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Title: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: diabololi on November 25, 2004, 10:17:31 AM
I always use wrapped orbits, but I have heard that chinese acceleration is better, should I try and learn it, or keep with what I am happy with?

Which way do you lot use?

Thanks
Oli
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: seán_ on November 25, 2004, 11:44:49 AM
Better?

Tell who ever told you that if they ever were to witness Bulgarian power thrusts* they'd soon know what method was better.

I quite like wrapped orbits, and Chinese whips and snaps.  they basically all do the same thing.
Theres a whole set of them here http://diabolotricks.com/Addspin.htm

Sometimes I just roll the diabolo enough to get it started and then do a series of tricks to get the speed up eventually. (orbits, suns etc).

Really I'd say just use which ever method you like. Some people would sugest that if you are performing if you use a few different methods the uninitiated will take them for tricks (which they are when you think about it but you get what I mean).

Seán_

*trick might not exist
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: diabololi on November 25, 2004, 12:07:44 PM
Yeh, I guess you're right. Has anyone here come up with an original way of speeding their diabolo up?
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: kragen on November 25, 2004, 12:44:09 PM
nope, but im working on it, just some combination of power orbits chienese whipping, just to make it look a little more intresting for stage performances :)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Sean on November 25, 2004, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: diabololi
Has anyone here come up with an original way of speeding their diabolo up?

Wow, that's a loaded question ;) There are TONS of original ways people have developed and will develop to speed up a diabolo - far too many to list on a forum. I'll mention one cool way to start and accelerate one diabolo (and no, I didn't think of this myself, Priam showed me - I don't know who first thought of it): put the diabolo on the ground with a normal backwrap on it and hold only the right stick (for righties). Quickly lift the stick, giving it some initial speed, and start using an infinite suicide to accelerate the diabolo.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Arjan on November 25, 2004, 03:51:08 PM
Wrapped orbits do the job for me. If your talking about one. My coolest way of starting 2 diabolo`s was soem weeks earlier the video of the week with the darkside S-Fan start.
But speeding up one... orbits do the job. Sometimes I use chinese acceleration.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: martijn on November 25, 2004, 04:44:34 PM
I use the wrapped orbits and chinese whips... :D
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: QUOTH on June 22, 2005, 10:20:58 PM
imhappy with normal whips, and ive found away to get some speed but im wondering about all the terms i here[like chinease/japanese whips, ect] and would appreciate some advice :)

at the moment i just wrap the string and sort of do verry tiny orbits. just roll the diabolo aling the string from right to left quickly then give the diabolo enough slack whilst moving my hands back to the starting position so i can repeat without losing speed. i hope that made sence. it works but id like something a tad more elegant, whilst still being effective.

so, anyone got suggested methods for me?
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Llama_Bill on June 22, 2005, 10:32:30 PM
That is a very small wrapped orbit just make the movement of the diabolo bigger and you'll be able to get all the speed you want, I find a left back wrap most effective.  The acceleration is Chinese whips (Japanese whips are an extremely cool slack trick and can be found here (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=728)) look here (http://diabolotricks.com/Addspin.htm) at Chinese Whip Thrusts and Chinese Snaps.  The main thing is to keep your left hand nice and relaxed and the acceleration is less likely to go wrong if your string is okay.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Roysta on June 22, 2005, 10:44:42 PM
I feel obliged to elaborate on what Llama_Bill means by "go wrong" ;-)

If the diabolo is going too fast and you have a wrap around it, it may bind.  It will "stick" to the string and suck it all in to the spool, until the axle of the diabolo hits the end of your handstick.  

If you are holding the handstick loosely it can be pulled out of your hand and then whip around to crack you on the knuckles.  If you are using aluminum handsticks they might gouge a divot in your axle.  If you are using fiberglass handsticks they will sometimes shatter, occasionally putting splinters in your hand.

