: What is anti-duicide?? Anyone has it on video? ??? ???

I think there is a Votw somewhere with an anti-duicide, I can't find it though, sorry.

EDIT: Nevermind, here it is: [youtube=425,350]D2x0-KQ_7UA
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 01, 2008, 02:27:37 PM
Thats not what im doing, and i think thats just a suicide?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 02, 2008, 02:16:00 AM
3d suns have a nice feel now.
Random feed the suns combos more solid than a frozen stone.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 02, 2008, 04:52:46 AM
some body things...
tomicide to minig
learning new minig's and integral things...
.. thats it..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JimmyCords. on May 02, 2008, 11:43:02 AM
Japanese whip, yehaaw!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Adamer15 on May 02, 2008, 08:51:55 PM
Over arm/Behind the back combos
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 02, 2008, 09:44:14 PM
TALENT SHOW'S FINALLY OVER!
Even though i dropped it like 20 times i still got like the 2nd most applause of anyone, and even if i caught everything i doubt i would have gotten as much applause as the best group(They were hilarious)
My light kits kept going out during the in the dark section...So ANNOYING!
Also learned a crazy integral to inverse mini-geno, and a crazy integral/sun/suicide thing.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 02, 2008, 10:10:29 PM
minig to inverse tomicide
and more body combos

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 02, 2008, 10:56:39 PM
j-whip to j-whip release to j-whip backwards rewhip (ends in a left backwrap)
also
j-whip to j-whip release to j-whip back cup rewhip (ends in unhooked "loop and hook")
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 04, 2008, 02:10:12 AM
I know double post, but this happened in a different setting.

Integrals! My first!
fake minigen entry to integral to minigen exit
swinging sun entry to intergral to minigen exit

YAH BABY!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on May 04, 2008, 04:29:01 AM
C FAN AND LIVED TO TELL THE TALE!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 04, 2008, 05:19:41 AM
A nameless fan.
And the Qfan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 04, 2008, 01:02:59 PM
fake minigen integral duicide integral duicide integral duicide integral duicide minigen.


fake minigen entry to integral to minigen exit


nice, so many possibilities with it.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on May 04, 2008, 02:16:30 PM
multiple eifels towers (TRUE(if i even know what that is))
one of which is a string sucide to eifel....... NICE

the mof
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 04, 2008, 02:52:43 PM
A nameless fan.
How can it be nameless if you just named it nameless ;)

I got a fts 123 with a drop imidiately after the 3rd sun a few times, also got a 52*2* with a drop after. *sigh*

5 ball reverse cascade for 10 catches, and the same for half-shower
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 04, 2008, 03:22:27 PM
multiple eifels towers (TRUE(if i even know what that is))
one of which is a string sucide to eifel....... NICE

the mof

I thought Eric was the mof....
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on May 04, 2008, 03:28:37 PM
A slowcide minigen 1d handstart (-ish, bad at tricknaming). I think it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 04, 2008, 03:32:19 PM
fake minigen entry to integral to minigen exit
swinging sun entry to intergral to minigen exit

how it works???

-- learning C-whip
J-whip nearcup
and now I have a good instant whip cradle (????)

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Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 04, 2008, 04:05:00 PM
another 7 ball flash woo

Edit: clean async 6 ball qualify and almost 14 catches
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on May 04, 2008, 04:45:53 PM
It's great that you're doing well with balls, Al, but let's try to keep this primarily diabolo related. Free free to tack on juggling progresses with your learned diabolo stuff, but not on their own.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 04, 2008, 05:00:06 PM
okey dokey. here's a vid of the integrals that i was talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBp8LDTPjDI
you haven't lived until you've seen integrals done to "the final countdown"
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 04, 2008, 05:15:16 PM
oh, so we are taking about diferent things heh.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on May 04, 2008, 08:09:34 PM
I thought Eric was the mof....


never i was here first

the fro
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 05, 2008, 12:01:07 AM
2d vortex to stall to "Anti-Vortex" magic knot thing.
Also 2d behind the back magic knot with one on the string.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt D on May 05, 2008, 12:28:01 AM
UFO grind to genocide, and some more 2d mini-g versions. Some more slack whip stuff, finally starting to feel like I can control my 3d. Then getting a bunch of 4 and 5 ball siteswaps, and some 5 ball bounce siteswaps. Starting to get better at rings too, but they are still my least favorite prop.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 05, 2008, 02:05:18 AM
thanks for the video...

-- improving old tricks..
learning simple slackwhips..

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Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 05, 2008, 09:15:46 AM
How can it be nameless if you just named it nameless ;)
Its been named ;) Sort of..
A 'magical transition' from something into something else.
And something else you might see.
I'll say it one more time - Something.
Now I'm off to find something else to do,
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JimmyCords. on May 05, 2008, 09:41:20 AM
Received 2nd Diabolo today. Can keep the shuffle going for round 10 throws before it fails. Also can do a few turns in vertax before the diabolo either comes off the string norrowly missing my head or i hit it with my hand :ouch:.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on May 05, 2008, 06:53:24 PM
on monday i went to a field in my town with garner and him being anoying he did
32 vertax genocides in a row :o at first it was cool but after a wile it got boring

mod edit - Sean - I merged this here. Don't think it needed its own thread.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on May 05, 2008, 09:03:02 PM
Bearings.. it happens to all of us.
my new tricks are secret.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on May 06, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
garner did 32 vertax genocides in a row

garner sucks. where was the 33rd?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 06, 2008, 06:56:28 PM
C-whip (I can do it easily now)
a kind of integral thing

just it for now..

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Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 08, 2008, 12:14:49 AM
Fan perpetual motion. Cool trick, very tiring.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on May 08, 2008, 01:38:55 AM
to start 2d from a double dead start, without the use of the floor, my hands, wraps of any kind or the handsticks.  When I say without the use of the floor, they are started not touching the ground or resting on any other flat surface 8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 08, 2008, 05:36:56 AM
Thats gnarly Looby.
3 catches of 3d minicolumns plus exit. I think.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on May 08, 2008, 07:45:07 AM
3d around the leg...
...with both feet down...
...and a ricochet and continue for a qualify, then a stupid drop.


Oh and since starting to practice juggling for realsies, my ball and club tricks are improving at an exciting rate! almost got (6)864864(6), got a clean 5 ball 5 up, and 3 club backcross singles are finally feeling solidish.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 08, 2008, 01:12:17 PM
...and a ricochet and continue for a qualify, then a stupid drop.
Is that a bounce around th leg trick, or did they collide and you continued? ???
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Shaun on May 08, 2008, 01:31:43 PM
3d around the leg...
...with both feet down...
...and a ricochet and continue for a qualify, then a stupid drop.
tip top effort. Are you Nate or Jacob? 'Sharpes' is the collective of you two, so I never know who's posting.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on May 08, 2008, 08:20:50 PM
Anti-slowicide..

Which leaded me to a slap slowicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on May 08, 2008, 08:26:39 PM
I, Jacob, posted.

and there was no collision, it was while doing 3 around the leg, as one came down, I bounced it across to the left over my leg, but under the other two diabolos, then bounced it back a little higher to re-enter the pattern
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on May 08, 2008, 10:53:41 PM
it was while doing 3 around the leg, as one came down, I bounced it across to the left over my leg, but under the other two diabolos, then bounced it back a little higher to re-enter the pattern
Nice!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 09, 2008, 12:52:59 PM
it was while doing 3 around the leg, as one came down, I bounced it across to the left over my leg, but under the other two diabolos, then bounced it back a little higher to re-enter the pattern
Now that is cool, I have to try that one.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: lupii on May 09, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
well, I've got the vertax whip catch to genocide solid now  :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 09, 2008, 06:24:39 PM
I have to try that one.

We know. 8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 10, 2008, 01:21:36 AM
I just learnt that Xtremes > Carbons
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 10, 2008, 02:04:42 AM
I just learnt that Xtremes > Carbons
I boke mine :'(<those dry on their own though pranay told me so ;)

I just learnt that avatars are over-rated
We know. 8)
:D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on May 10, 2008, 02:24:06 AM
Right arm stalls
Elbow stalls (On side and eh back/top)
Head stalls a little - but hurts

Left hand is slowly catching up.


Posting is over rated.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 10, 2008, 03:08:00 AM
So is reading your messages.
Check your phone.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 10, 2008, 11:13:48 AM
I just learnt that Xtremes > Carbons

finally.

now for the move back to finesse.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 10, 2008, 11:31:48 AM
Still use them. If you buy me some and ship them to my address. I'll switch for good. ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 10, 2008, 11:34:39 AM
hahaha i have loads of spares actually... oh i just learnt how to pop a diabolo off the floor, and a 2d version. some duicide genocide stuff, not a lot.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 10, 2008, 11:06:43 PM
9 bounces 3d minicolumns, and relatively mini minicolumns(below head hight)

Also almost did a toss 540kick, catch
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 11, 2008, 02:09:24 AM
left trapeze with 2 diabolo..

..trying to learn fun.....
....
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 11, 2008, 09:47:25 PM
vertax genocides
then vertax double genocides (very flukey)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 11, 2008, 09:54:31 PM
2d:
right open suns
different armstall exit (wrap thing)
learning others tranfers...
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 12, 2008, 04:06:20 AM
2d:
right open suns
different armstall exit (wrap thing)
learning others tranfers...
..

Do you mean left open suns?
It took me a long time to learn 2d right suns because they go against the shuffle, and it was long after learning left...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 12, 2008, 09:32:59 AM
Do you mean left open suns?
It took me a long time to learn 2d right suns because they go against the shuffle, and it was long after learning left...

left handed?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 12, 2008, 01:00:12 PM
Well i guess he could be, but usually i assume most people are right handed...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: barnesy on May 12, 2008, 07:55:12 PM
Left stick grind out of and back into (right handed) 3.  I should probably have tried it earlier I guess!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 12, 2008, 11:11:17 PM
Crazy Mini-Columns manipulation, Crossovers, Richocets, And orbits all in between  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on May 13, 2008, 09:33:10 AM
2d grinds... and they rock my world.

also 2 high is great in nice weather:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Mark BMC on May 13, 2008, 10:29:05 AM
2d grinds... and they rock my world.

also 2 high is great in nice weather:)

ditto
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 13, 2008, 12:58:50 PM
2D Trapeze...With both diabolos in trapezes on the same side, One trapeze laying on top of the other trapeze  :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on May 13, 2008, 02:15:52 PM
Yukki's contact vertax entrance and exit, with all the spinnyness inbetween
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 13, 2008, 06:40:15 PM
sorry....I learnt left open suns but in the right side of the body...

I guess it's it..

..

(I'm right handed..)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 13, 2008, 10:27:09 PM
2D Chinese suicide from 2D trapeze!  :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 13, 2008, 11:37:24 PM
2D Chinese suicide from 2D trapeze!  :D
I've been doing that for a year, you can just to a plain left trapeze with both, or you do a trapeze with one, then swing the second around, onto, the string, it only looks cool if you do it fast. ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: seán_ on May 13, 2008, 11:49:13 PM
With 2 in the loop that would be a shuffle over.
from a single trapeze you can also do a 'screw' a rarely seen oldschool move that looks really sweet.
http://www.diarhythm.com/e/trick2/index.htm
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 14, 2008, 01:01:47 AM
2d- armstall to vortex

still trying to learn fun...

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Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 14, 2008, 02:01:08 AM
I've been doing that for a year, you can just to a plain left trapeze with both, or you do a trapeze with one, then swing the second around, onto, the string, it only looks cool if you do it fast. ;)

I don't think we are thinking of the same trick. Mine is more like a 3 sticked trapeze, Using the hand as a second stick, and both are swung over at the same moment.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on May 14, 2008, 02:26:15 AM
With 2 in the loop that would be a shuffle over.
from a single trapeze you can also do a 'screw' a rarely seen oldschool move that looks really sweet.
http://www.diarhythm.com/e/trick2/index.htm

Wow, I completely forgot about diarhytmn, it was the first site I remember seeing real footage on apart from diabolotricks.com.  I remember seeing the triple sprinkler suicide and thinking how insanely good he must have been to nail it. 

How times change
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 14, 2008, 04:16:57 AM
i just learned (or created, depending on how you think about it) my first ever body sequence

its just a bunch of neck mounted fritz releases
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on May 14, 2008, 03:56:30 PM
i learnt to 2d antisuicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pranay on May 14, 2008, 05:13:48 PM
I just learned 3d unfeed the suicides...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 14, 2008, 11:41:13 PM
vertax genocide now very consistent
and i learned a new technique for doubles and triples- don't throw it sideways, throw it up! (langholz style)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 15, 2008, 01:02:11 AM
With 2 in the loop that would be a shuffle over.
from a single trapeze you can also do a 'screw' a rarely seen oldschool move that looks really sweet.
I put a screw in my september video, wiked awesome trick, doubles are really hard.
I don't think we are thinking of the same trick. Mine is more like a 3 sticked trapeze, Using the hand as a second stick, and both are swung over at the same moment.
Oh okay I see what you're saying, sounds sick :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 15, 2008, 02:01:52 AM
learning contnuous wrap accel. with 2d
and almost getting s-fan..

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Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 16, 2008, 12:22:49 AM
2d sun to wrist stall
left wrap to wrist stall
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on May 16, 2008, 04:58:43 PM
I just learned to do Infnite suicide to genocide to wrapped mini gen exit!

Its awesome! Onley problems sometimes are to catching to stick after the genocide.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 17, 2008, 01:48:05 AM
left-right alternating FTS
great entry for sun to stall or AC (i think) fan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 17, 2008, 03:11:31 AM
3d Hover start fairly clean.
Working on getting it from shuffle.
So hot right now. :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on May 17, 2008, 01:17:19 PM
3d Hover start fairly clean.
Working on getting it from shuffle.
So hot right now. :)

After how long of diaboloing did you started to learn 3d? Just wondering  :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 18, 2008, 07:17:24 AM
I started really to get into diabolo about 3 years ago.
I learnt 3d in around January this year. So whatever the math is..
So a little less than 3 years?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on May 18, 2008, 01:30:11 PM
Finally learned how to pass 3d with someone. Who knew it felt so simple?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on May 19, 2008, 06:18:28 PM
I wanna pass the 3D shuffle with my friend (simply give him the sticks, so he'll continue shuffling), but thats sooooo hard  :'(..
I have so many new tricks that i can't even count em.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 20, 2008, 03:02:20 AM
double, triple, quadruple vortex consistent
quintuples and sextuples are flukey
learned left wrap>stall> vortex exit and left sun>stall>vortex exit
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 20, 2008, 03:07:30 AM
double, triple, quadruple vortex consistent
quintuples and sextuples are flukey
bearings, new string?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 20, 2008, 03:37:02 AM
bearings, new string?

I can do them with pretty old string and finesses...just have to have the right control..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 20, 2008, 05:11:21 AM
oh i see what you're getting at
i meant in a row...
i'm not some kind of miracle worker.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 20, 2008, 10:18:39 AM
i'm not some kind of miracle worker.

I am.

One handed fan.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on May 20, 2008, 11:01:39 AM
I just learned the normal integral from a inverse trapeze! But.. When I go into a infinite suicide from there I don't get a right wrap but a way different wrap  ??? Anybody knows how to change that?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on May 20, 2008, 11:15:46 AM
i've found a great 2d string climb which might be sean_s, a different type of feed the sun and almost got a kind of 2d genocide.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on May 20, 2008, 12:21:11 PM
Some laaaaame contact stuff. And an even lamer fan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 20, 2008, 11:54:35 PM
Ha I just learned 3d beated suns on one attempt, and stall exit from 42 sun.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on May 21, 2008, 12:06:59 AM
I just learnt...someone else's 2d trick
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 21, 2008, 01:39:32 AM
I'm not training very much...
still trying to learn s-fan

learning 360 inf. suicide
and minigs things..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 21, 2008, 02:59:14 AM
Finally got my C-fan(A very sloppy) down  ;D! Also learned some sick exits to it and starting to get 360 fan.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on May 21, 2008, 05:25:45 AM
I'm addicted to contact diabolo. (http://forums.desolatecarnage.net/html/emoticons/euh.gif)

Some random more stalls, butterfly right hand ETC.

My left hand/side is lacking alot =/
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on May 21, 2008, 11:04:10 PM
i just learnt to... mince round while doing a kind of umbrella wrap unwrap thingy. its great.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pranay on May 22, 2008, 10:18:14 AM
Yesterday I did 31 times 42 in a row.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Scarp on May 22, 2008, 10:39:21 PM
2 diabolos chinese continuos acelaration ???
and i have been trying 2 diabolos s-fan
2 diabolo floor start
2 diabolos start(when we trow the diabolo into the air and start lol)

here can i find 2 diabolos fan tutorial? :-\
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 22, 2008, 10:51:39 PM
http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=20.0

search next time. its good for your health
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 22, 2008, 11:45:57 PM
Yesterday I did 31 times 42 in a row.
How about 42 31 times
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 23, 2008, 02:37:59 AM
How about 42 31 times

I don't think hes a native English speaker, you don't have to be an ass about it.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on May 23, 2008, 10:17:34 AM
By the way, Al, what are "Beated Suns"?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on May 23, 2008, 12:49:42 PM
I don't think hes a native English speaker, you don't have to be an ass about it.
wow,wow, no I mean I thought he did siteswap 31 with 2high 42 times, and thought it'd be cool if he reversed the numbers, okay, now I see it, 31 times of 42, sorry, but also wow.
By the way, Al, what are "Beated Suns"?
beated suns are suns after suns, so you do a sun,  then pull up again into another sun, you don't lead with the same diabolo, the diabolo that finishes the first sun leads the second
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on May 23, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
So just a double sun, tripple sun etc?  :o


A multiplex into arm stall (Two diabs)
Head stall is getting there.
Butterfly one way is nice, it's a bit sketchy going back though.

