3rd Base ideoligy

[Spink]

I am going to let Sean_ xplian this one to you (only if he wants).

But untill today i didn'y know what 3rd base diabolo was, allthough i had alot of ideas.

Just out of intrest what do the people who care think it might be??

check yo self

Spink

[martijn]

First of all... What the hell is it?!

[nev]

I'm imagining some sort of baseball reference  (not)
- maybe I'm just too naieve and sheltered to think of any other connection  but you certanly have my interest

[Arjan]

I am going to let Sean_ explain this one to you (only if he wants).

I`m sure he wants to explain. Well he`s gonna

Just out of intrest what do the people who care think it might be??

I`m not going to waste my time guessing what this is, while I`m much more intrested in this thing, and the ideoligy. Maybe it`s something new.

[Matt_]

he'd better explain!! otherwise i'll have to get the boys from 2nd base and 1st base over here to kick his ass.

[chris_cabry]

i think 3rd base could be the 'new thing'

[seán_]

I'm slowly getting my thoughts in order,
I too am interested in what people think it might be.

Some clues
3rd base is a baseball term but also has another meaning in Americana (pg forum remember)
2nd base tricks also seem to exist but the only one I have done is tied into trashes web (possbly stealing 3rd)
1st base tricks I don't think so.
4th, thats a regular trick
Aspects of node theory maybe come into it.
Tweakage* possibly has a bearing on this.
Not every trick is 3rd baseable, some tricks are allready 3rd base version of another trick, we just haven't recognised it.
Not every 3rd base trick is going to be as ellegant as a regular trick, some wont be noticable to those other than somebody clued into 3b, even then sometimes its something to do for its own sake

so that's all a lot clearer then?
Sean_

*tweakage: another concept not fully embraced by diaboloists en masse. but with parallels in several disparate (non juggling) pursuits

[Matt_]

that makes no freakin' sense

but, i always was bad at interpreting that sort of thing...

[seán_]

Sorry Matt_,

 that might give you an insight into how my thought process works especially when dealing with a fluid, developing concept.
I was hoping to have a bit more time to solidify my thoughts but when I have had up to 6 people at the same time questioning me on msn about either the base concept or arcane theoretical concepts tearing off to the realms of metaphysics then I tend to panic.

I think it will all become clear soon enough.
Sean_
(ironically, I'm far more excited by tweakage)

[frank0072]

wow, this almost sounds like science. You should try to make a video, or something not only text-based, because if you visualize it, it might become a lot clearer..

good luck

[Flo]

The first thing that came to me mind when reading about bases from 1st to 4th is the categorization into 4 dimensions.
A "regular" trick is usually done in 4 dimensions (width, height, depth [moving towards the audience...? i'm net really clear about this dimension], time).
A 3rd base trick would then be something with one dimension less, perhaps missing depth.

This were just some ideas, they don't really make sense to me...

Flo

[Morphine]

Yes, let imitate the poor communication skills of American teenagers. Hey, why not call it 3RD BAZE

[Sir. H Jock (josh)]

well you've(sean_) got my attention!
but i have no idea what it is, or may be... or anything.
but i know i wont be taking my eyes off this thread to soon..

[tommi]

Sounds interesting, but I'm pretty confused.. Why don't you just give an example of a 3rd base trick. I think someone mentioned 3rd base trapeze and sprinkler in the just learnt thread.

[Chiok]

Oh, I get it now!

Tweakage is definitely not fully explored.  It's all about the style.  

Chiok
(I'm such a poser...)

edit: C'mon now, who spelt "ideology"?

[Mark BMC]

I'm with nev on this one, I got baseball and "guess what sally cally ann let me do last night in her trailer" from the name.

I have been experimenting with trying to get the diabolo to do a 360 horizontally by tapping it in the air with a stick and giving it encouragement to turn with the sting on the cups before i throw when its spinning very slowly.

that’s not 3rd base I take it, I’ve also just cracked trashes web so any more info about the second base trick would be good to hear

Much confused
Mark

[LaNgErZ]

can someone please tell me! i physically must know.....

or could someone just explain tweakage? please i'm dying here

[MikeW]

anyone else starting to think that this is some joke? Maybe its just me but this reminds me of all the times i randomly said something so i could laugh at my friends while they tried to guess what i was talkin about. Maybe im just crazy and sadistic, who knows? maybe they'll tell us what it is so i dont keep checking this thread every hour, cause its really starting to bug me....

Mike Willett

[martijn]

You mean something like... the glazey?

[Spink]

OOh Wthats the Glazey??

Maybe we could start a thread on it !