Author Topic: Minigenocides behind the back  (Read 15659 times)

Crackers

  • VotW Contributor
  • Thanks: 90
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2014, 05:51:12 PM »
I'm glad a real discussion is back!
Crackers, that is the ticket!
But wis' idea seemed, to me, like you face forward and you have your arms and diabolo blind and behind you

Yeah I know, that's the next step (hopefully...)

And because wrap Crackers use the release for the miniG is between the arm and leg, not from the back.

Nah, since it's behind the back, the knots are inverted. Only using external wraps, the release will be behind you and the landing between your hand and your back. Using only internal ones, the release is between your hand and back, and the landing behind you.
Either way, unless I'm missing something, if you do it continuously, you can't avoid having a moment where the stick goes between your hand and your back (even if you choose to mix up internal and external wraps).
That's the hardest part and is one of the reason why I chose to go with external wraps (and internals in regular continuous mini-gens). Because, for me, it's easier to land the mini-gen between your hand and yourself than it is to release it between your hand and yourself.
That's a big part of what makes this difficult in my opinion, since in this position it's a lot harder to consistently do the knot you want than in the regular position. And it'll probably be much worse when trying the whole thing blind.
(Hope I'm beeing clear, it's kinda hard to put this on words...)


Crackers bonus trick was sweet. Good to have him as returning guest at FDC-festival this year.

Thanks! Looking really forward to it  :)

kamikace

  • VotW Contributor
  • Thanks: 14
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2014, 09:55:31 AM »
M4U has got it* and it looks great! * It was a single geno, not continuous but it's on the right way! :D

http://imgur.com/6fBNncN

http://juggling.tv/13763
Rooted diabolist.

Graham Milligan

  • Thanks: 15
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2014, 10:24:00 AM »
This discussion has been great. really opened my mind to the whole behind the back thing. Yesterday i even tried to play snare while it was strapped to my back!
Got some new behind the back intergal ideas that i plan on nailing today. And its all thanks to you guys!

Cheers
G.
Some Craic!

kamikace

  • VotW Contributor
  • Thanks: 14
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2014, 10:59:29 AM »
I'm glad for that, Graham!

For the ones who dare to turn back the body and not change the plane of the diabolo:
You can also try to do only do half a turn and do the geno facing back. It must feel strange because the diabolo and stick are going to spin in the other direction (in relation with us), but it would look great for the audience.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward to the continous genos. For now, M4U has got the closest!  :-*
Rooted diabolist.

Crackers

  • VotW Contributor
  • Thanks: 90
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2014, 07:19:58 PM »
Yay Marco!
That looks so cool.

SebiHausi

  • Thanks: 20
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2014, 07:47:26 PM »
nice discussion, i will give it a try aswell tomorrow :)

dimensions

  • Thanks: 8
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2014, 05:35:31 PM »
I think that the first person to get it should be awarded an Honary VoTW
Who's with me?

Also M4U that was awesome!
Subscribe escapees6 on youtube it's me!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/escapees6

Diabolo88

  • Donator
  • Thanks: 30
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2014, 05:11:08 AM »
What about:

1. Wrapped infinite suicide in the right hand (assuming you're a rightie)

2. Get the diabolo on the held stick in a rotation and throw the stick (Frebourg does this trick 1:54 in if you're unsure what I mean. Could also do it from the entry but 99.9% certain it's too high to control)

Tony Frebourg

3. Catch with left hand behind the back (will be really snug to the body to catch the stick without touching the diab may need to turn a bit to the left)

4. Grab string with right before/after unwrap

5. Mini gens on repeat

^Not blind but could maybe be extended too or you could just look in another direction :P. Problem in that case I would guess is not smacking yourself in the ear...

M4U

  • Thanks: 10
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2014, 04:28:23 PM »
M4U has got it* and it looks great! * It was a single geno, not continuous but it's on the right way! :D

http://imgur.com/6fBNncN

http://juggling.tv/13763

like this?

Yay Marco!
That looks so cool.

thanks :D

Not Skilled Yet

  • Thanks: 12
Re: Minigenocides behind the back
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2014, 09:45:04 PM »
This is probably way easier, but what about 3 diabolo behind the back(with the shuffle fully behind the back, not poking out at the sides?
fluffy kitty

 

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2023, SimplePortal