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Title: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Rusty on November 20, 2004, 07:05:03 PM
When the diabolo starts to wrap up on the string all the time I blame it on the string, and change it.

Do you guys clean you diabolos axels regularly?

Rusty, Norway

(Lots of snow here now)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: barnesy on November 20, 2004, 07:06:22 PM
I wipe the axles with cloth (well, with my T-shirt) a little bit just to keep them grease free.  And toothpaste seems to be good for scrubbing Henry's cups with, as it's slightly abrasive.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Sean on November 21, 2004, 05:31:06 AM
A little bit of acetone and a bunch of elbow grease works wonders for cleaning the rubber cups. Matt Hall got me into that. He always seems to have white Henrys that are so clean they could be new - no small feat. Not that I've bothered to do it in the last 3 months or so, but if you want to get diabolos clean, nothing seems to work like acetone.

(You can find acetone in bulk at any hardware store.)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: MattF on November 21, 2004, 11:16:42 AM
a touch of ligher fluid (the stuff you can get for zippo lighters) also seems to do the trick when it comes to cleaning diabolo cups.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: JGherkin on November 22, 2004, 07:57:36 PM
I was well pleased the other week when I managed to get two of my diabs clean with soapy water and a scourer...ok so i had no ends to my fingers anymore and cudn't actually use my keyboard properly afterwards but it was worth it, I'll try some of the ol acetone on my third diab when I can be bothered to get some
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Paul on November 22, 2004, 08:24:59 PM
I usually get my girlfriend to clean mine. Its much easier that way!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on November 22, 2004, 08:30:33 PM
A friend of mine once cleaned my 2 Henrys Circus diabolos (blue/black) with just water and some soap. It toke a while but they came out clean! However, a few tricks later there were black marks on the blue cups again... :(  

Maybe aceton works? I'll try it someday (and a bunch of elbow grease you said ??? :? my english isn't that good, so I don't understand :oops:  :roll: )
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: el_grimley on November 22, 2004, 09:20:10 PM
elbow greese is using your muscle and working at it.

More of a when to clean point: I would really recomend washing diabolos thoroughly with clean fresh water after use in a salty enviroment (like on the beech). In about 3 weeks my axels rusted through on my Henry's after two weeks beside the sea.

Graham
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt on November 23, 2004, 12:26:58 AM
Hi everyone!

I use acetone and a brillo scouring pad.  I sit them in the sink with warm water and scrub until my fingers are sore and red.  They look great, but it is a bit time consuming.  Everyone at the fest is always shocked to hear how long I've had mine (because they look new), but I've stopped cleaning them until WJF and now they are DIRTY.  I'm talking MFP's diabolo dirty (those of you who've seen know what I mean).  haha
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Arjan on November 23, 2004, 03:04:38 AM
A white is black you mean Matt?

Well, you shoudn`t clean them, you better spend that time on playing ;)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: seán_ on November 23, 2004, 03:50:06 AM
Thanks for the acetone tip.

I had been using some kind of oxygenated kitchen cleaner (until it was pointed out that having a clean kitchen might be a little bit more important than having clean diabolos...I bit my tongue). It did the job but worried me the first time because the bells went very matt coloured which soon reverted to shiny then black :) .

What makes Henrys go black? One theory I heard was that friction removes material from the axle, which gets transfered to the string that then gets transferred to the bells. I dont know if this is the case but if it was then using a different material running axle might help. If its down to the actual rubber then thats just one of those things.

Seán
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: staticjuggler on January 15, 2005, 08:29:14 PM
Hi,

Are you saying that finesses don't get dirty, only henry's do because of the rubber?

Static

www.staticjuggler.com
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: seán_ on January 15, 2005, 08:53:35 PM
Finesesse get dirty but not as dirty as Henrys it would seem. I'm not sure about Harlequins since I dont have any myself.

I think it is a combination of the rubber and the axles that Henrys use.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: kamikace on January 15, 2005, 09:51:13 PM
I clean my diabolos with burn alcohol (which is blue), but I have never cleaned my diabolo axels!  :(  I thought they were cleaned by the string friction....  :P  isn´t they?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Yoda on January 30, 2005, 02:31:47 PM
I clean my circus with querosene (Is this right in english?), I've tried many things, like soap, acetone... but the only thing that cleaned it was querosene, and it required a lot of work to get it clean (Its a circus glow)... I Also clean my henry's yellow string with querosene when its getting dirty and it works! =D

[]s
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: seán_ on January 30, 2005, 02:50:46 PM
Quote from: Yoda
I clean my circus with querosene (Is this right in english?), I've tried many things, like soap, acetone... but the only thing that cleaned it was querosene, and it required a lot of work to get it clean (Its a circus glow)... I Also clean my henry's yellow string with querosene when its getting dirty and it works! =D

[]s


Kerosene (parrafin in the UK) , the fuel used for fire juggling?

