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Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Martin on November 20, 2004, 11:02:00 PM
mod edit: moved from Blacklight> white or glow diabolo? (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=80)

What do you think about this then?

 Diabglo Web Site  (http://www.tireflys.com/products/diabglo.asp)

 A Diabglo spining  (http://www.extremespin.com/diabolos/Diabglo-Spinning.gif)

the UV green is actually sick, the LEDS are UV too, which react with the string and then ive got these home made sticks (under construction) which have UV tape on the top and bottom with UV marker pen on them.

Ill see if i can get a picture from this Sat Nite  :wink:

safe as!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on November 20, 2004, 11:40:32 PM
I've seen these online before (and I have seen posts elsewhere asking about them but nobody knew anything about them). Martin will hopefully be letting me have a go of his soon so I'll know what the score is.

I've used henrys with lights (bit heavy) and the lights for finesse (not as nice as the ones for henrys) so it will be interesting to try out a different light based diabolo.

Does anybody use or have any thoughts on diabolo lightkits?

Seán_
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt Pang on November 21, 2004, 10:43:50 AM
I use the Finesse light kits quite often, i think they're good because they don't add much weight to the diabolo, but a bad thing about them is that they are very exposed to being damaged, and i also found that sometimes when dropped the batteries can "pop" out of their little socket, took me ages to work out why my light had gone out when it first happened! I do really like the traces they give though, because of the way the LED's are, great for photos!  :wink:

Cheers

Matt P
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: MattF on November 21, 2004, 11:14:24 AM
so are the lights an add-on or a completely new diabolo?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: murifri on November 21, 2004, 03:42:36 PM
Right now I'm using two luminous henry's with the VEGA LED kits.  The weight can get a bit much over time but as the batteries don't last that long your not likely to be playing with them for massive chunks of time.

The kits are retrofits that you can add to the diabolos that they are designed for.  I've also seen someone use a henry's LED kit in a Mr. Babache Harliquino but that was just stupidly heavy.

You get the most amazing photos on long exposure my avatar is one of my favorites.  I got loads more on my computer just taken in my living room.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: milka on November 22, 2004, 11:57:14 AM
What you can do with a Finesse :

(http://leskk.free.fr/jongle/aure%20019.jpg)

(http://leskk.free.fr/jongle/aure%20037.jpg)

(http://leskk.free.fr/jongle/aure%20012.jpg)

(http://leskk.free.fr/jongle/aure%20020.jpg)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: norbi on November 22, 2004, 02:11:05 PM
Sweet pics, do a stopover on each side and it makes a heart shape!
Theres got to be some other funky pictures from light kits, some sprinkler sun stuff would look pretty phat.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: kragen on November 22, 2004, 03:42:31 PM
wow, ive just decided to get 2 finesse rather than a second harlequin, so I might have to get some lights to go with it too now :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: murifri on November 28, 2004, 04:27:27 PM
here are some of my pics from two and one henrys Circuses with the VEGA kits.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/caroline.hearn1/images/PIC00362.jpg)

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/caroline.hearn1/images/PIC00365.jpg)

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/caroline.hearn1/images/PIC00381.jpg)

I'm sorry if the files are a bit big and take long to load or if people have any problems.

Should we start a diabolo art section??
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Arjan on November 28, 2004, 05:29:11 PM
Quote from: murifri

Should we start a diabolo art section??


Yes, but not only with these kind of images, but with general things I think. Drawings, photo`s, whatever... neat stuff.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on November 28, 2004, 10:36:42 PM
Quote from: seán_
Martin will hopefully be letting me have a go of his soon so I'll know what the score is.
Seán_


Thanks to Martin for letting me have a go.

They are sized between jazz and circus, they feel quite heavy, kind of between harlequin and performer.

The Bells are clear (with a green tint) and are flexible. Martins were a bit squared off but still ran well mainly due to the weight I think.
Being clear you should be able to see them when they are in the air, which I know can be a problem with some light kit setups.

The axles are the same ones that come with MB Rubberkings so they work well, the cones are wider (one had become chipped but was still usable)

Martin said some problems he had was because they turn on through motion some times they would turn on in his bag and the battery life is not too hot. (oh and the chipped cone but he could send of for a replacement or buy some from butterfingers i think)

They cost Martin about £20 each, they were nice enough to use but maybe not for your only set of diabolos. I'd consider getting if I was feeling a bit flush.
Title: Babache Light kits
Post by: seán_ on December 29, 2004, 12:52:43 PM
4 days and I have allready managed to break a LED loose :)

I was thinking of soldering it but I'm not so good at that. I had a word with the shop who supplied it and they said that I could send it back for a replacement which is sweet.

I was wondering if it would be worth trying to protect the light kits maybe even using the see through packaging that comes with the kits, I don't think this would affect the balance (any more than the light kits themselves). any thoughts?

The light kits themselves are nice (not as nice as the Henrys ones) and bring the finesse to a nicer weight (imho) its a pity that they are a bit exposed.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Yoda on December 29, 2004, 04:23:08 PM
Hey, I have made my at home, they use 4 Hi-blue leds, and a 3v battery (the same you use on computers)on each side, I spent less than US$10 on both (R$30 in brazil),  I'm going to make one with UV leds for my Circus Glow (Which arrives in january 17 +-),  If I get a digital camera I can make a tutorial and post here...

Its pretty simple to make, all you need is to know how to solder, and to sink a pcb on acid...

[]s
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on January 04, 2005, 03:42:17 PM
can anybody help
Static in his search for Vega light kits in the US?
http://tinyurl.com/5q3kr
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: kragen on January 05, 2005, 12:41:17 PM
wow - nice photo's

Yeah they are a little exposed - the light kits, someone else I know broke them but he went to the bristol juggling convention and the butterfingers stall had an opened kit with only one side in it, so they sold it cheap.

I would have a go at making a kit myself, but I cant see anything I can make being any more robust :(
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on January 05, 2005, 12:55:38 PM
Quote from: kragen
wow - nice photo's

Yeah they are a little exposed - the light kits, someone else I know broke them but he went to the bristol juggling convention and the butterfingers stall had an opened kit with only one side in it, so they sold it cheap.

I would have a go at making a kit myself, but I cant see anything I can make being any more robust :(


I could believe me. http://www.diabolo.morha.com/e.htm then check out diodes  maybe something along these lines?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: diabololi on January 05, 2005, 07:59:01 PM
That's a nice site seán! I was sure I invented transfers though  :( . Oh well, at least I worked them out by myself  :D

Oli
Title: Finesse's light kits (Evolution 4)
Post by: martijn on January 29, 2005, 04:13:12 PM
Hey,

I'm planning to buy 2 light kits for my red Finesses (G2 \:D/ ), and I want to have some information about it. Does someone here on the forum has any experience with it? Who can tell me some advantages and disadvantages about it?

I want to buy one red light kit, and one yellow light kit. Then, I'll mix them up (just like you can do with the cups of a diabolo) Is this okay?
Otherwise I'll go for 2 yellow ones...

And what's the *normal* price (in euros)?

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Finesse's light kits (Evolution 4)
Post by: seán_ on January 30, 2005, 12:33:57 PM
Quote from: Martijn
Hey,

I'm planning to buy 2 light kits for my red Finesses (G2 \:D/ ), and I want to have some information about it. Does someone here on the forum has any experience with it? Who can tell me some advantages and disadvantages about it?

I want to buy one red light kit, and one yellow light kit. Than, I'll mix them up (just like you can do with the cups of a diabolo) Is this okay?
Otherwise I'll go for 2 yellow ones...

And what's the *normal* price (in euros)?

Thanks in advance :)


I quite like them but they arent a patch on the vega kit.

They are a bit exposed to damage, in fact I have sent one of  mine back to the shop they came from to get a replacement.

Out of the box I had to do a bit of playing about to get one of them to work as the battery was a bit loose but that was easy enough.

Unless you have good reason I'd go for two red ones as they are much brighter (imho) when used with red finesse, I havent seen what white ones look like!.

I quite like the added weight they give to the finnese and they are about £11 so thats something like 16 euros in the UK
Title: Re: Finesse's light kits (Evolution 4)
Post by: martijn on January 30, 2005, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: seán_
Unless you have good reason I'd go for two red ones as they are much brighter (imho) when used with red finesse, I havent seen what white ones look like!

