Author Topic: Minigenocides behind the back (Read 15660 times)

Wis · « **on:** January 17, 2014, 11:37:13 AM »

Hi guys,

I am here to ask you all, in the name of Daniel the Spanish-German fellow, if you have ever tried or succeeded in doing mini genocides behind the back. The rough idea is illustrated in this lovely sketch
http://sketchtoy.com/58341656

In case you wonder, that is just a belly.

Cheers

Scharling · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:08:42 PM »

Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=T7_AXndh5qk#t=46?

Or how?

Graham Milligan · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2014, 03:26:57 PM »

i've tried a infinite suicide --> genocide behind the back and a few others intergrals but never really succeeded. but worth a think i'll give it a go and see whats possible for me

Jarle · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2014, 03:54:55 PM »

I have a trick that includes a genocide released in front of the body and catched behind the back

never did minigenocides though

henri_kangas · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2014, 05:57:54 PM »

I have recently done a trick were you do a normal minigenocide but catch it behind the back. I think you are searching for a trick were you do the whole minigenocide behind the back though, am I right?

Graham Milligan · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2014, 06:42:37 PM »

could be done from a right wrap behind the back. think i'm gonna explore this more when im not so hungover and its not so rainy.

Wis · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2014, 01:02:46 PM »

Thanks for the answers! Marko even asked in their diabolo club, and around 20 people, including Joona and Jussi, said that it is too hard. So there is an open challenge for anybody willing to fight against nature! I will try a bit
Edit: yes, you are right Henri
@Scharling: at which minute?

henri_kangas · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2014, 02:06:46 PM »

I think I have the trick what you are looking for

Here is the link: (PS. It is me doing the trick)
Minigenocide behind the back for Wis (Diabolo)

Scharling · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2014, 02:45:50 PM »

Quote from: Wis on January 19, 2014, 01:02:46 PM

@Scharling: at which minute?

0:48 - But I don't think it is what is meant, as it is pretty easy..

Duncan · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2014, 02:51:58 PM »

Quote from: henri_kangas on January 19, 2014, 02:06:46 PM

I think I have the trick what you are looking for

I think your version is the 'doable' version, rather than the shoulder destroying one that Daniel/Wis want. But, maybe that's as close as we'll get.

Graham Milligan · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2014, 03:43:02 PM »

the one ive been trying starts infront of me and ends behind. i'll get a vid up soon

Wis · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2014, 02:19:20 PM »

Thanks for the video Henri! I think it is quite similar to what Scharling posted, but a bit better since in your trick the diabolo seems to stay behind the back all the time.
I am actually not sure if Henri's version is sufficient for Dani. For me this would do, but it has to be continuous, not just one minig. But probably Dani requested something harder, more shoulder breaker as Duncan said xDD
Do not worry Graham, if yours start from the front is not what we are looking for, at least now. But thanks for offering.
Edit: and thanks all for he debate! Crackers said he already got three repetitions of a version which could be henri's one. I will keep you posted.

kamikace · « **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2014, 03:53:55 PM »

Although I like the trick, I'm afraid that Henri's idea is nothing new

. Many people have been doing that genocide for many years. I was personally playing with it quite much some years ago (http://juggling.tv/3551 1:23).

The idea I posted is nothing original either, but it's a suggestion for a true step up. Continuous genos btb would open a new door for crazy integral and gen combinations!

Thank you for your efforts. I'll be very please to see it!
D.

Graham Milligan · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2014, 06:52:22 PM »

I know this isn't what Wis was talking about, but heres a what i came up with when trying to learn some behind the back genocides

Food for Thought.

Crackers · « **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2014, 11:24:43 PM »

For Dani (btb continuous mini-gens + bonus)

Here is what I have so far. Still sloppy but getting there. (More info in the video description)
We should have more discussions like this going on...

samuli · « **Reply #15 on:** January 21, 2014, 08:39:17 AM »

Looks like the real discussions on diabolo.ca are back. And that is SUPERB NEWS!!!

Thank you.

Wis · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2014, 08:40:43 AM »

Nice versions both of you! Graham's one is a bit easier in my opinion, but probably visually more pleasant. (Sick bonus, William)
I am very happy with how this discussion has gone so far. Thanks again for participating.

kamikace · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2014, 10:10:39 AM »

You're getting close, Will.
Now try to go for the real: arms raised and face forward!

Thanks Henri, Graham and all those who are training this now. It's an old idea, but it has a future!

dimensions · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2014, 04:25:12 PM »

I'm glad a real discussion is back!
Crackers, that is the ticket!
But wis' idea seemed, to me, like you face forward and you have your arms and diabolo blind and behind you

-Rob

samuli · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2014, 04:40:52 PM »

Graham's version is actually not behind the back but behind the head/ over the shoulder if we think this as juggling. And because wrap Crackers use the release for the miniG is between the arm and leg, not from the back. But they are nice tricks both of them. I have been working, without not too much of a success yet, with both of them but with the opposite wraps. That the release is kind of further back.

Crackers bonus trick was sweet. Good to have him as returning guest at FDC-festival this year.

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Author Topic: Minigenocides behind the back (Read 15660 times)