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Videos / Re: Diabolotreff Collab 2022
« on: March 15, 2023, 12:24:52 PM »
Megageil! Makes me want to grab diabolos and come through screen to play with you. Enjoyed this very much! Thank you for making this.

Tricks / Which tricks are cool now?
« on: June 29, 2021, 10:17:18 AM »
What are the cool tricks now? Are we still on the integrals and feed-the-sun combo boat? Any new trends?

Videos / Re: Essenburg by Martijn and Arjan
« on: August 17, 2020, 09:21:16 PM »
Hehey! Well done! Missed you both a lot! Also very nice ideas. Will need to rewatch couple of times to get what just happened.  ;)

Tricks / Re: Must learn beginner tricks?
« on: May 27, 2020, 09:45:17 PM »
I'm pretty much thinking along the same lines. It's quite difficult to set 10 things that form the bases of all techniques. Suns used to be one on my list of beginner moves and the whip. But if I add them to the list then I would have to remove some which is even more difficult. :)

Tricks / Must learn beginner tricks?
« on: May 19, 2020, 07:18:41 PM »
If you had to pick 10 beginner level tricks that everybody should learn, what would they be?

General / Re: Been away awhile came back because...
« on: May 19, 2020, 05:15:39 AM »
Haha, they are well! I saw Joona just the other day in market when buying food. Just wish they would film more stuff. Well Joona is filming a lot but just not Diabolo.... ;)

Tricks / Re: Name of the diabolo tricks?
« on: March 26, 2019, 08:48:09 PM »
This is based on how I have understood it based on talks with people who have been playing diabolo for a lot longer than me. I can't promise that this is 100% correct but I hope it gives some perspective.

To understand this better one must go back in time to before the change of millenium. To release or drop a stick while playing diabolo used to be a mistake. All of the tricks would be such that you hold the sticks and did throws, over the arms, grinds etc. Stick relesing tricks just didn't exist. People used heavier sticks usually made from wood, with no soft handles or such. Now to do a stick release with this equipment and this time would be both wrong and would hurt you quite a bit. And I guess lot of people can still relate since the sticks still tend to hurt even if we have lighter sticks and soft handles. Catching stick right would hurt, catching stick wrong would hurt like hell. Explaining a trick where you do sun but release the other sticks would be world of pain for you. Your friends could say, "Doing that trick is practically suicide." The trick name "suicide" was quite fitting for a trick that causes you loads of pain.

So times change, turns out the stick release or rather "suicide" trick is just a beginning of it all. Now imagine someone having somebody to whack or spin a hurtful object around in place with lot of people. That's a huge risk of hurting the other people. You would not be hurting yourself anymore but other people as well. Quite fittingly "that's a genocide".  How about mini genocide? Smaller version of genocide yet still risk of hurting other people.

Infinite suicide then is quite logical it's just the same trick that goes on forever.

Integral then? The trick combos were not named until the Diabology dvd set came out. Integral is a mathematic term "of or denoted by an integer".  Mad frech posse who filmed the tricks were mathematics or computer science students so I'm guessing they named it so. Or does someone have a better theory?

Videos / Bolottaako? (2003) - a blast from the past for 32minutes
« on: May 27, 2018, 08:27:32 PM »
So here's the back story:

There was a time when it was difficult to find any videos online. Your sources pretty much were animations (not many back then), diarythms gifs, few clips the mad french posse released prior to diabology, really rare clip of Guy Heathcote of doing 3d low and some Donald Grant books etc. We noted that it would be good to collect lots of material in to one dvd and release that. This way one wouldn't have to use their modem connections on isdn's to slowly download videos on their computers. You could just easily watch the dvd and have loads of material to practice.

The dvd wouldn't have to be tutorial videos since from a video it's really easy to figure out a trick. Well compared to text versions that explained geno trick the first time (which we thought was just madness). Needless to say lot has changed since and you know how things are nowadays. It's been good 15 years since we did this. The diabology was a massive release that changed pretty much the game. So I have to admit that it kinda did overshadow our dvd quite a bit. But nevertheless we did put loads of effort and this was top notch tech back then and lots of tricks are still very difficult to land.

It's about time to give this out for free, hope you like it ;) Oh it's so much better with those 3D glasses one might get from cerial boxes, if you have those, definitely wear them!

