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Sean

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« on: November 28, 2004, 07:21:39 AM »
OK, so this seems like this was starting to get a little off topic from Norbi's thread, but it seemed far to interesting to stop talking about. Let's continue it here:

So what are some other possible tricks for 3 low. Priam brought up the cascade pattern that Lucas is starting to get. This area is almost untouched at this point - so many ideas to be discovered. Here are some ideas I have thought of or have heard of:

-3 diabolo mini-columns. This would be a STUNNING trick!
-Picking one diabolo out of the shuffle and whipping it while the other two keep circling then put it back into the shuffle.
-Grind a diabolo on each stick while one spins on the string.
-All sorts of sprinkler tricks - you'd need to get very good at 3 diabolo whipping or bring the pattern down from a high pattern first.
-Is any kind of knot transfer possible? I can't think of anything that would make sense at this point.
-All sorts of 2 diabolo tricks under a third diabolo that is popped up high.
-A 3 diabolo fan - 3 pieces to the fan!? :shock:

What other ideas and/or dreams do you guys have at this point?

Sean

norbi

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2004, 11:13:50 AM »
Well i think the mini columns might not be very mini, but would be significantly lower than 3hi columns. left tug for the left diab (and lift ofcourse) and the right for the right, then both straight out for the middle one. hopping one high and then started the 2 diab mini columns but slightly higher, then as the 3rd comes down, join it in. Granted i can not do 3, so dont know the physical possiblities of this, BUT it seems logical, right?

My other idea was a magic knot into 1up2up, this on the other hand looks like it might not work becuase the diabolo might climb too much and hit the stick....
1) front wrap a diabolo
2) hop the other 2 over it with your left hand (obivously) while the front wrapped one travels to the other side
3) backwrap one of the other diabs
4) trap/stall both the wrapped diabolo (at the same time, or whatever) on each stick. Now there is one stalled on each stick and 1 sitting in the middle, i think lighter diabolos (finesse) would help a lot if this trick is even possible.
5) throw everything up making sure the stalled diabolo release like a magic knot. The middle one will go a lot higher than the other 2
6) catch the low 2 either side of a leg stall, and as the high one comes down throw them up on sync
7) repeat, or go into mini columns.
Just a silly idea that i actually dreamt about about a week ago and seemed possible (but i was dreaming and dont know much about the physics of 3 diabs)

Finally on the fan note. Priams C-fan looks to me (and is :wink:) like a regular Clockwise sun that just gets carried on. So Baptiste's double-sun (or what ever you want to call it) is probably classed as a 3diab C-sun. right?

there's my 2 pence

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2004, 11:16:42 AM »
OK here's a suggestion: i am not even sure if it can be done, but here goes:

Do a right hand trapeze with one, a left hand trapeze with the other, and leave the 3rd to bounce on the horizontal string.

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2004, 12:59:25 PM »
Knot stealing with 3 seems even more impossible as with 2.. :roll:
3 Diabolo suicides?
3d stalls (Diabolumberto performs some kind of leg stall in "Diab au logis")
Over the arm tricks with 3 (and other orbits)?
Sun combo's?
Triple release? That's when you have 3 diabolo's in one knot (like the "Hook stall double release" with 2d), and then release it so all 3d go up in the air... and catch it (the hard part, I think :wink: )
Seperation (Free-string stall)? But maybe that isn't possible with 3d.....
Excalibur? (Someone tries/does it with 2, why not 3?)
Much more.... :D

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2004, 03:00:57 PM »
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3 Diabolo suicides?
Over the arm tricks with 3 (and other orbits)?
Sun combo's?

The crazy thing is that Baptiste is already decent at all 3 of these.  He does a suicide in the WJF promo video, two suns linked together, and around the leg. In the Diabology trailer you see him doing 3 around his arm. These "dreams" for the rest of us have alreay been mastered by the "great Baptiste"! :shock:

Actually I guess there are lots of people who can do an around the leg now. We've also seen videos of -Fred-, Tony, and Yabe doing this and I'm sure there are lots of others I am missing.

Excalibur with 3 could be possibly the most mindboggling trick I can think of. If anyone ever masters 3 to this level I will be very, very impressed!

Sean

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2004, 06:43:05 PM »
Theres an old school trick, related to mini columns, where one diabolo stays at the bottom and the other bounces across in an arc from side to side. I'd like to see that with three

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2004, 07:00:00 PM »
'ping-pong' i imagine the 3 diab version would be the low cascade Priam mentioned.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2004, 07:08:56 PM »
Yeah indeed...  :?  Insane trick.