Palm spinning is ugly but getting there.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on May 23, 2008, 08:52:52 PM
palm spinning could be very cool indeed:)

i learnt that garner has a powerful vertax genocide and langerz's secret (its not out the closet yet... blackmail potential) over the weekend

doing transfers weird makes them look weird.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Roy on May 23, 2008, 09:13:09 PM
I just learned a new combo around my neck that is very cool.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on May 23, 2008, 10:03:43 PM
slanderous filth. dont listen to him people,

lz

learnt that deep purple is horrific to edit to, damn you ritchie blackmore
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on May 23, 2008, 10:25:45 PM
new or old secret lz??  The way you're devouring 2d nothing will be a shock

ps - I always believe
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on May 24, 2008, 09:01:48 AM
newish i suppose, i dont know what you mean i dont even play 2d?

lz

hehe
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on May 24, 2008, 10:47:53 AM
you are fraud and a sellout. well done and welcome to my world.

:)  :-*
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 24, 2008, 05:10:12 PM
tomicide to infinite suicide... finally

still trying to learn fun....

left vortex..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: cornsnakemad on May 24, 2008, 09:15:13 PM
nothing fancie as i only started a few days ago

left backside & open orbit
 :)

EDIT:
also just learnt cats cradle!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on May 25, 2008, 01:56:14 PM
2 on a loop  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 26, 2008, 02:31:14 AM
2d: sticktrap suicide to vortex
a little combo with tranfers.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Roy on May 27, 2008, 03:41:33 PM
Hi All


I was just curious of this neck combo already exist.
Or its just a boring trick that every one knows?

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Thnx All


-Roy-
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on May 27, 2008, 03:49:13 PM
Well ive never seen it before, i like it, its simple but it looks kool  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Roy on May 27, 2008, 06:29:59 PM
I just though the same  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 27, 2008, 07:57:44 PM
I never understood about the new wave of diabolo-ists these days that seem to have some sort of fetish for having their own original tricks.

It looks cool, but it's not original. Each individual component already exists
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Roy on May 27, 2008, 08:05:24 PM
Thats the reason the title says Combo and not trick.

Besides I dont understand why some people on this forum has the fetish for making other enthusiastic new people look like a idiot.
By saying something negative about every thread a newcomer makes.


-Roy-
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Myke on May 27, 2008, 08:20:19 PM
Thats the reason the title says Combo and not trick.

Besides I dont understand why some people on this forum has the fetish for making other enthusiastic new people look like a idiot.
By saying something negative about every thread a newcomer makes.


-Roy-


AMEN!
\m/
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Matt? on May 27, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
because this forum was set up for referencial use rather than for people to post spam and reposting threads that have been posted before. there are rules and regulations in stickies,

http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=1480.0

that one being probably the most important,

People are not being nasty or treating you like idiots, they are just trying to keep this forum in check.

Learn from what people tell you and you cant go wrong, but complaining and treating this as a place to spam irrelevant topics is not the best way to start.

The search bar is your friend, use it more
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on May 27, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Wouldn't this topic fit into the "I just learnt to..." thread anyway? Things generally digress a bit in that topic anyway...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Roy on May 27, 2008, 08:58:42 PM
Yeah your right -Leo-
I guess I was a little bit to enthusiastic when I maded this thread :P


-Roy-



Permission to move to i just learn to
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on May 28, 2008, 10:02:37 AM
I never understood about the new wave of diabolo-ists these days that seem to have some sort of fetish for having their own original tricks.

It looks cool, but it's not original. Each individual component already exists

i would disagree. the sense and satisfaction of learning a new trick is hard to beat and even harder if you have come up with it yourself. to say that every component of a trick has allready been done is a farce! for a start me and langerz have come up with numinous tricks that are (100%) original and even making people awhere to diffrent theory's (langerz). so to say that it has all essitionally been done before is ridiculous.

mofro (very hot headed)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: karatepekka on May 28, 2008, 10:22:35 AM
I think that he meant that every component of THAT EXACT TRICK we just saw was already there...
Not every component possible... Now that would be stupid, obviously there is much more to explore...

But then again I could be wrong too ??? ???
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JimmyCords. on May 28, 2008, 10:53:33 AM
Just learnt to do a left vertax stopover. Genocides here i come!.......-ish.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on May 28, 2008, 12:39:43 PM
21 continuous antisuicides - catches inbetween. With exit.
28 without exit.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: cornsnakemad on May 28, 2008, 01:23:21 PM
Just done my first suicide trick! The one where you start off doing a sun and let go of the stick half way through, dont know what its called, attempted sucide or something?  ???

Well chuffed! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on May 28, 2008, 01:28:30 PM
yeah thats an attempted suicide, check out www.diabolotricks.com (http://www.diabolotricks.com) for more ideas:)


I've just learnt an easier anti suicide more 2d grinds and grind combos:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 29, 2008, 12:38:22 AM
sprinkler suns
sprinkler double suns (not double sprinkler suns)

japanese style bouncy 2d horizontal whip acceleration (thats a mouthful)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on May 29, 2008, 02:06:13 AM
learning mini-columns
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 29, 2008, 02:33:34 AM
continuous vertax genocides (very flukey)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: cornsnakemad on May 29, 2008, 11:40:06 AM
Stickocide, Quicker stickoside, Chinese suicide, Double on Trapeze, Aternating trapezes, and Spaghetti


 ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on May 29, 2008, 12:30:10 PM
learning mini-columns
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: thetemple94 on May 29, 2008, 01:01:45 PM
A couple of yo-yo style string suicides going to a few different mounts.

Temps

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jonny_ on May 29, 2008, 03:05:07 PM
2 diabolo sprinkler can't get out of it yet though
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Null on May 29, 2008, 07:47:29 PM
My personal best 1d around the leg is 314 :D i would take a vid, but i dont have a camera.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on May 30, 2008, 11:30:17 AM
sprinkler arm stall. i think theres a integral or at least a decent suicide there too:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on May 30, 2008, 03:05:52 PM
sprinkler arm stall?
Never seen before. Any video?
Or do you mean the stick stall busk did in small?

BTW today i got 100 otts with 3d low. :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Aaron Z on May 31, 2008, 11:00:06 AM
I just learned how to enter vertax, maintain vertax, do suns, wraps and trapezes in vertax all in less than 30 minutes of practice all-up!
I think I have a knack for vertax, I've been more productive over time in this field than any other.

How long have other people taken to learn vertax/excalibur? I just wanna compare to see if my time is actually something special.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on May 31, 2008, 01:46:38 PM
vertax is one of those things thats ridiculously hard to learn but really easy when you get the hang of it (like 2d). i'd say 45 mins is about right to learn vertax (assuming you've seen videos of people's technique) and start applying crossover tricks to it. The really original stuff takes weeks to come up with.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on May 31, 2008, 03:52:37 PM
Sprinkler arm stalls a pretty fun trick, I also figured out a 2d integral from a vortex arm stall, and i think there might be some possibility from 2d mini-gen.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on May 31, 2008, 09:11:17 PM
Sprinkler arm stalls a pretty fun trick, I also figured out a 2d integral from a vortex arm stall, and i think there might be some possibility from 2d mini-gen.

Haven´t you got a video? 

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on June 01, 2008, 12:25:21 AM
Haven´t you got a video? 



Sadly lacking a camera...And filming skills.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on June 01, 2008, 11:16:29 AM
maybe a description?  ???
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on June 01, 2008, 11:27:05 AM
cheese whip with diab and yoyo
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on June 01, 2008, 12:34:14 PM
good work boy. we'll make a yoer out of you yet mr morgan

i learnt 9A mini gens

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: cereal on June 01, 2008, 08:59:24 PM
just did my few first excalibur genocides , so happy  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 01, 2008, 09:05:37 PM
First time i landed a normal fan on my back with fixed axle diabolos and quad sprinkler suicide exit.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Roy on June 01, 2008, 09:38:37 PM
I can do excalibur now :D


-Roy-
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hodges on June 01, 2008, 10:20:23 PM
meh, here's me still feeling proud of myself for finally being able to pull of an infinate suicide 7/10 times...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on June 03, 2008, 03:23:13 PM
I think I can do star cradle now  :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on June 03, 2008, 07:24:27 PM
-2d sprinkler motorbike stall
-Integral lamecide
-Integral lamecide sticktrap
-Integral lamecide that looks like that yoyo trick matt keeps doing
-Half a promising body combo

-Alex
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: cornsnakemad on June 03, 2008, 07:31:25 PM
Genocide into stickocide!

I'm well proud of myself!  8) ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 03, 2008, 07:33:16 PM
7 ott catches with 3 diabolo, thats my record ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Janey on June 04, 2008, 12:00:55 PM
now i can do a vertax genocide :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on June 04, 2008, 02:49:00 PM
now i can do a vertax genocide :D

Damm you.. I still can't catch it  :-[

I learned some new key positions ( that counts to right? )
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on June 04, 2008, 06:21:42 PM
lamecide?? do you have a video??

a have good mini-columns now..
learned how to start and exit c-fan...
now I just have to learn "the" C-fan...and how to keep it going..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on June 05, 2008, 12:25:45 AM
learning "double" (??) sprinkler
and a lot of suns with 2d..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 05, 2008, 02:14:41 AM
way to double post. no problem in this thread though (guilty myself)

I just learned a REALLY fast knot combo. I'm like a second-rate, subpar langerz now!

but i did it with a fixed axle
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on June 05, 2008, 08:31:53 AM
way to double post. no problem in this thread though (guilty myself)

I just learned a REALLY fast knot combo. I'm like a second-rate, subpar langerz now!

but i did it with a fixed axle

dude its cheating if you dont use bairing!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on June 05, 2008, 01:19:57 PM
Catch a diabolo on my head.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on June 05, 2008, 01:47:14 PM
dude its cheating if you dont use bairing!

I never thought I'd see the day when someone on this forum said that.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on June 05, 2008, 06:26:21 PM
-Integral lamecide that looks like that yoyo trick matt keeps doing
Turns out it was a green triangle, though it isnt green
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 05, 2008, 08:31:05 PM
Just got my longest ever S-fan on fixed axle diabolos, i managed 2 minutes 38 seconds before my arms felt like they were gonna explode, i no thats nothing compared to what some people can do (nev and ginger_tom spring to mind lol) but for me its pretty good.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 06, 2008, 09:36:14 PM
Quote
dude its cheating if you dont use bairing!
I enjoy cheating. My ultimate goal is to recreate the entirety of CaRnAgE with a fixed axle slightly modified finesse. Will it happen? Probably not.

More on topic, i learned myself another such sequence. With fixed axles.

I can do the 2d part of CaRnAgE, though
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on June 06, 2008, 10:11:29 PM
1D:

A few original creations excaliburtricks (soon to be filmed ;D).

Excalibur minisuns with a wrap (the ones Ben Langholz do)

Different 1D bodycombos.

Gotten very close to Bloodyclowns integral but only with a much shorter string than normal

5 jumpropes under 1 high (about 6-7 m roof).

Started practicing to integrate rolls, cartwheels and L-kicks.

Some very basic contactstuff

A few catch-in-hand variations

Double duicide with sting+stick catch (controlled not by accident)

2D:

New fan and s-fan stuff

Slowcide 1D-handgrind 1D-throw back (proper name?)

Just started learning throw and recapture from sun to left bw.

Left sprinkler grindstop (proper name?)

Fts 1-2 (and doubles 2´s and variations too but don´t know the siteswaps)

3D:

Continous 42* better (but those suckers are still not solid when it´s just a little bit windy and it´s total storm here atm >:()

Double handstall stopoverexit

Single handstall normal exit a bit smoother.

1D onesided:

MC-stall to curl-back into string/finish

Stickjam-curl

Footgrind

"Axlegrab"

 

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Conor on June 07, 2008, 09:48:27 PM
Started practicing to integrate rolls, cartwheels and L-kicks.

Slowcide 1D-handgrind 1D-throw back (proper name?)


would be very intrested to see cartwheels and roles.

the 2d trick is called a 'stop n go' i believe. why are all diabolo trick names cheesy or morbid?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jonny_ on June 07, 2008, 10:47:15 PM
vertax genocide but i cant get it going again
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on June 07, 2008, 11:23:16 PM
learning sticktrap stall..
another transfer

leraning C-fan ....
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ERIK da blue on June 08, 2008, 07:22:49 PM
woooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
3D double arm stall (well...one hand stall and one arm stall)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yw_Q01vgumk
i know about the crap quality-you don't have to tell me.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 08, 2008, 08:13:25 PM
Thats awesome!!!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ERIK da blue on June 08, 2008, 08:20:12 PM
i still can't believe that it only took me a day to learn!
i got sun last weekend.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 08, 2008, 08:43:27 PM
very very poorly executed C-fan. I just can't seem to stick the exit though. I can do left trapeze, vortex, left wrap, and knot steal entries
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 08, 2008, 09:44:37 PM
I worked out this integral thing.......its messy but im proud of it :p

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Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ERIK da blue on June 08, 2008, 09:54:57 PM
that's awesome!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 08, 2008, 09:58:48 PM
that's awesome!
Ha its nothing compared to your 3 diabolo trick .......i cant do 3 =[ ive been trying for about 3 months but im getting no where >.<
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on June 08, 2008, 10:29:41 PM
Ha its nothing compared to your 3 diabolo trick .......i cant do 3 =[ ive been trying for about 3 months but im getting no where >.<

I've been working on and off, here and there, you get it, on three diabolos for 6 months and I've barely showed any progress till recently i seem to have taken another step forward I can get an ott or two more commonly than messing up ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 08, 2008, 10:33:49 PM
I've been working on and off, here and there, you get it, on three diabolos for 6 months and I've barely showed any progress till recently i seem to have taken another step forward I can get an ott or two more commonly than messing up ;D
Well last week i managed to get 7 or 8 ott .......this week i cant start it lol
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on June 08, 2008, 11:21:10 PM
Well last week i managed to get 7 or 8 ott .......this week i cant start it lol

Hehe sometimes you have tricks that even if you work so hard it just won't work! And then suddenly you can do it  ;D

I'm making progres with 2d high =)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 08, 2008, 11:27:50 PM
Hehe sometimes you have tricks that even if you work so hard it just won't work! And then suddenly you can do it  ;D

I'm making progres with 2d high =)
Yeh im really struggling with 2 high,most ive got is about 20 catches, i wish i started learning it earlier on.....cause now im trying to get 3D low i get inpatient and try 3 high lol, never made it pass 0 catches xD
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on June 09, 2008, 03:03:06 AM
2Dsprinkler... finally. but its not consistent yet.... yet
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on June 09, 2008, 03:29:29 AM
3d left trapeze slack while isolating the other two.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on June 09, 2008, 10:30:48 AM
did i hear someone say slack?.....
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on June 09, 2008, 10:43:42 AM
Now that I have your attention..
Yes. With three times as many diabolos as your usual slacker.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on June 09, 2008, 11:29:36 AM
Now that I have your attention..
Yes. With three times as many diabolos as your usual slacker.

He's good ^^

And Dodsen try to short your string while doing 2 high it may help you  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on June 09, 2008, 12:04:00 PM
Now that I have your attention..
Yes. With three times as many diabolos as your usual slacker.
you may be able to do slack with three times as many diabolos. but can you do 3 times as much slack on one diabolo?.... thats where the real skill is.

mofro
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jimthegrim on June 09, 2008, 12:18:38 PM
you may be able to do slack with three times as many diabolos. but can you do 3 times as much slack on one diabolo?.... thats where the real skill is.

Thats where its at.

Seeing as im here might as well say i learnt short transfers.

Jim
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on June 09, 2008, 12:22:59 PM
i learnt a brilliant web around the wrist (donald grant so sean_ says) and ideas for flouncing even though i can't do it yet.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jonny_ on June 09, 2008, 12:35:54 PM
almost did 3d today and did 2d high with siteswaps and 360s
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on June 09, 2008, 12:46:40 PM
A fair call Josh! I'll stand down. However.. 3d Eiffel..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: karatepekka on June 09, 2008, 01:45:46 PM
27 otts 3D ;D ;D ;D

Finally starting to understand how the hands should move...still a long way to stable shuffle though...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 09, 2008, 03:31:34 PM
112 otts 2d antishuffle
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Myke on June 09, 2008, 09:17:54 PM
I've been practising in the park all day, i can now do

-Throw and Catch (WITH an added bounce, mind!)
-Half suicide
-Cat's Cradle ^_^
umh...some more self-made combo's :D

is there a trick to whipcatch btw?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 09, 2008, 09:25:09 PM
you can create your own sequences like....
Inverse trapeze to whip catch
throw and bounce to whip catch etc etc.....

I just learned left wrap vortexes and right wrap vortexes
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 09, 2008, 10:09:16 PM
right wrap vortexes
What are they?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 09, 2008, 10:16:08 PM
you know how in a normal vortex you do a right front wrap and push it over in front of the other diab?

In a right wrap, you do a right backwrap and push it behind the other diab. The result is a right wrap the diab which is kind of hovering on the left side. Left unwrap the diab, which results in an anticlockwise sun. Slide the sunned diab under the unsunned diab into a right front wrap, which results in a right backwrap. Its complicated, but it looks cool.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on June 09, 2008, 10:18:47 PM
A fair call Josh! I'll stand down. However.. 3d Eiffel..
dude u got a trifle down? sweet!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 09, 2008, 10:25:20 PM
you know how in a normal vortex you do a right front wrap and push it over in front of the other diab?

In a right wrap, you do a right backwrap and push it behind the other diab. The result is a right wrap the diab which is kind of hovering on the left side. Left unwrap the diab, which results in an anticlockwise sun. Slide the sunned diab under the unsunned diab into a right front wrap, which results in a right backwrap. Its complicated, but it looks cool.
I think i no what you mean, have you got a video of someone doing it?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 09, 2008, 10:27:04 PM
i could make one but it'd take a while. A whole bunch of wierd looking 2d moves are based around this trick though. Just concentrate on the hands.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on June 10, 2008, 01:39:48 AM
sprinkler pirouette (is the name correctly??) exit
learning a left trapeze in both diabolos, looks like a small shuffle but it's a sprinkler thing...

3d looks like a dream yet...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on June 10, 2008, 01:46:17 AM
3d looks like a dream yet...
I'd call it a nightmare...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Myke on June 10, 2008, 08:57:53 AM
I'd call it a nightmare...

don't wanna think about it...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on June 11, 2008, 02:04:23 AM
relaxx...this day will come..

good and exhausting training

1d:
very cool contact things

2d:
attempt suicide
anti-start

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 11, 2008, 10:24:06 PM
Worked out an instant Eiffel tower slack whip thing.