Good chinese whipping technique will make this a lot less likely to happen.  Also the slicker your string the less likely it will bind.  If you find that binds are happening often, you probably need to change your string.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: QUOTH on June 22, 2005, 10:57:07 PM
so japanese whips arnt acc tricks? ok.

i cant get chinease anything, the diablo just creaps along the stick to the left, away from my whipping hand.

another thing i can do is do the simple start with 2 diabolo's[been trying it with one for now] where when you have one spinning you just wrap the second diabolo in the right string and get it spinning before you let it drop to start orbits.

ps, please correct me if im using the wrong terms  :wink:
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Llama_Bill on June 22, 2005, 10:58:41 PM
Hold the left stick higher and looser and it should work.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: QUOTH on June 22, 2005, 11:21:11 PM
tell me about it, its happened loads. got used to dealing with it and finally got more sting in the post today.

looser where? for the whips are you accelerating in the up whip or down whip, or both  :? im asking so i know when to loosen. i feel slightly foolish asking so many questions, tho we all have to find out sometime
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: seán_ on June 23, 2005, 01:17:56 AM
You can accelerate in the up whip using the right hand on its own, you can also accelerate using the left on the down (bit trickier IMHO), at least thats how I find it.

Theres some links earlier in this thread to the diabolotricks.com section that deals with speeding up using various whips and wrapped orbits

You might also want to check out this thread Tricks that add spin (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=326)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: QUOTH on June 23, 2005, 06:29:40 AM
ive searched and found that thread, thanks :)

hopefully this will be enough to learn chinease whips, ill give it ago, all seems alittle more clear now.

and i can see what i was doing wrong.


MOD: Deleted q about 2d, moved it to starting 2 (http://diabolo.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7746#7746)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Diab_olik on June 23, 2005, 08:57:33 AM
With one diabolo, i mainly use orbit wrap acceleration, and chinese acceleration. (I'm rightee, so for leftee, replace left by right)

 :arrow: Chinese acceleration: No doubts that it's the quickest way to speed up your diabolo. You can do it in different ways. You can can make quick and short up-and-down moves with your right hand with the diabolo near to the right stick. I'd rather like to make smooth and large moves. When i do this acceleration the diabolo go slowly between 20 cm upper the floor and over my head, but it's very efficient and pretty i think.

 :arrow: Wrap orbit acceleration: It is an efficient way to accelerate a diabolo to, and it's a discrete way too, betweens some suns. A way to hide this acceleration is to do a right between-arms-suns but with a wrap at end, then one orbit with the wrap, and then you remove the wrap with a left between-arms-sun.

Chinese acceleration is more efficient, because the diabolo is speeded up during the move up, and the move down.

As Sean has said, there is lots of pretty ways to accelerate diabolo, inifinite suicides, a series of chained mini-genocide, arms, legs or body orbits, et cetera...

Pierre
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Spink on June 23, 2005, 12:18:56 PM
Ginger Tom form Pontefract has a really flowy chinese whip that looks like no one elses i have seen.

You'll probably see it in the video if i can just get him to put down those rizlas :wink: ....
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Jester on June 23, 2005, 02:31:29 PM
I found anew accelaration tonight

or a start anyway

for Excalibur

put diabolo on floor, wrap front cone with right handstick, then jam right hand stick against axle and take out all the slack with left stick, then lift diabolo off the ground and hold it in vertical excalibur position, turn around on the spot keeping the right stick pressed against the diabolo so it doesn't go anywhere, then when u are ready realease the tension slightly and the diabolo and it should start rotating the right way

i haven't quite got the hang of how to go into whip from it but i've only been doing it for a few hours
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Spooned on June 23, 2005, 03:54:00 PM
Woah, sounds cool, ill be trying that today.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Diab_olik on June 23, 2005, 04:49:12 PM
I think that the start that Jester spoke is the start that Vux (in the MFP) uses to begin excalibur.
It's a pretty start, and practice, you don't need to spend time to turn your diabolo to horizontal plane.