I have not tried it. One thing seems consistant though, all methods seem to require a lot of work.

edit* I had a word with Yoda, he says thats it, he also mentions that he washes the string with water after cleaning

Carefull with this one as its potentially very dangerous. usual warnings about avoiding naked flames, making sure you are in a well ventilated area and not drinking it etc.

http://www.brownoil.com/msdskerosene.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene



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Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Chiok on January 30, 2005, 07:07:47 PM
From what I've learnt from Mechanical Engineering,
Mixing parafin (kerosene for US) with washing up liquid and water (not sure of the quantities) makes a very effective cleaning and degreasing agent and is used in manufacturing applications to remove grime and oil from components.  Not sure if it'd be good on string due to it's poruous properties, I would have thought that it would make it very slippery like a parafin spill on concrete.

Chiok
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Sean on February 25, 2005, 06:33:19 AM
There's been some talk about finesses not getting as dirty and being easier to clean. After an hour of intense scrubbing with acetone I gave up with 2.5 of my circuses clean. Later on that evening I decided to have a go at my white finesses.

About 60 seconds later with only a scouring pad and water I had the following accomplished:

(http://diabolo.ca/images/temp/dirtyfinesse3.jpg)
(http://diabolo.ca/images/temp/dirtyfinesse2.jpg)

Amazing. :)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on February 25, 2005, 08:51:12 AM
Cool! I just love that white color of Finesses! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on February 26, 2005, 04:18:53 PM
wow, that's beautiful sean. i tried cleaning my circus out of whimsy, and i scrubbed it with some kind of cleaner my mom gave me, that didnt work very well, but at least it got off the chunks  :P
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Dracodragon on May 13, 2005, 02:26:26 AM
Hello everyone. I am new to these forums and kinda new to diaboloing(been diaboling for two or three months now) and ive been wondering. What is a good way to clean a henrys circus diabolo? Do you have to use some special solution, just wash and scrub it with water, or do something entirely different. I dont want to ruin them by putting some soap that might destroy the metal, and rubber.

ps: i dont have acetone(spelling?) or anything. is there a good alternative than that?

-Chris G.-
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Arjan on June 16, 2005, 09:13:59 PM
Okay, after a few months of intenste practise with my herny`s I found some time to clean em.

The result:

Before:

(http://home.planet.nl/~groe2293/foto19.jpg)

After:

(http://home.planet.nl/~groe2293/foto20.jpg)

I was going to take a shot at the dirty diabolo contest... but they aren`t all black, so I gave up.
This is how I have done it:

Took them apart.
Filled a tub with really hot water .
Put the half shell in there, for about 1 hour... along with some soap.
Then just started scrubbing with a scouring pad, and a larger thing.
It was really hard, and took long... but they are clean.

Only, I still think they can get cleaner. I tried with some acetone, from a little bottle, but that didn`t work really... do you guy`s mix it with water?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Chiok on June 17, 2005, 10:47:45 AM
Crikey that's dirty!  Is there mud and dirt in there or is it just successive cup rubbing (umm, yeah...) with the handstick?  And that's why I went for red.  I use surgical spirit on cotton wool to clean things like my white clubs and that works well.  Don't know about acetone though I'm afraid.  Parafin, water and washing liquid goes well too.

Chiok
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Arjan on June 17, 2005, 01:52:58 PM
Well there is some dirt on there, but mainly from colliding intogether, and rubbing the cups for corrections.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Sean on June 17, 2005, 10:47:03 PM
I think you could at least earn a top 3 finish in the contest with those pictures, Arjan. ;)

When I use acetone I get the cups wet, get the scouring pad wet, dab a little acetone on the scouring pad, and scrub like mad. I think the most essential part in the equation is a fresh, rough, scouring pad like this:
(http://diabolo.ca/images/temp/scour.jpg)
I find it gets worn out after about 3 dirty circuses and doesn't clean as well.

I usually start with lots of enthusiasm and end with none. As a result my diabolos come out successively less clean. :roll:

On a side note, I find that when circuses are first cleaned they have a matte surface that attracts new dirt and marks like a magnet. After a while they get shiny again and stay cleaner. I accidentally discovered that if the cups get covered in a thin layer of skiing glide wax they get really shiny and stay almost perfectly clean. Waxed cups also, however, leave a residue on the string that renders the string so slippery it becomes useless.  :?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on June 18, 2005, 08:49:37 AM
check out the scouring pads with soap! those are great!

i actually used a new sponge like that, and i used some bathtub cleaner. it's like the white paste that you put on tile and aluminum and stuff. and man, that cleaned it off pretty well. i didnt have such disgusting diabolos as you guys, but still, when i was done, they looked really nice.