100 Posts ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: bvtmattyc on June 12, 2008, 01:23:57 PM
I just learned how to do wrap accelerations and am practicing Chinese whips. 

thanks and hi to Logoman!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Myke on June 12, 2008, 07:21:19 PM
Suicide!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: thetemple94 on June 12, 2008, 07:42:52 PM
Some weird trapeze combo thingy done really fast à la LaNgErZ (both norm-ax and vertax) and wrapped mini-gen (finally)

Temps
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on June 12, 2008, 11:33:28 PM
was trying some siteswaps, and managed 62020 a few times, 3d high is evil

250 pages....wow
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: bvtmattyc on June 13, 2008, 03:13:55 AM
OH YEAH - just nailed Coffee Grinder and Dixon's Coffee Grinder!!   ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on June 13, 2008, 03:15:38 AM
Trapeze
Left suicide
Double Trapeze
Around both arms
Double cat in the cradle
Rocket start
 8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on June 13, 2008, 07:24:30 AM
mini coloms and 3low wrap hover
but no 3 low
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Darragh on June 13, 2008, 08:41:42 AM
Have some basic vertax passing going on now
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: DaviD Brackpool on June 14, 2008, 02:34:25 PM
shans star logo thing

almost got unrapped inf suicides :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on June 17, 2008, 02:37:38 AM
dont do UFO grind attempts in a very low ceiling room....... ow on my face!!
also vertax stopovers... YAY! finally got it!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on June 17, 2008, 12:32:01 PM
Integral lame-icide mach 5.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 17, 2008, 04:06:40 PM
2 diabolo right sun, i cant believe its taken me this long to get the hang of  ??? seems so simple now.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on June 17, 2008, 06:43:53 PM
Stable 2d mini columns.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on June 17, 2008, 07:52:30 PM
@diabolo dodson
yes i agree. It takes me damn long to learn it.
I learned 2d minigenocide before right sun  :D
Ha today i learned my 2d integral lamecide  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: thetemple94 on June 17, 2008, 07:55:14 PM
:D Perfect vertax gen :D

Temps
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: -Leo- on June 17, 2008, 08:37:09 PM
An asynchronous-super-duper-gravity-defying-British-3rdbase-milk-the-cow-antilameicide[420] :)

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Llama_Bill on June 17, 2008, 08:41:40 PM
A single-diabolo-asynchronous-super-duper-tweaked-gravity-defying-British-3rdbase-milk-the-cow-antilameicide-[420]-v.1.13  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on June 17, 2008, 11:58:35 PM
Quote
Integral lame-icide mach 5.

For real? Please do film it ;).

Learnt the lamecide and "threaded" instant triforce. Also another knot from the reversed C-knotstart.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on June 18, 2008, 01:08:53 AM
2 diabolo right sun, i cant believe its taken me this long to get the hang of  ??? seems so simple now.

I still can't do it, and I don't really care to.  ::)

Some 2d stuff, basic throws and catchs.
Spent a fair bit of time on 1d around the arm orbits today, slowly getting there and not feeling so crap.


Considering making a video with all these new tricks I'm learning!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on June 18, 2008, 02:41:39 AM
For real? Please do film it ;).

Learnt the lamecide and "threaded" instant triforce. Also another knot from the reversed C-knotstart.

yay someone did something with my trick!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on June 18, 2008, 07:14:47 AM
7 ott catches with 3 diabolo, thats my record ;D

in your face ive done 9
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on June 18, 2008, 07:47:58 AM
I doubt I'll film it. Its too lame even for a lamecide
in your face ive done 9
In YOUR face, I've done 1000+
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 18, 2008, 10:08:05 AM
Since when did this topic become a competition?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on June 18, 2008, 01:07:08 PM
it looks like i'll probably never make a video so here's some of my 3d. deal with it.
i think i'm capable of better than this but well not today  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcOyAYCgwXA

(suck on this)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on June 18, 2008, 01:43:27 PM
a new and better version of 3 diabolos so in all of your faces. infact i'm gonna try and video it now:) x

Not as good as my 3 diabolo manipulation.

In your face.


Also I learnt:

Some more head stuff, and found out flats are hard to throw with diabolos =[

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on June 18, 2008, 04:31:13 PM
yay someone did something with my trick!

i think you'd better talk to jim the grim about that, he's torn it apart

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on June 18, 2008, 06:32:52 PM
i think you'd better talk to jim the grim about that, he's torn it apart

lz

Good or bad torn apart?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: thetemple94 on June 18, 2008, 06:52:59 PM
it looks like i'll probably never make a video so here's some of my 3d. deal with it.
i think i'm capable of better than this but well not today  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcOyAYCgwXA

(suck on this)

Lol at that.

Some GT's, a GT integral (well sort of) and a vertax thingy.

Temps
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on June 18, 2008, 06:54:16 PM
what is a "integral lamecide"? btw?????
just wondering...........

sry if the questions is a bit stupid.... ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 18, 2008, 07:07:30 PM
look at this weeks votw
integral lamecide>vertax

I just learned vortex stall>antisuicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on June 18, 2008, 07:10:08 PM
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yay someone did something with my trick!

Yep I now have two versions of the instant triforce (inspired by your original ofcourse, thanks for coming up with such a mega-geeky-cool trick :-*).

Also I have learnt shoulderwhips-onehanded throw-pirouette-shoulderwhip. So you whip-throw-pirouette-catch repeatedly. Also on hold for the collab ;). Also learnt to grind inside a sprinkler but that´s not a new trick.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on June 19, 2008, 12:17:17 AM
Some more head stuff, and found out flats are hard to throw with diabolos =[



Giving them spin does wonders for that ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on June 19, 2008, 09:48:58 AM
i think you'd better talk to Jim the grim about that, he's torn it apart

lz
Good or bad torn apart?

well for a start, Jim nor you invented that trick its been around for donkeys right? secondly Jim the mother fu***ng grim has shredded that trick to oblivion. i think his record is an instant triple 'tri force' (i do not approve of this name) and thats not to metion all of the variations that he has come up with.
however, as many as he has come up with. I THINK THAT HE NEEDS TO DECIDE ON ONE AND LEAVE IT ALONE. (yo get that Jim?)

mofro
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Niclas on June 20, 2008, 01:08:11 PM
360 ac fan ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 20, 2008, 04:15:32 PM
10/11 ish catches of 3low
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on June 20, 2008, 05:13:48 PM
2D around the leg And 2d accelerations.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on June 20, 2008, 05:31:04 PM
Got a solid 2 around the arm, and a almost solid 1 around both arms and a leg.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on June 20, 2008, 06:47:13 PM
I just learned vortex stall>antisuicide

I still don´t know what a Vortex stall is  >:(
Please anybody can tell me?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on June 20, 2008, 07:48:03 PM
some 2d stuff..
like stalls and a contorcionism thing just like Trash
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on June 20, 2008, 08:33:58 PM
weird magic note thing with 2D, dont know what it is, but hey it looks cool
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on June 21, 2008, 08:04:51 PM
TOMOCIDE!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!
and kind of a vertax genocide. landed it twice, but only twice.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on June 21, 2008, 09:55:02 PM
In YOUR face, I've done 1000+

 >:(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 21, 2008, 11:24:55 PM
2d vortex to antisuicide, knot steal to antisuicide (antisuicides in general)
also, antisuicide to back wrap pop-up to fts. I never learned how to do normal popup (tutorial anybody?)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on June 22, 2008, 12:21:09 AM
Anice and very useful little transfer which means I can speed uo each diabolo without taking off a wrap in 2d
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on June 22, 2008, 01:23:56 AM
Anice and very useful little transfer which means I can speed uo each diabolo without taking off a wrap in 2d
Left wrap on diabolo diab to right front wrap on right diab?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 23, 2008, 02:08:43 AM
2d grind to antisuicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on June 23, 2008, 02:42:16 AM
a vertax grind, not a UFO, but a vertax stick grind- it's pretty cool
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: barnesy on June 23, 2008, 10:25:42 PM
I just learnt that 3 low to high is more subtle than I thought.  Like with so many juggly things, I was overcooking it to start with.  I don't try high much, but when I used to try low to high, I would think of it as the siteswap for the transition.   But tonight I tried to just creep the height up from low so it became high.  I was still doing the same transition (...33345606060...) but instead of thinking about the heights of all the throws, I just crept them up without paying much attention to each individual throw.  I spent a while failing before I realised I had to make sure I was ready to catch the first of the slightly higher throws, which was catching me a little by surprise, but once I sorted that out the transition started to work much better than I've had it work before.  I still wouldn't say I can do three high, but I had a few short but controlled runs and can see it coming together.  This might be the summer when I finally bother to get it solid!

Dave
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on June 24, 2008, 02:44:36 AM
..... trashs web, and j whip.
i finally got the concept of it.... YAY!
and i go a few exits from it too. not just letting it slide off the string. cool exits!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on June 24, 2008, 09:11:40 AM
Anti-suicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mofro on June 24, 2008, 03:21:25 PM
don't really post here but this a good 'en.
I have learnt a new string theory, it allows you to put a twist into the strings of alot of mounts therefore, allowing you to take strings that weren't previously there, or accessable. my greatest achievement as of yet.

mo-fro
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: RR on June 24, 2008, 04:39:05 PM
Yesterday my first Suicide,today my first Genocide(but i've to improve it much better.)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on June 24, 2008, 05:34:27 PM
Bintegral
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on June 24, 2008, 06:42:49 PM
Bintegral
#

Are you kidding me? What´s a bintegral?
Explanation pls
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on June 24, 2008, 07:08:16 PM
bintegral???

it sounds like a new crazy integral but..
I want to now what is it too..

explanation??

..

--> learning cascade with 3 diabolo (2 person)
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 25, 2008, 02:58:39 AM
i messed up naming a bunch of tricks, so lets start over. I just learned (just meaning yesterday and today)

vortex to suicide
grind to antisuicide
grindless antisuicide

vortex to suicide to grindless suicide
vortex to suicide to grind to suicide

vortex to suicide to vortex
and all other combinations thereof
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on June 27, 2008, 03:15:55 AM
3d passing 360
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on June 27, 2008, 12:37:37 PM
have lots of fun with trapezes and fingers.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 27, 2008, 02:32:33 PM
the "proper" way to do sprinkler suns (wrist flare, kind of like a really quick wrap/unwrap)

also a neat little knotsteal to Right backwrap grind (proceed into vortex or antisuicide->vortex)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on June 27, 2008, 03:54:45 PM
i just realized that my string is indistructible so i've been practicing 2D high, and i got a 2 up 360, dont know the technical wording for that, but there you go
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 27, 2008, 05:01:58 PM
very very very badly executed sprinkler infinite suicide
haven't managed the exit yet, but working on it

i know it's not really infinite
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JimmyCords. on June 28, 2008, 04:04:15 AM
2d left and right suns
still working on trapeze... >_<
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 28, 2008, 05:28:19 AM
vertax grind stall
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on June 28, 2008, 05:38:00 AM
3 high skippywhippy :O followed by 5 catches
Strange as I suck at 3 high siteswaps
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Will G on June 28, 2008, 12:24:57 PM
Satellites around one arm
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on June 28, 2008, 02:02:15 PM
2D continuous wrap acceleration!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on June 29, 2008, 01:26:35 AM
fake vortex transfer otherwise known as "right back wrap front vortex"
complements "right front wrap front vortex" or "right back wrap back vortex"
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on June 29, 2008, 07:40:38 PM
Invented some new tricks.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on June 30, 2008, 11:09:05 AM
Remembered some ideas I had for tricks ages ago, back to practicing them.

Some random single sprinkler stuff and ofc more contact.   playing with mixing spinning/contact diabolo now but not far yet =[

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on June 30, 2008, 09:45:15 PM
Invented some new tricks.

waiting for matt or alex to say something in response to that...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jonny_ on June 30, 2008, 09:49:42 PM
finnaly got the 2d sprinkler suicide exit yesterday
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on July 01, 2008, 03:56:21 AM
waiting for matt or alex to say something in response to that...

I invented some new tricks today also.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on July 01, 2008, 05:59:07 AM
waiting for matt or alex to say something in response to that...

Me too.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on July 02, 2008, 03:57:44 PM
Some new tricks, nothing tech. Just some tricks I think look cool.

And working on some diabolo + hoody tricks.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 02, 2008, 04:15:38 PM
invented a little trick.
a kind of j-whip inverse cradle to (I don't now how to speak this:) change the sticks in the air..

?????

kind like this...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 02, 2008, 04:38:31 PM
instant cradle!
kinda lame actually, its just pop up, underwhip into cradle.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on July 03, 2008, 02:36:39 AM
Went outside today to try to practice some 3 high, and got some good runs on film.

27 throws of 3high

441 with 5 catches after

3high-3low

3low 7(22)(22) sun, (5 2*2*)

and a 3low minicolumn variation
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 03, 2008, 04:03:14 AM
william lin's vertax grind
also tipgrind tilt vertax entry

man i post in this thread too much
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on July 04, 2008, 11:57:49 PM
Jacob Sharpe's cool vertax genocide btb combo, and some other cool stuff  ;)

and 10 throws 4d passing
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on July 05, 2008, 03:55:54 AM
oh nice work, that one's fun.

Learned how to do a street show (over the last month... It SUCKS), but today and yesterday were awesome, people were laughing like, every 30 seconds. And I did my first 4 high pirrouette for an audience (didn't qualify after, but was close); not for a show, just while practicing on the street (it was too sunny earlier in the day for people to want to stand still for 30 minutes, so I just practiced with a bucket out).
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Lord92 on July 05, 2008, 08:45:17 AM
lil' bit 2D High
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 05, 2008, 08:46:27 AM
Bintegral minig from a nice flowing body combo
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on July 05, 2008, 01:24:25 PM
Bintegral minig from a nice flowing body combo
Turns out my bintegral is no longer a bintegral as I didnt realise I kept one stick in one hand...still awesome though...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on July 05, 2008, 10:57:29 PM
Haven´t practiced well in the last few weeks (lost my practicehall + weather has been terrible). This is some of the progress from the past two weeks:

Reversed dirrection instant triforce (looks and works EXACTLY the same as the normal one just way harder to enter from the front. In other words a highly useless trick :P).

Lots of new slackstuff without names.

Legfrontwrap-suicide from William´s recently posted act in France. Very unsmooth so far but movement is there.

Half flip of lamecide into a weird stopped stall with crossed sticks (named it "Jolly Roger" since the placement of the diabolo and sticks looks like the skull and bones on those pirateflags). Made a way to start it up again too.

One hand thumbroll other hand throw stick-BTB-rollout to repeat/alternate on both sides. Variations on the thrown stick (flats, half-flourish out etc).

Stickstall and one-handed stickstall in excalibur (my own creations).

Necklaunched excalibur geno and necklaunched doublerotated suicide into sun into geno (again my own stuff so can´t explain or name it very good :P).

BTB-leg excalibursuicide into inf.suicide (haven´t come up with a proper name for this either)

Also tried to do a gyroflop in excalibur by doing a MC-stall but wrapping the string with the finger from above. It might work but don´t know how (possibly a bearingtrick that could work nicely?).

Almost got Bloodyclowns integral. Almost got into a weird variation of this integral too (but failed miserably).

Starting to have better success with "full" (normal) integral. Before I have always only done a half one to fit into the speed of my favorite combo (whip-geno-half integral-slowcide-Macaroniknot to crossed-Yabes knot-accelration-or extended into JiBe´s BTB-knot with added variations).

Some stickmanipulation (Onehanded throw, 330 as flats or rotated, Devilstick-styled wristtraps from throws, fingertwirls, alternate/simultaneous thumbrolls etc). Can do most under a high throw.

2D sprinkler into 180-180 into BTB-sprinklerexit-BTB shuffle

2D wrong way sprinkler exit-reverse sun exit

2D held antisuicide (don´t know the real name)

2D half sun-catch one diabolo-inf.suicide with the left-throw back (the one William does).

2D onehanded stall-suicide/slowcide thingy

2D neckstall-calfstall-BTB shuffle (from Lena Köhn) + a few alternative entries to the neckstall)

Perfectly smooth sync-style sun in 3D (finally looks like Yabes in syncstyle).

Much better 42* but they are so difficult for me still. Can start them from both two handed and dominant hand biased sync.

42*-double handstall-crossed arm handstall. Variations on this.


Maybe some more stuff too but this is what I can remember atm.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on July 06, 2008, 12:41:37 AM
and 10 throws 4d passing
yeah thats right

got a 2D pirouette for the third time now :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 06, 2008, 01:35:26 AM
Diabolo88 - You are another person who I would like to see a full video from :)
Alex - Would like to see it anyway.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 06, 2008, 07:58:42 AM
3 diabolo speed wraps are pretty solid
speed wrap, sun, around the leg, 42* directly into double armstall all in one run, quite pleased with a days work.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Myke on July 07, 2008, 03:27:17 PM
I did my first infinite suicide today :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on July 07, 2008, 03:31:47 PM
I did my first infinite suicide today :D

Nice- now try the genocide release
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on July 07, 2008, 07:01:26 PM
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Diabolo88 - You are another person who I would like to see a full video from

You will see one sometime. It´s just that I´m pretty much oblivious about all things technical, editing, adding music, effects etc so the video will come in the (hopefully not too distant) future. Have started slowly on it by spotting out some locations around town.

Today got two new tricks of my own from just messing around. None of them has names so suggestions are welcome.

An eiffeltower/MC-stall combined, into a gyroflop 90 degrees, into excalibur (very yoyoinspired and cool...if I can say so myself ;). Will film it for the collab along with the instant triforce). Oh, and this one really looks like handlebars on an MC since you have both sticks in your left and 1 piece of string each for the diabolo and right hand.

Also got a funny knot from a slack from the front where the stick gets trapped with the string and then hung paralell (something similar possibly already invented by others? Funny because you can hold your hand above the stick and pretend you´re levitating it "magic style" ;D).

The Eiffelstall has lots of variations so will be something to mess with the coming week.

Also got that trick where you rotate the stick and string around the diabolo (the one Jibe does in diabology in minicolumns) in the position the Taiwanese do with the legs where the diabolo bounces back and forth. Only with 1 diabolo obiously. Doesn´t sound too hard but it actually is since you have so little string to work with. Make sure to wear longpants practicing it or you will cut yourself.