I wanted yellow lights, because most people have red LEDs, that's just so ordinary :P I don't know how yellow ones look like in a red Finesse, but I think (mixed up with a red side) it looks pretty cool.  8)

Thanks for the info m8! :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on January 30, 2005, 01:15:23 PM
I found personally that the light did not come through the shells as well with the yellow through the red shells, this made it a bit harder to use than my red one with with red leds but still better than using henrys where you cant see anything. I think the yellow look nice enough to people watching though.

does anybody know if it wouls be possible to swap the colours of leds for ones bought from an electronics shop (say to mix colours or have some unusual coloured ones) or will there be some kind of elctronic handicap to this?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Rusty on January 30, 2005, 04:13:41 PM
For swapping you need to investigate a bit. LEDs have different behaviours and need different voltage to work. But with a bit of investigation, it should not be a big problem.

Rusty, Norway
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: GbH on January 30, 2005, 11:08:29 PM
Here are my first attempts at this diabolo-art thing.  All use Diabglos.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gheathcote/Images/GbHArt/DiaboloArtBlob.jpg)

This first one is taken straight from the camera and was actually the first shot I took.  I forgot to try any movement, but I quite liked the way it came out.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gheathcote/Images/GbHArt/DiaboloGraffiti.jpg)

This next one was an amalgamation of several different trails, each of which looked fairly similar to those seen in previous posts.  However, I stuck them through a PSPro effect and got a weird graffiti-type thing.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gheathcote/Images/GbHArt/DiaboloArtWeave.jpg)

This final one came from a shot of 3low, which just ended up producing a big mess of colours.  After cropping it down a little, I just added the weave effect to make it look a bit more interesting.  I did nothing to the colours or patterns themselves.

Guy
Title: Spin tip
Post by: Hoop on March 31, 2005, 04:03:22 PM
I was messing around with different spin techniques yesterday and I found something that helped me a lot.  I thought some other members here would find it useful.  I'm know that the diabolos with patterns printed on them are useful as well, but lighted diabolos really help you see just how much spin you are getting.  I'm not sure about the vega or finesse light sets, but I was using a diabglo and it shows up very well.  It's more difficult for me to see how fast a solid color diabolo is spinning and the patterns on some diabolos tend to blur together after a certain speed.  With Diabglos however, you can see the LEDs at all times.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on April 25, 2005, 11:34:32 PM
Has anyone tried the light kits with White finesses?  I was just wondering about the shells on them, and MB say that the light doesn't come through a blue Finesse (which is fair enough, they're pretty opaque) but I wondered how the light went through a white one.  Is the white opaque, or does is still have some translucency (sp? or even a word?).  In comparison to a yellow or red finesse, what would people say it is easier for light to get through?

Chiok
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Sean on April 26, 2005, 12:43:03 AM
The whites are about as opaque as you can get. They look fine to the audience but from the performer's perspective you might as well be blind.

I think red, yellow, orange, pink, or moon (glow) are all good choices for translucency.

Does anyone have any opinions based on experience or physics as to what colour combinations (LEDs and diabolo colour) work best? The LEDs are currently made in yellow and red, right?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on April 26, 2005, 02:21:28 AM
I know some people might think this is a really idiotic idea but here it is anyway. I was wondering if drilling small holes, say close to the rim of an opaque diabolo (circus / harlequin / white or blue finesse), might allow you to see a band of light that would help you see the diabolo.
I  know the babache lights light up the bell, I'm not too sure if the henrys ones are do to the same extent.

(probbably get an annoying whistle as well)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Sean on April 26, 2005, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: seán_
I was wondering if drilling small holes, say close to the rim of an opaque diabolo (circus / harlequin / white or blue finesse), might allow you to see a band of light that would help you see the diabolo.

I've met people who have done this. Seemed to work well and the diabolos were no worse off.
Quote from: seán_
I  know the babache lights light up the bell, I'm not too sure if the henrys ones are do to the same extent.

If I remember correctly, the henrys cups don't get lit up at all; however, the lights are a bit stronger so you can see the light coming out of the sides a bit better.
Title: Diabglo video online
Post by: lev_lev on June 05, 2005, 02:36:35 AM
hey

read the thread with interest, and found this little vid of the diabglo
(NB with added colours) in the diabolo section, the second diabo-LU-mineux video down

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/petit-lu/

direct link:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/petit-lu/stock/DiaboLUmineux.wmv

looks ok, but the long exposure photos work much better with Henry's Vega LED kits or the Mr Babache finesse...

Lev
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on June 05, 2005, 09:05:54 AM
does anyone know what will be different with the new finesse light kits and when they will be available? i can't seem to find any information except the several shop sites that say new ones are coming soon.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on June 05, 2005, 12:05:06 PM
I believe the improvements are that they will be less breakable unlike before (with batteries flying out and led's going), and that the ability to recharge them is also an addition so you don't need to keep buying button cell batteries for when you manage to keep them in long enough that they run out.  If they're stronger, then they could be worth the purchase.

Chiok
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on June 05, 2005, 12:51:22 PM
oh yeah, i heard somewhere that they are re-chargeable, that'll come in handy. Hopefully there might be some new colours.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: arnie on June 09, 2005, 01:14:48 PM
hi just thought i'd point this out. i fitted my henrys light kits to my finesse
diabolos and they fit fine. had to use the henrys bolt though to attach them but there doesnt seem to be anything wrong with them. the advantage is that you get a lighter diabolo to use with your henrys kits.

steve arnold

p.s the only down side is you have to use uv cos the light doesn't show aswell through the cups. unless you are THAT good  :lol:
(http://www.stevethejuggler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/finesse_henrys2.jpg)(http://www.stevethejuggler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/finesse_henrys1.jpg)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on June 09, 2005, 07:30:33 PM
Since Henry's are opaque, I don't suppose they thought about having an LED pointed at the cup to illuminate it.  I know Henry's light kits are better quality and have a huge number of lights, they cost so much!  About the same as the Finesse that it is attached to!

Chiok
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: arnie on June 10, 2005, 01:48:17 AM
That was the problem, I couldn't see my henry's at all in the dark! they don't UV so can't illuminate the cups that way and obviously they dont illuminate themselves. through desperation and not wanting to feel completely cheated out of my money i popped them on my finesse's, jobs a goodun.

i haven't seen the finesse light kit prices but i thought compared to buying say programmable globalls it was a relatively cheap investment.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Spooned on June 10, 2005, 08:58:50 AM
Quote from: arnie
hi just thought i'd point this out. i fitted my henrys light kits to my finesse


But can you fit finesse kits to a circus? Yes i know im cheap but what can you do. Also are you saying that you cannot see your cups when you fit the light kits to circus'?? That seems like a waste of money to me :?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on June 10, 2005, 11:56:06 AM
Circuses are very opaque so light won't shine through them.  Though I do believe the Henry's lights are really quite bright so kinda make up for it that way.  The Finesse light kits I believe were £12 and the Henry's are up to £28!  Though you do get 5 more LEDs.

Chiok
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: arnie on June 10, 2005, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: Spooned

But can you fit finesse kits to a circus?



don't know about that, i don't see the point because it would have the problem of not being able to illuminate the cups.

i suppose technically you could, i don't have a finesse kit so i can't try.

to xfirebladex: i rekon the henrys kits look better in terms of the numbers of led's but the illuminated cups of a finesse are better than just a spinning set of led's.

does anyone know how to make the laser diabolos that mark nizer and martin mall use? these actually shoot beams over the audiences heads!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Elmeri on June 11, 2005, 10:18:05 AM
Is that true that there is going to be new generation of finesse leds?
And when they´re going to be out?

Sorry bout my bad english but I´m quite tired and almost in hangover...
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on June 11, 2005, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: Elmeri
Is that true that there is going to be new generation of finesse leds?  And when they´re going to be out?
Yes there will be as MB say and if you notice, hardly any retailers are selling the old ones anymore in preparation for the new ones.  They say spring 2005, then summer 2005.  So who knows?  We're all still waiting for the Evo 2 and the new sticks.

Chiok
(though I saw in the lil pamphlet you get with the Finesses, that Evo 2 would be out end of 2002, maybe I missed it)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Elmeri on June 14, 2005, 03:17:36 PM
About evo 4 new version.