soon i will be getting white henry's, white G1, and white G2...then you will really see the dirt :D
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on July 04, 2005, 07:37:35 PM
Allright, I decide to clean my very dirty* white Finesses II today. I used a scouring pad (several pads actually) and green liquid soap. I gave all I got, and now there's nothing left of me (well, at least of my finger tops :P). I don't think they can get cleaner... but I'm araid to use them!! :P Here are the pics:

before:
(http://www.circusplanet.net/tijn/finessedirty2.jpg) (http://www.circusplanet.net/tijn/finessedirty1.jpg)

after:
(http://www.circusplanet.net/tijn/finesseclean1.jpg) (http://www.circusplanet.net/tijn/finesseclean2.jpg)


*as far as Finesses can be dirty, they were very clean compared to Arjan's white Henry's Circus.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: ming on July 04, 2005, 08:35:37 PM
Has anyone tried sticking they're diabolos in the dishwasher? Was thinking of giving it a go
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Spooned on July 04, 2005, 08:49:18 PM
Hmm, dont know why you guys cant clean circus', get a scouring pad and then add some of that fairy cleaning liquid, and it comes out completely clean, but it leaves this crappy stuff that kinda changes the colour, but that rubs off after a few days.

EDIT: damn those finesses are clean *shields eyes from brightness*
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: norbi on July 04, 2005, 08:53:36 PM
WOW, that's seriously flerkin white. Yeh circus can come up completely clean, but not as completely clean as that, i am in awe.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on July 04, 2005, 09:26:37 PM
holy crap, that's amazing...are you sure that's not a picture of when you first got those G2s rather than when you just cleaned them? :p
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Yoda on July 04, 2005, 10:45:04 PM
Hey! Those finesess are be-u-tiful!!
I just found a way to clean my circus in a more confortable way:
I disassemble it, put the "screw" in a fixed drill, atach one of the shells with the hub and the top nut to lock it there, then I turn on the drill and: Tcharam! The cup is rotating :shock: :D  then all I do is to pass a cloth with some cleaning liquid (kerosene most of the time) and I dont have to rub it a lot!
As a result my phospho circus glows in the dark again! not only the inner part  :lol:

[]s
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Twilite on July 05, 2005, 12:34:53 AM
From the photos I've seen so far it looks like it's just me that gets big scratches as well as marks on their diabolos? I think even if I cleaned my relatively new Jazz it wouldn't come up that nice because of all the cuts and scrapes it has. Is that just me?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: seán_ on July 05, 2005, 12:41:48 AM
Have you been playing on concrete  or rough asphalt Twilite? Naughty!

Yoda mentions parafin again, I really must try that next time I'm due a diabolo clean. I'll report  back on the results in November ;)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Twilite on July 05, 2005, 12:48:41 AM
I guess I have  :oops: It's the only place in the garden that's far enough away from the pond to keep things dry! You'd never think I had a huge park behind my house would you! I'll do my best to keep my next ones cleaner and scratch-freeer! (Yes, you can have threee e's in a row!)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Chiok on July 05, 2005, 12:58:24 AM
Crikey to Tijn's finesses.  I'm pretty sure you just scrubbed off the top layer of rubber like peeling a carrot.  Lighter fluid works well too like paraffin, though a lil more heady and a lil more flammable.  Bad sticks can also take chunks out of your diabolo too.  I learnt this with my old poorly made aluminium bars that took a small chunk out of my Beaches.

Chiok
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Dracodragon on July 05, 2005, 02:06:30 AM
Man those finesses look brand new!  :shock:

Hey, I also found a great way, yet extermely hard process of cleaning my henrys circuses. Well i dont have a picture of them dirty before, and one of them now, but trust me on this one. I just got water to clean them! And then i got a little wash cloth(the ones that say that they have microscopic little fabrics that help clean out) then I got the ratched I used to clean them(or you can use a good sized stick or something with a flat edge) and then I put the cloth on the ratchet dampened with water, and started scrubbing. Hey, its like drawing, and it is loads off your finger tips. My diabolos also looked brand new, completely cleaned, and the same color as I got them!. You guys cay try this with acetone or something, it will probably do wonders on your diabs, but I think water is the way to go without getting any crazy sideeffects.

Well, alright my way is not great if you are looking for the easy tireless way, kinda "caveman like" :P, but it works great, but takes long. It took me about a good thee hours to get my circuses clean, but my wrists just felt like they would after writing a 4-5 page essay. I think my butt hurt more from sitting down on it all that time than my wrists did after I was done. :?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on July 05, 2005, 08:53:06 AM
Quote from: Twilite
From the photos I've seen so far it looks like it's just me that gets big scratches as well as marks on their diabolos? I think even if I cleaned my relatively new Jazz it wouldn't come up that nice because of all the cuts and scrapes it has. Is that just me?


yeah thats why my henry's are fecked, im trying to use them more on the grass when i do high patterns, but occasionally they fly over to the concrete in my backyard (or sometimes i have no choice, like when im in the parking lot or something :? ). so my diabolos are really scratched. when i clean em they look okay but they still have scratches.

and one of my circuses has like, a puncture wound. it looks like someone stabbed a knife almost straight through my diabolo, its the strangest thing because i dont remember something like that ever happening
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Chiok on July 05, 2005, 11:38:27 AM
Maybe someone was jealous at a convention or something.  Does it whistle now?