Lastly, it works to gyroflop a diabolo 360 degrees. I did it from a normal MC-stall but place the finger from the top instead. I used fixed axles so didn´t really work well but...anyone with bearings could try it out please?

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Bintegral minig from a nice flowing body combo

What´s a Bintegral?

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Learned how to do a street show (over the last month... It SUCKS), but today and yesterday were awesome, people were laughing like, every 30 seconds. And I did my first 4 high pirrouette for an audience (didn't qualify after, but was close); not for a show, just while practicing on the street (it was too sunny earlier in the day for people to want to stand still for 30 minutes, so I just practiced with a bucket out).

Just wondering, what is your record with 4 high now? Do you have it stable? Just wondering since I always thought your style of shuffling 3 looks so very promising for 4 low. Have you practiced taking 4 down?

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on July 08, 2008, 03:36:52 AM
made up a cool sprinkler release combo...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 08, 2008, 03:54:00 AM
3 ball cascade (not diab, and almost qualified- got 11 touches)(and keeps moving forward)

also- double knotstall->double vortex
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on July 08, 2008, 09:46:55 AM
Nonuple vortex
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 08, 2008, 04:50:47 PM
20 touches 3 ball cascade and a couple multiplex thingies.

also, fast sprinkler to knotsteal
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 08, 2008, 05:42:28 PM
nonuple?? what's this???

still trying to learn s-fan..
someone help me please!! I can do just 4 turns (???) and after this everything stop...
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jonny_ on July 08, 2008, 07:00:55 PM
just did a double right slackwhip in one whip wows
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on July 08, 2008, 07:12:47 PM
Vertax genocide  :o (almost). I still sometimes mess up after catching so the diabolo flies meters away.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 08, 2008, 10:18:47 PM
almost getting the hand motion of S-fan..
this week I'll learn it!!

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on July 08, 2008, 10:21:16 PM
nonuple?? what's this???
Nonuple means nine the same way triple means three and quadruple means four

if he did a double vortex it means he did two wraps on one diabolo then undid both wraps in a double vortex, a nonuple would be difficult, dare I say impossible, without bearings, I don't think you could get 9 wraps on one fixed axel.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on July 08, 2008, 10:32:00 PM
without bearings, I don't think you could get 9 wraps on one fixed axel.

You are quite correct!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on July 09, 2008, 03:00:14 AM
3 diaolos wrap start went around twice
couldnt keep the shuffle going but still ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on July 09, 2008, 08:45:35 AM
3 diaolos wrap start went around twice
couldnt keep the shuffle going but still ;D
Yay you've started the long road towards 3D, keep it up and ,as i read on one of your other posts, "Korinzai Jishu"  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 09, 2008, 03:23:26 PM
understood..
but..what's the name of a vortex with another continuous vortex and successively???
(do you understand? I have to improve my english....)

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on July 09, 2008, 03:39:07 PM
3D suns.. i can do them pretty well now.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jonny_ on July 09, 2008, 04:49:09 PM
did like 4 catchs of 3 diabolos yay
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on July 09, 2008, 06:32:17 PM
just did a double right slackwhip in one whip wows
I've done a quadruple  :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sharpes on July 09, 2008, 08:09:43 PM
83 catches of 4 high, (4)633444444, 49 catches of 5 club singles.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on July 09, 2008, 09:02:44 PM
83 catches of 4 high
You'll get triple didgets soon
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Will G on July 09, 2008, 09:04:23 PM
Make hubstacks for harlequins
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 10, 2008, 12:38:08 AM
PM on how you did it, and what you used..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on July 10, 2008, 04:37:38 PM
PM on how you did it, and what you used..
Say please...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on July 10, 2008, 04:38:52 PM
^ yeah you well done for actually making the hubstack? looks vaguely like mine which already fit harlequins. in which case well done your a genious

lz


Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on July 11, 2008, 10:26:35 PM
Some easy 3 ball siteswaps, and floorbounce tricks.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 13, 2008, 07:37:33 PM
more 3 ball patterns

something like...111222333? something like that.
also 3 ball columns, 2 ball one handed columns

and.....333 to 2 ball columns to 3 ball columns

creative crisis with diab=3 ball fury

but...
2d easy wrap stall

edit: 111222333 isn't even a valid siteswap for 3 balls. What i did was a neck level cascade to forehead level to over the head level and then down again
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on July 13, 2008, 09:03:48 PM
edit: 111222333 isn't even a valid siteswap for 3 balls. What i did was a neck level cascade to forehead level to over the head level and then down again
Its not valid for anything, 1 is a pass, what your doing is like 333 4x 0 4x 0 4x 0 5 00 5 00 500.......uh, nevermind  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 13, 2008, 10:32:41 PM
2d:

mini-columns to right trapeze (I know, it sucks...)
a kind of finger stall big sun
trying to invent a kind of crazy j-whip thing to magic knot release with 2d..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on July 13, 2008, 10:40:58 PM
Its not valid for anything, 1 is a pass, what your doing is like 333 4x 0 4x 0 4x 0 5 00 5 00 500.......uh, nevermind  ;)

In all technicalities it's just 33333.... he's just changing height of the 3, so technically the 4, 5, 6, etc. are also getting bigger.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on July 14, 2008, 12:05:15 AM
Sorry this is off topic but DiaboloBro, I'm going to be at IJA and wanted to know if you were staying at the Hyatt Regency Hotel, And if you wanted to meet up where at the IJA, and if your with a group how i Will recognize your group...Do lots of 3d shuffles there and i'll probably be able to find you..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Olive on July 14, 2008, 01:23:30 PM
Feed the sun variations, finally... Thanks Ben!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 14, 2008, 04:35:57 PM
because i just suck royally when it comes to siteswaps, lets just say i learned the following "feed the cascade (ftc) variations)

ftc 2-3
ftc 1-2-3
ftc-1-2

and something that's essentially 42 pop-ups

note that this is diab tricks i'm talking about

doing it with beanbags is alot easier than 3d
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jem on July 14, 2008, 09:15:33 PM
2d:

trying to invent a kind of crazy j-whip thing to magic knot release with 2d..

..

This doesn't sound like a new invention but good progress. You can release it with a fritz release (inverted magic knot) or you can drop it into a wrap for a wrapped mini genocide exit  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 15, 2008, 02:56:25 PM
I know it.... but I'm trying to figure out different things...
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on July 16, 2008, 12:29:58 AM
Day before yesterday learnt a suicide with the string only as a loop from a left hand suicide (from practicing the eiffelflop, entry is half-flop with sucide changed to be paralell and stopped by the stick to aim for the left frontside after half rotation). Both sticks are held in the right hand (it has to be lefty suicide because doing it the other way with a fixed axlediabolo makes the loop non-existent).
Maybe this is an old trick but I have never seen anyone do it.

If someone out there has a diabolopartner it would be so cool if one person could do this string-suicide and maybe the partner could catch the loop from the suicide onto one of his/her sticks (it´s a big loop and easy to aim so shouldn´t be a big problem) and possibly extend it to some 3A-ish tricks/knots with two sets of string and anything from 2-4 diabs.

It has two alternative exits so far. First is just let go of the loop and untwist the string. It takes any number of CW-suns depending on how many suicides were made and can end in 3 different positions (right now those are just seemingly random :P). Second is more reliable and far easier is just to take the diabolo out of the first loop and the second loop winds up automatically. From there you can throw it onto the top of the string to be ready to whip it. This is also a better exit because you can do any number of suicides and don´t need to worry about the speed for getting back later with the CW-suns.


Quote
because i just suck royally when it comes to siteswaps, lets just say i learned the following "feed the cascade (ftc) variations)

ftc 2-3
ftc 1-2-3
ftc-1-2

How do you feed a cascade? It sounds very interesting but I don´t understand. Is this a low or high cascade?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 16, 2008, 05:12:06 AM
oh its nothing really interesting.
it's a pop-up high throw and when it comes down you just use its downward motion as the downstroke of the cascade. I'm probably over explaining.

1 up 360s!
also 2 up 360s (flukey but i got it on my first try then never again)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on July 16, 2008, 02:36:54 PM
wait so you're just throwing one ball high then catching it in juggling, or are you doing a 531 or 441, or something
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 16, 2008, 04:07:44 PM
well i was talking about the former, but i just learned how to do the latter.
just goes to show you how terrible i am with siteswaps
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on July 16, 2008, 06:51:04 PM
VERTAX GENOCIDE..... FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!
.... ;D
oh.... and vertax sun under the legs!

GO VERTAX!! yay!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on July 16, 2008, 10:01:38 PM
I think I found a new(-ish) integral and a new(-ish) ''fake'' integral :)

Probably not really new, never seen it before so new to me.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on July 16, 2008, 11:35:49 PM
Quote
oh its nothing really interesting.
it's a pop-up high throw and when it comes down you just use its downward motion as the downstroke of the cascade. I'm probably over explaining.

1 up 360s!
also 2 up 360s (flukey but i got it on my first try then never again)

Wait you were talking about balls or diabolos? If it´s diabolos any cascadevariation IS interesting.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 17, 2008, 04:48:21 AM
Since we're talking about juggling, 3 ups under eight foot awning with three balls and 4 up 360s with 4 rings.

Also a type of integral genocide, I think it would possibly lead up to a whole new unexplored area of suicides..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JimmyCords. on July 17, 2008, 07:05:49 AM
Also a type of integral genocide, I think it would possibly lead up to a whole new unexplored area of suicides..
Video? You've intruiged us too much so cough up.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 17, 2008, 07:52:42 AM
Definately not, I've only just started. When I got some goodness out of it. maybe.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 17, 2008, 01:31:03 PM
Oh i'm talking about balls.
i'm not god.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: traPACK on July 17, 2008, 03:07:46 PM
continuous fake mini genocides(i think it's right name ??? )

and first flukes of 2d thrash webs :o ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on July 17, 2008, 06:54:26 PM
i learned how to cerrect 2D.... from speed pulls. but hey, it's a start!

and starting to get infi. suicide 360!

YAY! this has been a good week so far!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on July 17, 2008, 08:00:55 PM
Continuous vortex transfers. Hopefully I will move on to a fan from here :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on July 17, 2008, 09:19:20 PM
vertax whip catch and suicide..... and combo!!
along with much more consistency with vertax genocide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: juzooboy on July 19, 2008, 07:52:02 AM
vertax suicide ... i say it vertax suicide but i dont know what is it really name...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on July 20, 2008, 11:47:48 AM
vertax suicide ... i say it vertax suicide but i dont know what is it really name...

Vertax genocide/excalibur genocide?

Me and my friend just got some vertax passing stuff down. Also I made up a 2d combo: string in hand suicide --> vortex transfer --> external sprinkler (I think) ---> suicide out.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 20, 2008, 12:56:11 PM
I just learned that its quite possible to self start 4 low. I managed to get 4 spinning but like 1 catch.
Also got around 10 catches of three in one hand.

If you haven't figured out what I'm doing..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: MonkeyseeMonkeydo on July 20, 2008, 01:18:16 PM
I just learnt a magic knot where i let go of my stick then pick it back up and release throw the knot, not too sure of the name as it was improvised but am sure it's got a name.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on July 20, 2008, 02:34:27 PM
I just learned that its quite possible to self start 4 low. I managed to get 4 spinning but like 1 catch.
Also got around 10 catches of three in one hand.
hmmm, sounds interesting, my diabolos never cooperate with me when I try 3 in one hand.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: karatepekka on July 20, 2008, 03:15:41 PM
How do you self start 4 low?? Lower from 4 high, throw-in, wrap start...or something else. Only way I could even think it's possible would be lowering from 4 high (like ofek...crazy kid). So just out of curiosity (I can't even do 3 properly) how do you do it??
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on July 20, 2008, 07:28:30 PM
you could technically hold 3 with the double armstall, pass it into one hand, then throw a 4th diabolo and start..
Will.. Wrap starts? crazy..
What about 4D hover? you need a really long string though.
MY fts and unfeed are gettin better.
 
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 20, 2008, 10:49:13 PM
double wrapped minig (I mean with 2 wraps and not 2 consecutives minig's)

also broke my record yesterday...I did 10 wrapped minig's (my old record was 8)

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on July 21, 2008, 01:24:09 AM
I'm willing to bet 3 banana lollies that Will just runs 3 in one hand and throws other one up etc, same as he starts 3
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 21, 2008, 03:13:58 AM
I'm willing to bet 3 banana lollies that Will just runs 3 in one hand and throws other one up etc, same as he starts 3

Thank God there are some people with brains. Sort of..

Al - Probably because of asynch?
For wrap starts I'd have to keep the one hand going for ages.. something I'm not quite up to yet. I'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on July 21, 2008, 04:13:44 AM
Back from the IJA, learned loads..
Backwrap sprinkler, loads of cides and cide starts, passing + vertax passing, Weird sprinkler suns, Awesome combos, body moves, and vertax body moves, + Got to watch the sharpes perform twice, and at X juggling, which was awesome.

Also got a little better at 3, still not great but getting the timing and start better.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on July 21, 2008, 04:35:34 AM
Back from the IJA, learned loads..
Backwrap sprinkler, loads of cides and cide starts, passing + vertax passing, Weird sprinkler suns, Awesome combos, body moves, and vertax body moves, + Got to watch the sharpes perform twice, and at X juggling, which was awesome.

Also got a little better at 3, still not great but getting the timing and start better.

I hate you I couldn't go to IJA -_- stupid not having ANY MONEY till like next week -- *unsatisfied with the lack of enriching clubs and meets and places to practice so nothing new to announce
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: relic on July 22, 2008, 09:58:18 AM
Finally figured out slackwhips, they're actually very easy when you know how, I just stood there and thought I wonder if it works like this and did c whip and j whip for the first time one after another and with no difficulty  8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on July 22, 2008, 01:08:51 PM
Started learning a new trick today with Will, once we get it working...it will change diaboloing forever.  Just a crazy trick...insane.



And I just dreamt of the lamest, crapper, stupidest combo I could.

Fts 1-2-1, Anti suicide, 31, fts 1-2, jwhip -> minigenocide

SHAZAM, extra lame.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on July 24, 2008, 01:47:03 PM
I decided that i need to change the fact that i suck at 2 high, so i learnt some basic siteswaps, 31 330 stuff like that.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 25, 2008, 10:05:38 PM
almost getting:

2d hand start (with both)
2d j-whip strange thing (the thing I was trying to figure out a little time ago....)

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JimmyCords. on July 26, 2008, 05:48:14 AM
Infinite Suicide-Genocide
Around 8-ish catches of 2D high. Yehaa!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 28, 2008, 10:38:34 PM
I kind of 2d swing move (not perfect yet..but it's getting better)

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on July 28, 2008, 11:20:42 PM
I just learned what I'm putting in the collab.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on July 29, 2008, 12:55:03 AM
I just learned what I'm putting in the collab.

Ditto
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on July 29, 2008, 04:11:16 AM
I just learned what I'm putting in the collab.

I still need to learn what I'm gonna put in
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 30, 2008, 03:50:31 PM
double minig

..I'm happy with it....

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Xev on July 30, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
I learned minigens a couple days ago and genocides soon afterwards. Also it's not diabolo related but I learned the yo-yo with ball juggling.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on July 30, 2008, 11:08:02 PM
thats interesting. I learned genocides first, then minigens.

curious.

i learned what i'm doing for the collab.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on July 31, 2008, 01:14:43 AM
I learned genocides first, then minigens.

So do I...

Edit 07/31- good training today...

with 1d- double minig (wrapped) (this time it's not double wrapped..it's a wrapped with 2 turns...)

double wrapped minig to wraped double minig..

some minig's to infinite combos...
this things....

it was cool..

2d- finnally getting better on 2d high...

..

12 catches with 2d high today (I know it sucks...but it's a start)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on August 02, 2008, 06:42:43 PM
3d high hand start.
And 25 catches with three clubs. And finally some advancement on 3b mills mess and shower. AND 15 catches of 4b fountain. AND (!!!) almost 5b flash!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on August 02, 2008, 06:59:37 PM
2D- around the leg and sprinklers suicide exit
some decent first attempts at 3D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on August 02, 2008, 08:20:15 PM
2D- around the leg and sprinklers suicide exit
3d richochet around the leg, and a sprinkler suicide out, in the same run.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on August 02, 2008, 08:44:43 PM
3d richochet around the leg, and a sprinkler suicide out, in the same run.

..........
SHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Robski on August 02, 2008, 09:35:42 PM
60 Otts in 3d (after almost a month, im getting it), 2d mingen, 2d high big sun. I'm getting there on 3b box.
This is my best training day so far.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on August 05, 2008, 02:38:21 PM
2D mini columns, at last, for some reason i found them very hard to get the hang of. Also i have a solidish 3D hover
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on August 05, 2008, 06:44:26 PM
I just learned how to make an "easy schmeezy lemon peezy finesse wide axle"

i'll get around to making a tutorial for it someday.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on August 05, 2008, 08:06:49 PM
I just learned to do behind the back sun  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on August 06, 2008, 03:50:20 AM
60 Otts in 3d (after almost a month, im getting it), 2d mingen, 2d high big sun. I'm getting there on 3b box.
This is my best training day so far.

1 MONTH?!

God damn.

