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nev

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2005, 01:37:18 PM »
Quote from: seán_
P.s. Internet downloading is killing home taping


HA HA HA HA HA

As Seán said though, there is plenty of opensource software about which, although not as good as commercial software, will get the job done.  No matter what software you use, the finished product is only as good as the time you put in to editing it (which explains my crap videos). :wink:

Alternitavly you can download trail versions of the major commercial packages including Adobe Premier 7 here www.computervideo.net/software.html
which will let you try before you buy (recommended - I once tried a copy of Pinacle which was at the time the industry leader, found it to be crap for me - loads of functions but too complex to use unless you spent months learning it - thus saved a few hundred quid by not buying it).

Some freeware editors can be found here

www.freewarefiles.com/cat_6_74_Video-Players-Editors.html
http://www.tucows.com/downloads/Windows/AudioVideo/Video/VideoEditors/
www.Diabolomoves.co.uk/diabolos/ - shop for Sundia diabolos, Handsticks & String

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2005, 10:43:48 PM »
i dunno, i just checked Amazon, go get Premiere Elements for 89 USD or Vegas Video for 80USD. i feel pretty lucky that i got Premiere Pro 1.5 for free ($700 software!!)

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2005, 02:31:16 PM »
Hi guys,

I know it's a bit off topic, but what cameras do you guys use? E.g. Feel good inc. and the Circusplanet 05 video have a great quality... i've got a Panasonic NV-Gs 75, it's a quite good camera and I was really disappointed when loading my first video on the pc.

I haven't tried a direct output into avi (without compression), maybe it's just because of the bad software (Windows Movie maker and the Standard Panasonic software)?

Thx Fredo

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2005, 07:54:44 PM »
i use a sony DCR-HC21, it was pretty cheap (and check out the gunn video for the quality).

remember, always ALWAYS use firewire to rip the DV video. that's the only way to go ;)

fredo

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2005, 09:58:27 PM »
Yeah I thought about this, it's because of the cable! The USB sucks! I don't have a FireWire output... Maybe a AV-cable or a S-Video would work? What's better? Or is the DV-cable the best?

EDIT: OK i see... I've to buy a DV-cable... that's the best...because it's FireWire :D ANd what about the S-video? That's not as good as the firewire of course, but what experiences do youv have with it?

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2005, 12:02:36 AM »
well, Svideo sucks. all you need is DV/firewire/1394 whatever you want to call it.

the camera films in digital. DV transfers it in digital. you edit in digital. no quality loss thus far. then you can encode it and send it on its way.

if the camera films in digital...then you transfer it in Svideo..that's an analog signal. so it has to go digital-->analog then get encoded from the analog back to digital, which is a quality loss.

fredo

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2005, 10:00:08 AM »
Thank you, I just ordered a DV-Cable...

fredo

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2006, 04:03:38 PM »
OK things just cleared up and I thought I should share it for those who don't know (as I did):

The quality with USB is the same as with Firewire!! But you have to follow one of those ways when copying your film from your camcorder to your pc (with a MiniDV-Camcorder at least)

1.) Software x with FireWire > Editing with Software x (mustn't be the same as the "x" before)

2.) The Original Software (which is delivered with your camcorder) with USB > Editing with Software x

Just follow one of these ways and everything's OK  :) I just wanted to spare you all the problems and loads of support mails I had...

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2006, 07:48:44 PM »
does anyone know how to do the four videos at once effect as seen at the end of diabology, by using sony vegas?

any help would be greatly appreciated

martijn

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2006, 06:53:20 PM »
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does anyone know how to do the four videos at once effect as seen at the end of diabology, by using sony vegas?

If you want 2 or more clips played at the same time, you have to put each of them in a seperate video track. They have to be played simultaneously. Then, you will have to resize the clips to let them fit all into one screen. You can do this by using the Event Pan/Crop tool. If you zoom in on the videoclip, it's the little icon in the right corner (above the Event FX tool), or you can just select the clip and click Tools>Video>Video Event Pan/Crop.

Hope that helped :) good luck!

fredo

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2006, 12:26:04 PM »
If you guys are talking of Soy Vegas, what do you mean? The full version or the Vegas Movie Studio?

And what is actually better? Vegas or Premiere? (And inbetween them the Vegas 6 or Movie Studio / Premiere Pro or Premiere Elements?) Are the smaller versions enough?

What is easier to learn?

martijn

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2006, 12:50:32 PM »
Quote from: fredo
1) If you guys are talking of Soy Vegas, what do you mean?

2) And what is actually better? Vegas or Premiere?

3) What is easier to learn?

