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Gear / Re: Finesse Diabolo Tripod
« on: January 08, 2011, 10:24:42 AM »
Figured out how to change the angle! Simply put the entire thing on the main big spherical thing. (I need to learn the names...)  still thinking about legs, that's going to need a bit more than a finesse diabolo. Perhaps handsticks?

Gear / Re: Finesse Diabolo Tripod
« on: January 07, 2011, 08:56:11 PM »
Thanks for the replies! I was think it would be useful for place cameras on slightly uneven surfaces, or if your camera cannot stand on it's own. Haven't considered legs yet, I'll take a look.  :)

Gear / Finesse Diabolo Tripod
« on: January 07, 2011, 01:24:48 PM »
I took one of my finesse G3's apart and I noticed how the centre thing (dunno the name) was shaped simmilarly to a tripod insert of a camera. I used my finesse to create a tripod. Now you don't have any more excuses for shaky footage! :)
Link here :
Not 100% stable, but you can pan left to right. Still trying to figure out how to pan up and down...

Tricks / Re: A nice combo :D
« on: November 25, 2010, 05:50:41 PM »
I strongly recommend you continue training your diabolo skills with your camera switched off for at least 2 months or so ;)
 way. I have to add
Hmm... my camera has been off for a year and 3 months now... Thats not good is it?  :-D

Gear / Re: Fixed Axle vs. Bearing Axle
« on: April 14, 2010, 05:58:39 PM »
I think comparing bearings and fixed axles are impossible because they are 2 different types and there are many differences.
It's like comparing sprinting and running a marathon. If you sprint, you can go faster for a short period of time before you slow down a lot while if you run a marathon, you can run a longer distance faster as you have a stable and comfortable pace.
Same with diabolos. Correct me if I am wrong but bearings are similar to sprinting because you can learn tricks quickly without developing good technique but eventually you will need a good technique to learn the harder tricks. This will take longer as you need to develop the technique. Fixed axles take longer to learn tricks but you can develop a good technique and your skill will be much higher.
I'm not sure but I think fixed diabolos are good in the long run but bearings are only a short term advantage.
Still, I do not thing the use of bearings is "cheating." If you are having a competition on how long your infinite suicide can last or something, the use of bearing could be called cheating but I think everyone can choose what diabolo's they use. For example, an Arlekino Diabolo  is harder so use compared to a finesse g4 but you wouldn't say the use of finesse g4 is cheating.
Btw, this is an arlekino diabolo :

In case anyone misunderstands what I am saying, I am not saying that you should switch from a bearing to a fixed to develop good technique. Depending on the diabolo, some tricks are easier and some are harder. If you use a diabolo that makes it easier for you to learn a trick, you will not learn the technique. Using a diabolo that is harder to do the trick gives you the "correct" technique and it will be easier to learn a trick that is related in the future. Bearings and fixed axels are a great example because bearing give you a huge advantage due to the fact that it spins longer. It may be good to have both and learn the trick with the bearing and then try it with fixed. You will first learn how to do the trick and then develop the technique. When you learn a trick, you need to first work out how to do the trick. Bearings can speed the process up so you can concentrate on learning the technique allowing you to progress faster.

Technical / Re: editing program that isn't iMovie
« on: March 12, 2010, 09:20:07 PM »
here is a comparison of different editing programs

windows movie maker - free for windows, basic timeline, (one layer at a time) effects, transition etc.
pinnacle - I'm not sure about this one but costs about 50 euros and is good for a diabolo video but I believe it is is simmilar to imovie in terms of how advanced it is
sony vegas - very advanced but costs around 500 euros, more than what is needed for a diabolo video
adobe premiere elements - fairly cheap,  around 100 euros and is advanced enough for a diabolo video
adobe premiere pro - simmilar to sony vegas, very advanced, premiere elements is the "lite" version of this (around 750 euros)
adobe after effects- My friend gave me this program for free and I can say it is way more advanced than any other program. Everything is manual and you can change mostly anything. problem is it costs about 1000 euros

pinnacle -
sony vegas -
adobe -

I do not know if this counts for premiere elements too but if you are going for one of the adobe products, they are cs4 and cs5 is comming in april and upgrade for after effects cost about 100 euros...

hope it helps  ;)

Tricks / Re: Anti infinitee suicid
« on: February 08, 2010, 07:46:14 PM »
I think I know what your talking about.
Unlike a infinite suicide, the the stick is wrapping around the Axel while your hand unwraps it making it impossible to have a genocide exit.

It is unfortunately not infinite because although it seems like it is reversed, it does not matter which hand you are holding the stick with as long as the stick is spinning the same direction. (That's clockwise of lefthanded people, dunno about right handed) The diabolo spins the same way as the stick allowing the diabolo to continuously spin. The up motion adds spin to the diablolo.

The anti infinite suicide is just swinging the stick in a circle, unlike in a normal infinite suicide where you make draw a capital "D." This means there is no up motion making the trick "finite." You cannot improvise this to infinite without changing the direction on the stick or else the pull of the infinite suicide would go against the diabolo slowing it down to eventually stop spinning.
As a trick, it is quite a cool trick and can be used as many variations from and to another trick but it is not infinite.