My best is still 22 and i've been working on it a year.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on August 06, 2008, 02:35:07 PM
i just came up with a cool combo with 2D, weird slack/wrap trick that i dont know how to explaine
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on August 06, 2008, 04:56:49 PM
60 Otts in 3d (after almost a month, im getting it), 2d mingen, 2d high big sun. I'm getting there on 3b box.
This is my best training day so far.
This just makes me angry!!!! I havnt gotten past 15 ott in 5 months
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: thetemple94 on August 06, 2008, 05:02:43 PM
Make Chilli Con Carne
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: timmy on August 07, 2008, 02:21:04 AM
I've been juggling about a month and a half, best tricks I have now are:
Fire and Ice Cracker
Tomicide
Infinite Suicides
Genocide
Last 2 can be sketchy, but I get the first two almost all of the time. Total loving diabolo, cant get off the thing.
My vertax is progressing slowly, can get it in vertax for about 5 seconds or so, i've pulled of fa couple suns but normally i just get a flying diab or a huge tangle lol.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Robski on August 09, 2008, 02:23:29 PM
This just makes me angry!!!! I havnt gotten past 15 ott in 5 months



Hey, don't worry about getting it really fast, just don't give up, and it will come, I think the most important thing for me was to get down the opening, if you get that down good then the shuffle should come fast (it took me about 3 days to get it down [Tip: look at people with good shuffles, tape yourself and correct your mistakes])

On topic: pulled a 3*.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on August 12, 2008, 05:40:12 PM
Vortex, sprinklers (kinda) and Working on fans

After 4 days of very little 3D practice i got 8 catches... still working on it though.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on August 12, 2008, 10:45:05 PM

Hey, don't worry about getting it really fast, just don't give up, and it will come, I think the most important thing for me was to get down the opening, if you get that down good then the shuffle should come fast (it took me about 3 days to get it down [Tip: look at people with good shuffles, tape yourself and correct your mistakes])

On topic: pulled a 3*.

I can open just fine (assuming I'm focused), and my hands are just dumb to the shuffle which I just don't seem to be able to get =/
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Robski on August 12, 2008, 11:21:19 PM
I can open just fine (assuming I'm focused), and my hands are just dumb to the shuffle which I just don't seem to be able to get =/

What type of shuffle are you hanging on to? (I found sync much easier because when you learn the shuffle, you can start learning with both hands instead one at a time [one of the major problems I find in async])
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: sasuke_2255 on August 13, 2008, 12:42:54 AM
Mini Genocide
Vertax 360
Tomicide
Suicide
and 2d shuffle
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on August 13, 2008, 01:50:59 AM
AC fans

YAY FANs
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on August 13, 2008, 08:48:11 AM
1 MONTH?!

God damn.

My best is still 22 and i've been working on it a year.

ha my new record is 3o catchs now and still that was a fluke

Vortex, sprinklers (kinda) and Working on fans

After 4 days of very little 3D practice i got 8 catches... still working on it though.

two things you should not be working on three and 8 catchs after 4 days is suprisling good
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Squiggle on August 13, 2008, 09:21:53 AM
two things you should not be working on three and 8 catchs after 4 days is suprisling good

Why shouldn't he?

Spent some time on an integral yesterday.
A trick I had thought of doesn't work.
And some poi styled ideas I might try if I can be bothered.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on August 13, 2008, 09:53:55 AM
two things you should not be working on three and 8 catchs after 4 days is suprisling good

Why shouldn't he? I don't recall there being any rules to what someone should do with their hobbie.

I learnt what I'm doing in the collab...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on August 13, 2008, 10:41:49 AM
I just learnt that i suck at yoyo
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on August 13, 2008, 11:37:26 AM
Getting hang of 1D integrals finally. Ive got some basic tomicide to inf suicide etc. down, and, step by step, glueing together my own integrals. I also succeed in 3D low hand start every time I do it, but the shuffling part seems like needing loads of more practise.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on August 13, 2008, 02:49:28 PM
i did something i'd like for the collab
new 2d key position/web effort
nevs suicide to minigen
more slacks
some other stuff
early shifts = can't be bothered t do alot
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: thetemple94 on August 13, 2008, 05:05:56 PM
I just learnt that I'm now awesome at yo-yo and am not as interested in diabolo anymore.

Temps

P.S. Don't bother trying to hunt me out, I have changed my address.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on August 13, 2008, 10:34:34 PM
double duicide (almost perfect)
good vertax things
learning cool 2d starts
remembering old things...and mixing it up with the new stuff

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Toby on August 17, 2008, 07:41:53 PM
I just learnt that im Langerz biggest fan! (in your face temps)

Oh, and 4 ott.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ERIK da blue on August 17, 2008, 07:45:48 PM
vertax genocide (kinda)
and 3D box (42* exit)
im so happy

janion
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: greg3008 on August 17, 2008, 08:13:54 PM
The Beginning of vertax suicide
a lovely combo with one diabolo
and 10 catch in 3D shuffle ^^


GReg
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on August 21, 2008, 10:27:23 PM
I'm tired... but:

1d: - cool thing stolen from collab 2007 - kind of inverse tomicide continuos
- improving a thing.. a kind of continuos minig....but it's different...

2d: - big sun (it's so easy...I forgot to learn this a little time ago..)
- improving high (9 catches... hahahhahaha... )

just a question... if I'm on 2d high.... 4441 is the same of 441 or 41???????

..thanks
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sean on August 21, 2008, 11:02:40 PM
just a question... if I'm on 2d high.... 4441 is the same of 441 or 41?
If you're talking about throwing one higher and doing a sun with the other, it would be 31.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on August 21, 2008, 11:38:32 PM
exactly what I'm talking...

but it is correct talk about a "high sequence" like that:

313331331331333331....kind like this..

???

[I remembered how difficult is to clean a dirty - I mean really dirt - henry's circus...]
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on August 21, 2008, 11:57:34 PM
but it is correct talk about a "high sequence" like that:

313331331331333331....kind like this..

If you're only talking about 2 diabolos, then the 333 is impossible because you don't have a third diabolo. More likely it would be: 31330330330330222231

Play around with Priam's siteswap simulator (http://www.artofdiabolo.com/dsss/dsss.php) and you'll find some nice 2high swaps to play with. Plug the swap I wrote and try to plug the swap you wrote and you'll begin to see what the numbers mean.

-Duncan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Baghead on August 22, 2008, 12:20:51 AM
love myself!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on August 22, 2008, 01:09:36 AM
thanks Duncan!
now I understand it...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fasilevi on August 22, 2008, 01:25:48 AM
3d richochet around the leg, and a sprinkler suicide out, in the same run.
what in the world is that? 3d richochet? never heard of it.

just learnt bloodyklowns integral  :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on August 22, 2008, 10:53:44 PM
Some dem amazin 2d suicide combo's
AND FINALLY GOT MY FEED THE SUNS DOWN!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on August 23, 2008, 02:40:03 AM
I just learnt that i suck at yoyo

Funny, im starting to get kinda good at yoyoing!
After a couple days i got like 10 tricks!

Quote
two things you should not be working on three and 8 catchs after 4 days is suprisling good

well i havent really practiced much more 3D, but i bumped my record to 9 catches, 3 revolutions!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on August 24, 2008, 01:10:08 AM
Kentegral
And a new PB of 4 ott's
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on August 24, 2008, 08:06:17 AM
Kentegral
You've captured my interests.
Also a 2d integral with a pirouette mashed in. Very ugly though.  :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Myke on August 25, 2008, 11:13:16 PM
My first genocide today!! :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on August 26, 2008, 07:50:01 AM
fan 180 bu not even close with fan 360
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: flep on August 26, 2008, 11:22:36 AM
my continuous transfers improve :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on August 26, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
a variation on the continuous mini gs (the one where you swap sticks)
expanding some slack ideas

love myself!
you really shouldn't, your a terrible person
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: willzB on August 27, 2008, 04:27:08 PM
finally worked out tomicides:) i know its a bit basic, but i kept tangling it up when i went to slide my hand to get to the right stick.
now its fine:)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: GuiZ on August 27, 2008, 06:18:08 PM
2D Anti start  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Baghead on August 28, 2008, 12:48:55 AM
you really shouldn't, your a terrible person
BAN!

I've learnt to hate myself again, thanks Funty.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mykill on August 28, 2008, 01:34:18 AM
2D rocket start and ac-fan  ;) ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: tommyt101 on August 28, 2008, 12:35:35 PM
I just learnt how to J-Whip! I can now under and over whip amd i am so pround! Can anyone send me videos of slack tricks please?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on August 28, 2008, 02:47:48 PM
I just learnt how to J-Whip! I can now under and over whip amd i am so pround! Can anyone send me videos of slack tricks please?  ;D ;D ;D

I thought someone had hacked the messiah's account for a second.  As powerless as we are to stop you from using Nev's avatar it would be a lot less confusing if you picked another picture.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sean on August 28, 2008, 02:54:27 PM
As powerless as we are to stop you from using Nev's avatar...
We're not that powerless. ;)  Done.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Athena on August 28, 2008, 04:24:57 PM
After spending about half a year trying to get Vertax (or Exablibur) right, all of sudden I manage to do it perfectly ;D 

but with no time left to practise.....  :-\
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on August 28, 2008, 06:24:54 PM
approximately 2 hours (or 1 and a half) of vertax training
I'm tired but I learned the sharpe's leg thing..

the one where the diabolo pass between the legs... I still have to improve it (I'm doing with a floor bounce) but it's really cool..

next step: do it continuous..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Baghead on August 28, 2008, 08:24:08 PM
After spending about half a year trying to get Vertax (or Exablibur) right, all of sudden I manage to do it perfectly ;D 

but with no time left to practise.....  :-\

Maybe if you used a diabolo that wasnt a soppy poop rag of a thing, you would be able to learn it faster
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on August 29, 2008, 07:48:18 PM
I had good progress this week...but since school started again my mind is too cluttered up with homework to actually remember everything that was learnt :P.

3D: Have started to get better hang of hover start but still can´t really do it. Got the exit with the stopover from double handstall. Continous 42. Getting better at bounced accelration. Getting better at very hard left handed async.

2D:

Got 2D fts variations with pirouette and double sun, double jumps with crossed hands in normal side-side suns, the half sun to knot to grab to rethrow (don´t know the real name and it may have been mentioned before) + an extension of that into a slowcide with pirouettes back into 2D. 2D variation of "steam engine". New 2D knot but only an easy one. Elevator start and two different slowcidestarts (frontside and backside).

1D. 5 ropeskips under 1 high (new PB with approx 5-6 m ceiling). More stringsuicides inspired from yoyo. One easy stickswitchtrick as an extension from those. Excalibur neckstall into BTB "locked throatstall" (my own trick and kind of impossible to explain properly without a video). Left handed stickstall-right handed stickstall + can alternate them fairly smooth.
Excalibur "swinging" (was inspired by a poitrick and also hard to explain in writing) and variations of it. Triple genocide. Left stick gyro grind-crossed hand whip-left hand geno (from one of the MHD guys). Right hand gyro to whip into normal position. One round the body variation in excalibur (still a work in progress though, have only been "close" to pulling it, not really pulled it yet so far).

Can now also do both the half and normal integral in the same combo. This may actually not seem hard if you just do one variation or if you´re good at integrals, but it feels really "weird in the brain" (proper english?) for me to do them after eachother because the feel and timing of the trick does become very different.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on August 30, 2008, 05:31:04 PM
Achieved today (no diabolo) :
3b shower 10 otts..
3b windmill
3b factory a little
3b 441 now continous

I know those are just basic tricks, but i'm no pro.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Robski on August 30, 2008, 08:32:15 PM
3d sun to armstall to hover.
3d shuffle back to hover.

Nice training day overall  8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Xev on September 01, 2008, 02:13:10 AM
2D shuffling skill acquired :)
Now on to correcting...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on September 01, 2008, 10:40:08 AM
Mini columns, happy days!

4 ott!!!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on September 01, 2008, 01:45:02 PM
Sprinkler suns in front of arms to behind the arms and some more cross string sprinkler suicides and exits.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Duncan on September 01, 2008, 01:48:25 PM
3 high kind of works now, so I learned I can run 3 high under a gym roof that I thought would be too low to try.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on September 01, 2008, 02:07:10 PM
Different 2d suns and shiz. What a productive day!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pietvansteen on September 03, 2008, 10:20:18 PM
I just learned to do a Triple Sprinkler, you can watch it here:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=3LFwu7BI8WU (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=3LFwu7BI8WU)

Thank you!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mykill on September 03, 2008, 10:32:51 PM
^^NICE JOB
i learned a solid sprinkler and fan  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pietvansteen on September 04, 2008, 04:33:53 PM
I also find out this trick by myself !

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=VIXAZ7gs8Gc (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=VIXAZ7gs8Gc)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Wannes on September 04, 2008, 04:50:46 PM
I learnt a fan yesterday ! ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pietvansteen on September 04, 2008, 05:37:13 PM
I want to learn the fan!! I try and try but i can't   :'( so i keep trying and maby at some day finally i can do the fan !!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on September 04, 2008, 06:36:41 PM
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so i keep trying and maby at some day finally i can do the fan !!

I hope it works for me too...

hahahahha

2d: solid mini-columns - ping-pong - anti-shuffle things..

--> started to learn with 3d today!!
(wish me luck!)

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on September 05, 2008, 10:36:03 AM
I just found out that transfers are much more fun and use than I realised. DUH!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on September 05, 2008, 11:18:47 AM
FTET
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Janey on September 05, 2008, 12:01:08 PM
i learned vertax minigenocide :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on September 05, 2008, 08:03:37 PM
..learning 3d low..

- and 80 continuous wrapped minig in a row today...
(very easy now!!)

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Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on September 05, 2008, 08:36:53 PM
c fan
c fan to sprinkler (kinda like s fan hyperloop)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on September 06, 2008, 03:04:41 AM
I disagree. The hyperloop needs a swing to get into. I believe Finni manages it?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on September 06, 2008, 11:40:04 AM
william lin does. every time.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on September 06, 2008, 04:42:42 PM
FTET

slanderous filth

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on September 06, 2008, 04:56:03 PM
the basic idea is still the same, though.
a fan to sprinkler. Hyperloop is alot cooler looking.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on September 08, 2008, 01:48:34 PM
slanderous filth

lz

more like incompetent skillz
i will call it FTET 3 since the first two are taken

Db
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: flep on September 08, 2008, 01:51:26 PM
no improvements in terms of diabolo, but I restarted juggling 2 days ago and finally I have a solid 3ball cascade
I know it's not that much, but I'm not talentaed at all :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Myke on September 08, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
no improvements in terms of diabolo, but I restarted juggling 2 days ago and finally I have a solid 3ball cascade
I know it's not that much, but I'm not talentaed at all :P
Sure you are, at least you don't drop them (:
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: flep on September 08, 2008, 08:04:03 PM
thanks, but there are people that can do a solid cascade after one hour of practise, that's what I call talented^^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on September 08, 2008, 10:11:31 PM
a kind of infinite suicide "slowcide"
I don't now how to describe that..
but it's a good trick, I was trying to figure it out a little time ago..
almost there to get it solid now...

and learning another infinite suicide trick....just the exit where you do the magic knot but after you get the stick it makes one more turn in the diabolo...soh you'l have open string with both sticks in right hand...

I think is it..

..

;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on September 08, 2008, 11:27:02 PM
i just learned that trapeze to infinite suicide integral from LCAB.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on September 09, 2008, 01:28:09 AM
Vertax genocide- hand switch integral- Vertax mini-gen.

Also Vortex suicide loop to 2d integral thing- Not solid.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: sasuke_2255 on September 09, 2008, 09:11:56 PM
Vertax genocide!!!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on September 09, 2008, 11:05:41 PM
Managed some very short messy runs of 3 high. Its getting there, im just not throwing them far enough to my right, so i end up running left.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: logoman04 on September 10, 2008, 01:06:17 AM
to ride my unicycle. and some improvements on most other things
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on September 10, 2008, 06:11:40 PM
Awesome 2d high tricks:
2up pirouette
31 with left sun
31 with back sun (close to solid)
Almost 330
And getting there on 3d high  :D

8 catches of 3 clubs mills mess, 27 rounds of 3b mills mess
4 continous doubles with 3 clubs

Also a very lucky 2d antisprinkler fluke, cant say I really "learnt" it.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pietvansteen on September 11, 2008, 07:32:36 PM
Finally I can do the Excalibur genocide :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: sasuke_2255 on September 11, 2008, 11:22:56 PM
Finally I can do the Excalibur genocide :D

I just learnt it to :). Im trying to get more consistant with them now.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on September 12, 2008, 12:11:18 AM
Vertax kicks =)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on September 12, 2008, 02:46:12 AM
Jake has taught you something then..

Five 3d suns in one run.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on September 12, 2008, 04:50:50 AM
erics integral with long string!
funkey-licious.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on September 12, 2008, 12:50:30 PM
FTET 3.1 and FTET 3.2
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: traPACK on September 12, 2008, 01:17:54 PM
what's FTET?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on September 12, 2008, 04:08:35 PM
Forget The Entire Thing

it is rubbish.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on September 12, 2008, 05:31:19 PM
Forget The Entire Thing

it is rubbish.

once you can do it your entitled to an opinion. besides FTET2 is quite clearly superior.

thats right i went there....... besides, never badmouth a trick straight from the messiahs brain

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ERIK da blue on September 12, 2008, 06:10:57 PM
feed the sun 2-3!!!!!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Folkert on September 12, 2008, 06:41:00 PM
The other day i got 7 catches after a 3high, 2up sun, and a couple of minutes ago I was 1 catch off of a 3high pirouette. They were both a bit flukey but it's the best I've done. ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on September 12, 2008, 07:33:21 PM
From this weeks practice (so far ;)):

1D:

6 jumpropes under 1 hightoss (broke PB with 1)

excalibur two-handed whip into normal position (could already do the X-hand whip)

BTB and BTH excalibur grindcombinations

Better pirouettegrind

Better CW pirouettes

A few knottricks

Accelration with continous 180CW turns

The entire "standard" Taiwanese legcombo with crossed strings

Antonins "infinite" genocides (the easy ones with single rotation)

2D:

Armstall to crosshanded exit (don´t know the name, William did it in his routine at the british WJF)

Sun-knot-grab-rethrow on 1-count

Sun-knot-grab-duicide the sticks + rethrow (got this trick from a japanese guy will write his name when I remember it. Sun-knot-grab I don´t know the real name for this either ???, it´s where you do a CW sun to a knot then grab the diabolo and throw it back again)

Sprinkler- 180-180 suicide with one-handed exit (could do it before but only with two-handed exit)

Imroved style on rolloutsun

BTB knotstall-BTB transfers

Sprinkler to a weird stall/stop (I don´t know the name, Makky did it in his 03 routine).

Sprinkler to crossed stop to a "cheated" exit (inspired by the above trick)

Sprinkler-grindstop

Alternating suns with double jumps before the suns (sounds easy but was hard for me to learn)

Williams 2D start

Left sprinkler-neckstall from a knot

Frontwrap-stickstall-sprinkler (also got this from Makkys routine)

Makkys fan combo with backhand hit (have had it for a while but improved it and incorporated Williams kneeling poses into it).