I got response to day from Mr Babache: "the new lights will be in stock beginning of july about 5-6th of july" ( taken from e-mail sent to me).
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on June 14, 2005, 05:16:23 PM
Thats nice of them, seeing as I have been waiting for a replacement for one of mine that broke after a few days use for 6 months.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on June 15, 2005, 12:39:17 PM
Has everyone checked out the pictures of the new MB light kits yet? They look pretty sweet! hey are on the MB webpage
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on June 15, 2005, 01:08:50 PM
Does seem a definite improvement to encapsulate the whole module so not so many breakable bits.  Though will it still be as light (weight-wise, pun not intended) and will it have the same number of lights.  Will the recharge facility just be an added cost though, like with Aerotech balls where the chargers are not included.

to seán - shame about your kits, MB aren't fantastic on customer service are they.

Chiok
Title: New Finesse light kit
Post by: DrRobotnik on June 30, 2005, 06:57:26 PM
I've heard that Mr B is bringing out a new light kit for the finesse which will address the durability issue and be rechargable.

Is this true and if so anyone know when they'll be out? (I know what MrB is like with release dates) :x
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: DrRobotnik on June 30, 2005, 07:08:37 PM
Sorry i didnt look at the treads hard enough.....found the answer elsewhere :roll:

 "the new lights will be in stock beginning of july about 5-6th of july"

I'll be getting a couple of sets of those   :)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: dynamaniac on July 16, 2005, 12:01:25 AM
has anyone ever tried putting glow-stick liquid on a diabolo? i've opened glow sticks and put the liquid on my clothing and skin, and it doesnt hurt, stays glowing for about an hour, but i havent tried it on a diabolo. (it's the type of glow stick where you snap the middle and the chemical inside lights up).
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on July 16, 2005, 01:06:11 AM
are you sure that isnt bad for you? sounds dodgy  :roll:

if you have the balls to pour it on your skin and clothes im sure you can dump it on your diabolo :P
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on July 16, 2005, 08:41:01 AM
i often use the bendy glow sticks and attach them to teh inside of my diabolo as an alternative to LEDs. It looks quite nice and you can combine colours etc. You just have to be careful about balancing.

I guess you could pour the liquid on the diabolo but  i doubt it would be as good
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on July 16, 2005, 12:36:40 PM
I opened one up into an ashtray as the liquid dripped out but it lost it's luminescence (sp?) quite quickly.  I think it needs to be absorbed to hold glow.  Also it's not very bright unless you get the super "glows for 30min" sticks.  So I guess it could be absorbed into the rubber of the diabolo, and that doesn't seem to be something I'd advice.  But hey, someone's gotta try before anyone knows.  Or how will people advance?

Be a pioneer, maybe you'll get it named after you.  Like Johnny Flashwater or Doug Reacharound.

Chiok
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Pete on July 17, 2005, 04:23:35 PM
are the new light kits out yet i cant find. (so much for 5th-6th of july)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on July 17, 2005, 09:42:57 PM
you'll learn, Mr Babache always keeps everyone waiting ;)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Yoda on July 18, 2005, 05:55:49 PM
Babache started selling them on July 12, It's just a matter of time for it to get to the stores.

[]s
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on July 18, 2005, 06:40:20 PM
do you know of any online store that stocks them?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Pete on July 19, 2005, 09:09:53 PM
oh hurry up
those lights are supposed to be my birthday present and i need them for a big party soon
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Pete on July 19, 2005, 09:10:20 PM
hurry up!!!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on July 19, 2005, 11:25:14 PM
Chill Pete. I have been waitng over six months  for a replacement for mine and you dont hear me bitching *looks  up* ... oh yeah, forget I said that
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on July 20, 2005, 08:07:15 AM
well as soon as they come in, i expect this forum to be all abuzz, that is when i'll buy em :)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Yoda on July 23, 2005, 06:36:54 PM
I know babache is already selling them, the charger and a wall conect adapter. they come in red, blue, green and yellow, they also have the "rainbow", which is red blue green.

Just wait a little bit, I believe it's just the time for the goods being sent to the stores.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Elmeri on July 25, 2005, 10:06:02 AM
I havent seen a single store having evo 4 (G2) yet!

 I asked for one store and they told that evos are coming in next shipment.
So the shipment is supposed to come here in a month. I say thats slow...

I dont want to wait that long...  :(
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: tetsuya on July 25, 2005, 02:27:42 PM
Hi guys!
I just wsnt to say that a frind of mine make some diabololight.
They'are real good, cheap(about 2-3 euro per diabolo, dubleside!) and easy to do... I find these kit BETTER then the henry's one(because the diabolo is perfectly balanced)
You can find everything at http://gepponline.altervista.org/home.htm
under "giocoleria - costruire - diablumo"
They are Red, white and blue
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on July 25, 2005, 05:56:51 PM
When I wanted to make some light kits for my diabolo, I found that website and planned on doing it like that.  Unfortunately encountered a few problems that:
1) Film canisters especially like those ones are extrememly rare now because film now comes in foil packages (in the UK anyway).  Most of the ones I see are the pop over the rim caps which don't work that way.
2) I have Finesses which don't have a convenient centre bolt hole to attach it to.

In the end I found some LEDs in some old toys that I tore out with the circuits intact and stuck them to jam jar lids which screwed into the holes for holding Evo4 or Evo3 kits.  Crudest things in the world, not terribly well balanced, but they do work.  I wanna get some more lights to do both diabolos.

Chiok
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: DrRobotnik on July 26, 2005, 09:46:23 PM
Today i found some cheep glowsticks at my local supermarket so a got a few (20 :D ). After about an hour looking for the right screws and stuff in the garage opted of a high tech approch to mount them on my finesse....sticky tape.

 I was quite pleased with the results. So mounted a red and a blue one onto my sticks and cracked out the digital camera:

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1566/glowstick13hv.jpg)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6260/glowstick20hd.jpg)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5798/glowstick30rr.jpg)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6443/glowstick46qn.jpg)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9752/glowstick57ob.jpg)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8145/glowstick62lr.jpg)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on July 26, 2005, 11:21:14 PM
your diabolo looks like it's super super unbalanced...how are the wobbles?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: DrRobotnik on July 26, 2005, 11:59:50 PM
it feels almost normal. I think it looks wobbly because the glowsticks are  brighter at one end.  The sticks themselves are very light even compaired to my G2s. They just need to be reset every so often bacause of the tape holding them. The first picture of the diabolo on the table was taken after i dropped it, thats why the stick loks off center.

I still cant wait for the new MB lightkits tho :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Sambo on July 29, 2005, 02:58:41 PM
Quite surprised your supermarket sells glow sticks. I can only get them from fishing shops. I've gotta try this glow diabolo business.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Jonnyh on August 04, 2005, 12:09:38 AM
This quote is from awhile back in the forum:

Quote
I know some people might think this is a really idiotic idea but here it is anyway. I was wondering if drilling small holes, say close to the rim of an opaque diabolo (circus / harlequin / white or blue finesse), might allow you to see a band of light that would help you see the diabolo.
I know the babache lights light up the bell, I'm not too sure if the henrys ones are do to the same extent.

(probbably get an annoying whistle as well)


I was thinking this too, and if it was done very precisely and carefully, I think it would work. It would be especially good if you stuck LEDS actually pointing through aswell, so that they were embedded in the diabolo, thus eliminating any chance of a whistling sound.

Also, if they were UV LEDS, if you had the yellow string that henry's do which is UV reactive, it would look wicked! I tried putting that string under UV and it really does work well.

Well everyone, watch out for my Finesse Ultra (trademark) LED kits. Coming to a store near you, soon! (joke) I may have a good go at inventing some though.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Pete on August 12, 2005, 01:52:53 PM
oh c'mon mr.b i need those lights in 9 days coz im goin on holiday to cornwall and i really want to do some glow diabolo on the beach at night at my friends party.
if i dont i will ure the glow stick idea coz its cheap and it looks like it worked really well.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on August 17, 2005, 07:33:25 PM
Firetoys have just anounced in the their forum that the new babache light kits are arriving tomorrow! In 4 colours too!

Off topic a little but they also now have larger axel kits for circus diabolos!!!     Rock on!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Spooned on August 17, 2005, 10:42:40 PM
OMGWTFBBQ!!1!1 11 ! Finially, maybe in time for hoilday, i go on sunday, then again maybe not. Tis great news thanks paul.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: topher on August 18, 2005, 04:59:17 PM
guess whos orderd some  \:D/  thank god there finally out bin waiting ages. thanks for letting me know paul
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on August 18, 2005, 05:06:43 PM
I think I'm gonna order some mysaelf actually! Will have to wait a week till pay day though which sucks! :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on August 18, 2005, 05:26:58 PM
Quote from: Paul
Firetoys have just anounced in the their forum that the new babache light kits are arriving tomorrow! In 4 colours too!

