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Gear / Re: Sundia fixed axle question
« on: September 30, 2015, 09:45:49 PM »
Thanks, Duncan. Now that I'm active on this forum again I've learned about Nev's site. (which is amazing for a Sundia fan - so much stuff I haven't found anywhere else!) Once I decide which axle I'm going with I'll be ordering up a whole lot of hardware from Nev to make all my Suns match. Plus I need one more Sun, and another Shining or two, and............

Gear / Sundia fixed axle question
« on: September 30, 2015, 12:11:58 AM »
A couple of months ago I ordered a Sundia Sun, and it quickly became one of my favorites. It came with the heavy metal washers, and this lightweight axle;

(Picture shamelessly swiped from a post Scharling made here in 2013)

Recently I ordered a couple more Suns, but they both came with plastic washers and the heavy steel wide fixed axle. They weigh about the same as my first Sun, but even a beginner like me can tell the difference in how they play.

I really love the axle in my original Sun. (the ones in the picture) So, are these axles available anymore? I'd love to find a few of them.

Am I just better off spending a bunch of money converting everything to the black teflon coated aluminum axles instead?

Has anyone here played the aluminum ones?

General / Re: 2015 collaboration interest?
« on: September 12, 2015, 12:24:58 AM »
I'm just s beginner, and last night I watched about 6 collaboration videos in a row. Looking for some ideas. I see what y'all are saying about the genocides. But why not just send in your favorite stuff and let the editor sort it out? By electing him/her aren't we saying we trust his/her judgement?

I'm New / Best Diabolo? A beginner's perspective
« on: September 11, 2015, 05:38:56 AM »
So what is the best diabolo? I’ve been reading this forum on and off for almost 4 years, and that question comes up a lot.  I’m still a beginner after 4 years, because I researched for half a year, finally bought my first diabolo, then after a week my life got crazy and it was forgotten. Months later I picked it up again, bought a second one, played with it for a week, had a job change and forgot them of several more months. This went on for almost four years, until now. I’ve got 5 of the most recommended 5 inch diabolos. I wanted to add my thoughts, for beginners, by a beginner.  These are all fixed axle diabolos, I’ve never tried a bearing axle. Here goes, in the order I got them;

Mr.Babache Finesse (G4) – My first diabolo; at the time most of the equipment guides were written, 275 grams made this a “light” diabolo. They still make kits to add weight to it. But it’s the heaviest one I own, and It’s  got a lot of it’s weight on the rims so it is very stable, and holds it’s spin well. Several different hub, and axles kits, and a light kit are available for it. It is on the softer side, so it “bounces” well. It will get dirty, but it won’t get scratched up. If you’re going to play over concrete a lot, that’s important. It’s also got a slightly higher tech look to it, because of the shape of the cups, and the lack of exposed acorn nuts on the washers.

Sundia Shining long fixed axle -  At 260 grams it feels a lot lighter than the Finesse. I usually play this one indoors so it won’t get too scratched up. It’s pretty, and if you think a light kit may be in your future, the transparent cups look better than the solid colors of my other 4. The long axle on this one is what sets it apart for me. This thing even grinds well on wooden sticks. Yes, the Finesse and the Circus have wide axle kits available for them, but in North America the Shining is cheaper than both of them, and comes with the wide axle. If you think grinds are going to be your thing, I’d go with this one.

Henry’s Circus – I’ve forgotten where I got it, but mine came from the store with the “All Rounder” hubs on it, so it weighs the same 275 grams as the Finesse.  Another one with cups on the softer side, so you can play over concrete with confidence. All you’ll do is get it dirty. It also has all sorts of hubs and axle kits available for it. Probably the classic traditional diabolo

Taibolo Super V2 – At 255 grams, my lightest 5 inch diabolo. I think it’s the prettiest one too. The cups are bright colors and shiny. I doubt you could break it, but it will get scratched up if you’re not careful with it. This will probably become my go to diabolo when I eventually learn to spin 3 at once. I think the low weight does make it a little harder to learn tricks with (slightly less stable, slightly less spin time) but it will be an advantage with multiple diabolos on a string. In North America it tends to be on the expensive side, too.

Sundia Sun (Shine) – Solid color, with what Sundia calls a Competition axle. This is my newest diabolo. At 290 grams, it is by far my heaviest. There are plastic washers available for it to cut the weight down to 275 grams, but I’m holding off on them for now. It has softer cups, like the Finesse and the Circus, but it has a shiny finish like the Shining and the Taibolo, so I’ve been careful what I play over with it. It may all be in my head (because of it’s weight), but I think it spins longer and is slightly more stable than the others. Because of that, I think my first pair will probably be Suns.