3D:

Nothing new...

4D:... :P

^Probably learnt some more I can´t remember atm too, it has really been a great week with the lower numbers at least.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on September 12, 2008, 10:22:46 PM
once you can do it your entitled to an opinion. besides FTET2 is quite clearly superior.

thats right i went there....... besides, never badmouth a trick straight from the messiahs brain

lz

The reason why i don't like it is because i can't do it.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on September 12, 2008, 10:29:07 PM
Jake has taught you something then..

Five 3d suns in one run.

Yeah i'm working on vertax foot juggling with my bearing now...So far i've only gotten 3 kicks, but almost got 4 yesterday
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on September 12, 2008, 11:22:11 PM
The reason why i don't like it is because i can't do it.

Mwahahahaha - finally - something you "can't" do - I expect you'll have it by next week though.

Interested to know what 3.0 was (let alone .1 &.2)?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on September 13, 2008, 02:31:32 AM
continuous right hand j-whip to left left wrap wrapped mini-g!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on September 13, 2008, 02:35:23 AM
I generally like to see a video with FTET. I understand the theory.. But the practical evades me.
Managed to "throw" the slack around at catch it again. Diabolo term? I believe the yoyo term is string suicide?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on September 17, 2008, 08:16:40 AM
Reverse J-whip (name anyone, it´s the one that becomes a stopover ???) on both hands.

Propeller-slowcide start.

A new "web"-looking knot.

More legcombos.

Stringsuicide-eiffeltower.

Optimal turns on the inf. unwrapped suicide walk around (can turn on every step now).

Under the leg feed from inf. unwrapped geno-suicide (from "Benny" and Wen).

Behind the arm 2D stall (don´t know the real trickname).

Crossed arm shuffle from a double inverse knot.

Left sprinklerstop to reverse sprinkler (but I can´t actually do the reverse sprinkler yet so it always fail within a few seconds :P).

Left sprinklerstall.

Williams 2D start quite solid + pirouettevariation added onto it.

RH genocide 2D start (from already spinning 1D, not rolling).

2D 1 1/2 sprinkler suicide to handwrap knot (2D version of the 1D trick, I have no idea about the real name for this either).

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I generally like to see a video with FTET. I understand the theory.. But the practical evades me.
Managed to "throw" the slack around at catch it again. Diabolo term? I believe the yoyo term is string suicide?

What does FTET even stand for (feed the eternal transfer or something ???)? Would also like to see a video.

@William:

I use the term stringsuicide too, this is wrong?




Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Wannes on September 17, 2008, 12:10:57 PM
Wow very nice!

I only learnt some new excalibur tricks :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on September 17, 2008, 02:52:26 PM
Some fancy new base-stick slack integral ending with all sorts of possibilities (even has a string suicide in amongst it all).
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Lily on September 17, 2008, 06:14:02 PM
1d: J-whip to whip
j-whip to integral
j-whip to double stopover or whatever is called.(aiming under axle)
right Infitive suicide to right hand-wrapped infitive suicide.
Another cheapy-fancy slackwhip weby-thingy with j-whips, some hands involved, i can't even describe it.
Proper infitive slowcides combos.(Until now, i was missing sticks due to my habit catching the string)
left backside to right mino-geno to left-wrap mini geno to right mini-geno.

2D:
Transfers, short, long,armtrap.
The trick with both right and left stopover above sticks william showed on collaboration 2007.
very few mini columns.
right external sprinkler with internal's exit followed with sun to untangle.(Kind of rubbish, anyway)

Vertax:
At last, infinitive suicide. Not many circles though, my string is long and i am getting exhausted soon. It look solid-ish :)


Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Slim_THK on September 17, 2008, 06:33:24 PM
hi i just learnt to 2d feed the sun and 2d S-fan and N-fan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on September 17, 2008, 09:52:23 PM
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hi i just learnt to 2d feed the sun and 2d S-fan

my favorite tricks with 2d.....and I don't know it...  :'(

..

learnt ond eiffel tower with 2 diabolos..

and a cool vertax stopover sun theory (I can't do it yet...)

almost figuring out anti-suicide...

;)

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on September 18, 2008, 02:52:51 AM
2d corrections!...i have been trying to perfect my corrections, consider it done
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on September 18, 2008, 04:03:29 PM
I just learnt that vertax is EVIL!! Just took a highly spun sundia fly to my nose/under my eye, thats cut my face up a lil bit..........and then somehow, i shoved one of my sticks into the corner of my eye, im in alot of pain right now.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Niclas on September 20, 2008, 04:01:17 PM
Stickfan
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mykill on September 20, 2008, 04:05:38 PM
vortex, or transfers
w/e they're called :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on September 21, 2008, 03:24:37 AM
2d anti-suicide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on September 21, 2008, 06:46:09 AM
Vertax genocide blindfolded*.

* By blindfold I mean a hoodie on backwards.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on September 21, 2008, 10:14:38 AM
Blindfolds are for wimps, get a bag on your head sir! If you think you could handle a bag!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on September 21, 2008, 10:39:40 AM
Hood on backwards! Its damn close. Bags are hard for breathing
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ERIK da blue on September 21, 2008, 05:50:15 PM
feed the sun 2-2-3 to double arm stall.
(performed at brizzle during the games)

janion
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Akse on September 24, 2008, 02:35:14 PM
Some messy suicide thing ???
Don´t know could I do it again so I actually didn´t learn it...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: RedRightHand on September 25, 2008, 12:50:13 AM
Mini Genocides!!!

Just got my first decent diabolo yesterday (Finesse G3, MB xtreme sitcks, henry's yellow string).This morning  i started to be able to do the minigens catching the stick after 2 wraps. Now i can catch cleanly after one wrap. :)


EDIT: Spelling
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on September 25, 2008, 10:33:49 AM
Slack to crossed eiffel and slack-stringsuicide-"diamond" (the string makes a diamondlooking shape)-eiffel released into backwrap.

^Quite Langerz-looking stuff...if you take away all the speed, precision and difficulty :P.

Might as well edit this post:

todays practice got integral to immediate mini-geno (not at all my style of trick yet it became solid and smooth instantely). Strange it worked att all since I can´t normally do normal continous mini-genos properly.

Dis-integral (I got the name from the english word "disintegrate" and thought the name fit nicely). It is a double integral that just disappears into nothing and it can probably be a very nice trick to extend combos since you wind up in open string from swinging the stick in the integralmotion. This means you can swing the stick one extra rotation in any way you want and get a back or frontside, crossed sticks etc. depending on what trick you want next. Since nobody ever understands my explanations though :P I wont bother with textexplanation.

Box to 522 Vortex exit. Inspired from the armstalltrick from the TND guys.

Slightly better hoverstart (can keep the shuffle for a few rotations but no real control at all)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on September 28, 2008, 05:03:53 AM
^Quite Langerz-looking stuff...if you take away all the speed, precision and difficulty :P.
well i just learned my first slackwhip! take that langerz, oh yah lamecide too<--picture!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Conor on September 28, 2008, 08:45:10 AM
 there are so many lamicides. not just the one!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on September 28, 2008, 10:31:50 AM
1d mach five concept-ish thingy
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on September 28, 2008, 04:25:58 PM
2d: vortex to right trapeze (the easiest way to do a right trapeze with 2d for me...)

..

EDIT: today I've learned a cool leg combo with 1d (I don't like bodies very much but this one is very cool..I don't remember certainly but I think I saw this on the last martkin video...)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on September 30, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
Just invented a really nicelooking (and "long") integral on practice today. Definitely one of the best tricks I´ve ever come up with on my own and combines well with movement to become stageworthy. It has 2 stops between sequences which allows you to work the audience. Added some smooth bodymovement and poses to it as well. Anyone got a nameidea without actually having seen it ;D? It´s funny because (in terms of integrals at least) it is so easy to do it´s "childsplay".

Also learnt elevator to frontsidesuicide from Williams Schlager act at the BJC.

Much better hoverstart (OK still can´t actually make it work properly but can drive the shuffle in it a lot longer when the third diab is in wrap)

180 turns both ways during accelrations.

441 better

Inverse trapeze Mach 5

Slack to stopover on both sides smoothly

Stringsuicide to handlecatch (can´t get out of it properly so it´s pretty much useless atm :P)

More stringsuicides that can´t be described in text

Excalibur-necksequence

Right stick gyro- two handed whip- normal position.

Left stick gyro - two handed whip - crossed position - left hand geno.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on September 30, 2008, 03:36:12 PM
@Diabolo88: maybe a video for the integral?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 01, 2008, 03:27:21 PM
2 Bloodyclown integrals  :) The mini-gen one and the infinate suicide genocide one.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on October 01, 2008, 05:00:55 PM
@diabolo dodson: have you got some tips for the inf. suic. genocide one?
I'm still struggling with that one...... ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 01, 2008, 05:20:12 PM
@diabolo dodson: have you got some tips for the inf. suic. genocide one?
I'm still struggling with that one...... ::)
Yes. Theres an easier way of doing the integral, i suggest learning that first, then try it with the genocide. Ill try to explain

Get yourself onto a wrapped left backside (i do this through magic knots)
Release as if you were gonna do a wrapped mini-gen, but instead doing a mini gen, put your hand underneath the string and lift up.
The diabolo should release, jump the gap and wrap around the other stick, then catch and go into infinite suicide.
Watch the slow motion part of this video to get the integral. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cHSKUbIEfVA

Once you can do the integral, try it from the inf gen.

I hope thats clear enough. If not i may make a video.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Olive on October 01, 2008, 05:27:47 PM
Thanks Dodson, I think that may help a few of my problems/ideas too!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on October 02, 2008, 08:24:14 AM
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@Diabolo88: maybe a video for the integral?

At some point I will film it yes, however this particular one I really like so maybe would like to save it for a longer vid sometime in the future ;)


Yesterdaynight got inf. mini genos (suddenly "clicked" in the head finally after years of not being able to do them at all :P)

Knots to immediate stopovers both normal and crossed (from Langerz)

Inf. suicide to front geno exit

Excalibur one handed stickstall

New slackcombo from a stopover

Exit on the righthanded unwrapped inf. suicide

Hoverstart (the complete one with a controlled 2D shuffle and start to 3D)

^Very happy about my progress-streak the last couple of weeks, have learnt at least one new trick or more each day.

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Once you can do the integral, try it from the inf gen.

I hope thats clear enough. If not i may make a video.

Can´t wait to get home and try this trick, thanks for the tips.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: sakar on October 02, 2008, 05:18:47 PM
I learned today 2d sprinkler suicide now i want learn double sprinkler suicide.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on October 02, 2008, 06:45:31 PM
I just dislearned the chinese whip.... ( I quit for a while )

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on October 02, 2008, 07:17:39 PM
2d sprinkler to grindsteal to antisprinkler(?) or transfer exit
- and -
5 and 6 clubs passing with my friend

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on October 02, 2008, 11:43:48 PM
2d suicide...finally!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 03, 2008, 10:20:21 AM
Double sprinkler suicide pirouette thingy, a weird integral that ive only managed to make work a few times, the other times i just get a tangled mess :-\ im not quite sure how it works yet, its weird. 3D is getting slightly better, got bored of attempting the shuffle so i tried and landed a few sun to armstalls, cant get back to shuffle tho.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Janey on October 03, 2008, 11:33:05 AM
triple sprinkler with suicide out^^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 03, 2008, 04:34:55 PM
just a vertax fingerstall thing..

..

EDIT: and trash's web too..
I don't know why so late...it's very easy..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: allsoppy5 on October 04, 2008, 10:36:53 PM
Trash web,
Eiffel tower,
arm stall transfers thingy,
club passing,
Vertax under the leg dodgy spinny round thing (very accurates description)
and more stuff which i have alredy forgotten!  ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on October 05, 2008, 06:28:45 AM
A very shaky 333356[11][2][3]3333333333 Drop
I love siteswaps.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: thetemple94 on October 05, 2008, 08:50:21 AM
Whippy thing into a cradle. Yo-yo inspired of course.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on October 05, 2008, 10:51:27 AM
Dis-integral (I got the name from the english word "disintegrate" and thought the name fit nicely). It is a double integral that just disappears into nothing and it can probably be a very nice trick to extend combos since you wind up in open string from swinging the stick in the integralmotion. This means you can swing the stick one extra rotation in any way you want and get a back or frontside, crossed sticks etc. depending on what trick you want next. Since nobody ever understands my explanations though :P I wont bother with textexplanation.

I understand you.  ;) Its not a bad trick, but I haven't come up with much from it. Nice name idea.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on October 05, 2008, 11:40:10 AM
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I understand you.   Its not a bad trick, but I haven't come up with much from it. Nice name idea.

Hey thanks Will, was happy with that name myself haha. I can connect it to a normal Erics integral by catching the string so on it´s own it´s maybe no good but it works well in combos.

Yesterdays practice got:

Excaliburgunslinger (thanks again Will ;)).

Lengthened (and shortened) version of the integral learnt last week. It is the first almost infinite integral I know, it´s seemingly possible to swing the sticks forever until the speed of the diabolo dies out (managed 8 swings-16 stickrotations-on a Sun diabolo).

Antonins arm-integral. Thank you Florian, the EJC08 video is the first vid where that trick could be so easily seen.

Whip-double duicide-BTB catch (with pirouettevariation also)

Unwrapped inf. suicide 1D-start

Right hand inf. unwrapped suicide-BTB released double duicide (from Ryo Yabe).

Excalibur onehanded-lock/stall

Excalibur onehandlock to poi with the other stick too (what the tricks are actually called= ???. Don´t normally do poi)

^OHL to excalibur knot.

OHL to normal.

OHL connected to anything really ;).

Random tricks (mostly poi-inspired and knots) in normal position inspired by OHL

Contact diabolostuff and sticktrapvariations.

2D steam engine (amazingly stupid trick :P).

2D foot elevatorstart.

2D doubleknot to crosshanded shuffle (can´t drive the shuffle well or exit it properly crosshanded though).

Feed the fan 411 (back, shoulder and side-side variation).

5 jumpropes under 1 high (same as PB but inside this time so have about 7m ceiling to work with).

Lamecide gyroflop.

New Eiffeltower that releases into a deadpoint (so currently can´t use it).

Web inspired slackknot (basically it looks like a web but the diab is inside the first V of the W) and suicides based from it.

Overarm-sunlooking pirouthing (from Trespace).

Stickfan (not difficult but didn´t figure it out when Raphaels video was released).

Green triangle suicide variations.

Pendulum (combination of a propeller and slowcide so the stick swings back and forth from a hanging position).

Indexfingerslack to stringsuicide (thank you Langerz for inspiration on that).

Onehanded suns to "handseparation" and back (proper name? It´s the one from the MHD guys).

^Still having good progress on every practice atm, don´t know why exactly but credit the forum immensely for it so thank you everyone ;D.

Edit:

Got a cold so no real practice today. So far I learnt a few new slackcombos that doesn´t require much work:

One where you first slack onto your index finger and then pull out to get a slackloop, take both sticks in the right and throw to crosshand catch to first a heartshape, then jump out to an eiffel tower with crossed hands, then jump it again to get into a green triangle looking thing, the jump out of that to get into a whipposition (or alternatively a knot). This combo is pretty cool imho, but possibly difficult if you get twists on the string.

Slack-"romb" (romb is swedish word for a shape, I don´t know the english word). It´s almost like a green triangle but entirely open.

New entry for the Dis-integral (inspired by a PM from Beni so thank you Beni).

Whipposition-sun-duicide/suicide/double duicide (from Mattias Jönsson from Sweden, difficult to explain in text)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 05, 2008, 01:50:42 PM
Fan 360 over the head thingy.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on October 06, 2008, 04:47:37 PM
I learned 2d corrections  ;D AND I'M PROUD OF IT! woooow
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on October 07, 2008, 12:06:03 AM
I learned 2d corrections  ;D AND I'M PROUD OF IT! woooow
thats awesome, i just got my sprinkler and 2d left sun down  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Veren on October 07, 2008, 03:55:38 AM
Learned: Stop-over suicide, getting into backside.  ;D  GOtta start somewhere, right?  :)

Still banging head against wall with: Chinese whips/snaps, orbital acceleration.

Big thank yous to the Mad French Posse (for the Diabology DVD) and Tim Ellis (for the Ultimate Diabolo DVD).  Both are great for learning and very inspirational.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on October 07, 2008, 01:47:48 PM
Bloodyclowns integral, not smooth or solid every time but it works ;D.

Double duicide with pirou to BTB-catch. <From whip ofcourse.

Practicing releases from both hands for the double duicide.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 07, 2008, 06:52:44 PM
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Bloodyclowns integral, not smooth or solid every time but it works ;D.

Double duicide with pirou to BTB-catch.

the first one is awesome...I'm trying to learn it too..

the second: I have no words..
amazing!!

-- I'm without time for training... too bad..

[any tips for 2d left suns - the most traditional one - I don't know why but I always finish the trick with a left wrap in one diabolo....

?????]
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Sean on October 07, 2008, 07:03:08 PM
[any tips for 2d left suns - the most traditional one - I don't know why but I always finish the trick with a left wrap in one diabolo....
The second diabolo isn't making it through your arms. Watch that second diabolo carefully.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on October 08, 2008, 04:38:04 PM
I just learned a trick myself! But I don't know if it has a name or already exist but anyways.. I will explain it and could someone tell me what kind of trick it is? I have no idea..

Ok I do a normal mini genocide with a left backside ( no wrapped mini gens but the basic one ) When I pinched the string and I catch the diabolo I release my left handstick and I catch the right handstick. When I did this I make another mini gen ( With this one I mean like a minigen from out of a backside )

I hope you can follow it and tell me what I just learned! I'm really proud of it cozz it looks so cool!  ;D Tnx!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Wannes on October 08, 2008, 04:45:51 PM
Finally did excalibur genocide + fan 180 ! xD  ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 08, 2008, 05:30:06 PM
Today i learnt, that i cant do vertax genocides anymore, not long ago i had normal, btb, double and triple solid. Now i cant even do the normal one. I cant really be bothered to relearn either, i have much more interesting things to work on lol
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 08, 2008, 10:36:03 PM
Diabolo Dodson: trust me... I tought this way in the past....but now I'm really happy with the new vertax things that I'm learning....don't give up the vertax style...