Chiok
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on July 05, 2005, 11:52:02 AM
Thanks for the compliments of my clean Finesses! The only way to get them really clean (especially the edge, damn that was some hard scrubbing work) is to scrub very hard with a new scouring pad. I don't want to use stuff like parafin, acetone, lighter fluid or other aggressive chemicals. I've only used some water and liquid green soap.

If you only want to get the top layer of dirt of, you only have to touch the diabs with a scouring pad, water and green soap. The dirt just flies off! Honestly :D (well, at least with Finesses) This time I really wanted them to look brandnew, so I also had to take the bottom layer of dirt of... only to amaze you guys here ofcourse :P
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: JGherkin on July 05, 2005, 02:07:28 PM
Yeah the dirt flies off so easy on every diab i think, water n a tiny bit o light scrubbin will dissolve it easy, its the scuff marks left when the diabs rub against each other that are the hard ones, just like scuff marks left by dark soled shoes on sports hall floors, any cleaner will tell you how annoying they are to get rid of, as well as any diabist who's attempted to clean their diabs  :wink:
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: seán_ on July 05, 2005, 02:13:20 PM
I know some people prefer not to mix diabolo colours. Does anyone have any thoughts about how much this matters when it comes to the the gunk that transfers between both diabs (I'd guess that the transfer still occurs but that it would be less noticeable)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on July 05, 2005, 02:42:21 PM
If there's a collision from a white and a red circus, you'll end up with red marks on the white diab. Not nice. But I use white Finesses, and they also get very dirty, no matter if they are the same color.. so the difference is not that big.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: barnesy on July 05, 2005, 02:52:17 PM
I used to have a black circus, and ended up giving it to someone because it was marking the others so much.   The red one does seem to mark the white one, but not a great deal.  And mine are lovely and filthy at the moment - I much prefer the feel of them when they're like that.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: ming on July 05, 2005, 03:15:21 PM
I just cleaned my white circus. Talk about elbow grease (tm), i now appreaciate what my ex used to do.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on July 06, 2005, 05:02:05 AM
Quote from: xfirebladex
Maybe someone was jealous at a convention or something.  Does it whistle now?

Chiok


well the hole doesnt go all the way through..i mean its not a hole. here are pics.

(http://www.bassfishers.net/matt/lj/diabhole-o1.jpg)
(http://www.bassfishers.net/matt/lj/diabhole-o2.jpg)

sean_: i dont think that there is any "gunk" that transfers between 2 diabolos, like martijn said, you just get the color from the others. my white Circus has a lot of blue and red streaks on it :P
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Dracodragon on July 06, 2005, 05:16:52 AM
Wow, that looks like a deep cut. How did that one happen?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on July 06, 2005, 11:55:20 AM
Quote from: Matt_
and one of my circuses has like, a puncture wound. it looks like someone stabbed a knife almost straight through my diabolo, its the strangest thing because i dont remember something like that ever happening

... maybe that answers your question? :wink:
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on July 06, 2005, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: Dracodragon
Wow, that looks like a deep cut. How did that one happen?


dude i have no idea, it's been there for a long time, im pretty sure it was there even before i used alum sticks...

and maybe, just maybe, martijn you may be right...someone was just too jealous of me and had to stab my circus  :lol:
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Twilite on July 08, 2005, 01:16:07 PM
I just finished cleaning my diabolo, and thought I'd share my experience.
I used a new scouring pad, very hot water and Fairy Liquid, and all the paint and surface dirt came right off after a little soak. Scrubbing got most of the rest of the ingrained dirt out of the scratches and things, but I did try a little aid, which seemed like a good idea at the time... bleach.

I thought "Ok, it's corrosive, but a tiny bit can't hurt, right?" Well, I have a clean diabolo, but instead of the rich purple I remember from the old days, and the clean bits under the hubs, I've now got a streaky, milky purple colour. So please don't use bleach! I'm not sure if this is from the scrubbing, because it hasn't completely dried yet (it feels dry) or a side affect of the bleach, but the rubber is super grippy now too. Any tiny brushes of the hands while finger grinding and it just flies away.
Moral; Don't use bleach!

