Author Topic: Quentin Bancel - 3 Diabolo Juggling (Read 31442 times)

Sean · « **on:** December 01, 2004, 12:05:47 AM »

Quentin Bancel posted a video of some 3 diabolo patterns here:
http://www.circusportal.net/e107_plugins/media/media.php?view.76

and annouced it on Jongle.net here:
http://www.jongle.net/forum/index.php?topic=9528

Because it's so hard to figure out how to download the video and avoid streaming it from their server the whole time... here's a direct link. Now make sure to "right click and save as":
http://www.circusportal.net/e107_files/downloads/videos/quentin.wmv

This, I think, is the most amazing 3 diabolo video I have every seen [edit, OK maybe except for that massive siteswap by JiBe

]. You can not miss this!! 3 diabolos high columns, cascade, medium height cascade, 3 diabolos low minicolumns for a beat and lots more out of this world stuff.

I'm going to go watch that again!

Edit - after I picked my jaw up off the ground I converted an MPEG version as usual. I'll send out a copy to the usual suspects... personal message me if you would like a copy.

We would love to have you on this forum, Quentin! As I said on Jongle.net - congratulations on your incredible progress. Very inspiring stuff!

secondary mode edit, Chiok got a copy onto jugglethis.net clicky thanks Chiok

Sean

norbi · « **Reply #1 on:** December 01, 2004, 11:57:14 AM »

Very VERY nice, perfect couple of mini columns, nice midi cascade, all beautiful.

Rusty · « **Reply #2 on:** December 01, 2004, 12:35:15 PM »

That's great he has so good control with 3 diabolos, both high and low. I wish I could be so good some day.

Do you know where he is from, I noticed that the music is Swedish.

Rusty, Norway

Arjan · « **Reply #3 on:** December 01, 2004, 05:27:46 PM »

I don`t know what to say...

Very nice tricks!

Sean · « **Reply #4 on:** December 01, 2004, 05:41:59 PM »

Quote from: Rusty

Do you know where he is from, I noticed that the music is Swedish.

Thanks Rusty - I figured that you, being Norwegian, could confirm that. I think the angry Swedish rap music really adds to the video.

I don't know where Quentin is originally from. On Jongle.net he says that he's now training at "Cirkuspiloterna" which is a Swedish circus school - the same one that Lena is training at.

He also speaks English and I've invited him over here. Quentin - if you're reading this, we'd love to have you join our forum and share your news, videos, and advice with us any time! If you ever want to brag about your latest crazy 3 diabolo creation - we'd love to hear about it!

Sean

Dave P · « **Reply #5 on:** December 01, 2004, 06:05:51 PM »

That's truly amazing.

Anyone else feeling the need to practice more?

martijn · « **Reply #6 on:** December 01, 2004, 06:39:18 PM »

First impression: "WOW!"

Quentin · « **Reply #7 on:** December 01, 2004, 09:35:50 PM »

I'm french but I'm actually living in Sweden for one year. What can I add..
I'm 18 years old and I started the three diabolo exactly one year ago..
Thanks for your critics

Sean · « **Reply #8 on:** December 02, 2004, 04:38:41 AM »

Hey Quentin - great to see you here! So if you started working on 3 diabolos 1 year ago, how long have you been able to do 3 low for? What was the first trick you learned with 3 low? How long did it take you to learn the pattern where the 3rd diabolo keeps popping high (522 - at 20 seconds into your video)? Any advice on learning that?

Your video makes me want to practice harder. Inspired by your video I finally got 3 around the leg a bit today!

Sean

Quentin · « **Reply #9 on:** December 02, 2004, 08:22:08 AM »

Quote from: Sean

how long have you been able to do 3 low for? What was the first trick you learned with 3 low? How long did it take you to learn the pattern where the 3rd diabolo keeps popping high (522 - at 20 seconds into your video)? Any advice on learning that?

