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Performances / Australia Circus Competition
« on: January 14, 2017, 10:18:26 AM »
Hey everyone!
Here's the video of the Australian Circus Festival 2016 Adult Competition!
I was awarded second place. First place was a 9 person teeter-board troupe   :(
Mostly tricks and showy stuff to target non-juggling audience but I hope you still enjoy!

Jordan Turley

Thought I'd give my opinion. Ill keep it short because there's already enough to read here.

In regards to how to come to a decision, I am a massive fan of Richard's vision statement plan. It's simple and easy to carry out. Gather a few suggestions on the vision, vote. Then take a few suggestions about criteria for the video that follow along from that vision statement, vote.

In terms of what the video should be about, why cant we have both in a single video? (Inclusion and high quality).
Would this 2016 collab really be that much "worse" if everyone was included? I don't know what videos were submitted, but I feel if you removed a few of the high skill ones and replaced them with others, the video as a whole would not suffer 'that' much. It would still have the "Look at the amazing things diabolo players are capable of now", but with an added "We are an inclusive community, come join us".
I guess I'm proposing a vision statement that sits in between?
3 - "To present to the world the highest level of diabolo skill and creativity whilst simultaneously portraying us as an inclusive and friendly community". Something along those lines?

I also think a little editor-submitter feedback could also go a long way. If someone submitted a video of a high throw in their backyard for example, the editor could reply saying "Could you please film this again at an iconic location in your area, or get some friends and family around to cheer you on in the video", something to make it stand out. Similar can be said about camera quality, lighting etc.

I think a lot of the disappointment about not being included came from the expectation of being included. Clear guidelines (in the form of a vision statement) and editor-submitter communication should limit this disappointment.

Happy discussing,
Jordan Turley

Videos of the Week / Re: VotW: 14 February 2015: Jussi
« on: February 15, 2016, 06:20:27 AM »
2016* :P   Nice trick!

Tricks / Re: 3 diabolo shuffle: help! (wrap start & asynch shuffle)
« on: January 05, 2016, 03:59:21 AM »
Not quite sure what you mean, do you mean just the hover? Or is the double diabolo thing a sprinkler? Maybe post a vid of someone doing it and we can give some tips. Or one of your tips. :)


Videos / Re: Forum Wide Diabolo Challenge
« on: December 26, 2015, 02:22:08 AM »
Finally got around to filming.
Here is Sebi's:
Its a bit hard to see, but I hope its right. Nowhere near as smooth though.

Here's  2D one, since we haven't had one yet.

Look forward to your replies

General / Re: How do you learn
« on: December 14, 2015, 06:06:57 AM »
Yeah I agree with most of what have been said, and do find this very interesting.

A few extra points id like to make:

- I think motivation is one of the key things when it comes to learning. Yes you can FORCE yourself do an hr of practice a day, but if you don't WANT to then you'll be real inefficient at learning. I lost motivation learning 3 so stalled in my progress for a long while. I ended up buying new diabolos and that was enough  to motivate me to learn 3.
- Filming is good for feed back but it is also again good for motivation. Post videos and you'll feel that sense of achievement and receive words of encouragement. Which will push you to do more.
- I agree with Sebi about giving yourself time to warm up. (Although with my 4D my first attempt is often the best then its downhill from there) however with most things you need to do it a few times so you can get a clear understanding of what you might need to change.
- Visualizing is good. I often find myself "Air Diaboloing" and looking like an idiot in public. I'm pretty sure its been shown to work in other sports so why not this?
- Also small things like I only practice 4D in the same location  and orientation, and when i listen to music I make sure its the same each time, so my brain gets into gear when it hears the songs (Similar techniques are used for memorizing things and studying so I assume it may help here). I also make sure my music is fairly relaxed for 4D, I normally find myself rushing so something slow keeps me in time.


Videos / Re: Forum Wide Diabolo Challenge
« on: November 28, 2015, 11:02:09 PM »
Awesome idea. Should be fun.

Here's my best attempt. If I practice double Suns a bit more I might get there. Will keep trying.

Someone else will probably get it in the mean time.

I'm New / Re: Can''t even get it to spin...
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:18:35 AM »
Hello and welcome to :D

Firstly, the part about the white and black axial of the diabolo is if you have a Bearing diabolo. If they are both black then you have a fixed, so it doesn't matter which way the diabolo is.

If you are right handed then you are correct in putting it on the ground to your right and rolling it to your left. It is difficult to say exactly what the issue is without seeing it, but I'll take a guess.
You may be lifting the diabolo off the ground too late. it should still be rolling to the left as you lift up, so it continues spinning. If you lift to late, once the diabolo has gone too far to the left, then it wont be spinning when you lift it up.

Rolling along the ground is just a way to give it a quick bit of starting speed for stability. Speed = Stability. What are you doing after you lift it? The tutorials probably tell you to tap your right hand up and down. You may be doing this a bit wrong. You want to make small but quick pulls with your right hand, whilst the left says relatively firm and still. If you are moving both up and down then the diabolo wont get any speed.

Let me know if this helps. Also, filming your progress is not only a good way to stay motivated, but also very good for getting feedback from both yourself and others. What might not be obvious from your perspective might be very obvious on camera.