Pierre
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: James on June 23, 2005, 06:18:33 PM
I would use chinese whips/snaps, but it wraps up the string too frequently for me, so I don't use that method regularly  :( .  So instead I just use power pulls with a left wrap or sun wrap.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: seán_ on June 23, 2005, 07:11:21 PM
orbit wraps or smoothing out your chinese whipping might help James. I cant remember the last time I pulleed a string through during whipping aftre calming it down a bit.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Purplegirl on June 23, 2005, 09:40:50 PM
Orbit wraps and whip thrusts do it for me... am still working the kinks out of my chinese power whips *sigh*
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Chiok on June 24, 2005, 10:41:07 AM
The whole diabolo running up and hitting the handsticks is somewhat of a yoyo quality in a diabolo.  The Viper Yoyo has no brake discs or friction pads whatsoever, just the aluminium hubs.  These create enough friction when fast enough to grab the string.  Diabolo does the similar thing in that the hubs spinning fast enough can grab the string when a wrap is on.

The only advice I can think of is that if you are in a right hand backwrap, then keep your right hand back from your left hand.  Not so much that you turn the diabolo, but just enough so that you string does a sort of helix around the axle (like a spring you squash as opposed to a spring you pull).  I like wrapped power thrusts but do use orbits and snaps.

Chiok
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: diabololi on June 24, 2005, 12:57:07 PM
Has anyone come up with any original ways of speeding up two diabolos?

I guess S-fan speeds them up but only up to a point and if you just mainly use your right hand to drive the shuffle then that speeds it up too.

Any other ideas?
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Twilite on July 02, 2005, 10:30:46 PM
I've looked, but to no avail, maybe someone can point me to it if I missed it, or help me out.
Can I get a step by step talk on wrapped orbits? I presume they aren't too difficult, but really can't work them out by watching vids (they are usually shown already started) and I just want something less boring to speed up with.
Thanks.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Matt_ on July 03, 2005, 01:19:49 AM
do an outside sun, but instead of unwrapping it with your right hand, just keep it there. and poof just do a satellite motion but the diabolo is wrapped
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Zharastrian on July 06, 2005, 07:22:05 PM
Quote from: Diab_olik


Chinese acceleration is more efficient, because the diabolo is speeded up during the move up, and the move down.



The same with the wrapped orbit, ain't it?
That's why you wrap it.  :wink:

I myself think Chinese whips are pretty impressing to lots of undiaboloing people, but since I use the orbit my string don't breaks that often inside the sticks (henrys fiber)...on the other hand the orbits seemed to roughen the string (hhhmmm "roughen"...know what I mean??) where it's wrapped around the diab. But I guess that's caused by technique. The same reason for having the diab running straight up to the stick while acclerating.
Guess that happens when "both" strings overlay each other or at least touch each other pretty hard while the diab is wrapped.

You can prevent major accidents and material injuries by listening to your movement.
You must know what i mean. Do you?

Listen to the sounds of rubbing and correct slightly with your hands.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Diab_olik on July 09, 2005, 12:45:33 PM
Quote from: Zharastrian
Quote from: Diab_olik


Chinese acceleration is more efficient, because the diabolo is speeded up during the move up, and the move down.



The same with the wrapped orbit, ain't it?
That's why you wrap it.  :wink:


It depends of how do youmake wrap orbit's. Often when someone uses this acceleration, he pushes the diabolo down to left, with right hand (acceleration) and pushes the diabolo up to right with left hand. So during the second move, the diabolo isen't  accelerated. With chinese accelertion, your right hand push the diabolo up and down, so it's always accelerating the diabolo.  :wink:

Pierre
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Jussi on July 10, 2005, 07:51:48 PM
infinite suicide is very powerfull way to accelerate diabolo if you move diabolo horizontal while doing trick.. faster you move diabolo, more speed it gets.. (stick speed raises also, but you can slow that down by moving diabolo up and down)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Spink on July 11, 2005, 02:19:18 PM
I've just started using minigenocides for speed ups and even starts.

If you throw the diabolo in with your hand and then catch it backside with your right hand (for us lefties) then release in to a mini, when you catch the stick the diabolo has a moderate amount of spin....

.... well i like it :)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Shawn Fumo on October 22, 2005, 06:00:02 AM
I could be wrong, but I think for orbits, it depends on the height of the orbit. If you accelerate downward and then throw it straight across, it is only speeding up on that stroke. But if you make the return over your hands and make sure the string is taut, I believe that speeds it up also. If you do the upward motion with the strong hand, then you can pull back with the the weak one.