I started to work on in september 2003 and I got it in january 2004. The first trick I learned was the 552 low but right now I have the feeling that the 3 around the leg is may be the easiest trick (but I'm not really sur because when I started to work on the 552 my 3 low wasn't perfect and sur at all)
I can't answer to your question about the time I spend on working the 552 without stop in between because I have not been practicing it regulary
An advice...to not give up

Quote from: Sean

Your video makes me want to practice harder. Inspired by your video I finally got 3 around the leg a bit today!

Happy to see that it is usefull...

Nice to "meet" you
Quentin

-Fred- · « **Reply #10 on:** December 02, 2004, 12:29:51 PM »

Hi!

Quote from: Quentin

The first trick I learned was the 552 low

This is a 4 diabolos siteswap

. I think you talk about 42...

Very nice video

!!!

--- Fred ---

norbi · « **Reply #11 on:** December 02, 2004, 01:11:27 PM »

I was gunna make that point. 522 is what Sean first mention and Quentin must have read that wrong. But there is only 1 round of 2 low so its only 42.

Quentin · « **Reply #12 on:** December 02, 2004, 02:25:45 PM »

Quote from: norbi

I was gunna make that point. 522 is what Sean first mention and Quentin must have read that wrong. But there is only 1 round of 2 low so its only 42.

Hum That's right, I got confuse by sean because I wasn't sur my self about the name of the trick. But may be can I start to think about this 552 (maybe I should train the 4 diabolo before...)
Thanks to correct me.Bye

Sean · « **Reply #13 on:** December 02, 2004, 02:33:36 PM »

I'm sorry, this is all really my fault: I meant to say 42.

I'd never stopped to think much about 3 low siteswap numbers before... now I have.

Quentin - if you learn 552 with 4 diabolos low... you will be my hero!

Have you ever tried the 3 diabolo sprinkler? Or 3 diabolo mills mess (high or low)?

Sean

JiBe · « **Reply #14 on:** December 02, 2004, 03:33:14 PM »

Quote from: Sean

Or 3 diabolo mills mess (high or low)?

Interesting, how would that work ? (high of course, do not talk to me about low yet)

JiBe

Eduardo · « **Reply #15 on:** December 02, 2004, 04:04:15 PM »

Just like mills mess, throw normal, right over left, normal, left over right and repeat, easy to imagine it, impossible to do it heheh

Sean · « **Reply #16 on:** December 02, 2004, 04:15:45 PM »

Quote from: JiBe

Quote from: Sean
Or 3 diabolo mills mess (high or low)?
Interesting, how would that work?

I would think that it would be similar to changing the direction of the diabolo shower every 3 throws by starting on the outside of the previous pattern. Or you could do a mills mess pattern without the side to side motion and have one diabolo that goes up on one side and then the other while the middle two keep changing positions. Of course, there wouldn't be any arm crossing going on, but the diabolos could be thrown in the same pattern as in mills mess. Maybe it can't be considered a "true" mills mess just because there is no arm crossing.

Quote from: JiBe

(high of course, do not talk to me about low yet)

Haha... I noticed the word "yet" in there; you want that trick eventually don't you.

Sean

seán_ · « **Reply #17 on:** December 02, 2004, 04:44:55 PM »

Quote from: JiBe

Quote from: Sean
Or 3 diabolo mills mess (high or low)?

Interesting, how would that work ? (high of course, do not talk to me about low yet)

JiBe

In my mind I envision this as having cross arm catches and throws with a seán_ siteswap* of 5xch,5x,4och,5xoch,5x,4ch

So forgetting the transition it would be catch crosshanded, throw this one back high, catch the second diabolo normally and throw it so it follows the first, catch third diabolo with cross hands (crossed the opposite way) throw it straight up, keep hands crossed this way catch first diabolo like that and throw it back from where it came, catch the second diabolo normally and throw it back again, catch the third diabolo crosshanded and throw it up straight.

basically like two balls following each other tennis style over a single net with crosshand(a), open, croshhand (b), crosshand (b), open, crosshand (a)

I don't claim this is possible and I definately don't claim I can do it, I havent worked it out using proper siteswap or beatmap, the throw heights aren't right, the timings are wrong and I dont think its possible but its what I envission when I think of a three diabolo mills mess

*my own version which makes sense to me but seems to upset all other jugglers

Seán_

Edit/ I know crosshand throws wouldnt be very easy

JiBe · « **Reply #18 on:** December 02, 2004, 05:26:42 PM »

Ok, so 2 versions :

1) one with just the shape of the pattern (3 outside throws on the left, then 3 on the right).