It's hit the floor a couple of times, and where it's been scraped there are sort of more normal shades of purple showing through. Either the bleach is eating away at the rubber, or it just left a residue on the outside, that's why it's a weird colour. I'll keep my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Sean on July 08, 2005, 02:04:15 PM
The dried out sticky feeling is normal after scrubbing circus diabolos with anything. It goes away as you drop it enough times that the cups get polished again. As to the streaky, milky purple colour - maybe that is from the bleach.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Chiok on July 08, 2005, 09:51:09 PM
Damn, I feel bad for you.  That couldn't have felt good when that came out.  Hopefully it'll fade out or scrape away.  Though there was a post here a while ago about dying circus and Viper hubs with hard and soft masks for some striking results.

Hope it gets better,
Chiok
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Twilite on July 08, 2005, 11:25:37 PM
It's fine. It's good to learn this kind of thing on Jazz's, so I know not to do it when I get real diabolos!

One little question; When putting it all together, how important is it that it was all screwed centrally onto the threaded 'core'? I tried to get the cups, hub and axel as close to the middle as i could, but when tightening I may have tightened one side further than the other and it not all be screwed on evenly. (Am I explaining myself properly?)

Does it matter, and is there a trick to keeping it central?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on July 09, 2005, 03:36:41 AM
well ive never put together a jazz before, but i know for a fact that on a Circus, everything screws together perfectly. i.e. you screw everything as tight as it goes and it's perfectly set. i have a picture of the hubs by themselves screwed together....i hope this is what you are talking about. if not, sorry.

(http://bassfishers.net/matt/lj/henryshubs.JPG)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Dracodragon on July 09, 2005, 06:53:49 AM
Yeah, i dont think circuses really take any adjustment when screwwing them together.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Twilite on July 09, 2005, 06:19:18 PM
Thanks for the comments and pics. I guessed it looked the right length that when everything was screwed tight it would be central, just wanted to check!
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Pete on October 12, 2005, 05:03:52 PM
This probably came up somewhere in the thread but i haven't read it all. Brasso works really well for cleaning, but remember to rub it off or it gets on your string.
My friend said cif works well too but i havn't tried.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Jsam on November 08, 2005, 01:02:05 AM
I use a product called Goof Off it is clear and I put a tiny amount on a rag and one wipe and my green circus looks like brand new
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: frank0072 on December 03, 2005, 12:58:11 PM
I have cleansed my white diabolo 2 weeks ago. It was all rough at the end, because of the sponge. I really really disliked the extremely whitecolor when it was finished, so I am glad it is back to white with black stripes again finally :). No more cleaning for me.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Ben on December 24, 2005, 01:10:04 AM
i was wondering if anyone cleans their diabolos right when they get new ones

i just got some new circus diabolos and they feel very different from my old ones also the edges are sharper and when i used my new red one with an old white one the white one got red all over it when they touched..

should i just pretend they are dirty and clean them like i usually do... or dose it just take time or what?

-ben
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Pete on December 24, 2005, 08:29:51 AM
I found with my circuses that over time the cups lose the sort of brushed finish they have when they are new and they don't transfer colour so easily. When i got my first circuses i didn't clean every few days just to get a few marks off. I used them for ages and then cleaned it all off. SO unless you want them to look especially good i wouldn't bother cleaning them too often. But if you want to go ahead, it doesn't make a dfference to the diabolo i don't think.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Ben on December 24, 2005, 09:13:19 AM
heh humm i dont clean mine very often at all but i just got some new ones that i would like to use with the olds and i was wondering if anyone knew how to speed up the process of getting that brushed finish off...
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Pete on December 24, 2005, 05:17:42 PM
oh right. In that case i have no idea. Perhaps leaving them out on a cold night but  i wouldn't do that if i were you.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on December 24, 2005, 07:58:49 PM
now why the hell would you want to do that. not like it really matters to you, the performer/user, but if you're trying to colormatch for a crowd, trust me they wont know the difference  :roll:
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Ben on December 24, 2005, 11:26:31 PM
hah ... its the difference of feel between the new and the old ones.. like if i use an old and a new together the surface of the new feels way different as far as correcting and such..
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on December 24, 2005, 11:28:05 PM
Then you should have bought the diabolos at the same time :P
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Ben on December 24, 2005, 11:30:11 PM
yeah i should have but to late now  :roll:
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on December 25, 2005, 04:13:40 AM
hmm, weird. i never noticed that. i have my old(er) red circus which is worn down from much concrete practice, and a newer white one that has had all indoor and grass, so the white is smooth and the red is very rough....they really seem the same to me. just keep using them, it will even out.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Mike247 on December 28, 2005, 12:02:50 PM
I use white spirit to clean mine it works wonders.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Tiki24 on January 11, 2006, 01:20:46 AM
what do u do when the rubber cups get all beat up.  is there anything you can do to fix it?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Matt_ on January 11, 2006, 06:38:57 AM
buy a new diabolo :P

