Vertax Infinite suicides

[jake loves diabolo]

Hi guys, I'm just wondering if there is any good tutorials on how to do vertax infinte suicides online, preferably a video? Tips would be great too. Thanks a lot.

[Arthur]

Ask Matt Hall, i've seen him doing it at the EJC 2008 and the NJF 2008. maybe he can make a tutorial

[jake loves diabolo]

Thanks, I'll check it out

[jake loves diabolo]

In case anybody is still interested, Matt Hall does a good one in this video

http://revver.com/video/1044433/klutz-juggling-club-july-13-2008/

Not a tutorial, but pretty clear.

[Richard]

Here's another vid - the diabolo.ca collaboration video 2006 - at 2:28

http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=2235.0

[Diabolo88]

Diabolo.ca VotW: 11 may 2006, Tempei

Tempeis video is very clear. Learning to "step away" from the stick is the mainpart of the trick really (not that difficult). Doing it smoother like in the second clip is a bit more difficult.

[TLFQ]

Diabolo.ca VotW: 11 may 2006, Tempei

Tempeis video is very clear. Learning to "step away" from the stick is the mainpart of the trick really (not that difficult). Doing it smoother like in the second clip is a bit more difficult.

woah thats a cool trick!

[Liitu]

In that video its not infinite. You can do it infinite when you put the diabolo on right backside and start doing infinite suicide with your left hand.

[Diabolo88]

In that video its not infinite. You can do it infinite when you put the diabolo on right backside and start doing infinite suicide with your left hand.

Ah thought it was this trick that was being discussed. Sorry, will check the thread again .

[ETAMark]

I might be wrong, but I'm almost positive that tempei's is infinite. He right front wraps, but the effect is the same.
Edit: Also, yet again, not sure, but it makes sense to me that you would want the diabolo to be nearly perfectly vertical to perform this trick smoothly, because of the rapid rotation.
Correct me if I'm wrong on either bit because I am very curious about this trick in particular.

[Diabolo88]

No Tempeis version is the same as I do, it´s not inf. You can correct the diabolo somewhat while in the trick but yeah, best to be perfectly level before entering it.

[hOOk3r]

maybe i´ll do a tutorial,but probably the infinite after genocide

[Dracodragon]

I might be wrong, but I'm almost positive that tempei's is infinite. He right front wraps, but the effect is the same.
Edit: Also, yet again, not sure, but it makes sense to me that you would want the diabolo to be nearly perfectly vertical to perform this trick smoothly, because of the rapid rotation.
Correct me if I'm wrong on either bit because I am very curious about this trick in particular.

No, tempei's is not infinite. Any infinite suicide after a genocide with this trick wouldnt be infinite and would lose speed quickly. For this trick to work, the diabolo does need to be vertical, and you need to pull the string in a way so as to not touch the cups as much. You pull the string more with the twist of your hips rather than your arm flailing around. However, vertax INFINITE suicide feels way different from vertax continuous suicide after genocide... plus you can do a genocide from the real infinite suicide. I dont know, I can try and make a tutorial on both of them soon.

You can see me doing it at 6:23 in this video Juggling.tv - Diabolo.ca Collaboration Video 2007

[Dennis]

yes, yes, yes draco! 

please do a tutorial! 

[Dracodragon]

I am about 1/4 of the way done with making the tutorial. Hopefully it will be up by this weekend.

[hOOk3r]

here you have a tutorial,it isnt infinte,but i thinks it looks better!

http://diabolo.ca/forum/index.php?topic=7061.msg84714;topicseen#new

[chineseyoyoworld]

I can do about 3-5 revolutions for the vertax infinite suicide. But becasue the string keeps spinning faster and faster, I have to rotate my hand faster and faster, and cannot keep up. How do I fix this problem?