Thanks for the tip Sean...I'll try to watch it better later...  I need more time for my trainings...

(School can be a big problem..)

--- I'm really happy with one thing:

I have figured out my first Bloodyclown today...

just one...but is an AWESOME trick....

;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on October 09, 2008, 02:04:40 AM
I just learned a trick myself! But I don't know if it has a name or already exist but anyways.. I will explain it and could someone tell me what kind of trick it is? I have no idea..

Ok I do a normal mini genocide with a left backside ( no wrapped mini gens but the basic one ) When I pinched the string and I catch the diabolo I release my left handstick and I catch the right handstick. When I did this I make another mini gen ( With this one I mean like a minigen from out of a backside )

I hope you can follow it and tell me what I just learned! I'm really proud of it cozz it looks so cool!  ;D Tnx!

http://www.juggling.tv/vaults/view_video.php?viewkey=34354ac209f53d90c3a4 (http://www.juggling.tv/vaults/view_video.php?viewkey=34354ac209f53d90c3a4)

Like that?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on October 09, 2008, 02:37:13 PM
I just learnt that teaching 5-12 year olds to juggle is a stressful job. The last three days I've been hosting a juggling spot on a local circus event. Six hours a day with a couple of 10 minute breaks plus a lunch break. Sigh..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on October 09, 2008, 06:08:58 PM
http://www.juggling.tv/vaults/view_video.php?viewkey=34354ac209f53d90c3a4 (http://www.juggling.tv/vaults/view_video.php?viewkey=34354ac209f53d90c3a4)

Like that?

Nope.. It goes out of this mini genocide http://www.circuspla.net/diabolo/video/1d/genocides/minigenocide.mpg
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 09, 2008, 10:46:11 PM
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I just learnt that teaching 5-12 year olds to juggle is a stressful job.

I don't think it...
me and my friend teach here in Brazil, in our school.
we still have just one group, with 7 childrens, I like to do it...

--->

well..
today I have learned right sprinklers...
little training time this week...but I'm figuring out cool things..

3 blodyclowns today (now continuous yet..relax...)
-- gettin' better on it...

..


Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fasilevi on October 11, 2008, 04:49:11 AM
antonins arm integral, not as hard as i thought, i like it with infinite suicide combos :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Wannes on October 11, 2008, 10:42:50 AM
Can anybody send the link of the vid with that integral ?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: TheDutchMan on October 11, 2008, 11:56:36 PM
SLACKS!!!

Just as I thought they were actually physically impossible and that everyone else was actually cheating them, I have managed to do a grand total of THREE!!!

and now my hand is sore =(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on October 13, 2008, 03:59:26 PM
SLACKS!!!

Just as I thought they were actually physically impossible and that everyone else was actually cheating them, I have managed to do a grand total of THREE!!!

and now my hand is sore =(

i'd get some icy hot for your hand, but on the topic of slacks i can now do trash's web consistantly. and i am getting WAY closer with mini columns, vortex's and fans... ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: kizzyontay52 on October 13, 2008, 07:15:36 PM
just learned trap door, as performed by langerz. great trick, i want to learn more of his stuff.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: S@RuMaN on October 15, 2008, 06:08:14 PM
I've just learnt 2d langerz eiffel, 2d minigenocide and 1d continous minigenocides...now I am going to learn 2d S-fan swinging
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Wannes on October 15, 2008, 07:25:15 PM
Excalibur genocide BTB xD
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: albertt on October 15, 2008, 09:22:21 PM
Nicer antisuicides.  :D It's a very good looking trick after vortex suicides.

Thanks to Sfourx.

Sorry gor my english. :-\
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: yonm13 on October 16, 2008, 01:39:48 PM
42,42*.
Better FTS 2-3
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 16, 2008, 04:49:59 PM
Ive managed to lower my 3D to a sensible sized shuffle, only most of the time it doesnt last for very long because the cups rub against the string and they all go out of line  :'( Its really irritating, but hopefully ill find a way of sorting that out. Also managed 3D sun back to shuffle today, complete fluke but still  ;D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on October 16, 2008, 09:56:44 PM
Learnt 10-20 different slackcombos and stringsuicides so far this week. Practicehall is closed because of a tennistournament so don´t have roof for much else.

Slowly starting to get 2D eiffel but the second slack in unconsistent..

Also learnt 42* inside my apartment (short string, faster start on it + kneeling while doing it 8)) 
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 16, 2008, 10:32:04 PM
still improving bloodlyclown's...
I think it's my best trick with 1d.
Trying to learn 3d too (worst with wrap start, but not so bad with hand start).

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on October 17, 2008, 08:22:53 PM
Two new slacks and one new S-suicide to some weird web-like stall.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 17, 2008, 11:10:08 PM
S-suicide???
what's it???

learned 2d wrapped minig...
3d is coming!!
3 ott today... hahahaha  :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Wannes on October 18, 2008, 12:37:19 PM
Just learned new excalibur start.  :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fasilevi on October 18, 2008, 11:29:48 PM
S-suicide???
what's it???

S-suicide = string suicide,

qualified twice 2-3-2-3 sun today :D 
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 19, 2008, 03:42:44 AM
I'm not sure that I understand how it works..
..but thats ok..
..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 19, 2008, 07:23:43 PM
3D got loads better today, i have 20 ott solid, i get 30 ott quite alot and i managed to get 42 ott twice =] its feeling alot more controlled. I hope im nearly there, cause its been way to long.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Robski on October 19, 2008, 07:53:02 PM
Alternating C-fans.
2d duicide out of double sprinkler.
A bit of BTB fan.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on October 20, 2008, 12:34:01 PM
Some more no spin catches and traps.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on October 20, 2008, 01:04:10 PM
[a good response to some posts that were deleted] -Sean
Kids, keep it to the thread in question.  Your argument is flawed, I can elaborate in the relevant thread if you so wish but leave the other boards free of your rants.

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on October 21, 2008, 02:36:39 PM
Finally got multiple anti-suicides. Now I feel dumb.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on October 22, 2008, 11:38:50 AM
2d gyro flop and the double version
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: flep on October 22, 2008, 03:48:32 PM
hit my face doing a fan, and yes, it hurt^^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: kizzyontay52 on October 22, 2008, 08:35:33 PM
did a couple gyro flops, trash n web and a new slack whip i believe i have invented!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 22, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
1d: an old start that I forgot - kind like mini g start

improving a giant-tomicide-thing
trying to figure out a kind of tomicide to infinite suicide (with right wrap)

2d: a kind of vortex suicide, but after the vortex, like a antisuicide

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on October 22, 2008, 09:32:05 PM
improving a giant-tomicide-thing

by using even longer string?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Toby on October 22, 2008, 09:40:41 PM


trying to figure out a kind of tomicide to infinite suicide (with right wrap)



If you do a standard sort of integral where you swing the right stick down into the axle then release the left stick, but when you swing the right stick into the axel initally, do it on the near side of the string (under your arm as it were). that will end in a right wrap but its a little tricky to get smooth!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on October 23, 2008, 08:26:26 AM
3d 3 ott :D
BTW whats a gyro flop???
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Robski on October 23, 2008, 01:06:46 PM
2d gyro flop and the double version
Can you give instructions on how to do it, please?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on October 23, 2008, 03:17:52 PM
@Toby: Integrals always end up in a left(external) wrap! ;)
But a video with your trick would make everything clearer, wouldn't it? :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on October 23, 2008, 03:31:42 PM
@Dennis: BUZZER! Incorrect. Read the description. Try it, and realise, wow! That was an integral that ends in a right wrap :O
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Toby on October 23, 2008, 05:27:39 PM
@ Dennis: yeah...pretty much what Dave said  ;), i dont actually have a camera though at the moment otherwise i would be more than happy to film it! I'm sure i'm not the first to come across this though
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 23, 2008, 09:04:32 PM
by using even longer string?

no!! it's a thing that I let the stick pass trought the diablo one more time that the usual, ends with the diabolo in the right 'backside'
..
when I get time I'll record a video.

---> I know it Toby, but I'm talking about a different thing, like a tomicide to minig, but otherwise you get the left stick, it pass trought the diabolo and gives a right wrap..

I don't know if it has sense...
sorry..
;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on October 24, 2008, 11:38:51 PM
I just learned that diabolo with left hand sucks. :(
Oh and I also learnt that I broke the 2000th post barrier.  :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on October 25, 2008, 02:54:46 AM
FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 25, 2008, 08:30:18 PM
3D sun to double armstall  :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: allsoppy5 on October 26, 2008, 11:33:25 AM
do a 3d trick you dont need to be able to shuffle for =P

I love it! it is basically a ping pong but you have a 3rd in a wrap!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on October 27, 2008, 01:54:32 PM
i just learned that a 3d gyroflop might be possible or even is possible

EDIT: Got it twice  :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on October 27, 2008, 02:34:37 PM
i just learned that a 3d gyroflop might be possible or even is possible

EDIT: Got it twice  :-D

i can only think of one way u can do that

and i got fan 360
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: kizzyontay52 on October 27, 2008, 05:08:05 PM
you using a bearing diab? with my fly i can get 360 gyro flops %90 of the time
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 28, 2008, 02:03:17 PM
Fan 360, c-fan feed and unfeed combos. Still stuck at 20 ott with 3D, i can keep the diabolos inline most of the time now, its just my hand timing keeps messing up so the shuffle becomes very unstable then everything drops.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on October 28, 2008, 03:52:55 PM
@dodson: any tips for the c-fan? ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on October 28, 2008, 04:29:45 PM
or yeah.
The main thing is that you have to unwrap with your right hand later than normally.
or try to begin with another entry
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 28, 2008, 04:47:13 PM
@dodson: any tips for the c-fan? ;)
Lots of practise, i suck at it so i don't really no what else to say. Sorry i couldnt be more helpful.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on October 29, 2008, 02:10:22 AM
i just learned that a 3d gyroflop might be possible or even is possible

EDIT: Got it twice  :-D

really? all 3 a:) t the same time or 1? either way that would be good if you can keep it goingthat needs a video :D no excuses
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on October 29, 2008, 11:30:13 AM
just 1 diabolo does the gyroflop, sorry funty and it´s an easy trick as well
Ohh and yes my excuse is as always NO CAM

EDIT: it´s also possible with 2 diabolos at the same time, but i can´t do it :(
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on October 29, 2008, 12:21:48 PM
^Mind trying to explain how to do it? Even if you say it´s easy it still sounds very interesting.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on October 29, 2008, 02:33:33 PM
I just learned to do the vertax genocide unwrapping clockwise.. Instead of counterclockwise what I was doing... Maybe I can land it now  :embarassed:
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 29, 2008, 05:32:30 PM
3D wrap acceleration  :-D complete fluke of course, wrapped one diabolo, the other two kind of went into mini columns, then i unwrapped and they popped up in the right position and i was able to continue the shuffle.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on October 29, 2008, 07:28:54 PM
rememebered how to do bloodlyclow...
training vertax things again, a little integrals, 2d high...
and still trying to learn fan.

stopped to try 3d, but I'll return to it...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: aznalien on October 30, 2008, 01:04:55 AM
OMG finally after like 1000000000000000000 months i got C* FAN WOOOOOOOOOOO, i never thought this day would come  :'(  GAWD im bouncing off walls. im sure everyone tht leard fan felt like king of the world after the feat. I KNOW I DO! :-D  haha got like 8 rotations baby, with a sketchy exit, but hey i did it!!!!! :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on October 30, 2008, 10:56:13 AM
YES!!!111!!!
I learnt my first grind yesterday!
it may have only lasted for one or two seconds but it was soo cool.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on October 30, 2008, 04:51:24 PM
After getting 50 ott many times yesterday, 441, wrap acceleration and a few 3 suns. Today i cant shuffle at all  :'( cant even get 5 ott, dont no why.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on October 31, 2008, 02:50:03 PM
Played around with multiplexes once again, and got these:
4 ball multiplex variations
4 ball mills mess
5 ball multiplex cascade (?)

Also:
Stable 3 club 441
3 ball chops
3 ball rubenstein's revenge
More confident with 3 ball box and double box
Almost 3 ball reverse chops
3 ring pancakes
More flashes of 5 ball cascade and a few flukes containing more than 5 catches, feels like I will never learn it.. :-|
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: kurrygrodan on October 31, 2008, 03:59:21 PM
I just learnt to do a middle long fan :o
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: wagnerBCJ on October 31, 2008, 04:42:41 PM
i just learned bloodyclown integral
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: traPACK on October 31, 2008, 04:51:41 PM
i just learned bloodyclown integral

lucky you! I did my first flukey one, today :-|

But I learnt 2d mini genocide :-D It looks messy but it is 2d mini-g :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: kurrygrodan on October 31, 2008, 05:04:05 PM
guess what just i learnt to do... i did a gott damn long sprinkler. I did the original 2 diabolo shuffle while the diabolos was in a sprinkler. it was great!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: looby on October 31, 2008, 06:50:29 PM
YES!!!111!!!
I learnt my first grind yesterday!
it may have only lasted for one or two seconds but it was soo cool.

What is this travesty??

I believe it's the work of some youngun on this here forum.  You'll know who it is though.  He'll be the one busting out some pretty average stuff compared to everyone else involved in a London compilation due for release soon
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 01, 2008, 01:56:58 AM
kind like a 360º after a wrapped minig
something with body moves
and also trying to do a tomicide to minig after a wrapped minig...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on November 01, 2008, 01:37:29 PM
I just learnt that, half term + too much practice = very very painful wrists  :'( i cant diabolo now
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on November 01, 2008, 06:43:54 PM
Yes  :-D
I´ve have come up with that some time before, but even more painful i guess, becaus when i did that my finger was broken  :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on November 02, 2008, 11:03:37 AM
I just learned a stuipd body move  :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: kizzyontay52 on November 02, 2008, 02:45:59 PM
What is this travesty??

I believe it's the work of some youngun on this here forum.  You'll know who it is though.  He'll be the one busting out some pretty average stuff compared to everyone else involved in a London compilation due for release soon

what that all about?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ben. on November 02, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
don't listen to looby, he is obviously a novice so don't read anything that he writes.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on November 04, 2008, 05:39:04 AM
well done on the grind looby but whats the point of quoting yourself?
wait i wrote that before i read what ben wrote
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Lily on November 04, 2008, 04:33:53 PM
the right frontwrap sprinkler( lame imo, but just to say i can do all 4 basic entries)
But can't get the so called "gunslinger" of vertax. Damn this trick.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: flep on November 05, 2008, 11:04:58 AM
3ball mills mess :)
I know it's not that much but I'm happy that I finally got it..
However, there is still a lot of work to be done because it looks quite sketchy..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on November 05, 2008, 11:08:56 AM
3d minigenocide. Hahah
Also 6 ball qualify is good. And a few sweet runs of 7.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: omeras828 on November 05, 2008, 11:39:54 AM
3d minigenocide. Hahah
Also 6 ball qualify is good. And a few sweet runs of 7.

is 3d minigenocide impossible?
how?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: barnesy on November 05, 2008, 11:55:16 AM
Yeah, I'm intrigued too.  I've got several ideas but haven't got near making any of them work. 
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on November 05, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
it's fairly easy from a double stall
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: allsoppy5 on November 05, 2008, 04:54:48 PM
Lol eveything is easy for you crackers =P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on November 05, 2008, 10:20:48 PM
it's fairly easy from a double stall
Hit it on the head. My version is a bit smoother than the one on video somewhere..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on November 05, 2008, 10:21:40 PM
10 catches of 3high........after a 3up 360!

Also perfecting 531, 441, 42, 4242, and a new entrance to 3high

Modification!

4high 4 cathces again, but it didn't take a lot of tries

4low 5 catches... work in progress

is 3d minigenocide impossible?
how?
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=xSTVcBgAV8o&eurl=http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=4605.0 (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=xSTVcBgAV8o&eurl=http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=4605.0)

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on November 07, 2008, 07:36:17 AM
very impressive
awesome mini genocide
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on November 07, 2008, 09:52:20 AM
I want to see that tried but without a double stall! Keep a 2d shuffle going and then do it, then maybe to a vortex just for the hell of it (Cos the first trick just wouldn't have been impressive enough). Crackers, I'm counting on you.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on November 07, 2008, 03:00:35 PM
I want to see that tried but without a double stall! Keep a 2d shuffle going and then do it, then maybe to a vortex just for the hell of it (Cos the first trick just wouldn't have been impressive enough). Crackers, I'm counting on you.
I tried like this the first time (before seeing diabolotino's). I pop'd a diabolo out, cross my arms to catch it backside on my left. Got close to it but never managed it. Gave up when I saw it was very lame :-|
My one diabolo isolations with 3 suck anyways, the most likely people to nail this would be the ones with a solid wrap hover acceleration. For the vortex exit ask Zack ...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 07, 2008, 05:49:28 PM
another exit for infinite suicide with left wrap...
kind like a half tomicide exit..

..

easy, simple, and I like it..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on November 07, 2008, 09:45:48 PM
4high 4 cathces again, but it didn't take a lot of tries

4low 5 catches... work in progress
Al it sounds more impressive if you say 4 high from a throw start from me, and 4 low from a 2D pop pass
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Bro on November 07, 2008, 10:18:19 PM
Al it sounds more impressive if you say 4 high from a throw start from me, and 4 low from a 2D pop pass
Of course
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on November 07, 2008, 10:23:53 PM
Al it sounds more impressive if you say 4 high from a throw start from me, and 4 low from a 2D pop pass
No it doesn't. If anything it sounds much less impressive. Sorry diabolobro I was impressed, but now I'm not so much.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on November 08, 2008, 01:00:51 AM
2d over the leg ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on November 08, 2008, 03:51:06 AM
No it doesn't. If anything it sounds much less impressive. Sorry diabolobro I was impressed, but now I'm not so much.
Cool Hathaway
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Benny? on November 08, 2008, 08:41:50 AM
2d over the leg ::)

i learnt 3d over the leg before i learnt it with 2 ::)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on November 08, 2008, 07:44:30 PM
i learnt 3d over the leg before i learnt it with 2 ::)

makes me giggle... :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: S@RuMaN on November 09, 2008, 04:27:53 PM
It is easier to do it with 3d, becouse the diabolos do nice circle when you do 3, but when you do 2 they do something like a melon
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on November 13, 2008, 07:51:23 PM
AC fan!! S-fan also but far from solid. And 14 catches of 5b cascade!!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Paino on November 13, 2008, 10:49:16 PM

 2d mini gen
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 14, 2008, 09:08:32 PM
finally learning how to exit s-fan..
now I just have to keep it for a longer and longer time..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on November 16, 2008, 12:14:12 PM
Starting to practice it since summer last year. AND FINALLY LANDED VERTAX GENOCIDES!