Off topic a little but they also now have larger axel kits for circus diabolos!!!     Rock on!


that's sweet, when will they be available online? i waited that whole day and they arent on the site yet :p

btw, those large hub/axle for circus is interesting...i really want that black wide and light kit...if only there was a picture...
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on August 18, 2005, 05:29:18 PM
The shop I work in just got a stock in today (of the new evo G2 lights), setting some aside for the staff and friends, I think theyre already sold out.  :?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: topher on August 18, 2005, 05:31:21 PM
which shops that?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on August 18, 2005, 07:14:58 PM
They are available now. i just checked and they are on the site ready to be bought be eager beavers like us!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on August 18, 2005, 08:22:43 PM
Quote from: topher
which shops that?


Jugglers in Hockley  :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on August 19, 2005, 12:10:36 PM
Yey - just ordered mine.  Bit concerned that they dont have any chargers yet though.  Should be able to use a universal adapter with it (depending on jack connection type) otherwise I'll have LED kits with no way of getting them to illuminate.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Spooned on August 19, 2005, 03:39:15 PM
I think that they are supplied with the charge, or am i very much mistaken.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on August 19, 2005, 03:48:05 PM
I've been told there are no chargers with them yet, but they are rechargable. I guess MB is gonna make us wait some more.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Spooned on August 19, 2005, 04:57:24 PM
Damn MB, tapping us up for a bit more cash
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on August 20, 2005, 05:22:54 AM
well if they dont come with a charger what are you supposed to do when it runs out of battery??
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: DrRobotnik on August 20, 2005, 05:45:58 AM
The batteries come charged, once used they are suggesting we keep hold of these cells but use disposable batteries until  the charger is released.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on August 20, 2005, 09:04:56 AM
Well mine just arrived and I was wondering what to do without a charger, now I know.

at last, NowI can bring the g1's out of retirement.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on August 20, 2005, 09:22:51 AM
they should make them self chargeable, like a watch. the spinning motion of the diabolo charges the battery. genius..

hey sean, i dont quite get what you mean by that G1 comment, explain?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on August 20, 2005, 09:29:51 AM
Self chargeble would be great. or solar powered.

I think I'll use them on my red G1's Matt, since I have 2 white g2's, an orange and a green, that way I have a set of light diablos that because of the weight g1's will spin ok, and 4 diabolos that are normal weight so I can still practice 3 without taking the kits on an off.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Yoda on August 20, 2005, 05:57:00 PM
Weird that they are not selling the rechargers! Because Mr Babache IS selling them, and the wall connect adapter...
I believe they will be available soon, just keep those rechargeable batteries and when they are available you use them again... Or else you can make a recharger, I don't know how the jack is, but it shouldn't be very difficult...

[]s
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on August 20, 2005, 07:51:11 PM
ah, i see sean. well im actually gonna be buying a new diabolo, so far i think the moon G2 (that one is translucent too, right...?) because i have 2 white G2s and one orange...
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on August 20, 2005, 09:05:58 PM
Moon one, is that the glow in the dark one? We put one of the blue LED kits in the glow one, it was crazy. It was like a really pale but bright blue colour shine.

Oh and no matter what anyone tells you, the blue LEDs with the blue finesse do work. We got told they wouldnt shine through, but they do, and they look awesome  :o
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on August 21, 2005, 02:48:05 AM
yeah, im planning on getting a moon G2 with blue LEDs as soon as the charger is available...well ive been looking at Firetoys..if there is any other site that has all those things before that ill check it out
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on August 21, 2005, 01:37:48 PM
I have red LED kit in red G2 and Blue LED kit in blue G2. Both are great but the blue especially is fantastic.  THEY DEFINATLEY DO WORK WITH BLUE G2's.  And I think a standard 9 volt
charger should work (though you wont know when they are fully charged as with the official kit).
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Pete on August 21, 2005, 05:46:50 PM
ok, i just need to get a few things straight.

so far i think ive picked up the fact that the light kits dont come with the charger, but Mr.B is selling them. is that a fact.
 
Oh and ive bought green kits to put in yellow g2's was that a mistake?
i hope it will make a nice sort of limey green colour.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on August 21, 2005, 07:03:03 PM
The light kits, that being the Mr.Babache Finesse Gen 4 Kit, does NOT come with a charger. MB WILL be selling the chargers, although you might not be able to get one just yet.

As for the colours, it seems ok to mix them about. Apart from the normal combos, we tried a yellow kit in orange diabolos, red in yellow and orange, green in yellow. They all looked good, although i guess matching the colours seemed nice though.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on August 21, 2005, 09:43:48 PM
Heres some pictures of the new red LED kit:


(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2261/led13bv.jpg)

Dunno what happened here:

(http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1259/led29lb.jpg)

more pretty circles:

(http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/232/led33mg.jpg)

The actual kit:

(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/5849/led41yp.th.jpg) (http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=led41yp.jpg)

(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/949/led52mr.jpg)

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9289/led67og.jpg)

A nice floor shot:

(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3620/led78uy.jpg)
Even a drop looks fancy:

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9370/led88hb.jpg)

And if you bump the brightness up on this one, you'll see my bodged excalibur attempt. The one where it worked came out crap, i swear!

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8108/led96ln.jpg)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: James on August 22, 2005, 11:40:21 AM
How easy is it to put the light kits in or take them out?

And, do they come charged or do you have to do that with a standard charger before you can use them?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on August 22, 2005, 01:16:31 PM
They come fully charged, and I found putting them on really easy. They just screw into the regular 2 holes all the evo kits do.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Pete on August 22, 2005, 09:30:59 PM
What batteries should i replace the rechargeable ones with until the chargers are on sale?

How long do the batteries last once they're charged?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on August 23, 2005, 02:00:49 PM
Each unit takes 3x G13 (LR44) button batteries (thats each side so 6 batteries per diab).

Have used mine for about an hour so far on the reghargables (straight from the packet) and they are still nice and bright.  Am going away for a few days later in the week so I am saving them for that.  Will find out how long a charge lasts then and let you know.

update - Charge lasted about 3 hours on the red led kit and bout 40 mins longer on the blue (no idea why onger on the blue)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: topher on August 25, 2005, 01:52:46 PM
nice pics will. i found them extremely easy to put on. I have mixed cups (orange and yellow) with red lights and they both glow red.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on September 08, 2005, 09:44:02 PM
Quote from: Will^
Moon one, is that the glow in the dark one? We put one of the blue LED kits in the glow one, it was crazy. It was like a really pale but bright blue colour shine.


Have you got any pics of this combination* Will^ (or anybody), Work is thinking of buying some kits for upcoming UV and Light shows so I was thinking of going down this route.

There was a post on the firetoys forum talking about replacing the LEDs with UV ones as well,

*or any other UV and colours
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on September 09, 2005, 01:49:30 PM
Anyone got any news on when the chargers will be available??

ps - Instore (formerly Poundstretcher) sells a pack of button batteries that includes 6 x G13's (enough for one diabolo both sides and you get a load of spares for other stuff) for £1.  Its the cheapest I can find !!!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on September 09, 2005, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: mynci
ps - Instore (formerly Poundstretcher) sells a pack of button batteries that includes 6 x G13's (enough for one diabolo both sides and you get a load of spares for other stuff) for £1.  Its the cheapest I can find !!!
I second that.  Poundland or other pound stores often have large packs of button batteries where you're likely to find the one you need and many many more.  They're not the best brands like Varta or anything, but they'll do the trick and a damn sight cheaper.  Of course don't throw away the rechargable ones.  I've never seen rechargable button batteries, they've gotta cost a small mint.

Chiok
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: KaTurN on September 09, 2005, 05:38:56 PM
arent the new light kits alrdy enclosed in plastic of some sort

I realy dont want to buy something im going to watch shatter into a million peices
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on September 09, 2005, 06:22:15 PM
I dont think they'll shatter, they seem fine to me. A guy from work also did something like a 50ft throw and missed the catch (blamed the booze) and ended up with one of the lights a little crooked in each side, but they still work fine.

Unless you like to do Vertax/Excalibur over lots of really sharp pointy rocks, I think you should be ok.  

