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Videos / Re: Collaboration video 2008: "Work in progress"
« on: November 20, 2008, 09:21:20 PM »
That was brilliant. Awesome 2d stuff in there, I really enjoyed those sick knot stealing, all messy string combos. All of them (Johnny, Etienne, ...).

Great to see some progress, as well as innovations in 1d. Integrals are getting insane, I can hardly tell what's going on sometimes (watch Pete ;))

Sry for not answering your e-mail, Martijn, I just can't do any of the tricks I invented, they'd need some serious practising I don't have time for at the moment. I prefer watching you guys, anyway 8)


General / Re: Blog post Tijn #1 | Being creative without being original
« on: October 15, 2008, 05:57:45 PM »
When talking about creativity, I also think of subjectivity. Creativity is something that brings up emotions such as surprise, astonishment, enjoyment and often makes me smirk. If you consider a trick being creative or not depends very much on your personal perception and your point of view.

Originality seems to be something less abstract, however. The new, the unexplored is original - in the sense of a new, unknown creation - therefore it is more objective. A trick either already exists or it doesn't.

I often think of different aspects, maybe even "parameters" influencing a combo/trick. For me, the five main aspects are diabolo technique, technical level, combination, body movements and posture, (intended) perception and implications and overall difficulty. A trick/combo is defined by which diabolo tricks, basics and moves are used (diabolo technique), how they are combined, which body movements accompany it, how the trick is supposed to be perceived and actually is perceived (subjective aspect). This also contains "implications", which may, for instance, be an ass catch in a whip combo... At last, the difficulty of combining all these parameters to create a specific trick and the technical difficulty of the single parameters themselves sum up to the overall difficulty.

Of course I've already found a flaw in this theory myself - the inventive, creative work, although measurable (time spent on developing the trick), is not contained. But, I think, for a theory how a trick is perceived, this is neglectable, as you cannot see the amount of work, the "technical level of creativity" involved. So this is very much subject to the subjective aspect, as people appreciate moves differently. Some find a special magic knot intersting, some don't.

This pretty much sums up how I think of tricks when I see them (at least how I "rate" them unconsciously). It's a synthesis of subjectivity and objectivity, of emotions and "general truths" (lack of better word).

Thinking a bit further and asking myself what the qualifications are a trick has to meet to be considered "creative" in the diabolo community, I like to think of the community as a character it self, as it is based on subjective values and common points of view. The objective aspects are obviously true as well. If you wanted to extract a point of view from the combined statements to a totw, for instance, I think this is comprehensive.

Community & Events / Re: EJC 2008 - Karlsruhe, Germany
« on: August 09, 2008, 12:07:15 AM »
Not so much news to tell you today. People still juggle and play diabolo.

Priam did two workshops on variations of infinite suicides and high siteswaps. One of the few opportunities to see almost all of us diaboloists together and to actually recognize how few we are ;). The workshop itself was quite good, but there wasn't really much new information for advanced diaboloists, so I kept only one eye at the workshop and tried to follow a diabolo circulating around my body with theother one. I get closer to actually get through my new body combo without stopping nor dropping. Ideas keep coming while you exchange tricks, ideas and diabolos with a lot of nice people and there's always something you haven't seen before going on somewhere in the gym.

Dekel has got the cascade down pretty solid and can do something that appears to be 531 - it's crrrazy! Martijn, Ben., some other guys whose forum names I don't know and I had a lot of fun today and did some trick jamming and tried out some new things. Ben. and I even got to film a trick for the collaboration video.

I spent a lot of time juggling, too, so I can't give detailed information on what other great diabolists have been doing today.

There was another free swimming party at the Europabad tonight, basically a lot of water, fun and Ben. walking around with his shorts hanging down at the back of his knees. Definitely one highlight today.


Community & Events / Re: EJC 2008 - Karlsruhe, Germany
« on: August 08, 2008, 12:43:55 AM »
So I'm sitting right in the gym and mad jugglers yelling for blood take about one third of the practice space again. Well, maybe I'm going to join later - I can still taste the blood from the awesome diabolo combat yesterday night and it still makes me so randy baby.

It's raining outside, so the gym is pretty full. The diabolo corner is rather empty at the moment, I can't spot anybody of my old and new friends (no Duncan around, I'm missing you, sweetheart). Only three lonely fellows seem to be able to pick up some sticks after such an amazing show.

...Wait! Right, I've just returned from the gala show and I must say that this was the most amazing, mindblowing, mesmerizing show I've ever seen in my short, but experienced life (concerning convention gala shows that is). First of all, there was William Wei-Liang Lin. He has changed some parts of his routine since the BJC performance (which you can find on, had only one drop* and was basically freaking out the public during his whole performance. He was the last act, but worth to be mentioned first. In between, there was Tr'espace with two performances with a pianist, diaboloing, climbing and dancing on the piano. The first one had a lot of partner moves in it, with stick exchanges, vertax passing, mixed vertax/regular passing and other things that made the audience freak out and immediately calm down in awe alternatively. The other acts were just as crazy, e.g. Alexander Kulakov, a Russian ring juggler (video on youtube), a trampoline club passing team and a acrobatics couple pulling off some balances at the edge of what a human should be able to do.