Hope you can understand it  :P

(By the way, pulling the string upwards like in the video does not help and I think it slows it down but I'll try and experiment with it later)

Tricks / Re: I just learnt to... (2010)
« on: January 08, 2010, 02:33:35 PM »
Isn't it about time to create a new thread? Its 2010...

Tricks / Re: Suicides ( Ice Cracker) (Chinese Suicide)
« on: January 03, 2010, 01:31:52 PM »
It isn't the speed but the type of trapeze. Left and right trapezes can change the amount of momentum you get. I find it immposible to complete the trick from a left trapeze by just releasing the stick but it's easy for me to do chinese suicide from a right. Try experimenting with the two trapezes.

Hope it helps!!

maybe it is because you give the stick a spin with your hand dont do that.

General / Re: New Year Resolutions
« on: January 02, 2010, 10:20:25 PM »
I have a couple. I want to be able to exit my 2 integrals I invented, get some advanced 2d tricks nailed, start considering 3d and most importantly to keep diaboloing.

General / Re: Your worst moment in diaboloing
« on: December 18, 2009, 08:11:11 PM »
Yesterday i foolishly did an integral inside and smashed a light bulb.

In my room the light has 3 bulbs and I havent smashed any yet but two don't work anymore; one I just need to change the bulb but the other one is broken from the light itself. The wire is hanging. I learned not to do mini-gens inside.
Havent done integrals...yet  :-D

General / Re: Vertax is rubbish
« on: December 18, 2009, 04:47:49 PM »
Yea, i still do put most of my practice time to vertax, hoping that someday it will be anything but rubbish. In it's current state vertax is rubbish. I've gotta admit that. People are just focusing on genocides (like what's happening with genocides and integrals with normax right now) and that's not at all the thing that i like about vertax. It can be so much more but it isn't.  Really.

I agree that most people are focusing on genocides now. Its because it's the few vertax tutorials there are and it's amzing to pull off. There are more tricks but they don't try it becasue it's either there taking time perfecting genocides, it's too difficult or they don't know how to do it/ can't bothered to try to get it. There are loads of tricks that can be done with practice. An example is the vertax loop genocide in the video "Turn it Out." It's the vertax version of the loop genocide by Pranny. It's a bit different but the concept is simmilar.

Sadly, people learn it, learn a couple of tricks and just stop altogether. Like 3D, some people just give up and stop. The reason why people say its rubbish is probably becasue they cannot do it and ish jelous of others who can. (Although I am rubbish at it I still think its not rubbish  :P)

I think vertax is great and I encourage others to continue doing vertax. Then you will hopefully regret it if you said that vertax was rubbish.  :-D

General / Re: Horizontally Orientated Diabolo is Rubbish.
« on: December 14, 2009, 08:32:35 PM »
love this thread  :P
me too it's so random  :-D

General / Re: Vertax is rubbish
« on: December 12, 2009, 10:26:10 AM »
Vertax is a lot more limited than 1d, less fun (my opinion)
Less fun? I enjoy vertax, it's just fustrating to learn trick like with 1d. There is no such thing as a limited amount of tricks- there is just too many vertax tricks that are impossible to do. (e.g. the 6x vertax genocide, etc.)

General / Re: Vertax is rubbish
« on: December 11, 2009, 10:29:16 PM »
Although there are not as much tricks possible,

There a loads of vetax tricks. You can take most 1d tricks and do it sideways. You just do it while spinning in circles. What happened to elkku?

Personaly, I think vertax (or should I say vertex? xD) is not rubbish. It looks amazing and is usually a crowd pleaser. A problem that I find is annoying is that you cannot do it in a small space. The neck transfer is a "real" vertax trick as it cannot be done with 1d. 2d vetax has been done by tres'pace and the sharpe brothers also did it on be sharpe with the ice.

General / Re: Your worst moment in diaboloing
« on: December 11, 2009, 10:03:53 PM »
My diabolo hit my head while learning 3x excalibur geno..

I did the same. Also nearly strangled myself when trying a double Excalibur genocide. :P

Gear / Re: NEW Sundia Triple Bearing "Shining" Diabolo
« on: December 06, 2009, 07:41:05 PM »
Am I reading right that you checked Firetoys but not the Messiah himself?

sorry I forgot to mention the fact that it I checked but it doesn't send to Ireland.


Gear / Re: NEW Sundia Triple Bearing "Shining" Diabolo
« on: December 06, 2009, 03:22:18 PM »
Nev, I'm getting a triple bearing sundia shining for Christmas but I cannot get it to send to Ireland. I checked it on firetoys but it's out of stock.
Can I get it somewhere else online? I really want one.


Videos / Re: a trick of a challenge
« on: October 29, 2009, 08:19:15 PM »
btw the video sais its a variation xD
I know I got it from this thread

Videos / Re: a trick of a challenge
« on: October 29, 2009, 04:37:55 PM »
kyocide its called

no its something different
this is a continous kyocide
Continuous Kyocide Variation

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