1) If I am talking about Vegas, I mean Sony Vegas 6.
2) I think they're the same, they are different in features (transitions, effects..) but they are both of excellent quality (I think :))
3) I found Vegas easier to learn, but if you'll ask a Premiere-user, he'll probably say he found Premiere much easier :P

So basicly, try both, and see what you like most.

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2006, 08:16:36 PM »
let me tell you, Premiere Pro and Vegas Pro (or whatever the l33t version is called) are wayyyy overkill for juggling videos. unless, i guess, you're going to make the Sin City of diabolo videos (i.e. super post production, filmed entirely on green screen, a new level of visual techniques, etc).

luckily there are the "cheap" versions of each of those that have plenty of features. personally i think Premiere is easier, Martijn is right, i guess since i've used Premiere for a few years (since 6.0) i feel more comfortable with it. i tried Vegas once and it didn't really do it for me.

Shawn Fumo

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2006, 10:15:36 PM »
As far as audio editing goes, check out Audacity. Very nice and open source.

One nice thing about Premiere (not sure if it is in the non-pro version) is a mini-after effects capability. So you could do something like put in an arrow and animate it following the motion of something. Pretty helpful in certain instructional cases.

As far as free video editors go, most of them seem to be on linux at the moment. Something people may want to check out is Dyne:bolic:
http://dynebolic.dyne.org/

It is a linux system that boots up from a cd and comes with several linux video editors like LiVES, Kino and Cinelerra, as well as other apps. I haven't tried it yet, but seems like it could be cool. One possible sticking point is I think it needs FAT32 instead of NTFS if you want to read and write from the windows paritions, but I'll have to look into that more.

As for USB on cameras, some may support full quality through the USB port but many will only do a lower quality version through USB. I think the issue is that for many consumer cameras they use USB1 so you can do stuff like a webcam, but they don't want to spend more on USB2 for full quality since there's already the firewire port. But if you're buying a DV cable, make sure you have a firewire card or that your motherboard comes with it already supported, or else you'll need to buy a card too.

Shawn

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2006, 10:25:06 PM »
Oh, and if there's anyone here that has a bit of a programmer's outlook or doesn't mind making scripts, Avisynth is really powerful:
http://www.avisynth.org/

For instance, that effect mentioned earlier where you have the screen split into four videos is pretty easy to do with Avisynth. There's also many plugins for stuff like higher quality slow motion, stablization (de-shaking), and various other stuff. I did this gradual slowmo effect using avisynth, some plugins, and a function I wrote.

Using Virtualdub's reload video feature, you can kind of get an editing environment going, though it still isn't as suited for editing something to music. But for specific effects or for processing before final compression (a lot of the free compressors use avisynth for input), it can be helpful. Can spend way too much time on Doom9's forums fussing with various avisynth related stuff if you aren't careful though.. ;)

Shawn

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2006, 09:02:34 AM »
man, ramped slow-mo is sweet. i remember doing it for skate videos back in the day using Premiere 6.5 to edit and...dun dun dun...Adobe After Effects. the only thing i ever figured out how to do in after effects was ramped slowmo :p

Shawn Fumo

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2006, 03:20:54 AM »
Hah cool. I didn't know After Effects could do ramped slow-mo, but it makes sense that it could. When I learned After Effects at school, I used it mostly for some animation effects. That program really does have a cool interface on it. Now that adobe bought macromedia, maybe they can make flash's interface a little more... coherant.. ;)

Shawn

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2006, 03:22:24 PM »
hey guys! i have lot of questions about video editing, but for the moment the only i remember are those 4:

- my camera is a canon MV800 i don't know if it's a good quality camera, but when i put the videos on my computer the videos looks more dark than the video showed on the screen of the camera..how can i set my camera for make video at home?

- when i make video at the outside the camera doesn't record colors very well..i mean..the video has color, but it's all very sad, its like all quite grey have you understand?

- i want to exit from the hole of windows movie maker... there are some video editing software open source available on the web? or i have to buy software like sony vegas or pinnacle studio?

- movie maker sucks! when i take an high quality video from another video already edited (an example..a part of the best of year of capitaine busson) movie maker save the part on my computer with a worst quality of the original, although i have ordered to movie maker to save it with the best quality possible.

Argh i NEED to make a video!

thanks! and sorry my english!

_Matz_

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2007, 03:24:36 PM »
i was wondering, when i was making a 2d backwraptutorial, how to put text to frames, and it looks like film is going on  and there's text. im using pinnacle 9. tips? sorry my englisah isn't too good, but i wan't get some help to make better videos.
|)><(|   hope you understand my english

martijn

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Re: Editing Videos
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2007, 05:22:32 PM »
You don't need to make another 2d backwrap tutorial. Have a look at mine: http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=53.msg9092#msg9092

 

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