but yeah, when the actual rubber is messed up....you're out of luck
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: hammerhead on January 14, 2006, 10:09:08 PM
right now im using methalated spirits (the purple stuff) on kitchen roll to brush my 2 white finesses, then rub over them with one of the yellow sponges with an abravise top as metioned earlier. its working quite well. anyone else ever use this method?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Paul on January 14, 2006, 11:51:56 PM
I've found that Brasso that comes in soaked wool format is mega effective. I used to use it to fix Cd's that were too scratched play anymore, but it also works wonders on a circus or a finesse. It also removes the glossy finish from a new circus with a bit of elbow grease.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: rudy on January 15, 2006, 11:20:09 AM
i put my diabs for 2 hours in hot water then its realy easy to get it cleaned
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: hammerhead on January 15, 2006, 05:32:27 PM
i got bored of using meths, and my mum recommended flash, the cleaning liquid, that worked insanely well, you can see the dirt going away.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: jammy on February 15, 2006, 10:50:33 AM
to clean your diabolos is thinners! put some on a rag wipe the diabolo then get another rag wipe the thinners off! then leave to dry for few mins!
then u will have new looking diabolos again!

if your diabolos are really dirty!you can leave the thinners on the diabolos for abit but make sure that you wipe it off after
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Sambo on February 15, 2006, 08:07:23 PM
I saw the effect of Jammy's technique on Ginger Tom's white G2.

I must admit it is impressive! The acetone nail varnish remover technique does work well too. I've just completed one cup of my (not so filthy) orange G2 and I've learned a few things:

cleaning products not to be used:
-Cillit Bang
-Kaboom bathroom cleaner
-window cleaning solution
-Swarfega

Also, do not put acetone straight onto a scouring pad, as i have found out in this light-headed state.

http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf09296ir.jpg
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Chiok on February 16, 2006, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: Sambo
cleaning products not to be used:
-Cillit Bang
Oooo, what would Barry Scott say?  Have you seen what it can do to a penny?

I've not tried this, nor actually tried to clean my diabolos ever, but I hear cola works quite well.  Possibly the fizzier brands are better.  Just remember to wash it all off afterwards, or you could end up with mouldy cups...

Chiok
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: jammy on February 17, 2006, 09:39:49 AM
Thinners is just a degreaser! It works on any diabolo! you will have new lookin diabolos ever time!

better than buying new ones lol
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on March 26, 2006, 09:15:22 PM
I decided to clean my Circusses, and they turned out really clean :) I cleaned them, because next weekend are the Dutch juggling championchips, and my diabs have to look nice then. (sorry if the pics are a bit too big for you)

Before:
(http://www.circusplanet.net/tijn/circus_dirty1.jpg) (http://www.circusplanet.net/tijn/circus_dirty2.jpg)

after:
(http://www.circusplanet.net/tijn/circus_clean1.jpg) (http://www.circusplanet.net/tijn/circus_clean2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Arjan on March 26, 2006, 09:19:46 PM
You sure can tell the difference, how long did that took you?
Used up all of your mom`s acetone and souring pads I guess?  :P
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on March 26, 2006, 09:21:35 PM
Basically, water and a scouring pad is enough, but I also used some cif/jif (if you guys know what I mean). It took me about 10 minutes per half, and I have used one scouring pad for all 6 halfs. It wasn't that hard :)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Arjan on March 26, 2006, 09:36:31 PM
Hmm after one hour of rubbing my whole arm is always sore and full of cramp. Nice job there!
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: barnesy on March 26, 2006, 09:39:39 PM
Looks good, Tijn.  I've just done my 3 old Circusses.  I used water, a scouring pad and Jif too.  It took a lot of scrubbing, and I imagine they'll be filthy again soon, but it seems worth it right now!
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: barnesy on March 26, 2006, 09:41:36 PM
Quote from: Arjan
Hmm after one hour of rubbing my whole arm is always sore and full of cramp. Nice job there!

Yup, I can sympathise with that.  My three were almost black!
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Arjan on March 26, 2006, 09:50:16 PM
Yeah... what`s the use??  :P  You clean for a hour, can`t play properly for days and then they are black within 5 minutes because of the damn mud or gras or whatever... Okay, I should not stand there, but where else can I practice???  :roll:
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: mrpink on March 27, 2006, 02:35:34 PM
Today i found an old eraser (piece of rubber that you erase writing with, thats an eraser rigth?)
 in my drawer and thougth, what the heck maybe i can clean my diabolos with it.
And it actually worked  verry well on my white finesses, but not at all on my collored circuses. Something about the structure of the surface i reccon. I also found some tippex, but didnt dare try it...   :wink:

I think most of the dirt is small particles thats rubbs of from the sticks when corecting the diabolos. Maybe some harder material (such as titanium  8) ) migth cause less dirt.
I decided to put some glitery decorating tape on my handsticks (because it looks nice) and maybe this will affect the speed of dirt as well. If it does ill tell you about it
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Sean on March 27, 2006, 03:21:17 PM
Looking good Martijn. I just cleaned my 3 white henrys last week too.

