Vertax is rubbish

[Jesse]

I really wasn't a fan of vertax until I learned genocides. Now I'm addicted and absolutely love it!

[Shaun]

this was unexpected!
i use to not like it, but then i learnt how to do it, and i love it
like jesse, vertax genocides, whips, passing ufos etc are all addictive

[Matt D]

Although there are not as much tricks possible,

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Who says there are less pssibilities, there should be just as many things to do and some that can't be done with a normal axis diabolo. The only thing is that it seems that people just try to convert normal diabolo tricks into verax, that is why vertax is boring alot of the time. People who are really good at vertax should try to make new tricks instead of just converting old ones. Unfortunately I am terible at vertax so I don't really know what could be done.

[tomangleberger]

Doesn't this week's VOTW prove that Vertax isn't rubbish?

Despite my inability to progress at it, I think it's the most exciting part of diabolo.

Rather surprised to hear anyone is uninterested. I cant wait to see what they come up with next.

[Eric Moffett]

You know... as soon as somebody gets a good 2 diabolo vertax, everybody will be doing it =/ and it will go from "Vertax is rubbish" to "Vertax is not rubbish" =/ something I thought about.

Is it ok if I make all my text blue? It's readable enough?

[barnesy]

Is it ok if I make all my text blue? It's readable enough?

No. And no.  Right, I'm glad that's sorted.   

[tommi]

I don't think excalibur is rubbish, most people are just rubbish at it . Only few has taken it to the level where it is actually interesting to watch for a bit longer time (Tr'espace for example). I think  body movement is very important part of excalibur-diabolo, not only spinning around to keep the diabolo from tilting, but something that really is part of the trick itself. And also the thing in excalibur I find interesting is passing, there is so much things you can do, and it adds something to the movement-element. So yeah, two or more persons, nice choreography's and dynamic passing with vertical axis diabolo, that would be sweet (Tr'espace again )

[The Void]

Right then...

OK, firstly sorry for being a bit hit-and-run - I started this topic just before I went away for a week. Mostly with my tongue in my cheek, and to see the reaction.

Tijn: Yep, it certainly seemed to stir up a bit of a hornet's nest. There are obviously those out there who are less than wowwed by Vertax. To reply some specific comments....

Alex, Jarkho: impressive to who? Impressiveness is subjective

Niclas: Nice argument

Arjan: There are exceptions to every rule. I've seen Tr'espace's show, and loved it.

moff3tt: I choose not to learn vertax, 'cos I don't like the way it looks. I'm sure I could learn (at least the basics of) it quite quickly if I wanted.

garner: No, you're not. Well said.

SAS1: That's not a sentence.

Draco: "I wouldnt really give a damn if everyone hated the style, I will still do it because I think its cool." Good for you.

Nev: How can you say such a blatantly provocative thing?!

tomangleberger: That votw is rubbish. As for the one afterwards.... Oh my prophetic soul!

So to close, if you want to do vertax, or whatever, go ahead and I'll watch someone else in the meantime. Maybe I'll change my mind one day. But that day is not today, tomorrow or next week.

The Void
.................
...was sorely tempted to put a bit of Garner doing vertax in the Bungay video. You know, just for kicks...

[David - SAS1]

SAS1: That's not a sentence.

Ok, maybe not, it is more clauses placed next to each other without connectives

[karatepekka]

For you who think that vertax is rubbish.

You are just jealous because you cant do the tricks yourself.
Ofcourse it looks like rubbish if you cant do any tricks, so stop whining and start practising!!

[DiaboloFeeling]

.. just...    xD!, so funny post

[garner]

guys. STOP! he made a closing statement already

[Marco]

My opinion is that vertax is not rubbish. There is lot's of ways to choose how to diabolo, and vertax is just one of them. Some people may wan't to master all of the styles (or just most of them). Vertax is very impressive, if its "done right". If that would talked about me, that's true, because i can't do it. Some people may be bored to normal way of doing diabolo, they wan't to try new. Vertax is good way to start doing something different. I don't know what others think, but i wan't to improve my skills in diabolo. But, those are just my opinios... Sorry if i somehow managed to insult somebody. I didn't ment to say anything bad.

Marco

guys. STOP! he made a closing statement already

Sorry  Just wanted to express my opinion.

[nev]

guys. STOP! he made a closing statement already

I 2nd that.... click (& I don't click lightly) - time gentlemen please!

[busk]

i love to do excalibur..but not so much watching it..



is like jazz music..

[mofro]

I hear you brother VOID its crap and you all know it so just face the truth.

mofro

[Ginger_Tom]

The void, as always, is right.
VERTAX IS ****ING ****!
Really bad diabolo.
It's just a poor show.
Nev keeps saying i'll get into it, but, nah.

GT

PS: I know he made a closing statement nev, but seriously, it sucks.
PSSSSSSSSST (apart from the crazy shiz nev tries with it)

[Ilias]

This topic is rubbish..

[karl e dangerous]

this topic ended many messages back but hey vertax is not crap its an amazing skill to hold and if u think it sucks you suck and should not refer to yourself as a diaboloist i however cant vertax but want to be able to

[looby]

Vertax is rubbish