2) same as above with arm crossing stuff. Probably very difficult since having the diabolo roll on the string with crossed arms should reveal interesting...

JiBe

norbi · « **Reply #19 on:** December 02, 2004, 06:32:44 PM »

I suppose the literal translation would be cross handed throw, normal throw, other way cross handed throw, normal throw. Just an idea.
As for low i guess it would include a lot of stalls like the 2 diab version in one of Donald Grant's books.

High is definately possible, dunno if you can really call it mills mess though. I'd be interested to hear Sean's idea.

Arjan · « **Reply #20 on:** March 05, 2005, 02:17:01 PM »

To restart the discussion on 3 and 2 diab mm. I`m still waiting for some footage of someone even attempting it. I think a 2 or 3 d mm could be done theorathical, eve nwith crossed arms. Well anyway, I would like to hear some idea`s

barnesy · « **Reply #21 on:** July 14, 2005, 07:59:44 PM »

Just thought I'd bump this thread as Charlie Holland has just posted this on UK_jugglers: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uk_jugglers/message/7400

Crawley just started sounding a lot better, and it wasn't bad before!

norbi · « **Reply #22 on:** July 14, 2005, 11:58:57 PM »

and for anyone that didnt catch the video the first time, check this out...

http://www.norbithejuggler.co.uk/Quentin/

Can't wait to see him at Crawley. I also noticed that his only 3 posts ever, were in this topic, where are you Quentin? Come back.

juggleBG · « **Reply #23 on:** July 15, 2005, 06:00:55 AM »

The traditional rite of googling lyrics doesn't apply here, so I have to ask. Anyone know the music?

Will^ · « **Reply #24 on:** July 15, 2005, 11:41:15 AM »

Great video! Thanks for the mirror, norbi. I was dissapoited when I saw the original link was bust

Mattias · « **Reply #25 on:** July 15, 2005, 03:16:20 PM »

Quote from: juggleBG

The traditional rite of googling lyrics doesn't apply here, so I have to ask. Anyone know the music?

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It worked for me , but maybe thats because I am swedish

The song is "Diamant Tårar" by Organism 12

Have fun finding that å on your keyboard

Elmeri · « **Reply #26 on:** July 15, 2005, 03:57:07 PM »

I have å haha. But jag är från finland så jag kan liten svenska.

So, anyway it´s easy to "copy&paste"

Vojtas · « **Reply #27 on:** July 15, 2005, 10:02:18 PM »

Maybe you want to see this. Davvid is trying to do cascade in 3d low...

Sean · « **Reply #28 on:** July 15, 2005, 11:48:32 PM »

OK, first off - that 3d cascade video just posted by Davvid is stunning. Something to start working on.

Secondly, I've been getting requests up the wazoo for an MPEG version of this video... so, for a short time period I've uploaded a copy here:
http://myweb.dal.ca/sn516781/quentin.mpg (34mb)

Get it now or forever hold your peace.

norbi · « **Reply #29 on:** July 17, 2005, 09:35:40 PM »

oi, what on earth is wrong with the mpg version i am hosting? and have been for a week!

Fine, i know when i'm not wanted

As for the 3 low cascade...

AWESOME. If Priam reads this, you said you and Lucas were trying this? any of you had any success? and any videos?

Ta.

Peace...

Sean · « **Reply #30 on:** July 18, 2005, 01:40:50 AM »

Quote from: norbi

oi, what on earth is wrong with the mpg version i am hosting? and have been for a week!