Strangely when I put them back together they were all a bit off balance - none of them would stay straight in a shuffle after a while. I've never had that happen with the circus before. I tried swapping some of the cups and they seem ok again.

But oh how I always forget how pretty they can be when they're clean. :)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Powerade on March 28, 2006, 08:12:50 AM
It can also be that by the used acetone resolves plastic.
If you have not wiped it fast enough, it could also be passed which has made the acetone the plastic soft.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: matthewthegreat on June 24, 2006, 09:43:40 PM
This is how I clean my diabolo :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEqXMQZnFGo
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: looby on June 25, 2006, 12:47:16 AM
Quote from: matthewthegreat
This is how I clean my diabolo :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEqXMQZnFGo


Haha
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: William on June 25, 2006, 12:58:27 AM
Haha! Very nice Matthew!  :lol:  Very um.. original  :wink:
Edit: Did he/she just start licking your diabolo? Or did you put catnip or something like that on it?  :P
_____________________________________

Heeeere kitty kitty kitty..!
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Scooby on June 25, 2006, 05:11:06 AM
Thats Gold!
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Kusti on June 27, 2006, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Matt_
Quote from: xfirebladex
Maybe someone was jealous at a convention or something.  Does it whistle now?

Chiok


well the hole doesnt go all the way through..i mean its not a hole. here are pics.

(http://www.bassfishers.net/matt/lj/diabhole-o1.jpg)


I've got similiar dents in my diabolos.. They came from the 2d correction (with metal sticks).
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: tommi on June 27, 2006, 11:10:44 AM
Whoa, must be some violent corrections.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: fredo on June 27, 2006, 02:35:38 PM
got a few minor dents like these on my finesses' rim from practising vertax...
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Kusti on June 29, 2006, 12:04:03 PM
The corrections weren't violent at all.. I'm just really REALLY strong! Like superman y'know? 8)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: CirqueKid on July 01, 2006, 08:35:09 AM
I used Softscrub Bleach to clean my orange Finesses.  It really works!  When I'm done they look brand new, and looks better than ever.  At first I thought because it was bleach I might loose some of it's color, but it's still as orange as ever.  It's also worked on my HB Element, with similar results.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: nezzybaby on August 09, 2006, 01:58:43 PM
I've spent the last 4 years getting my diabolos really really dirty, cleaning them now would be distressing, and ruin all that hard work over the years. Clean diabolos say to me either im a beginner or im being paid to do this. Dirty diabolos say I love it and dont agree with wasting my freetime cleaning rather than diaboloing.

I say this now but im sure one day ill be tempted.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: frank0072 on August 09, 2006, 04:52:03 PM
I have been tempted to clean my diabolos once, and I won't do it again. two days after I'd cleaned them they were just as dirty as before, so it's no use.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Greg on August 11, 2006, 12:34:28 AM
I cleaned my Radiant diabolo and it came out real nice, looked new even

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/seaside86/dirtydiab.jpg)

My circus isnt dirty enough to warrant a clean as its only new heheh  :D
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Wayne on September 28, 2007, 04:15:13 PM
I'm using Taibolo and Fly Diabolo from Taiwan. May i know what kind of chemical should i use to clean these type of diabolos?
Some of you said that acetone works pretty well for diabolos' cup. But i heard that acetone would have some chemical react with rubber. Will that be unbalance?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Shaun on September 29, 2007, 01:28:02 AM
looks good greg!
I dont know about Tiabolo, but id just use terpentine on the flys, it worked for my circus' and yohos.Or you could just test what ever chemical you have, so just clean a small part of the cup and watch to see if it melts haha, dilute with water if it does. Maybe some else might be better answering this question haha
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: pyromancer on September 30, 2007, 04:53:51 PM
I just use warm water and a dishbrush to clean my finesse. No chemicals needed  ;)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: TomMiller on September 30, 2007, 07:03:29 PM
this might sound kinda stupid but will the water rust the axles
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Alex! on September 30, 2007, 07:40:24 PM
this might sound kinda stupid but will the water rust the axles
Unscrew them first so you are just washing the cups, or they will
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: TomMiller on September 30, 2007, 07:41:48 PM
oh then im of the clean my diabolos or try
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: barnesy on September 30, 2007, 08:04:35 PM
oh then im of the clean my diabolos or try