@séan - I dont have any pictures becuase I've only seen it at work, and never take my camera. I might be able to get a cruddy one from a phone or something, sorry.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on September 10, 2005, 03:24:50 AM
Quote from: Will^
I dont think they'll shatter, they seem fine to me. A guy from work also did something like a 50ft throw and missed the catch (blamed the booze) and ended up with one of the lights a little crooked in each side, but they still work fine.

lol - I went camping with mine and ended up with 20 or so kids around me wanting to learn. didnt get any practice in but about 15 of them learnt diabolo in two days (even to the stage of arm orbits from scratch!!!).  BUT....... most requested trick was the 'throw it as high as you can & catch it' one.  Fine in the daytime but not good at night with the LED's in strong wind.  But they still work so there you go.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on September 10, 2005, 06:33:23 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, this drop was on concrete too  :lol:

Damn kids, people wanting to learn gets annoying after a while. I get frustrated wtih people who are useless at it, although I know im just being a bastard becuase everyone has to start somewhere  :)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Yoda on September 11, 2005, 08:58:04 PM
Hey guys, I (finally) finished making my lightkits for my finesses, they work with 3 bateries and 3 leds, the leds are attached in a kind of socket, so I can change the leds anytime I want in secs, and also use any combination of colours, which looks good =]
I took some pictures of it yesterday, do you know any good space for hosting the images? so I can post them here...

They are not easy to make, but if anyone knows a little bit about making circuit boards, soldering and stuff they can be made very cheaply...

What I need now are rechargeable batteries, but I can't find them anywhere!

[]s!

P.S. White and UV leds look awesome on the white finesses  :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Monregi on September 11, 2005, 09:03:31 PM
www.imageshack.us
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Yoda on September 11, 2005, 10:07:36 PM
This site didn't open, so I used imagehosting.us, anyway, here are some pictures:

The light kit itself (ok, not very well made:oops:, but it works great!):
(http://show.imagehosting.us/show/657423/0/nouser_657/T1_-1_657423.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=657423)

UV leds (although it looks like white/blueish in the pictures, its purple live, I'll try to get better pictures someday)
(http://show.imagehosting.us/show/657427/0/nouser_657/T1_-1_657427.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=657427)
(http://show.imagehosting.us/show/657434/0/nouser_657/T1_-1_657434.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=657434)

White leds (my preference =])
(http://show.imagehosting.us/show/657441/0/nouser_657/T1_-1_657441.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=657441)
(http://show.imagehosting.us/show/657447/0/nouser_657/T1_-1_657447.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=657447)
(http://show.imagehosting.us/show/657449/0/nouser_657/T1_-1_657449.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=657449)

Blue and Green leds:
(http://show.imagehosting.us/show/657452/0/nouser_657/T1_-1_657452.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=657452)

Hope you like it!

[]s
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on September 11, 2005, 10:53:33 PM
Wow those are cool.  Looks like someone's got some experience with PCB boards.  And the colours are amazing.  How is the resilience of the kit?  Drop well or not?  How's the balance too?  Can't seem to find anything good for making kits here in the UK, Maplin is a bust even though you think it'd be the best place for electronics.

Chiok
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Yoda on September 12, 2005, 12:23:37 AM
thanks chiok!

I know a little bit about eletronics, my father is an eletric engineer, so he thought me something, I hope I'll learn a lot more on college =] (I love this stuff)

the resistence seems pretty good, at least I have not been able to damage it in any way, and I have made some pretty high throws over concrete and let it fall...
the maximum I got about damaging it was making a led fly, but after that i figured that my girlfriend didn't put them correctly on the socket.

The balance is perfect, no wobbling at all, If you look at the design, I tried to make it as radial symetric as possible, all with 60 degrees, I'm a little perfectionist in these things, I'm thinking about making new ones, because these ones are ugly, kinda prototypes, and give them to my girlfrind... :P

I don't know whre you can get stuff in the UK, I'm brazillian, and had  everything here in my house. Now I'm looking fot blinking leds, to see if I get that stroboscopic effect  :D

[]s
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on September 12, 2005, 01:38:25 AM
They look awesome, might have to go make some if I get bored of the babache ones. The strobe idea sounds great too. Maybe I could do something like this when I start my electronics course at college this year.

Quote

i figured that my girlfriend didn't put them correctly on the socket


Girls and electronics
 :roll:
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on September 14, 2005, 08:35:14 PM
Anyone know if you can use a normal 9v cable to charge the finesse kits, it seems to be the same as the adapter that MB are selling.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Arjan on September 14, 2005, 10:30:18 PM
Try it out, probably it can.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on September 14, 2005, 11:47:59 PM
Edit: Ignore me (until further notice) :)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on September 15, 2005, 01:54:24 AM
wow, that's sweet :D

btw, what does the plug look like? (where you plug it in?) seems i will be buying a light kit :)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: arnie on September 15, 2005, 02:30:50 PM
errrr yeh so i attached a 9V adaptor to a light kit thinking it would do the same as a recharger. how wrong was i?

BOOM

(http://www.stevethejuggler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/explode_001.jpg)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: martijn on September 15, 2005, 02:57:36 PM
Auch! Sorry to hear that man. Poor you...

Kids, don't try this at home! Steve is a professional! :P
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on September 15, 2005, 05:10:25 PM
Uhhh I probably shouldn't have thrown that packet away....  :shock:
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Arjan on September 15, 2005, 06:10:53 PM
Are you sure it was a 9V adapter?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: arnie on September 15, 2005, 06:25:56 PM
yeh it was one you can switch to a certain voltage and it was set to 9v for sure. if you read the wording on the packaging it says the charger can receive adaptors 9 volts of the entire world

steve *exploding his diabolos so you dont have to*
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Arjan on September 15, 2005, 08:42:34 PM
ouch that sucks... well... were sure now: don`t use other adapters!

LOL, like your quote
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on September 16, 2005, 12:42:39 AM
OK so we now know not to try and plug them into the 9v adaptor directly (It says so on the packet I believe)

So as I see it, I get two of the original light kits, due to a design flaw one breaks within 2 days,
I send back for a replacement and take the other one off (since I pretty much concentrate on 2d and dont want a miss weighted set of diabolos).
 I then wait 8 months (yes 8 months) for a replacement, as soon as they land in the UK Firetoys send me the replacement (thanks firetoys).

 I now have two kits running again, albeit a slight missmatch set  and the old kit after its 8 months (yes 8 months) holiday allready has to be kept together with tape (in reality it has had less than a weeks use).

I now have to nurse these kits untill saturday nights, short light, UV and fire show with 2cups and Tiff the juggler and Urban Circus (Saltaire festival, pop along IF you are in the area). Then I have to wait for the official charger to come on sale, BUY it and a 9 volt adapter and then in a matter of days when my old type one finally stops working I'll have to also buy a replacement for that.....

/takes big breath, goes to lie down in a dark room
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on September 16, 2005, 08:58:25 AM
damn sean_, you've gotten quite the runaround from MB eh?

i hope that when i buy the light kit(s) i dont have to go through so much hassle  :?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on September 16, 2005, 10:57:46 AM
Cheers for the pm seán_

Ok just to clear this up once and for all - I only said I thought a standard 9v charger would work (as it says that a 9v adapter will work on the packet that the kits come in) and other people have also come to this assumption.  Since then however, having seen a picture of the charger it seems that the unit is in two parts i.e a black adapter type bit that plugs into the wall and a grey box with two outputs (one for each side of diab).  It apears that it is the black bit which would output 9v (and this bit could be substituted for any universal 9v adapter)  i.e this would be the input voltage for the actual charger unit (the grey bit).  Unfortunately no-where does it state the output voltage of this part (the bit that actually plugs into the units and does the charging).

I dont have a multimeter so have not measured the output voltage of the rechargable batteries supplied with the unit but I would best guess they are 1.2v Ni-MH (AG13 / LR44 non rechargeable button cells are 1.5v).  

Continues next post

EDIT: Ok - given my estimate that the batteries supplied are 1.2v (anyone with a multimeter want to check this out and give us the actual output?) then I used the thinking that I can slow charge at this rate i.e. 1.2v input charge.  The actual official charger may be higher for faster charging but I kept to 1.2v for safety.

Given the above I recharged one of my units (didnt want to screw them all up) for 30 mins only at 1.2v.  This did recharge the unit a bit and I think it should work (may take a long time to charge and there is no way of knowing when they are charged or prevent overcharging though!). As I was unsure of the long term effects on the batteries and the fact that Ni-MH button cells are not easy to get hold of, I decided not to go down this route and I decided to just use standard AG13/LR44 batteries until I get a charger unit from Mr B.