Videos / Re: James Walsh UK Diabolo (videography)
« on: June 21, 2015, 02:59:44 AM »
Really like the filming :D Smooth stuff as well.  Finger grind/butterfly was awesome as everyone has said.

Videos / Re: Diabolo of the Week
« on: May 12, 2015, 01:18:06 AM »
"Note: If the video appears unexpectedly in a web browser, it means that website is using an outdated method to access YouTube videos."

Im guessing this is the case? Its happened on all my devices.
Either way, I'll start a technical thread to bring it to the attention of someone who might be able to do something about it. In the mean time I'll just not embed the vids.


Videos / Re: Diabolo of the Week
« on: May 11, 2015, 10:27:15 AM »
Thanks for the advice wis! A lot of the stuff was just learned so hopefully it'll get smoother with time.
Also. I'm not sure if it's happened for anyone else, but the embedding is taking me here instead:

Videos / Re: Diabolo of the Week
« on: May 10, 2015, 06:52:19 AM »
Also, not sure why its not embedding. If someone could fix it/tell me how that would be good.

Videos / Diabolo of the Week
« on: May 10, 2015, 06:50:13 AM »
Hello fellow diaboloists!

I've been posting a video each week with a 1D, 2D and 3D trick that I learnt.
Here's this weeks video: featuring a 4D progress.

Here are the two previous weeks as well.
Week 1:
Week 2:

Enjoy and Sub :D
Jordan Turley

I'm New / Re: 2 diabolos
« on: April 02, 2015, 06:18:54 AM »
A Youtube search of 2 Diabolo Tutials give plenty of useful results.

As with most diabolo tricks, keep practicing towards it and make sure you think about what you're doing and think how you can improve, so you arent just drilling bad habits. This will also improve your understanding of how diabolo works. Also, Film yourself to get easy feedback, and also post it on here if you want some more help.

Good Luck!

Tricks / Re: Routine Concept
« on: March 20, 2015, 08:19:21 PM »
I've always stuck to the 1 2 3 or 1 2 vertax 3 ( when my Vertax is more exciting then my 2) because starting with 3 might make that seem like the  standard thing for people who haven't seen much diabolo. Anything is possible with an act however and it's usually a good idea to start with a big trick. I think it could work well if you started with 3 high and finished with 3 low and high. Especially if the 3 high is short and snappy like a rocket start and you don't run it for long. That way you start with 3, but it's different enough from the rest of your diabolo stuff ( no speeding up and no 2D ) that the rest won't be boring by comparison.
It will be different, but whether it will be better then the 1 2 3 I don't know. That's not what makes a good act anyways.

If you're performing for jugglers then anything goes.

Videos / Re: ¿Cómo van a recordarlo?
« on: March 11, 2015, 04:01:18 AM »
I really liked that. Some very visually appealing tricks! Keep them coming.

Gear / Re: DEOS Sticks grips sliding off.
« on: January 16, 2015, 12:14:55 PM »
Just broke my pair :S Vertax genocides are evil.
Luckily it broke inside the grip, so it's still together and usable.

Tricks / Re: Tricks & Routines!
« on: January 14, 2015, 10:42:00 AM »
I assume the typical response you will get to this post is: We can't really help without seeing what your doing. Maybe get a camera and film something (even if its crappy angle/quality, its better then nothing)

Vertax: If it falls off the string before the diabolo starts turning: then theres a problem with your Chinese whips. If it falls off part way up, its probably because you aren't turning or turning too much. "Then whip it from ur hand and turn to the left." You actually turn as the diabolo is tilting. It will be difficult at first to get it 100% vertical, but that comes with practice.

Genocides: I assume it hits your head just after the diabolo hits the string? This would most likely be due to the plane that the stick is spinning while in the air. This probably has to do with your release (I assume) try throwing the stick forwards or backwards and see what happens.
Continuous minigens:

Intervals: I assume you mean 'Integrals'. There should be some basic tutorials around I'd imagine. but Ive found alot of it you either need to just figure out yourself or talk to someone about. I found it very difficult learning these just watching a vid and trying it, but I think that's probably the way.
diaboloclassroom is very good for integrals through I have found.

Diabolos & String?
-String affects certain Tricks - Yes
-Diabolo's affect certain tricks Yes
Cant really be bothered going into this at the moment sorry. Any conventions nearby you can attend to try things and see what you like?

Hope it helps.

6D low world record

Please explain!?!

Gear / Re: Sundia EVOLUTION Diabolos
« on: January 04, 2015, 03:14:47 AM »
I really enjoy these over the others I have tried. Good for numbers as everyone has established. Initially I was worried that since they are smaller it would be too similar to using the crappy commercial brands (yoho here in Australia) however the stability is up with the others, if not better. The size actually makes my string feel longer and gives me more room, which is great for 3+. Also less exhausting for longer practice sessions. My Tiabolos feel fat by comparison.

Regarding integrals. I personally haven't noticed a difference between diabolos. Stick and string seems to be the main contributing factor for integrals. Stability for me is rarely an issues, I usually mess up for another reason. Relative weight might also be a problems (too heavy sticks and a light diabolo is a pain for me). Stability may become an issue for some longer 2d combos but I can't say.


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