I need to work on the chinese snaps/pulls myself. It does feel different, but I guess in the end it is basically the same thing. If you do your orbit straight up and down, that basically becomes pulls and sharp sideways tugs can become more like horizontal snaps..

Shawn

P.S. I think I've seen some snaps done where the diabolo stays basically stationary while the hand moves. Anyone trick orbit wraps that are "isolated" where you move your arms in a circle while the diabolo stays in one place? Could potentially be cool looking..
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Ginger_Tom on November 24, 2005, 02:13:30 PM
I use a speed up that I came up with myself, although i dont know if other people have came up with it before. According to sean_ its 'japanase' style, but basically you go as if to put a normal powerloop into the diabolo on your strong hand backside, but immaediately take the wrap out the same way, if done continuously and smoothly it is a very affective way of speeding your diabolo up, it looks cool aswell
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: kuollut_marsu on November 27, 2005, 08:09:59 PM
mostly chinese whipping, but i mostly try to speed up with suns, orbits, umbrellas and stuff...
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: bruce on December 01, 2005, 05:00:59 AM
Does anyone have a method of speeding up the diabolo while it is backside. I use - go backside (scissors) with the left hand - whip the left hand under the right (speeding up diabolo) - pop diabolo, uncross hands and catch near right hand and speed up with half orbit and repeat. However it does not speed up the diabolo much.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: kuollut_marsu on December 01, 2005, 12:30:21 PM
Yeah.. it would be nice if anyone knew a good way to speed up while in backside.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Chiok on December 01, 2005, 12:40:08 PM
Quote from: kuollut_marsu
Yeah.. it would be nice if anyone knew a good way to speed up while in backside.
You could just turn 180º around and speed up backwards.  Otherwise, I'm outta ideas.

Chiok
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Punkerpanda on December 01, 2005, 10:52:27 PM
for backside, you can always do horizontal power whips, speed loops, just have to do them with your left hand
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: fredo on December 02, 2005, 10:18:51 PM
The easiest way is to do a left backside and a wrap with your left hand (mingenocide position) and do loop acceleration.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Scooby on February 25, 2006, 04:05:07 PM
i was just wondering if anyone else backwraps there diabolo with there left hand (using 1d) for circuar ans chinese speedups?
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Dracodragon on February 25, 2006, 04:17:11 PM
I mostly do orbits for speeding up 1d. For 2d is mainly continuos backwraps.

I do use a cool way to speed up one diabolo when im doing over the arm tricks though(which is the infinite monorail which others probably use too)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Scooby on February 25, 2006, 04:42:43 PM
Nice. :lol:


if you dont mind..   what type of axels do you have on your Circus's?

i have just got some money from a previous show and i find the circus's to be a little heavy for fans.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Sean on February 25, 2006, 05:00:20 PM
Let's keep the Henrys axle discussion to the relevent thread:
http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=32

Chris is using regular width "teflon" hubs with regular axles I believe. Have a look through the above thread for more on that.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Scooby on February 25, 2006, 05:11:30 PM
sorry   :lol:
   //smacks hands for typing.


 
thanks
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: dave114 on February 25, 2006, 09:27:32 PM
Well I find wrapped orbits good for speed acceleration. I find that chinese acceleration makes your string snap easier/quicker.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: dynamaniac on February 26, 2006, 02:38:06 AM
i usually use a left backwrap for orbits and a right backwrap for chinese whips. i think im more comfortable with left backwraps.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: wooftang on March 26, 2006, 06:03:00 PM
i use over the foot/leg puppetmaster(1 handed)
or chinese whips
another good way is chinese whips alternating with power thrusts(normal whips with a wrap) it gives a good image :wink:

why do all these accelerations use a wrap(well all the ones that normal people can do)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Graham on March 27, 2006, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: wooftang
why do all these accelerations use a wrap(well all the ones that normal people can do)
I would guess it's because that way there is more friction between the string and diabolo - so the movement of the string is more easily transferred to the diabolo. And also, in the case of chinese whips, it stops the diabolo flying off :)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: fredo on March 28, 2006, 06:38:40 PM
btw, what's the difference between chinese whips, chinese snaps, chinese whip thrusts and power thrusts??? these names are so confuding... :?  Could so film it? :wink:
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: martijn on March 28, 2006, 06:46:23 PM
The most important are: orbit acceleration and chinese acceleration. I think you know what those are, that's all you need to know really. :wink:
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: fredo on March 28, 2006, 06:50:36 PM
right :wink:...good tricks are better than good accelerations. I know orbit aceleration, a low and slow one and a higher and faster one (above the head).and the chinese...walking around while chinese accelerating or doing suns/sats is much better than having much ways of accelerations
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: JC on March 28, 2006, 07:03:14 PM
Here you could find the differences.
Hier sind die Unterschiede ganz gut erklärt.

http://www.diabolotricks.com/Addspin.htm
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: mango on April 02, 2006, 12:53:41 AM
does the "umbrella" trick accelerates the diabolo?
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: frank0072 on April 02, 2006, 06:26:23 AM
I can't perform the umbrella but I am almost sure it doesn't add speed. The diabolo isn't wrapped and is pullede rather violently from left to right and back, I can't see where it gets the friction to accelerate. And even íf it should accelarate say from left to right, the other way around it would lose speed. That is my theory, I can't perform the trick so I don't know what it does exactly.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Matt_ on April 02, 2006, 07:35:20 AM
i do this trick all the time, it's good for giggles, and it seems to speed up the diabolo.

i did an experiment a month or so back, i sped up the diabolo and let it sit on my string. i didnt do anything except stare at my clock. the speed died almost completely out in about 20 seconds. therefore, you can assume that any trick that adds/maintains spin would let the diabolo spin longer, and a trick that takes away spin would be shorter.

so i sped up the diabolo a minimal amount (not about to fall off, but not a crazy amount of spin either) and i started to do a regular umbrella (medium speed). i umbrelled for about a full minute or so, and i could've gone longer had my point not already been proven/my arms started to feel weary. from this simple experiment, it seems like the umbrella can maintain spin (or add it just a little). it's not a way to speed up a diabolo, but i believe it can be used to keep spin going indefinitely, similar to the Sfan.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: frank0072 on April 02, 2006, 10:15:41 PM
Quote from: Matt_
i do this trick all the time, it's good for giggles, and it seems to speed up the diabolo.

i did an experiment a month or so back, i sped up the diabolo and let it sit on my string. i didnt do anything except stare at my clock. the speed died almost completely out in about 20 seconds. therefore, you can assume that any trick that adds/maintains spin would let the diabolo spin longer, and a trick that takes away spin would be shorter.

so i sped up the diabolo a minimal amount (not about to fall off, but not a crazy amount of spin either) and i started to do a regular umbrella (medium speed). i umbrelled for about a full minute or so, and i could've gone longer had my point not already been proven/my arms started to feel weary. from this simple experiment, it seems like the umbrella can maintain spin (or add it just a little). it's not a way to speed up a diabolo, but i believe it can be used to keep spin going indefinitely, similar to the Sfan.


ok, so I was wrong. How nice is that. I have to learn that umbrella.... (last time I hit myself in the face with the diabolo... trauma!)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: jake jones on April 16, 2006, 02:52:06 PM
I need help ..... i cant seem to land loop whipping. im finding it hard to get into and land.. can somebody please send me or make a video to discribe how to do it. thank you if you could...:) sean. i mean .. look on the videos of this guy doing it. he has a purply pink diabolo. he dus the video to fast. it confused me
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Sean on April 16, 2006, 03:26:15 PM
Hi Jake,

I think there might be some useful posts in this thread that I merged your message to.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "loop whipping" I assume you mean the trick referred to as Chinese Whip Thrusts (http://www.diabolotricks.com/Addspin.htm#chinesewhipthrusts) at diabolotricks.com?

Otherwise, have a look through the "Add Spin (http://www.diabolotricks.com/Addspin.htm)" section of diabolotricks.com.