9 Collaboration Video / Re: collaboration video 2017
« on: January 09, 2018, 08:48:31 PM »
Aaand DONE! I hope we can get more people in during last days!

10 Collaboration Video / Re: collaboration video 2017
« on: January 09, 2018, 10:03:17 AM »
Sun came up today, rising slightly on horizon. This time a year it’s not often this happens around here so I happy I managed to film short video for the collab, before getting too cold. Sadly didn’t have chance to do any kind of Bergo style trekkin or filming :D

I’ll send clip in later today. I hope there’s something decent enough to use...

Videos / Re: Elastic string!
« on: January 08, 2018, 07:36:26 PM »
No I didn't only with 1D so far. I guess the two might need little bit shorter string not to have them hit the floor straight away. As you can see with speedups one has to shoot it to sides to avoid hitting the floor. :)

Videos / Elastic string!
« on: December 29, 2017, 06:49:55 PM »
So we are passing trough Stockholm and kids want to visit the FlyingTiger. I find string that looks like neon yellow Diabolo string but is elastic. I buy it anyway (1€) put it in my backpack. Now 3months later find it and hook it in my sticks.

Elastic string, test #1

I remember this one video of a Variete like show with somebody using elastic string but I lost the link. If you have it please link!

Oh and if you decide to try this watch out with vertax. I got smacked in my face ;)

Community & Events / Re: Diabolo Competitions - Preferred format
« on: December 12, 2017, 07:17:29 AM »
Seems to me that past 10 years of contests in Finland have shown that making the rules complicated makes competing difficult for everybody. Last 4 times I’ve been in events both players and organizers have been complaining of how exhausting taking part of organizing one has been. On top of that old players don’t compete or show up at the contest. Even the ones on the association board.

Yes, we have had around 5000 people watching the event but I cannot in good concience say that the merit has been the diabolo contest. Location and time has been optimal for getting audience. I mean that being part of highly marketed set of events right before the biggest rock festival in country and having stage right next to ticket sales booth in main market square might have more to do with the 5000 than our set of rules. Having contest one block away from the main stage did cut our audience to 100-200. I’m happy to hear that people have liked the contest but I believe this would have been the case if they had seen any kind of high level diabolo play.

Now what I’m more worried is the impact the contest has to the community. Not attracting many new players is not a good thing. And if the old players are losing interest then there’s only the 3-6 player core team always playing. If the only reason we play is to see who is best I believe we can do that while sitting down in a pub and asking what people have been working on recently. There has not been any new clubs or groups for practicing diabolo. Not even in Joensuu where we had the big audience. And sadly we have had to close the diabolo club in Tampere for not having any players there.

I don’t believe our decisions on the set of rules will solve the lack of motivated players. But having overly complicated set of rules and exhausting event will definitely work against this goal of getting more people to play diabolo. I hope these would bring more people in than cause old players to lose interest. This is why I would like to see an event with more simple set of rules and for players, judges and organizers.

Contest should be event for everybody, counting in the one trick ponies and one pony tricksters ;)

Videos / Re: Tricks / 15.01.2017 - Théo Scarito
« on: February 16, 2017, 06:56:01 AM »
Be my valentine! That was amazing!

Jouni studied in Fratellini and he told me good things about that place. As an outside point of view teaching tends to focus on artistic side but Trespace and Vux were teaching technique there as well!

Diabolo Culture / Circus schools and where to apply as a Diabolo player?
« on: February 07, 2017, 09:56:52 PM »
Had a short talk with Henri about this today and though this would be a good topic to expand here as well. I know that some of the people on the board are thinking about applying to study at different circus schools and are Diabolo players. My question really is where would you recommend to go if you are a Diabolo player?

Who is teaching where? And which schools would be best for jugglers, especially for Diabolo players and why?

Tricks / Re: Vertax non-turning acceleration
« on: February 07, 2017, 09:44:14 PM »
Nicely done! That's pretty much it! I do it the same way. Once you've got the hang of it you start gaining more and more speed and having to force Diabolo to stay on its plane less and less.

#missedthedeadline The next year I promise! Looking forward for the video anyways!

Videos / Re: When you reach out your hand and touch the diabolo
« on: October 06, 2016, 12:32:17 PM »
Oh nice! Good surprise! I was totally expecting different kind of video. Thanks for sharing this one!

I've been trying to remind people to film! Sadly haven't got around doing it myself yet... Wish I had a new cool trick...

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