Tom, that post made no sense at all.  Please stop posting gibberish.  Read your posts back to yourself before you click 'post'. 
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: TomMiller on October 01, 2007, 04:44:29 PM
ok this is what i said in a better way
oh ok then im going to clean my diabolos or try to clean them. better
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: martijn on October 01, 2007, 06:23:50 PM
Nope, still not good.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: TomMiller on October 01, 2007, 08:32:20 PM
well im sorry but im not good at spelling ,and good grammar and stuff sorry
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: -Leo- on October 01, 2007, 08:33:45 PM
Hey it's an improvement. I can understand what he's saying now anyway :)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Shaun on October 02, 2007, 12:11:11 AM
Just remember to use commas Tom, makes it easier to understand.
We need a mum on this forum, one of those clean freak ones. I wonder how long it will be until someone releases a 'diabolo cleaning kit'?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Eric Moffett on October 02, 2007, 12:35:37 AM
with acetone and abrasive scrubies and the like
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: diabolofreak617 on October 02, 2007, 02:00:28 PM
I wonder how long it will be until someone releases a 'diabolo cleaning kit'?

I think that is a great idea. If only some company like Henry's could release something to clean their diabolos. They made them, they should know how to clean them, right?  ::) I guess that scouring pads and water will have to do for now (scuffs white Circus again  :-\).
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: willum89 on October 02, 2007, 06:58:07 PM
they should have a diabolo cup polishing machine like they have for bowling balls.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: cereal on March 19, 2008, 07:10:45 PM
hello

i have a mister babache diabolo , can someone tell me what the best why is to clean them?

greetz cereal
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: KnI_It on March 19, 2008, 07:42:34 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CP6ZOOfKFCk

thats a nice tutorial to clean your diabolo ;)[youtube=425,350]
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: cereal on March 19, 2008, 08:21:17 PM
ty so much

and now the serieus ones plz  :)

Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Duncan on March 19, 2008, 08:24:44 PM
Again, merged your thread into an existing one, Cereal. But do remember to use the search bar first from now on.

Have a look at the first posts in this thread for some ideas. Get ready to do some major scrubbing.

But, to make things clear, what type of Mr. Babasche diabolo do you have - there are several varieties ;). I believe most of the advice is for Henrys Circuses and Finesse diabolos.

-Duncan
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Aaron Z on October 03, 2008, 03:17:56 AM
WOOOOOOOOAH!!!11one

A long time ago when I used my White finesse a LOT, it got incredible marked-up smacking into other diabolos and dirt, things like that.

Last night I got some cotton discs, completely soaked them in Acetone (Nail Polish Remover, really) and with only one firm wipe I could clean a perfectly white stripe down the cups.

Maybe 2 or 3 minutes later, I had a completely restored finesse. The same method also worked perfectly for one of my Green Suns, which had picked up an unsightly purple streak from rubbing against some vinyl chairs. Two or three wipes and it was gone.

Acetone is GREAT for cleaning diabolos, Suns and Finesses, anyways.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: The3DevilsGuy on October 04, 2008, 03:23:38 AM
ive tried cleaning my finnese alot of ways but none worked. thanks for the info.   :)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: William on October 04, 2008, 03:30:49 AM
My idea which I haven't tried as I don't have a working vice -

Put a drill in a vice upside-down (aka poor-mans lathe) If you don't have a lathe, just try holding the drill.
Put the diabolos bolt in the wrong way, then clamp it in the drill so the cup sheilds the drill.
Turn the drill on to a moderate speed.
Wipe the diabolo with a a scouring pad dripped in acetone with small circular motions.

I'm trying this with my brutally dirty finesse when I get the time. I think it should work decent.
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: JimmyCords. on October 04, 2008, 06:08:36 AM
Hmm diabolo on a lathe.... Lazy mans way to get awesome speeds?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: William on October 04, 2008, 06:50:40 AM
Your wish is my command.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzr6d6F_kIo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzr6d6F_kIo)
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Aaron Z on October 05, 2008, 03:59:16 PM
Niiiiiiiiice. Who are these geniuses?
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Midoryu on October 05, 2008, 11:56:06 PM
This thread is starting to sound more and more like an infomercial thread..."Windex" this and "Goof Off" that...

For me, I used "Wet Towelettes" (the packaged napkins you get from airline meals).  Not worth the try, as it's like you need 2 times the elbow grease to clean your diabs off with 0.1000000001 molar of acetone...
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: monkiatzu on October 06, 2008, 04:59:18 AM
lmao you guys use chemicals,
that sounds pretty good actually, but im too worried about my suns
the way i do it is get one of those rubbers (eraser) with the side that rubbs out pen and sit there for hours rubbing off black marks which i obtained from cupboards, the tv etc
asitone... hmmm ill give it a try one day
Title: Re: Cleaning diabolos
Post by: Aaron Z on October 06, 2008, 04:09:23 PM
My dad just now mentioned to me that acetone eats all the oils and moisture in your skin, which explains now why I don't have any fingerprints and the palms of my hands are peeling like PVA glue.

Wear gloves if using acetone.
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