Wrap, move hand up and down. Keep the other hand loose. Keep an angle on the string. Practice. That's about it. ;)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: spider leg7 on December 28, 2007, 12:58:58 AM
I am trying to get loads of speed for my tricks, and I have been using sun pulls.  I want to know if that is the technique I should be using, and if so, i also need some pointers.


Oh, and any tips for the "Tomicide" would be nice as well.

TY
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: William on December 28, 2007, 01:04:14 AM
Hello. Please have a search around the forum for what you are after. Its not hard and you'll find what you need alot quicker than posting and waiting for somebody else to write something up. If you can't find anything after that, then start a new thread.
I found this thread on How do you speed up your diabolo (http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=94.0)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Duncan on December 28, 2007, 03:20:57 AM
Spider Leg,

I've merged your thread with this existing one. It has plenty of advice for you to solve your speed problems. Try out several different methods and see if you have a particular affinity for one or another.

-Duncan
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on December 28, 2007, 03:25:31 AM
I use chinese whips for 1 d, and 2 diabolo right backwrap hovers.
Btw, i figured out a actual infinite sprinkler.
(The one part when it becomes non-infinite is when one falls off the string =P)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: William on December 28, 2007, 06:45:30 AM
Chinese whips with 1 and 2. Working on backwraps with 3.

Legault.. Video.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Asa (Formerly Legault) on December 28, 2007, 11:21:30 AM
Also, it doesnt look very good because the diabolos rub cups a LOT while your powering the so its actually kind of funny looking. Yes, theres still that camera problem, but i'll try.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: aznalien on January 13, 2008, 11:39:40 PM
i use chinese whips. best way in my mind. but anyway works as long as the diabolo goes faster  ;D
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Tomko401 on February 14, 2008, 01:16:27 AM
I like to use orbit accelerators.  Occasionaly, I will use Chineese snaps
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: luabduch on February 14, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
I prefer the chinese snaps too..
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Kingsid3 on February 18, 2008, 03:14:28 PM
I use a mix it depends what i feel like.If i need quick speed for practise i will use whips but i normaly use Orbits.
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: pus on February 24, 2008, 04:22:06 PM
I'd recommend you use Acceleration Loops as standard, but Chinese Acceleration becomes handy sometimes, so you might want to get these down as well. They are nice for getting alot of speed as soon as possible, but Acceleration Loops are much more consistant, and it's much smoother on your gear. Do it all, man!  :-*

Yeh, I guess you're right. Has anyone here come up with an original way of speeding their diabolo up?

Yeah. Throw your diabolo on to your string, bring the whole thing up to your head, and then blow really hard on it and pray!

pus<3
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: zwiggelbig on April 18, 2008, 06:50:26 PM
Chinese orbits for me! Hate doing chinese accelerations..
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: Adamer15 on April 18, 2008, 08:54:37 PM
Has anyone here come up with an original way of speeding their diabolo up?

I have

Try doing normal chinese whipe thrusts just instead of keeping your wrist standing still you make it go with the diabolo

Example : Diabolo goes up wrist goes down, diabolo goes down wrist goes up

Hope this helps
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: looby on April 19, 2008, 01:59:19 AM
I have

Try doing normal chinese whipe thrusts just instead of keeping your wrist standing still you make it go with the diabolo

Example : Diabolo goes up wrist goes down, diabolo goes down wrist goes up

Hope this helps


Once again, speechless...
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: daanman on April 23, 2008, 07:30:14 PM
if I had to choose between wrapped orbit or one of the chinese accelerations, I would choose
the wrapped orbit. This is because my wrapped orbit makes more speed at the end although
the chinese accelerations make speed quicker*.

(*this is only in my case)
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: JJesse on April 28, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
Chinese whips make speed faster, and I'm usually in a hurry to unleash my skillzz, so...
Title: Re: How do you speed up your diabolo?
Post by: flipendo89 on September 01, 2008, 12:23:01 PM
i have never mastered chinese whips because a allways loose control however orbits are the one if you want quck speed and safe speed however i feel you need fast reactions to gain the orbits full potential
     kev
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