I haven’t really said much about “playability”. That’s because I’ve got these 5 lined up on my shelf, I play with all 5 every day, and I still don’t know which one I like best! They are that close. Long time diaboloists will tell you that the long axle is not quite as stable, or this one’s got more rim weight so it spins longer, or that one is easier to make corrections on. And that’s all true, on paper. But the differences are subtle, so for us just starting out, it will be a while before we can tell the difference. For us I think it comes down to do you want to do a lot of grinds? Are you going to be mainly practicing on a lawn, on a wood parquet gym floor, or on concrete?  Would you rather have scratched up but clean, or smooth but stained?  But which one is best?  I checked back, and all of the gear guides of yesteryear have said this, but for some reason it doesn’t register with us beginners; It really doesn’t matter. Buy any of the above diabolos, and get practicing. (I’m told most of the world would add the Epic to this list, but they are hard to come by in North America). Buy which ever one comes in the prettiest color, buy whichever one is cheapest in your area, but buy one of these and get practicing. We don’t have anything else to base our decision on until we’ve started learning.  None of them is going to make you world champion if you don’t have the talent, and if you do have the talent, you could win with any one of them. They are that close.

If anyone spots any obvious mistakes in what I’ve said, please let me know. But please bear in mind that I’m a beginner, writing to beginners. What affects someone learning 4d doesn’t really matter as much to us. (yet)

Gear / Re: How many diabolos?
« on: September 27, 2014, 04:01:20 PM »
I just started getting serious about learning to diabolo about a month ago, so I'm still trying to decide what my first pair should be (before I'm ready for a pair) So far I have one each of;

 Higgins Brothers Anti-Gravity
 Mr.Babache Finesse (G4)
 Henry's Circus (the newer one with the plastic hubs)
 Tiabolo V2
 Sundia Shining (not sure what to call this one - shining cups with a wide fixed axle)

All yellow. So that's 5 so far. I'm waiting for a shop in North America to get some yellow Epics in stock.

Oh, and I'm still using wooden sticks. I was amazed how all of the diabolos, even the Anti-Gravity, were transformed when I replaced the free string that came with some of them with Henry's string.

Gear / Re: Sundia name type
« on: November 24, 2011, 03:50:45 AM »
Are you asking about the one he's playing, or the one in the big photo on the wall behind him?

Gear / Re: four inch diabolos
« on: October 31, 2011, 01:03:36 PM »
I appreciate your help. Yeah, I've just decided to get something to mess with while I'm waiting. It will just be my first one, it won't be last one, or my main one. I imagine I could find a Circus or a Finesse online somewhere. Honestly, I'm old and I still worry about using my charge card on the internet.

Gear / Re: four inch diabolos
« on: October 31, 2011, 03:14:53 AM »
Thanks again. OK, here's why I ask. The store that I prefer to support is out of all of the recommended diabolos. Heaven only know when they will get more in. I want to get started learning. Right now they have;
 the Sundia Nimble, (5", but is it too fragile for a brand new beginner?)
 the Duncan Phoenix (Not well liked, but 5" and heavier)
 or most of the quality 4" diabolos.
For a beginner which do y'all think would be the lesser evil?

Gear / Re: four inch diabolos
« on: October 27, 2011, 03:56:26 PM »

Gear / four inch diabolos
« on: October 27, 2011, 03:18:31 AM »
Hi. I'm new around here. I've read the equipment guides, and done a lot of searching today, and I understand that no one, for any reason, should ever entertain the thought of buying a diabolo smaller than five inches. What I haven't been able to find is why that is. I get that since it's bigger, it's easier to see, and probably easier to catch. Is the bigger one just easier to play in general? Are there any other reasons?

Also, I was reading a 3 year old thead that said there would be a fixed axle conversion coming out for the Fly, but I don't see one any where. Did they not ever get released?

Stupid question #3 - does anyone know what color the glow in the dark Finesse is in the light?  ::)

I'm New / Re: Introduce yourself
« on: October 26, 2011, 03:49:43 PM »
Hi, all. My name is Tom, I'm 51 years old, and I live in a small mountain town in Georgia. (USA) I am about to order my first diabolo, and went searching for a forum to read up on what equipment is recommended, how to start once I get it, etc. I am here, specifically, because after Googling for almost an hour, I discovered that this is by far and away the premier diabolo forum on the internet. I've thrown yoyos and spin tops for, well, forever and in my area, yoyoers/top spinners/jugglers/diabolo spinners seem to bump into each other quite a bit. There is a large juggling club down in Atlanta that holds an annual festival that draws all of us in. I've always thought it looked like fun, and I've decided it's time to get started!

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