Author Topic: Vertax is rubbish (Read 36625 times)

The Void · « **on:** July 10, 2007, 12:49:32 PM »

Seriously folks, it's ugly, and it's not worth getting your collective knickers in a twist about. Come on dudes, just concentrate on some real diabolo tricks instead of this nasty spacky jerkfest.

Thanks, you may now go about your day.

The Void
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Retardant

barnesy · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2007, 01:24:05 PM »

It does have some merit, and can be interesting as a bit of variety in an act, but yeah, it mostly bores me.

Susannah · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2007, 02:27:30 PM »

It's clearly rubbish when done badly, but I have to admit enjoying watching people who do it well. Whether or not it's worth the amount of practice it takes to actually be able to do it is another matter.

I think I'll stick with saying it's just not right unless I actually reach the stage where I can make it look good

Spink · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2007, 02:34:32 PM »

I agree with The Void, RUBBISH

no click

Niclas · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2007, 02:37:46 PM »

Vertax is absolute not rubbish.

Arjan · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2007, 02:59:47 PM »

Hahah, I love how you say that. In my opinion, vertax can be done in a nice way though. What about Tr'espace for example?

Sorry Void, you might not like it, and yeah it looks sometimes like a nasty spacky jerkfest, but I`m sure it doesn't have to be like that.

Crackers · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2007, 04:03:10 PM »

I like it XD

martijn · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2007, 04:06:01 PM »

Now that's some thought-provoking material right there folks!

dave from the grave · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2007, 04:19:19 PM »

Doesn't personal preference come to anyones mind?

Eric Moffett · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2007, 04:26:36 PM »

Vertax is not rubbish, it's a very unique way to play with the diabolo, and when done correctly, it is a lot of fun to watch. Like when Jose does a web in vertax in The Diabolo Feeling 3. As another diaboloist, I find that very fascinated as I am still learning with vertax. In my experience, most people who don't like stuff, are the same people who can't do it, or can't do it well.

garner · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2007, 04:54:50 PM »

Quote from: moff3tt on July 10, 2007, 04:26:36 PM

it's a very unique way to play with the diabolo

hahahaha

void saying that vertax is rubbish is the same as me saying that 3 low is rubbish. its a heavy stereotype but for the most part i find 3 low boring and useless, thats not to say that i can't be amazed by it. but most people always do the same things with it.
...maybe thats how the void feels. its just that everybody is doing the same things with vertax and they strive to learn a trick which has already been done and shouldn't be overdone (vertax genocides and such) while forgetting that improving form and simply creating brand new tricks is better to watch and a better thing to perform.

or am i talking rubbish

Alex! · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2007, 05:01:58 PM »

Quote from: garner on July 10, 2007, 04:54:50 PM

everybody is doing the same things with vertax and they strive to learn a trick which has already been done and shouldn't be overdone

Isn't that what most people do with normal angled diabolo all the time. The main difference though and reason why some people may find it boring is because not many people make vertax combos but just perform single tricks instead with intervals of Chinese whips.

I don't think there is much point of starting a topic to say vertax is rubbish. Its not as if everyone will just stop learning it.

garner · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2007, 05:12:39 PM »

Quote from: Alex! on July 10, 2007, 05:01:58 PM

Isn't that what most people do with normal angled diabolo all the time. The main difference though and reason why some people may find it boring is because not many people make vertax combos but just perform single tricks instead with intervals of Chinese whips.

I don't think there is much point of starting a topic to say vertax is rubbish. Its not as if everyone will just stop learning it.

but some people may take heed of the thoughts and decide to make it better. or to focus on other diabolo aspects.

...whats stopping you from making a long combo in vertax, and whats making you 'steal' other peoples tricks on the regular axis? nothing.it only serves to slow down progress

David - SAS1 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2007, 05:32:59 PM »

Personally I really enjoy vertax and find it the most creative as there is relatively few defined tricks compared to normal diabolo, I just think that sometimes people are not imaginative enough so they just use the same old tricks (genocides) where as if they try to be really creative and think are lots of new tricks then people may be more interested because they are seeing new tricks.

Wow all one sentance but those are my views

-Leo- · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2007, 05:44:25 PM »

About two months ago I would've agreed (almost completely) with what The Void said, but then I realised it's just another challenge. Also whoever said vetex is 'unique' isn't true now, that may have been true a couple of years ago but it isn't anymore.

I think it was said in a light hearted manner and no-one should take it too seriously,

-Leo

martijn · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2007, 07:24:43 PM »

Oh, so now it's vetex?

Dracodragon · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2007, 07:34:19 PM »

Haha, yeah whatever happened to Excalibur? Now we're changing the "a" to "e" in vertax...

Anyway, my two cents on this. Personally, I love the vertax style. I find it challenging and amazing. Although there are not as much tricks possible, I still find it unique. It also seems to get some crowd pleasing as well when I use it in performances, so it isnt too boring from an audience perspective I suppose. Well, what really matters to me is that I like the style. To tell you all the truth, I wouldnt really give a damn if everyone hated the style, I will still do it because I think its cool. Not to seem rude or anything, but thats the cold hard truth when it comes to what I practice with diabolo (although it doesnt mean I am going to have a closed mind about new tricks and different styles).

nev · « **Reply #17 on:** July 10, 2007, 08:22:53 PM »

I hate vertax

Pete · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2007, 09:59:59 PM »

I've never really been a big fan of vertax, its good fun and at times very impressive. I'll admit i don't enjoy doing it all that much, it feels a little clumsy, but thats only because i don't do it enough. For ages i was annoyed at how stage acts would all have a short, and sometimes lame excalibur part in the middle just to prove it could be done to their audience, even if it looked naf. But i can see why some people would love to do it and prefer it to normal axis diabolo. As Dave from the grave said, it really is a matter of personal preference. If someone wants to do vertax and you think its rubbish, let them do it and feel justified by the fact that you think they look stupid or whatever. If someone doesnt want to practice vertax and you think they should, let them not do it, and quietly know that they're missing out. Don't make a song and dance about it, just let them get on with it and do something worthwhile, instead of moaning about what other people are doing.

OLOBAID · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:37:40 PM »

the most enjoyable thing on vertax is passing

i love vertax passing, its soo much fun!

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