TND 2009-4d low

[yap1404]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ideaHahmU
new version coming soon

[William]

Why does everybody learn it at once?!
9 catches, looked solid.

[martijn]

Why does everybody learn it at once?!

Because people know it's possible now - they've seen it with their own eyes. Takes away the mental boundaries.

[Diabolo Bro]

I am convinced that this run lasted for more than 9 catches, this shuffle looks solid and correctable, if it stopped it shouldn't have.

[Ethan]

i agree with Al, it definatley lookes workable, looking forward to the movie

[Crackers]

Also seems lower compared to the others I've seen. Even if the run isn't longer (which we don't know for sure), it looks like he will have it solid before everyone else.

[Hector 641]

Yes i think so too

It looked really smooth, even better then dekels, but i hope dekel beats him, because i like dekels shuffle style much more.
So go everyone who tries to learn 4d ;p

[Duncan]

It looked really smooth, even better then dekels, but i hope dekel beats him

When and how did this become a 4d arms race?

[mike.]

When and how did this become a 4d arms race?

when dekel started to gather as many diabolos as possible, then taiwan was like "we dont like this" and then they just started to get as many as possible. not one has got 4D solidly down yet so you can say that there was no fighting per say.

lol. history knowledge at work

[Duncan]

when dekel started to gather as many diabolos as possible, then taiwan was like "we dont like this" and then they just started to get as many as possible. not one has got 4D solidly down yet so you can say that there was no fighting per say.

lol. history knowledge at work

What I was getting at was Hector's apparent wish that there was a clear "winner" in this "race". What I was alluding to was how ridiculous it is to think of this as a race to be the first with a clean 4d. I'm just someone who can't wait to see it working, but not in a sense that the person who gets it to work is the winner of some international race to crack 4low. Whoever does it, does it - but they're not going to get a trophy. Unlike the previous quest for 3low, there are likely to be several people who crack it around the same time thanks to more widespread knowledge of how to achieve this (the internet helps). 3d was mystical as it was hard to watch someone else do it. 4d already has a ton of people trying it and experimenting on someone else's technique.

"History knowledge at work?" Please, do explain what you mean by this, as it seems you clearly understand the situation better than myself.

As for the video - great stuff.

[Diabolo Bro]

Agree with duncan, I think this quest for four low is one for the diabolo community as a whole, I don't think there will ever be a specific moment where one person gets it. Can we drop this discussion now, I dont want this thread to go totally out of hand like so many have.

[mike.]

i was joking with a vague reference to the cold "war" maybe its not as clear to you guys because you don't live in the U.S or russia

but yes the video is very nice

EDIT: i'm not encouraging someone to be the best or who gets there first, i was just having a little fun is all

FURTHER EDIT: i hope that people do not take this the wrong way. it was a joke and no one should take it as an insult. if it did, i apologize...back to 4 low

[Diabolo Bro]

maybe its not as clear to you guys because you don't live in the U.S

*clears throat* Vermont?! (not part of the real America) (vague Palin reference)

Oh great here we go.

Apologies for the above comment. I think however that Duncan (and myself for that matter) just saw this as a sudden arise of a competition, where their really doesn't need to be one. 4low is definitely something new thats developing as we speak. A bridge thought uncrossable is now being crossed. Can we just forget who is crossing it and realise that this is a great leap for all of us.

[Ethan]

keeping the subject on the actual video... what song, or part of a song is that? its pretty sweet

[mike.]

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On the subject of four low, his looked very solid and relaxed

[Sharpes]

I think dekel's looked much more in control. I'm pretty sure that wasn't stable, and if that's the clip they chose to show, it indicates that that was an exceptional run.

[fasilevi]

I think dekel's looked much more in control. I'm pretty sure that wasn't stable, and if that's the clip they chose to show, it indicates that that was an exceptional run.

I was about to say the exact thing you just said. Agreed.

[Janey]

hm, its not really to this topic, but does someone know?
who was the first person who played 3d low?

[Dennis]

Jochen Schell was the first European to my mind.......

[flep]

I've got an off topic question about 3 low

when did people start playing 3 low?

and was there allso this psychological barrier like now with 4d that people always said it is impossible?

it not that much offtopic, because maybe we can 'project' this onto the evolution of 4 low^^