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2004, 11:15:57 PM »
I think 531 with 3 around the arm is possible.
Baptiste can do a fan !

And I can do mini column with 2 diabolo when I stop one diabolo ...but mini column with 3 diabolos ....Lucas works this trick.
Trick of the week : http://diabolumberto.free.fr

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2004, 11:43:18 PM »
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I think 531 with 3 around the arm is possible.

Very cool idea.
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Baptiste can do a fan !

What!!?? How does he do a 3 diabolo fan!? :shock:

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2004, 08:17:34 AM »
i think i mentioned this in my first post in this subject, but u didnt comment on that! :wink:

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2004, 11:27:26 AM »
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Baptiste can do a fan !

What!!?? How does he do a 3 diabolo fan!? :shock:


the double sun baptiste do is actually a fan because there isn't any "diabolo switch" between the two sun!

it's a clockwise fan with  3 diabolos!


And what about that thing everybody did when they were first practicing 3 diabs: 1 diab is going up an down , bouncing on the string, while the two others are spinning around it like in a two diabs shuffle.

can anybody do it in purpose?
L.C.A.B. 2 : In progress

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2004, 11:46:27 AM »
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And what about that thing everybody did when they were first practicing 3 diabs: 1 diab is going up an down , bouncing on the string, while the two others are spinning around it like in a two diabs shuffle.

can anybody do it in purpose?


If memory serves, its called an 'orbitor'. Guy Heathcote (GbH) mentions it in a book but, as you say, something that happens when you are first practicing three.  Maybe it could be developed so that the diabolo going up and down does so with some height (like a toss juggling trick under high throw siteswap).

I'm in two minds about keeping my poor attemp levels of three as it is to just to keep this trick. (and the one where one diabolo goes around and the other two follow each other around closely as a pair) ;)

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2004, 01:14:38 PM »
So Priam... wanna film Lucas (or in fact anyone thats trying it) attempting mini cascade?

i'm sure i'm not the only one that would love to see it.

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2004, 05:21:48 PM »
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the double sun baptiste do is actually a fan because there isn't any "diabolo switch" between the two sun!
it's a clockwise fan with  3 diabolos!

But I can do a 2 diabolo sun without switches... and I can do a clockwise fan... is there not a distinction between these two or is it just style? With the sun without a switch the hands move in a synchronized motion and in the clockwise fan the hands are desynchronized. Maybe the distinction can get blurred. Wouldn't Baptiste's trick be more accurately referred to as a "double sun (without switching diabolos)"? What would it look like if the diabolos did switch?

OK after thinking about it, maybe a 3 diabolo fan that resembles a 2 diabolo fan is not possible because of the whole mechanics of having three objects rotating on a string.

How about any anticlockwise 3 diabolo tricks? Any ideas?

Sean

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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2004, 07:38:12 PM »
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And what about that thing everybody did when they were first practicing 3 diabs: 1 diab is going up an down , bouncing on the string, while the two others are spinning around it like in a two diabs shuffle.

can anybody do it in purpose?


If memory serves, its called an 'orbitor'. Guy Heathcote (GbH) mentions it in a book but, as you say, something that happens when you are first practicing three.  Maybe it could be developed so that the diabolo going up and down does so with some height (like a toss juggling trick under high throw siteswap).


The Orbitor can be described as a low siteswap ryrhm, it's 42424242...., the diab in the center does the 2, and both others diabolos do the 4.
Because when you do accidentely, it's really fast, it is synchronous shuffle, so we can say that the orbitor is the 42 rhythm done synchronously.

It's actually done by Trash in DIABOLOGY, in the video "Our secret" (424242) :-)

Priam

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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2004, 07:46:08 PM »
Stop teasing us about Diabology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace

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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2004, 07:59:22 PM »
So, how do u feel about filming some low-cascade attempts Priam (of anyone (Lucas :wink: )?

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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2004, 07:06:41 PM »
it could be cool one diabolo high and 2 diabolos swinning, like the club's trick!

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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2004, 12:59:30 PM »
has everybody downloaded this video??

http://perso.numericable.fr/legralai/carvin_category_diabolo.mpg

Has somebody doing a 3 diabolo sprinkler with a suicide exit, not sure what the guys name is, think i have a video of him trying 4 diabolos low aswell.

Nez

 

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