Ben and all you others who helped me TY alot!  :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on November 16, 2008, 02:51:05 PM
i just learned how to make my fan 40x better
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Niclas on November 16, 2008, 02:56:16 PM
2d minigeno
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 16, 2008, 08:00:16 PM
i just learned how to make my fan 40x better

teach me!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on November 16, 2008, 08:07:13 PM
From this week:

Async style hover start with 3D. Could do sync only before.

2D eiffel with extra grab (it´s cheating but it makes it SO much easier to hit every time ;)).

2D feeded cradle.

S-fan to lefthanded magic knot exit.

New handlocktricks and variations on both hands in excalibur.

Boomerang pass to two handed grind pick-up (only the pick-up is new).

X-gyro for 1D (a cradle that has almost the same stability vertical as the motorbikestall, you can do pirous in it easily).

Reversed diamond (looks like the normal diamond but with two less sides) and variations on that.

B-2 (named it after the airplane, the string becomes the shape of a solid wing).

Enforced eiffel. A stringtrick that looks like an eiffel in the middle but has two extra supporting strings on the outside, probably needs a better name if anyone has ideas?

New starcradle. Very very easy, from a gunslinger you excange the sticks and pull out the strings with the fingers to get a Davidstar. Throw the diabolo out to get a normal star.

"Ostrich/Strutsen". Dumb noveltytrick where you lock the diabolo in a knot, have two loops around both indexfingers you flap with (representing the wings) and you walk the sticks on the floor to make them work as legs.

^Very easy to see the weeks where you haven´t had much gympractice, it is only tricks here that can be done with low ceiling :P.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Alex! on November 16, 2008, 10:26:18 PM
Thats when you haven't had much practice?! Where do you get the time to do this :o
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on November 17, 2008, 07:04:59 AM
perfected vertax genocide
vertax genocide btb as well
3d start much more stable and frequent adn 3d shuffle went 6ott :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on November 17, 2008, 10:15:08 PM
3D over 100 ott for the first time  :-D 3 catches of 4 low, im not gonna work on it seriously, just tried for a joke and fluked a few catches.  :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on November 17, 2008, 10:22:04 PM
teach me!?!?!?!?!

ok...well first i started using the armstall and then i figured out how to maintain the fan by doing continuous circles with both hands and finally i learned that you exit it sort of like a vortex so there... :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 17, 2008, 10:55:35 PM
I know how to start and how to exit almost perfectly.
but I have problems with the continuous circles...
my great doubt is:
how to keep a s-fan forever???

I can do it for 7 seconds I think... than I have to exit..
I have henry's circus...but I've tried with babaches and happened the same thing...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on November 18, 2008, 01:34:04 AM
are you having trouble with reg fans too?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on November 18, 2008, 02:22:33 PM
are you having trouble with reg fans too?

I do
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 18, 2008, 05:11:14 PM
you mean like c-fans?????

yes....it's worst than my s-fans...

 :(

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: garner on November 18, 2008, 07:47:03 PM
I'VE LEARNT EVERYTHING
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on November 18, 2008, 07:54:09 PM
i just learnt that garners back!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: JJesse on November 18, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
I'VE LEARNT EVERYTHING

That's not even good. Try harder.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: nev on November 18, 2008, 08:41:38 PM
I don't doubt it for a second
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on November 19, 2008, 02:57:06 AM
you mean like c-fans?????

yes....it's worst than my s-fans...

 :(

..

learn to do a good run with AC fans (reg) before you attempt s-fans. by the way i just learned s- fans...haha
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 19, 2008, 07:15:50 PM
an AC-fan (anti clockwise) is a C-fan (not clockwise, but the one that I can enter with a vortex...), am I wrong?

well....I'll train both...
they're slowly getting better...
until 2050 I'll learn swing and 1080º fan!!! hahahahahaah

-- learned a little integral combos
working on a cool integral (maybe I'll try to submit it for a VotW)
and some minig's things...

with 2d: improving high
- learned a little magic knot combo
- and also a open sun with one diabolo when after a pop on mini-columns...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on November 19, 2008, 10:02:08 PM
its from your perspective, not the audiences i believe
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: GuiZ on November 20, 2008, 12:52:23 AM
Finally!!
vortex suicide, antisuicide, training mini columns...about 20 ctchs..
and improved high..now, siteswap - G R E A T !
^^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Eric Moffett on November 20, 2008, 01:57:27 AM
Derivative suicide maybe??? ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 20, 2008, 03:28:31 AM
yes, in my perspective an anti-clockwise/AC-fan and a C-fan are the same thing...

am I right???

both go in front if I'm turned to the left side...
understood?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on November 20, 2008, 04:24:44 AM
Quote
Finally!!
vortex suicide, antisuicide, training mini columns...about 20 ctchs..
and improved high..now, siteswap - G R E A T !

Well done, those are some big tricks to come all at the same time like that.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Toby on November 20, 2008, 05:20:41 AM
yes, in my perspective an anti-clockwise/AC-fan and a C-fan are the same thing...

am I right???

both go in front if I'm turned to the left side...
understood?

Nope..believe it or not..AC fan is AntiClockwise and a C fan is Clockwise (ie, same directions as a normal left sun) so opposite spinning directions of the same thing. Could be either side of your body really, its all about the directions they are rotating, but the stardard one is normally done to the left side for both. Understood?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on November 20, 2008, 11:43:34 AM
Learned vortex! And anti suicide! And im perfecting vertax gen, 1.5 years of practicing but I can do it !
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 20, 2008, 12:05:50 PM
so an AC can be turned on a C.. right???
and the clockwise name is for the audience view, and not for my view?

If I'm correct I understand...

 ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hathaway on November 20, 2008, 12:10:42 PM
Bassically if the diabolos are going clockwise (left sun for instance) then its a C-fan. If they are going anti clockwise then its an AC-fan. Understand? Its from your perspective. Watch seans old (but still useful) fan vid, it shows 3 entries to an AC-fan. S'all good.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on November 20, 2008, 08:27:59 PM
yah that vid helped me alot when i was learning them, thanks hath for agreeing with me :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on November 21, 2008, 05:31:49 AM
infinite genocide thing (the one pranay invented/pioneered)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on November 21, 2008, 08:23:00 AM
tweak the cods off a mini g.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zwiggelbig on November 21, 2008, 09:47:07 AM
infinite genocide thing (the one pranay invented/pioneered)
good job, but just wondering do you do that from a unwrapped infinite suicide?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on November 21, 2008, 11:48:08 AM
havent tried yet, but i imagine just move quicker....
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 21, 2008, 04:03:41 PM
humm..
I think I understand now..
thanks!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on November 21, 2008, 05:18:48 PM
Quote
infinite genocide thing (the one pranay invented/pioneered)

good job, but just wondering do you do that from a unwrapped infinite suicide?


What trick is this? In what video please?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on November 21, 2008, 10:43:56 PM
a little bit overdue on this post, lots of knot combos with 1D+2D, continuous vortex/half vortex, and 6 rounds of vortex suicides with 2D, also fan starts, and geting better with S-fan...

plus i sucesfully landed a backflip today off a piece of gymnastics equipment that i dont know the name of,
Al's my witness, and my teacher.

that is all
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fzzyrn on November 22, 2008, 01:06:48 AM
@diabolo88
the one that is in the 2007 collab. i forgit the name
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: fasilevi on November 22, 2008, 01:50:37 AM
@diabolo88
the one that is in the 2007 collab. i forgit the name

if you're talking about the trick im thinking, it isn't in the 2007 collab, it is in "Man lebt nur einmal" or "Tears dry on their own" vids from pranay
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Hector 641 on November 22, 2008, 09:59:05 AM
@fasiveli: I think he means the infinite mini genocide to Integral which pranay does in the 2007 collab vid after the Duicide pirouette thingy

Btw: learned two new Integral, the first one is totaly lame and the other one is a kick up to BF Integral

Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on November 22, 2008, 11:17:11 AM
Quote
if you're talking about the trick im thinking, it isn't in the 2007 collab, it is in "Man lebt nur einmal" or "Tears dry on their own" vids from pranay

@diabolo88
the one that is in the 2007 collab. i forgit the name

Thanks, I know then where to look at least.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on November 22, 2008, 01:44:04 PM
Just got spriklers down solid! Suicide and normal :P
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: flep on November 22, 2008, 02:28:31 PM
finally I can juggle 4 balls :D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Crackers on November 23, 2008, 10:33:02 AM
I learnt properly the "trick" langerz tought me back at the london meet ...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on November 23, 2008, 01:27:15 PM
i just learned the overwhip-suicide from the 06 collab
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on November 23, 2008, 10:40:39 PM
3 Diabolo 30 ott............after a feed the sun 2-3 ........i have no idea how ive learnt this, ive been trying 3 sun and it hasnt been working, tried feed the sun for a laugh and it worked.......its getting fairly consistant to...........so maybe soon i can say my first solid 3 diabolo trick was 2-3 fts.........how strange.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: William on November 24, 2008, 01:01:33 AM
More momentum from the 2d sun. I also pulled 2-3 before a reg sun.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: thetemple94 on November 24, 2008, 08:44:32 PM
Fluently speak gibberish.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on November 28, 2008, 02:20:16 PM
finally learnt the vertax neck thing that I was training...
learned some integrals too..

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: twostime on December 04, 2008, 12:09:08 AM
Just got my first controlled 2d shuffle to work!  :-D Stopped worrying and it all seemed to work.  Got to stop it collapsing now :-|  ...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Funty on December 04, 2008, 05:39:17 PM
good work!

I got a pretty cool variation on a mini g, you will see around christmas time
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: LaNgErZ on December 04, 2008, 05:43:57 PM
I learnt properly the "trick" langerz tought me back at the london meet ...

yay! thats a usefull mount

lz
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on December 06, 2008, 02:52:59 PM
feed the suicide 2-3
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: omeras828 on December 07, 2008, 12:40:08 AM
3 diabolo sun....
its so fun!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on December 07, 2008, 03:05:46 PM
3 diabolo sun....
its so fun!
Any tips? i still cant do it from shuffle, i have it clean and solid from feed now, but i still cant get close from shuffle.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on December 07, 2008, 08:16:46 PM
Most recently:

Makkys 2D sun to knot - slack to jump out - left trapezeknot out to held minishuffle - reverse the slack whip - vortex - (maybe/hopefully there is a shorter namesuggestion for the Makkypart of that combo :P?). Can connect it to insanely long combos already thanks to the vortexexit, it´s a sweet trick.

2D minigeno from double trapeze (shaky and not goodlooking but solid).

Floorelevatorstart (just an easy trick)

1D some of the knotstuff from Langerz vids

1D new versions of the diamond and more original stuff.

A couple of slack yoyotricks (were not easy to learn, I suck so bad at yoyo).
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Jn4s on December 08, 2008, 07:37:24 AM
 
2 Diabolos s-fan.

And excalibur genocide.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: kizzyontay52 on December 08, 2008, 09:34:25 PM
2d slackwhip combos and a lovely slack eifel tower!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Kingsid3 on December 14, 2008, 07:52:25 PM
I Kinda have a semi-solid fan now! BUt not having 2 of the same diabs doesn't help :'( But I only have a week left of school so i have 2 weeks of Diab Practise!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mykill on December 15, 2008, 01:42:37 AM
2D suns ^_^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on December 16, 2008, 12:05:32 AM
trash's web on the first time i tried it for some reason, pretty fun trick

2d double grind, which i kinda skipped before

kool star thing with my string that transforms into  a wacky thing that looks like a trampoline

thats all for now
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on December 16, 2008, 02:07:25 AM
"instant" eiffel tower
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on December 16, 2008, 03:34:44 AM
howd you do that?
instant eifell tower?
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: omeras828 on December 16, 2008, 11:54:14 AM
3D 42
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on December 16, 2008, 03:34:31 PM
kind of a back cup j-whip to tour eiffel...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on December 17, 2008, 04:16:17 PM
REGULAR 3 SUN  :-D getting this one solid may be tricky tho =[
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: ETAMark on December 17, 2008, 10:18:38 PM
After 6 months of sporadic practice, 2d clicked and within 2 weeks I have left suns, a sloppy sprinkler, and a few grind combo-y things. Woo!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on December 18, 2008, 02:43:48 AM
howd you do that?
instant eifell tower?


i'll post a video
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on December 18, 2008, 06:16:19 AM
thanks i cant wait
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: GuiZ on December 18, 2008, 03:12:29 PM
2D Double Antisuicide, an eiffel tower(invented by me), vortex suicides(many, finally!) , and i'm learning more continuous 2D siteswaps... :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on December 18, 2008, 10:03:04 PM
Two horribly difficult (but not yet smooth) 1D knot/slackcombos. Working on learning more, haven´t been in a gym for a long while.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: GuiZ on December 18, 2008, 10:28:19 PM
Ahaa!
2D Siteswap - whip catch with both hands
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on December 18, 2008, 10:36:36 PM
a lot of different Vertax Passes with GuiZ...
anoter integral..
and improved continuous slowcide mionigenocide...

..
 :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zaximax on December 19, 2008, 06:47:30 PM
ill learned to day vortex:D it wasn't hard at all:D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on December 19, 2008, 09:03:10 PM
Today got infinite wrap mini-geno on the left smooth.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: GuiZ on December 20, 2008, 01:35:44 AM
I learned, and now i'm finally(i teached my friend, but i still can't do it [very well]...) improving 2D mini columns...and Vertax Passes with luabduch...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Collin on December 20, 2008, 01:40:37 AM
very complicated slack/web combos
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on December 20, 2008, 02:02:40 AM
a new (?) s-fan exit
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on December 20, 2008, 03:52:30 AM
a new (?) s-fan exit
make a video of it, and dont forget that instant tower thing!
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on December 20, 2008, 04:12:00 AM
make a video of it, and dont forget that instant tower thing!
DONT RUSH ME WOMAN :-D

i'll get to it right now
 8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on December 24, 2008, 03:50:25 AM
mini-columns...FINALLY. after about 2 months i finally got them. and my camera actually broke so =/
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: monkiatzu on December 24, 2008, 05:54:34 AM
DONT RUSH ME WOMAN :-D

i'll get to it right now
 8)
WHO U CALLING WOMAN!!
Btw well done on mini columns, it will take a while to perfect though :)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo88 on December 24, 2008, 11:37:47 AM
Armstall and footstall with one sided diabolo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEuyI8Wqqyg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEuyI8Wqqyg)

^Like Yabe but with a straight arm like for an armroll. I don´t have a hubstack on my one-sided so that grab he does would be difficult without one ;). Btw, is there someone who makes them for one-sided or do you have to mod it yourself? I really want one for the one-sided. If noone makes them, is there somewhere a guide on how to make some for yourself?

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mini-columns...FINALLY. after about 2 months i finally got them. and my camera actually broke so =/

Yeah those are so annoying to learn :P, well done with your progress.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Dennis on December 24, 2008, 01:42:07 PM
hey, I forgot to say! ::)
A MERRY CHRISTMAS to you all! ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on December 24, 2008, 09:34:08 PM
Yeah those are so annoying to learn :P, well done with your progress.
thanks 8)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Y3K on December 26, 2008, 04:40:52 PM
I just learned finger grinds with my new wide-axle diabolo! The key is to catch it between the joints.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: pluto589 on December 26, 2008, 09:14:01 PM
mini collums sprinkler suicide out and around the leg 2d
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on December 27, 2008, 03:47:28 PM
3 ott in 3D low :-D

WHO U CALLING WOMAN!!
Btw well done on mini columns, it will take a while to perfect though :)


if by a while you mean three days then yeah a while. ;)
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: zaximax on December 27, 2008, 08:16:29 PM
I had 14 minicolluns in a row with 4 days practising but style isn't that good yet^^
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Will G on December 27, 2008, 08:26:05 PM
Vertax Gens
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on December 28, 2008, 02:48:26 PM
I learnt to slack what looked like a wizards hat!! but i cant do it again  :'( forgotten how i did it.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: mike. on December 28, 2008, 03:21:35 PM
i just learned that my three ott in 3D were a fluke :-|
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on December 28, 2008, 08:17:15 PM
360º tomicide to minigenocide...

kind like it...

 :-D
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: noel on December 28, 2008, 08:54:50 PM
double sun 3d but i think i have to change the plane because in when start the second sun sometimes they crush
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: wagnerBCJ on December 28, 2008, 09:40:36 PM
Fan Swinging and fan 1080º
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Marijn on December 30, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
Everlasting fans....-ish. Switching between diabolo's by a vortex suicide every few counts, not everlasting fan, I know, but I does the job :P My record is a little over 4 minutes now, then I stopped because my arms were aching.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on December 30, 2008, 04:35:48 PM
feed the sun (but I can do only one, starting with a mini columns thing entry) and it's an internal left sun (?????) I can't do the traditional yet...

..
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Ethan on December 30, 2008, 06:21:46 PM
i got something similar, but with an internal right sun, into 2D right sun, good enough for me
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on December 30, 2008, 06:29:18 PM
I wrote left ???
it was a mistake..
I mean, it's an internal RIGHT sun, what I learned, I think it's like what you sad...
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: Diabolo Dodson on December 30, 2008, 06:45:48 PM
First 2-3 feed the suicide where ive managed to continue the shuffle for more than 20 ott. I could never get the hand stick back into a comfortable position before. Working on 3D suicide start.
Title: Re: I just learnt to... (2008)
Post by: luabduch on December 31, 2008, 10:02:10 PM
after one hour trying to understand the trick
and one more hour trying to figure out....

Jako's integral!

 :-D
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