Author Topic: 3 high vs. 4 high  (Read 4913 times)

Richard

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3 high vs. 4 high
« on: July 15, 2014, 09:38:12 PM »
I have a question for you about improving 3 high skills.

A few people I've met in the past have mentioned to me that to improve at 3 high, I should practice 4 high.

What are your thoughts on this?  I've seen people practicing 4 high at EJC and it looks like a LONG road.

Rich

maxx9r

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2014, 10:42:17 PM »
i think it helps to last the diabolos as short as possible on the string so the pattern becomes more low .... i also have problems to play a "low high pattern" . but for me it would take soooo much time to start 4 high by throwing start..... i usually do 3 low to high transition.....
im really jealous about the guy from taiwan (i think jack or something like that) in "the final 4" who plays such a nice low high pattern which probably makes siteswaps so much easier.....
SICK WIT IT !!!

maxx9r

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2014, 10:45:07 PM »
i sometimes comparing siteswaps with a mate frome my country "valerian" his number 7 in a 4 high pattern looks like 5 in my 3 high pattern....
SICK WIT IT !!!

Diabolo88

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2014, 03:32:37 PM »
IMHO it's the opposite as 3 high for me only clicked when practicing with limited ceiling. Start and throws all had to be precise.

Not Skilled Yet

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 04:29:35 PM »
someone told me that practicing 2high 360s helped get 3 high solid
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nickbonnes

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2014, 11:46:42 AM »
Uhm, I trained 4 high before I could 3 low, just boring xD
Anyway, I think it helps a bit, for tricks like 441441.. and 424242 and 423423423.
And my advice is; dont practice trapeze start with 4, its alot of crap :P

And Not Skilled Yet, thats true cause its the same rhythm like 3 (220)

Duncan

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2014, 12:52:45 PM »
@nickbonnes - I think you mean 330.

I'm still working on 4high and doubt I'll ever get there due to shoulder injuries. But I would say that anytime I put any practice into 4high, my 3high feels a lot easier afterwards. Perhaps that's just psychological though.

Richard

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2014, 05:16:55 PM »
Thanks guys,

I do the trapeze start with 3 high. Have spent a lot of unsuccessful time with 2 throws (inaccurate).

Arjan recommended I get my 3 high really low. It's SO much harder cause each throw has to be really accurate.

But it does make a lot of sense though.

Rich

Duncan

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2014, 08:24:04 PM »
I missed Diabolo88's comment - I also felt that my 3high only got solid when I didn't have the room to throw them really high. In a small gym, I had to be really precise, and then I started getting good runs.

Wis

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 10:04:56 AM »
I have heard also several times that lowering the 3 high pattern is very convenient to get good 3 high skills. In my case, the best 3d runs with 3 or 4 tricks (nor an expert, as you can see) were always achieved in this way.
"The string...the inertia...the hours"

7531

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2014, 11:30:39 PM »
i started to practice 4d high before taht my 3d high were at the 100%.
I improved a lot my 3d high because the rhythm of the 4d high is higher than the 3d high rhythm.
I thing that is a good way to imporve your 3d high.
sometimes i play 3d high in places with low roof. Is good to low your 3d high pattern to the 4d high.
 :)

Pieter

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2014, 10:09:07 PM »
Personally I don't think you will have a lot of profit from practicing 330 with 2 diabolos, to learn 3 high… my advise to learn 3 high is: just practice 3 high!
About the 4 high to improve your 3 high: you can try to do 4 high for about 10 minutes because it will make 3 high suddenly a lot easier if you get back on that after doing 4. BUT the start of 4 high is so difficult that it wouldn't help you getting your suffle better (IMO).
About the height, if you throw high, you probably will be able to do longer runs, but they will be ugly (but it's the way I learnt it..) I used to throw them very (/too) high, but I think it's not that difficult to learn to lower your pattern… but if you want to have a good low pattern from the beginning, yeah, then you have to practice it that way... ;)

7531

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Re: 3 high vs. 4 high
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2014, 12:33:08 AM »
I m agree with pieter, when you try 4d high some minutes, later 3d high looks easy

 

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