My advice would be - if in doubt (or you cannot afford to replace the unit if it all goes wrong) - use normal batteries until you can get a charger !! (but keep the rechargeables safe).

ps. this site has chargers in stock ! (french though) http://www.tete-en-lair.com/index.php?catid=1_51_53
edit - and spare batteries yey !![/u]
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on September 16, 2005, 06:25:41 PM
might try them out, they've also got the evo2 kit listed but none in stock, if anyone gets the charger can you tell us how good they are
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on September 16, 2005, 08:48:07 PM
wow holy crap that recharger is expensive! i hope somewhere else will have it for less...
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Elmeri on September 17, 2005, 12:07:40 PM
I wouldent say expencive... In marseille (where I'm rigth now) is expencive, my finesse moons was 40€ each, and if I'd buy Evo 4 here it would be 25€ each, thats expencive.
 Even in Finland it's cheaper.
Maybe I order Evo 4 (and charger) through internet... Depends if my card works in internet...
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on September 17, 2005, 07:31:42 PM
man that's expensive, i got my finesses from Firetoys which is 20 pounds (about 30 euros). the evo4 kit is 11 pounds (16 euros). if you have the means of ordering off the internet i suggest checking them out, www.firetoys.co.uk
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Elmeri on September 17, 2005, 09:18:59 PM
Yup...

Thats why I'm buying only diabs there (only 'cause I've allready ordered them  :( )  and every other prob i'm gonna order through internet.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Hoop on September 20, 2005, 08:53:32 PM
Alright, I'm going to say this upfront... I have two questions that are probably answered somewhere in this post.  I honestly have read most of it before, and I don't feel like reading the whole thing again.  Sorry Norbi.  1.  I want to get the light kits for finesse, but I am in the US.  Are the kits upgraded from the old damage-prone style, and what is up with the rechargable batteries issue?  Or should I just go with the vegas?
2.  Does anyone know about switching out the hubs in diabglos?  I have a few that are cracked and I'm wondering what I might be able to switch them with.  (compatable diabolos)  
Thank you for your understanding.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: bruce on September 30, 2005, 03:54:15 AM
I am in Singapore and I have just purchased the Finesse Light kit - Green with a green G2 from firetoys. I practised with it in total darkness and performed at a local night club and am very pleased with it. I have dropped it a number of times - only in practice :wink: and that was just to prove to myself that it wont break :wink:

Quote from: Hoop
I want to get the light kits for finesse, but I am in the US.  Are the kits upgraded from the old damage-prone style.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Hoop on September 30, 2005, 04:34:50 AM
Cool, I really want to get some.  What is the deal with the charger though?  Do I have to buy a voltage converter to use it in the US?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on September 30, 2005, 01:27:57 PM
looks like MB are releasing them on october 1st according to firetoys and if you plan to charge them use a 4.5V positive adapter, 9v is for when you charge both sides using the MB charger adapter splitter thing

http://www.firetoys.co.uk/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=982&forum=4

It's all on there so check it out
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on September 30, 2005, 03:25:07 PM
They said Tuesday the 1st but the 1st of October is a Saturday, so I figured that they meant Tuesday the 4th of October
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on September 30, 2005, 04:46:51 PM
hey, steve got a little shoutout on there!

anyway, Hoop brought something up i hadnt thought about....how are we americans going to deal with the power adapter? obviously UK and US are on different electricity standards... i should just go find a 4.5v adapter..
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on September 30, 2005, 05:44:22 PM
Us brits have to get a euro to british pin adapter, so we're at disadvantage too
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on September 30, 2005, 11:55:59 PM
im guessing it uses a euro cable and the rest of the world is just gonna have to deal with it.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Yoda on October 01, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
If I remember correctly, the difference about european and american pins is not very big is it? (I live in brazil, but I have bought some stuff, and the maximum I had to do was to file a little bit of some pins)...
The main "problem" there would be is that (again, if I am not mistaken) the europeans use 50Hz Vca, and americans use 60Hz Vca, so in the charger would be  some seconds faster lol...

[]s
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on October 02, 2005, 11:02:07 PM
bit of interesting information on the firetoys forum (http://www.firetoys.co.uk/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=13432#forumpost13432) about evo 4s

basically boils down to
Quote
WARNING to those who are sourcing their own chargers, although on the back of the packet the LED kits come in, it says you need a 9V charger, this is what plugs into the splitter. SO if you are plugging directly into the kit you actually want a centre +ve jack giving out 4.5V. If you do plug a 9V directly into your kits the batteries will get very hot and explode in about a minute!!!


mumble mumble inept babache unsafe packaging advice, could have burtn steves house down do they think I'm made of money etc etc mumble mumble
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: looby on October 05, 2005, 01:13:04 PM
Good news guys and girls. Firetoys has the evo 4 charger in stock. It seems you need to buy a splitter and have the option of buying a Mr B 9v charger. You can use your own 9v charger as long as it meets the requirements outlined (you don't wanna go and do a Steve now do you  :wink: ).

http://www.firetoys.co.uk/juggling/Mr_Babache_Evolution_4_Kit_splitter_charger.html#aBF_2fEv4_2fsplit
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on October 06, 2005, 02:00:43 AM
sweet, just picked up a yellow G2, red LEDs, and the splitter. ill eventually get the 9v charger from Radio Shack or somewhere.

41 quid down the drain, oh well, if they are cool ill probably be spending more to get another one for 2D nighttime fun...the only question is whether to get same colors or different....well, that's a question for the future...cant wait to get them :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: looby on October 10, 2005, 10:52:09 PM
does anyone based in the uk know a high street store/website which sells 9v mains chargers. I've looked on the net but the only chargers they have are battery chargers. Ta in advance
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on October 11, 2005, 06:31:01 PM
Advice required from fellow finesse users.

Here's the deal: I already have a red finesse with a red light kit and i have an orange finesse, which light kit should i get for my orange finesse??

All advice welcome
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on October 11, 2005, 07:55:31 PM
get a red one so it matches...symmetry is always good ;)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on October 11, 2005, 08:48:02 PM
hmmm, dunno, ithink two different will look grovier, especially as my finesses are different colours
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Louster on October 12, 2005, 04:22:27 PM
I just got the babache recharger, and I was wondering if anyone knew what the LEDs on it meant? My LED kits were at about half or quarter charged or so (pretty dim, but not totally gone) and I'm charging them up, but I'm not sure what the flashing LEDs on the charger represent - they seem to be blinking, and getting slower as it's charging, but uhh... how will I know once it's fully charged? There don't seem to be any instructions and I'm somewhat wary of overcharging.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: topher on October 12, 2005, 04:25:53 PM
eggy yellow leds look quite good with an orange diab
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on October 12, 2005, 05:51:04 PM
excellent, i've ordered a yellow kit, now i can put a red and a yellow on each one and make the illusion of them changing colour just by flipping them over
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Spooned on October 12, 2005, 08:26:57 PM
Got two sets the other day only in one set there was one washer missing, and it says you shouldn't use them without the washers. I've e-mailed firetoys but am wondering if you guys had any advice?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on October 13, 2005, 02:04:40 PM
the washers are very important, i've tried without them but the kit is not on tight so any impacts will be amplified. THey are very fiddly and easy to lose so i've glued mine to the kits. Firetoys should send you one, they're usually good like that
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Spooned on October 13, 2005, 03:49:19 PM
Alrite cheers, till then ill try and source my own, still waiting for a reply from firetoys though.  :(
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on October 14, 2005, 11:23:13 PM
i got my yellow G2 and light kit today. through no fault of firetoys, i received a diabolo where one of the screw holes has no threads.

you heard it right--no threads. i was wondering why i couldnt screw it in there...then i checked it out and sure enough, no threads! really strange eh?

i did go and put the lights on my orange G2 w/Evo1...man that thing weighs a ton, it feels like it weighs much more than my Circus(es).

im not really sure what to do with the yellow one...should i tell firetoys? it's not really their fault...i took some pics but they didnt come out that great  :?
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on October 15, 2005, 01:50:37 AM
Definatly tell them, it might not be their fault but if theyve shipped a faulty product its not yours either. If it is faulty, then they can send it back to the manufacturer. They should be happy to replace it for you.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on October 15, 2005, 02:12:28 AM
that's exactly what i dont want to do, have to ship it back, then wait some more blah blah...if they were a store down the street i can understand, but i dont really want to pack it up again, pay for shipping all that crap.

anyway, here are some pics of it installed to my orange diabolo.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4002.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4003.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4004.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4005.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4006.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4007.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4008.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4010.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/hushypushy/evo4011.jpg)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Andy on October 27, 2005, 05:09:22 PM
hey, just a bit of info for you guys...