Probably the fact that you failed to mention that it was an MPEG version that you were hosting. I didn't realize that either until now.

martijn · « **Reply #31 on:** July 18, 2005, 09:12:39 AM »

Yeah, that 3 low cascade is crazy! Wicked stuff guys.

norbi · « **Reply #32 on:** July 18, 2005, 03:40:19 PM »

Quote from: Sean

Quote from: norbi
oi, what on earth is wrong with the mpg version i am hosting? and have been for a week!

Probably the fact that you failed to mention that it was an MPEG version that you were hosting. I didn't realize that either until now.

Now why would i have a .wmv version on my computer?

Chiok · « **Reply #33 on:** July 18, 2005, 07:37:38 PM »

I've never used an Apple, or will ever own an IPod (those Apple centres are scary), but is it possible for Mac users to re-encode wmv's into .mov or .mpg files with TMPEG or similar programme? Or does the file just not work. Just wondering,

Chiok

norbi · « **Reply #34 on:** July 18, 2005, 07:41:15 PM »

it is possible to do a number of things (including viewing them) on a newer system. But not for anyone still running OS9 (me)

Pete · « **Reply #35 on:** September 03, 2005, 11:13:22 AM »

Norbi, (and sean) thank you soooo much for posting the mirror of that video. I tried the original link but it didnt work, then i read the whole thread thinking that i would never see it. Then you (two) made the mirror. THanx.

Stunning video. He has a really short string. Anyone know if theres a reason for that, other than 3 high is easier with short string.

norbi · « **Reply #36 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:20:14 PM »

not sure his reasoning, but its even funnier seeing it live, its just so ridiculously short, its so funny.

Davvid · « **Reply #37 on:** September 14, 2005, 04:47:25 PM »

amazing videos...does anybody know name of that wicked tune?

Sean · « **Reply #38 on:** September 14, 2005, 05:09:25 PM »

Quote from: Davvid

does anybody know name of that wicked tune?

http://diabolo.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8511#8511

Davvid · « **Reply #39 on:** September 14, 2005, 06:10:02 PM »

Quote from: Sean

Quote from: Davvid
does anybody know name of that wicked tune?

http://diabolo.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8511#8511

ohh...i didnt find that..

thanks

juggleBG · « **Reply #40 on:** September 14, 2005, 11:12:26 PM »

Despite knowing none of the language, I reccomend the song Feliz Naminaja by the same group (Organism 12). Its a fun song.

fredo · « **Reply #41 on:** November 14, 2005, 08:48:06 PM »

I've problems with downloading it, maybe the link doesn't work anymore?

Sean · « **Reply #42 on:** November 14, 2005, 09:09:06 PM »

It's an old, old video, but if you look up a page of messages you will see that Norbi mirrored it:
http://www.norbithejuggler.co.uk/Quentin/

William · « **Reply #43 on:** October 18, 2008, 12:04:58 PM »

One extremely epic bump.
Any mirrors? I really want to see this video.

Jakob · « **Reply #44 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:28:54 PM »

available: http://www.jugglethis.net/filemgmt/visit.php?lid=578

Why does Quentin use swedish music??

Wannes · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2008, 03:44:54 PM »

Wow, that was really a very nice vid! The diabolo on his nose is crazy

zwiggelbig · « **Reply #46 on:** October 18, 2008, 10:14:14 PM »

oh wow... 3 high looks so easy..

fasilevi · « **Reply #47 on:** October 19, 2008, 12:05:10 AM »

REALLY solid 42's, 3D high columns, high cascade, and this was on 2004... damn im impressed

Jakob · « **Reply #48 on:** October 19, 2008, 10:15:34 AM »

Rightclick

Diabolo88 · « **Reply #49 on:** October 24, 2008, 09:17:39 PM »

Quote

Why does Quentin use swedish music??

Swedish music is probably becuase he was studying at Cirkus Cirkörs school during that time, exactly WHY he used that music probably only he knows

.

I wanted to see a sequel to this video for very long, anyone know of any more recent footage of him?

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Author Topic: Quentin Bancel - 3 Diabolo Juggling (Read 31442 times)