I've just recognized Pranay among the colorful crowd of jugglers, he's watching some random guy pulling off (8x,6)(4,6x)* and holding it forever. I'm going to catch him and get some coffee somewhere, maybe watch some renegade (which I haven't done yet) or, as I said join the combat, even though my legs feel heavy and I'm tired. That hasn't hindered me from having a great time with great diaboloists so far.

Stay tuned for more updates tomorrow.


*I have to tell you that, he went from a 3d low shuffle directly into a 531 high and then went on shuffling and dropped one after some stage-filling corrections and then couldn't catch one throw, but managed to point on it with a somehow free hand and went on with 2d.

Videos of the Week / Re: VotW: 21 April 2008: Dave Peach
« on: April 21, 2008, 07:14:49 PM »
That was an awesome votw. Nice to see 3d becomes more and more a style you can actually do something with :D

Videos of the Week / Re: VotW: 7 April 2008: Tommi
« on: April 09, 2008, 09:07:40 AM »
Wow, that was awesome! I like your style (and your videos of course), so keep them coming :)

Could you tell me what music that was?

Videos / Re: Diab'N'Roll by Petit Lu and Tahia
« on: January 04, 2008, 02:35:30 PM »
Great video! It gave me some inspiration for a new trick, that's the best thing a video can do - thanks for that.

The tricks and the editing were both awesome, none of the "standard" stuff but still innovative and surprising.

Videos / Re: Antonin Jan. 2007 in Croissy
« on: January 04, 2008, 12:56:19 PM »
I can't find the link to the video. Is it just me or has t disappeared? All the videos on that site are form december 07.

Videos / Re: [SHORT VIDEO] Stay up late
« on: December 12, 2007, 06:33:22 PM »
I actually liked the editing, that b&w/short clip style is nice.

The tricks were cool, you have the kind of style I could watch all day. 2d kicks ass!

Videos of the Week / Re: VotW: 10 December 2007, Evan
« on: December 12, 2007, 06:21:54 PM »
These body-caught genocides seem to be a quite unexplored area - way to got there.

Nice TOTW, good work on the trick!

Tricks / Re: Tricks with bearing
« on: December 12, 2007, 06:13:35 PM »
As far as I know, there aren't any special tricks you could only do with a bearing diabolo. Long combos and grinds are easier and last much longer with a bearing, though.

Tricks / Re: (fast) Infinite Suicide without wrap
« on: October 22, 2007, 03:23:14 PM »
does anyone have any tips on doing the 360 one?
Basically just wait till a stick has just passed your head, make a step forward (at least at the beginning) and a very controlled movement.

Community & Events / Re: November, 2007: Diabolocamp No 3 in Germany
« on: September 13, 2007, 10:05:10 PM »
I'll definitely be there. If that changes anything for anyone... ;D

Videos of the Week / Re: [Trick] "the box or 441" with 3 low :)
« on: September 06, 2007, 12:54:55 PM »
Wow, that's just insane, imagine the new possibilities that trick offers! :o

Well, who's up for a (6x,2x)(2x,2x)* version? With the (2x,2x) as a sun/fan, alterrnating directions...

Videos / Re: Diabolos @ IJA 2007
« on: July 27, 2007, 01:02:11 PM »
Wow, great tricks in there! I don't find the level too low at all - rather very high! And very creative tricks, as well as technical skills. That's how it should be :D Seems that I missed a great convention.

General / Re: Fly Or Gong-Qun
« on: July 23, 2007, 03:13:29 PM »
I had the opportunity to play both (even at the same time ;D) at WJF4. I prefer the Gong-Qun. I've had my YoHos for 1 yearnow and they're even better than them, mainly because they're lighter. But that's just my opinion. Try them.

Videos of the Week / Re: VotW: 9 July 2007, Tr'espace
« on: July 16, 2007, 10:52:09 AM »
@Olobaid: The one saying "Alter" was Malte Peter (who - by the way- is at the WJF with fredo at the moment)
Well, I've just arrived and this video shows me that missing only one week of juggling news can almost make you miss such great things! An awesome video! Now I want some tricks! ;)

And that was definitely Malte's voice. :D

Videos of the Week / Re: VotW: 2 July 2007, Chris
« on: July 02, 2007, 04:03:45 PM »
LOL, that was during the Hanover Convention! Christof has some nice tricks, believe me! ;)

Gear / Re: New!!! Diamond Handsticks
« on: June 27, 2007, 08:34:58 PM »
I've got a pair and I must say these sticks are definitely worth every single cent!

They don't bend at all, they're just as rigid as good sticks have to be. The wieght balance is just perfect, they land so softly after a suicide and you have so much control, that I could hardly believe it the first time I was playing.

They're a bit heavier than the Xtremes, but due to the extraordinary weight balance, stick releases feel even smoother. However, I have some problems with two or three tricks. But I think this will be gone after some time of getting used to them.

They're highly visible, the see-through design makes them look glittey while flying throgh the air! A really nice effect, must try this under spotlight...

Get a pair! They're absolutely amazing sticks! Oh, and I think, white looks better ;D

Videos of the Week / Re: VotW: 19 June 2007, Josh
« on: June 19, 2007, 01:34:20 PM »
Wow, that vortex with that wristswinger at the beginning was cool! And I love how you directly go into the 360 fan after you caught one diab darkside! Oh and that minigeno antisuicide exit was cool as well! Ok, everything just looks so cool!  ;D

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