I bought myself a couple of light kits a while ago and have since then been getting annoyed cos i couldnt recharge them. Went into B&Q today and got one of those multi adpator things where you can change the voltage and all that.
got back home and was eager to charge, put the settings/adaptor what i thought would work and nothing.

after a bit of fiddling with a multimeter i discovered i had the polarity the wrong way round - i was drainging the batteries....

so i changes this and hey presto! Also noticed that the adaptor i bought output 4.5V when on the 3V setting and 6.3V when supposedly 4.5V.

Anyway, this charger was only a £5!!!!!!!!! easily worth it. just remember that when charging - the inner part of the jack socket should be negetive and the outer part positive!!

hope this helps peoples pockets!
Andy
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Punkerpanda on November 03, 2005, 02:56:57 AM
Hey, i was just lookign at higginsbrothers.com and i noticed these beauties
http://www.higginsbrothers.com/buyrainbowlights.htm

i was wondering if anybody has bought them or knows how they look. the description sounds really sweet, and i'm thinking about saving up to buy them and the recharger.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: DrRobotnik on November 03, 2005, 04:14:53 AM
Sweet......I've not seen those.  Anyone know if they are available in the UK?

Pete
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Will^ on November 03, 2005, 11:01:40 AM
Sounds awesome, if the juggling order hasnt gone through yet I'll get the manager to check if we can stock them. If we can, other shops must be able to.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: g0t on November 03, 2005, 02:34:27 PM
Ive got those lights, pretty cool in the dark. But they dont really shine through the cup of like a blue diabolo :(
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: martijn on November 03, 2005, 02:43:14 PM
Quote from: g0t
Ive got those lights, pretty cool in the dark. But they dont really shine through the cup of like a blue diabolo :(

Yes, but that's only because white and blue Finesse's are not translucent (but opaque? is that right?). These ligtkits rock! :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on November 03, 2005, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: Martijn
Yes, but that's only because white and blue Finesse's are not translucent (but opaque? is that right?).


yep ;) it goes like this:

transparent, i.e. glass
translucent, i.e. the shower door, most finesse
opaque, i.e. wood or blue/white finesse
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: norbi on November 03, 2005, 06:20:32 PM
nice explanation Matt.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on November 04, 2005, 09:34:48 AM
As I posted somewhere before in this thread.  The blue lights definitly DO shine through in a blue G2 (and they look fantastic).  In fact I'd say my blue light / blue G2 diab lights up even beter than my red light / red diab combination.  (Neither light kit shines through a white G2 though - or rather they do but very very faintly).  

I'll get a photo either tonight or tomorrow for you of all the combinations I have at my disposal.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on November 08, 2005, 01:46:47 PM
Mmmmm.  Seem to have misplaced my camera so cannot post promised pictures.

Here is a still from my camcorder which shows the blue diab though - sorry for the low quality (dont know how to de-interlace it)

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7879/ledfan7ns.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Its taken from this short vid I shot last night (1min 28secs - 2.6MB)

http://mynci200.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/diabolo/LED_blue_red.wmv

The side on bit clearly shows that the blue LED kit does shine well through the cup of a blue G2.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on November 08, 2005, 02:04:13 PM
The blues seem like pretty powerfull lights to glow through the blue cups.

I used works lumo G2's with blue light kits for a fire and light gig on Sunday and they look very sweet, I think there must be some uv element to the blues because my yellow string seemed to glow quite well
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on November 10, 2005, 02:34:17 PM
Ok - found the camera so here are the promised pics.

Here is a pic of the red LED in red G2 & Blue LED in blue G2.  Although the blue does not shine through at the very edge (rim) of the cup, it certainly shines through the rest.

(http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/5674/ledbr2ti.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The blue light kits shine great through the red diab but the red light kit does NOT shine well through the blue diab (small dot of light but does not light the cup at all - bit like the red kit in the white diab below).

Here is a pic of the red light kit (top cup) & blue light kit (bottom cup) in a white G2

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3927/ledwhite5dy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The red light kit hardly shows through at all but the blue kit does light the cup faintly (enough to be useable in darkness).  They look kinda ghostly in action (from the players viewpoint) but should be very bright for spectators  :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on November 10, 2005, 09:13:25 PM
hmmm strange- the pics do not show on this computer (home) yet they were displayed fine at work

Can other people see the photo's in my last post or is it just my firewall???
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: martijn on November 10, 2005, 09:24:21 PM
Yes, I can see them.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Mithew on November 10, 2005, 09:41:46 PM
me too, i can see the pictures fine. im getting the rainbow diabolo lights from higgens brothers for christmas, cant wait!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Marc on December 10, 2005, 09:46:12 PM
Here are some pics that i took last night with my brother (chris_cabry). I used two G2's - green and pink- with red and green light kits. And there is a picture of some glow sticks (http://www.myorigin.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/stickes.JPG) at the end.

click here for pictures (http://www.myorigin.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=0)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Punkerpanda on December 10, 2005, 09:52:36 PM
nice pics.
my question though is, how did you make the sticks? i'm looking for a permanent way to make goodlooking glow in the dark sticks. for my last show i just taped very small glow sticks to my sticks, which works ok, they look good, but sometimes get in the way.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Marc on December 10, 2005, 09:56:31 PM
Quote from: Punkerpanda
nice pics.
my question though is, how did you make the sticks?

i just stuck some led's at the end of them.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: chris_cabry on December 10, 2005, 10:55:58 PM
my favorute pictures would have to be  the sprinkler (http://www.myorigin.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=17), number 23  (http://www.myorigin.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=22)i have  Forgoten what thats was and the s-fan  (http://www.myorigin.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=9)side view.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: DrRobotnik on December 15, 2005, 09:19:29 PM
Woo Hoo! Its near Christmas! This means there is lots of cheap flashing tack to buy. Say good bye to the santa hat and hello to more home made light kits. Heres some pics, the last one was an attempt at a face  :lol:

http://www.picshosted.com/v/1529
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on December 16, 2005, 10:53:05 PM
i just got my multi coloured kit and i have to say that i'm quite impressed, i'll post photos soon
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on January 24, 2006, 04:48:07 PM
Anyone else seen this
http://www.firetoys.co.uk/juggling/Adapter_kits.html

An adaptor that allows you to use the Babache light kit (& weight kits) with Henry's Jazz, Henry's Circus, Babache Harlequin, Babache Rubberking, Radiant medium and Jumbo Radium.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on January 24, 2006, 05:48:34 PM
wow, interesting. that sure seems like it makes for very heavy circuses though....
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Chiok on January 24, 2006, 06:03:47 PM
That is a good idea now.  Guess they can remove
Quote from: Firetoys
Only compatible with the Babache Finesse diabolo.
from the Finesse attachments.  Such a simple idea, good thinking to whomever thunk it.

Chiok
Title: White Finesse with Evo 4 light kits?
Post by: Ginger_Tom on January 25, 2006, 03:46:13 PM
I was just wondering whether my white finesse which I have ordered will work well with the light kits, say, for example I buy green Evo 4 light kits will my diabolos glow up green?
Cheers.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on January 25, 2006, 04:09:35 PM
it will work perfectly fine, but since the white finesse is opaque it will shine through really faintly (as opposed to lighting up the cups completely like the translucent colors do).

if you want the "full" experience (aka both cups that look lit up and such) then dont use blue or white G2s
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: OLOBAID on January 27, 2006, 11:05:42 PM
Many questions at once! :?:

Does anybody use the Evol. Kit 4Rainbow with recharger?
How long should i recharge them - till the indicators stops blinking at all?
Is it better to let them run out of batt. before reloading them?
is it normal that the red LEDs last longest! how long can you play with full brightness?

I'm thinking of changing to the normal Evol. Kit 4(without colorchange), does any body know which color is th brightest and how long the akkus will last? I got 2 finesse diabs yellow/orange mixed - are the finesse moon more translucent?
are there any handsticks with leds?

thanks,
peter
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on January 27, 2006, 11:13:37 PM
well i have the red ones....they dont seem to last that long, actually. less than an hour i'd say, probably way less. i always charge them until the light is solid, i think that means they are done. i start charging them when the light starts getting dim...i really dont want to "wear them down", because the dim(mer) light isnt very pleasant to watch
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on January 28, 2006, 03:25:47 PM
My red lights last about 45 minutes. Its kinda crap really!!!

