Is the S-fan a lost art?

[Ginger_Tom]

I was just checking out the forum and it got me thinking, whatever happened to the S-fan?

Once such a celebrated trick which now alas seems to have gone down the tubes in the general diabolo community, although I still get asked all the time for  fan and s-fan advice, I never see it crop up on the forum so much now.

Quite a while ago now Nev and I pretty much gave up on the S-fan in lew of the 'Forever Fan', but I now notice we use a mixture of both, whilst not chatting about the S-fan anymore, the trick which brought us together as diaboloist's and claimed many a drunken debate over technique and long thoughtful hours of conversation at conventions.

Has the trick became perfect, or is there still work to be done?

And by the way, has anyone ever tried to beat my last s-fan endurance time of 2hrs 34mins and 15secs?

Come on people, who still loves the S-fan? Or better yet, who loves to hate the S-fan?

Lets not let such a fun trick fade into the past, I say an S-fan revival is in order, I mean, for godsake it has its own section in the tricks archive.

Theres my rant, make of it what you will, but theres no denying the s-fan is still a cracking, enjoyable trick.

GT

[Jussi]

no its not.. s-fan will never die.. it has so many 2d knot possibilities, great variety of starts and endings (genosides and such).. that swinginng-fan/sprinkler-thing (busk does in colloboration video) and so on..

but i have never practised endurance.. i think s-fan should be fast, short and functional maybe my technic isnt perfect at all, but its good enough to use this nice phenomenon in tricks..

[Ben.]

what can i say. s-fans rule.

[Daniel]

i want to say makis s-fan to mini gen is my favourite 2d trick and he performs it so beautifully

i think it owns and will always have its place as a staple 2d trick

daniel,

[garner]

well i hate S-fans. that is to say that i hate a plan S-fan.  prefer to enter and exit it while missing out the fan entirely as they are dull. the only time you''ll see me do an S-fan for a long while now is if i'm swinging or spining

[Ginger_Tom]

Dont get me wrong, I love Makky, but I always found his S-fan to mini-g a bit stilted, but I have my own spin on s-fan and mini-g tricks and believe I have found the perfect technique.
I might even post it, but more than likely ot because I'm lazy, I might do a mini workshop on the trick at Chocfest.
GT

[William]

Please do.
Love S-fans. Better possibilities. Anybody who thinks they aren't worth the time, is not worth my time.
I think the S-fan has died down because many have been used new "Nu skewl" bearing diabolos are just thought "Pfft. Don't need to bother, my fans go on forever anyway." I am much happier to have started before all these crazy modifications came out. So I can learn my fundamentals first.

My 2c. (Does it matter more now that the Aussie dollar is increasing in value..?)

[Dan]

S-fans are like Marmite.

I for one love them but i prefer using them as a basis for other tricks (eg. 2d mini gen, knots, etc) yes than can fit very well into a nice combination of tricks and help keep the diabs going, but like garner said a plain s-fan is not so brilliant to look at (from a jugglers point of view).  A performance for a non-juggling audience however just screams out for an s-fan somewhere in the routine.
 
A healthy range of fans in general is what i deem skillful as it shows you can master varying techniques.  A Z-fan (or whatever the reverse S-fan is called where both diabs lose speed) for instance takes a certain measure of technique to keep it going for any length of time.  Similar to a regular fan where some people can hold it for a long time and others... um not so much.

Dan

[Squiggle]

I don't like fans.   

I don't think s-fan is dead, I'm sure people still practice it. :S

[Diabolo Bro]

I think The s-fan is leaving more because there is nowhere to go from there, there are exits and what not but the ticks require so much more skill, and can be done easily with a regular fan.

[Marijn]

S-fans are just plain sexy

[The Void]

Perhaps it's just all been said. Just because people aren't talking about something online, it doesn't mean that they aren't doing it anyway.

The Void
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Really should film that exit sometime.

[redchina]

I think S-Fans are okay and I would do them more if only I could keep the diabolos going longer without tilting. How the heck is it possible to keep an S-Fan going for two hours?

[Diabolo Bro]

And by the way, has anyone ever tried to beat my last s-fan endurance time of 2hrs 34mins and 15secs?

Wow, incredible, and no. I heard the record was 25 min. 2 and a half hours is insane, wow, wow, wow.

[Beni]

S fans have so much more potential because they are symmetrical. Normal fans are just tweaked vortexes.

Beni
(Sucks at all fans)

[Ben.]

by the way, has anyone ever tried to beat my last s-fan endurance time of 2hrs 34mins and 15secs?

GT

for the sake of everyones forearms don't even try to break this  that is a truly amazing record

[-Leo-]

I like both Ac and S-fans. Their preference depends on whether my Flys are bearinged or not. I think it'd be wrong to say that a trick is 'dead' but there is certainly less buzz about them now -on here at least. I think The Void got it right.

-Leo

[TomMiller]

for the sake of everyones forearms don't even try to break this  that is a truly amazing record

im off to try to beat that record

[Valium]

endurance is always boring, but I like sfans for knot exits and entries

[Beni]

Is continuously swinging an S fan infinite with fixed axles? I daresay it is with bearings...