So anyways I bought 2 Finesse moon diabs with a blue kit and green kit and they look amazing!!!!!!!  Ultimate light diabolo i reckon. The green and blue kits also last for about 3hours worth of light which is ace too.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on January 28, 2006, 07:12:49 PM
wow, so the red lights are battery suckers? interesting.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: OLOBAID on January 29, 2006, 12:40:01 AM
I got 2 rainbow colorchange kits on mine and they really look superb, but only for 20 minutes, then the blue and the green light becomes weak very fast. The red remains about 1 hour.
The leds are colorchanging, they are not only 3 different colored leds -
so when the bat is low, in the changing interval the red ligth remains and when blue or green should be lit, the diabs are nearly dark :cry:  - really sucks!
I dont know if the 3 akkus are working together or one for each led, do you? gonna swap bats, then i'll know.

think i'll get me some not colorchanging kits too...
thanks for information
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on January 29, 2006, 08:14:50 AM
yeh my multi coloured kit dosn't last as long as my red and yellow kit. I think they are finished charging when the lights stop blinking
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on February 02, 2006, 07:24:54 PM
might have been mentioned before but i need to find out quickly for a mate:

do blue light kits look good in a blue finesse? cos i know blue finesses aint good with lights i was wonder if their ok with blue kits
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: nev on February 02, 2006, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: eggy900
might have been mentioned before but i need to find out quickly for a mate:

do blue light kits look good in a blue finesse? cos i know blue finesses aint good with lights i was wonder if their ok with blue kits


Then may I point out that reading the thread before you post is usually a LOT quicker than waiting for someone to reply to a question that has already been coverered.  The answer you seek has been discussed here several times - there are even pictres of a blue finesse / blue light kit!!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: OLOBAID on February 03, 2006, 12:06:39 AM
Is the Finesse Moon translucent or not? Need to know because i want to order a pair of them soon! If yes, how much light comes through, are they comparable to the yellow ones?
There is a G2 version of the Finesse Moon, or not? :?:
Is there anything else i need to know about moons together with Evo4?
Thanks :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: OLOBAID on February 03, 2006, 12:16:14 AM
I forgot...  
Evolution Kit 4...
If the blue is the brightest, which color would make the second place?
For me red seems to be the looser in brightness things!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on February 03, 2006, 12:27:34 AM
The moon ones are translucent, possibly not as much as the yellow but I haven't much experience of them. We use moon g2's with blue lights in our light shows at work and they look very nice, I think there might be a bit of a UV effect thgere. Moon and green is sypposed to be a nice combo but I havent seen it.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on February 03, 2006, 04:01:49 AM
I'll sort out a picture of my two moon Finesse with my blue and green lights in so everyone can see how cool they actually are!!!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on February 03, 2006, 04:12:02 AM
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/476/bluegreenmoonfinesse3ri.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Here we go as said. Sorry bout the quality. Had to be really quick before my camera batteries died!

The batteries are actually dying on the blue and it is not as bright as it would normally be but they still look mint.

Hope this helps everyones questions about moon finesse being translucent and if they work well.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: OLOBAID on February 03, 2006, 10:27:29 AM
Thanks!!! :D
That was i wanted to know! As i want to stay away from the poppy colors(cups), the Moon is the only choice. I had the fear that its like the white - opaque!
Im tendig between 2 blue ledkits or 1blue 1green. Think i'm going to mix up blue/green so i can decide which color/side the audience will see!
I hope i'll finally get the start with 3 ](*,) but its like runnig up against a wall!
Thanks again, people!
You helped me a lot :D
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Paul on February 05, 2006, 03:27:06 AM
no probs. Anythin I can do glad to help
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Andy on February 09, 2006, 05:17:31 PM
This week I found some rainbow LEDs for sale and decided to mod my finesse light kits. They look AWESOME! Each LED has its own timer to fade through 7 colours so while they'll start off in phase, they go out of phase after a while producing multi coloured pattens that look crazy.
have a look at:

http://www.jugglethis.net/filemgmt/singlefile.php?lid=482

The LEDs were about £1 each off ebay and well worth it, though i dont know how much rainbow kits are normally in england (if you can get them).
all i can say is mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: fredo on February 09, 2006, 05:39:38 PM
WOW That looks awesome! :shock:  Very cool!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Sean on February 09, 2006, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: Andy
This week I found some rainbow LEDs for sale and decided to mod my finesse light kits....
http://www.jugglethis.net/filemgmt/singlefile.php?lid=482
Neat! Finesse Evolution 4: Epileptic Seizure Edition. :)
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Andy on February 09, 2006, 11:00:38 PM
haha blame my lame camera - the light look even better 'in real life'
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: jammy on February 25, 2006, 02:53:45 PM
i havet ad a problem with my evo4 light kits! only thing i have to mine is,taken the spaces off and put tape over back or boards then put em back on!they r deeper in the diabolo now!
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: hammerhead on February 27, 2006, 04:38:52 PM
the only problem i find with the evo 4 kits is that the screws are easy to loose :shock:
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on March 11, 2006, 12:41:25 PM
i just ot my second set of MB rainbow kits and they look crazy with 2D, i'll try and get some photos tonight
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: eggy900 on March 11, 2006, 10:50:21 PM
Here's the photo and also a video (raw unedited so excuse the drop and lack of music)

http://www.archive.org/download/2_Diabolo_multi_colour_glo/100_7938.MOV

(http://www.archive.org/download/2_Diabolo_multi_coloured_glo/multiglo.jpg)
Title: Washers
Post by: Evan on April 02, 2006, 05:20:55 PM
Hey I have lost a washer anyone know the dimensions or suggestions as to what they can be replaced with?
Title: Pics i was told i had to post...
Post by: Dinkino on August 19, 2006, 07:32:29 AM
This me playing with my orange finesse with blue led light kit...

Dont ask what setting it is on i have no idea one of my friends ex girlfriends took the pictures...  I havent been able to replicate them at all myself

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n76/Dinkino/DSC00238_LOW.jpg)

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n76/Dinkino/DSC00249_LOW.jpg)

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n76/Dinkino/DSC00241_low.jpg)

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n76/Dinkino/DSC00240_low.jpg)
Title: Pix
Post by: Mathias P. on August 19, 2006, 07:42:35 AM
The Pix are fine.
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If you wanna be a Diabolist, be one. Otherwise leave it.

Mathias P.
Title: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Matt_ on August 19, 2006, 08:34:14 AM
wow, you're moving that diabolo pretty fast---those are only one second shutters.
Title: Re: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Kobe on September 30, 2006, 11:25:58 AM
Ehm, sorry if its answered already. But I've bought henry's vega X/1 with rechargeable batteries but i dunno how to charge them. I have a rechrager... Which switches do I have incite? I have already tried much but I do not want that they explode.

EDIT: Its about a year later and I still dont know exactly how to recharge them...
Doesn't anybody knows how to do it?
Sorry for bumping up the topic.

Kobe
Title: Re: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: Eric Moffett on May 31, 2008, 03:31:31 AM
I know this thread is old but it's really important to share what I found... I don't know if others have noticed and reported on this but:

I was going through my Evo4's and found that some wouldn't light, ok dead batteries, though on some I noticed they were touchy especially on some of the batteries so I decided to take them out. What I found was a dirty, dirty, contact after a cotton swab and some alchohol even some that wouldn't light at all turned on right away! So before you throw out your batteries or god forbid light kits because they're busted, and it's not a broken connection or cracked circuit board, try cleaning the contacts AND batteries they have contacts too ;)

In short, periodically clean the contacts on the kit and the batteries if your still using rechargeables. I used cotton swabs and rubbing alcohol.
Title: Re: Diabolo light kits (Ev. 4, Vega, Diabglo...) DANGER
Post by: seán_ on May 31, 2008, 04:13:59 AM
Nice tip Eric, I'll add this one as well, sometimes Evo4's are a bit temperamental to how they are attached, sometimes if they are giving you trouble try slightly loosening (or tightening) the screws.
Title: Finnese led
Post by: Egad! on July 03, 2009, 08:21:05 AM
Recently i bought led's for my finnese(evo kit) and only one worked.  I got a free set because mine where broke and when they arrived, neither of them where of high quality.  Does anybody else feel let down by the kits. I had blue and mabye thats why they didnt work too well, but please leave me your thoughts
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